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Find out what Lexus is doing for their guest and for our community welcome to stuff you missed in history, glass, a production of Iheart radio. Hello and happy Friday. Our first episode this week was about the public universal friend. I said this in different words at the top of the episode, but this is not how I would talk about the trans and non binary people in my life or in more recent history. Generally though there was supposed also would not describe their gender haven't been died and reincarnated as a genderless divine spirit. I just want to make that clear like it, don't if you go and you use that episode as an excuse to disrespect the Trans person's name and pronouns, I'm kicking you out of the stuff you missed in history, class club

I didn't know there was a club, I don't you made it up, I'm making up a club, so I can kick you out of it You can communicate them, as was so central to so many parts of the story. Yeah. It's it's an interesting thing every week we talk about this all the time and you did talk about it at length at the beginning of the episode you know we can always apply. A modern language to historical people, because we don't know right if that's what they would have chosen for themselves or not yeah, and this is a uniquely difficult scenario, because it is kind of outside the scope of just about anything yeah that has evolved linguistically.

Yeah, even if you are up on the very latest evolutions of how language around gender and identity have evolved, yeah yeah- I I am basically taking at face value that that the friends sincerely held belief was having died and been reborn, and I am not, for example, like you could speculates that that that was something that the friend did like deal.

With gender dysphoria and says, like create a situation where they were able to live in a way that accommodated there, their own perceived gender. But like that's so speculative, we don't have any writing on like the the early years of Jemima Wilkinson and like any of that, also, though we did not get into it as much does hail in the episode. But a lot of the criticism and the derision that the friend faced is one hundred percent parallel, To like the invasive questions and discrimination that trans and non binding people face today, of like people being so focused on like what,

What underwear does the friend have on what is underneath his clothes? Is there some weird sex thing happening like rain? You could move the whole story a couple hundred years into the future when different language existed a to describe things about gender and that might read very differently but, like you can definitely see so many parallels in the friends story and in the stories of or the lives of transit, non binary people living today also, my spouse grew up in this part of western New York, and so when we down to dinner last night, I said Patrick: did you

about the part of of New York. History, where there was a dispute between New York and Massachusetts about whether the land was in New York or Massachusetts, and he said that would have been in fourth grade New York history, and I don't remember anything about it by comparison there, when I was kind of doing the thing that I know you also do sometimes where I kind of this gave him the download of everything we had been. I had been researching in the opposite, and- and I was talking about the friend getting ready to publish the settlement in western New York patterns like when was this, and I was like right. After the revolutionary war- and he went- oh no The immediately knew the history of like the oppression of indigenous people, hold scorched earth military campaign like he grew up right down. There

from a reservation in New York and like that, like that was part of his day to day life. Experience more and this whole weird and I found it incredibly convoluted and confusing border dispute between Europe and Massachusetts yeah, I So the other thing in this piece of history that I had kind of like me, pedestrian reaction was no was workin. Oh found our own communal society. It yeah just we ve done so many episodes about attempts at communal living that always fall apart and once that price Eddie, like exploded in value there. There's there's no way. People weren't gonna be illegal

we're rich, let's get out of here, yeah and like with the caviar of like that they indigenous people already living there and the like. But I I wish the only account I could find where indigenous people specifically referred to, who was probably the the friend because they talked about a white woman, giving an address at a treaty. Negotiation like even that was filter, through white observers, and like that particular account did not seem like they were already familiar with the friend willing,

They were, but anyway, I'd like a fine from like that aspect of the whole history of this it does seem like the community was pretty successful in terms of being able to get crops established and get a grip Melanie sawmill. Unlike all the stuff, they seem to have been really productive and productive and successful financially enough that they were able to keep like maintaining the poorest members of society for the whole rested there. Lives I did know when I went to confirm that the friends House is still on the national register of historic place than is currently the approval for the house's listing on the national register of historic places, notes its loco historical significance, but not like a state wide or national historical significance at I kind of wonder whether, like the scope of algae

we take U history and the importance of figures hey you could describe as queer in some way and history like, as that becomes increasingly important whether the perception of the friends importance will move beyond just local finger lakes, New York into a more or national importance. We shall see at speculation on my part. No. Our second episode this week was about the thirteen eighty one uprisings sometimes called what Tyler's or billion, sometimes called the peasants revolt lots of different names for that one, and that I did not pick that in response to anything happening in the world. As I said, it was something that was like written a couple of weeks back in the middle of May, but I can understand if people listen to it and see parallels in terms of the violence in their unrest that has been happening in the United States.

Over the last couple weeks and since this episode was coming out six entire days after I set that who knows what's gonna be happening. At that point tat we ve been very shrubby and frank about this lake. We don't know it's hard to to select topics. It's hard to deal with topics we voted. Selected that we now are producing the weird thing. I have a question for you about this Yes, did you, while working on this episode, think a lot about fight club, or is that just me? I didn't, but now that you mention it because project mayhem in fight club was all about a similar eraser of record's gas and density related to financial records in the hopes of a significant shift in how society and government and the

works yeah. Now that now that you mention it. Yeah- I wonder of Czech Politic was informed by these events, as he was writing have. Maybe you also. You also just asked me if I knew anything about a star wars. Through this morning. What has become a theme on a shelf? ready. We re you're, always the one doing it's like. I should be the why Mayer for doing a shows that connect to start were scared, as it would be more likely. One would think that it would be me, but no yeah what timber is the head of the Techno Union Army he's not a good guy So I can't imagine I mean I I we have talked before about how George Lucas really big history buff. So there are characters that are actually yes for sure named inspired by history, but I dont know. If this is the case or not, is it may just be a coincidental similarity

well. I am one of the things that had been in the outlined for the absurd that I went at cutting because there was proving very long was how I I mentioned. We mention that the interpretation of this rebellion, as is always the case. We we re, examine and we re argue history all the time, and so the interpretation of what Tyler has shifted its also shifted in literature, especially England, and so for a time, particularly among the highest class people in England, like what Tyler, with a villain leading up to the english civil wars, like one of the precautionary speeches about how things were going, was that the long a noble system of english government was going to fall to a white Tyler, and then in a totally different shift during that same era where, where Henry

every with feed as they like a pirate hero, because people were just really and pirates and outline like there were a bunch of London Theatre plays that were written that were about the almost Robin Hood, ask figure of what Tyler so yes, depending on who you're talking to and what their what their position in society is, and what century we're talking about. People have had like vastly different interpretations of what Tyler and Particular Emma, also the of rising as a whole, and now I can think of his Tyler Durden yeah. Maybe that's why Tyler Durden named that pathetic? I mean, I suppose somebody could reach out to chuck pollinate, can ask em it's a really interesting thing ray. We talk about how history gets reinterpreted Alla time and part of it is you even put it in the outline that there were chronicler

at the time that we're all rating about it, but they all bring their own perspective to it and there so outside of it that, even though that's a prime resource its primary source with inherent bias right. I think there was only one of those eight chronicles that that seemed to think that the rebelling people might have had a point through the rest of us were sort of like this poor rabble. They tore up, wondered Right yeah, it's interesting, and it makes me examine how I may we talked about a lot right now how events are framed by different news outlets etc, but even outlets that are even considered to be fairly neutral and unbiased. You still have to recognise that the peace, Ultimately, like writing the copy unconsciously,

their own bias in anything right? It's always like a big, a big thing that has been on my mind a lot in the last several months before all of this, even is how we present ourselves. Publicly, through, like our personal communications but also bigger communications and how that is going to be interpreted by future historians- and I I I mean I- I don't wish that I could time travel forward, but I do think it would be interesting to see How all of the things going on today are interpreted in the future

and it would be cool to do a side by side of something like that and something like what Tyler's rebellion right and compare like the primary source chroniclers of both errors yeah. But we can't do that. So I'm just talking out my behind we'll go on lists of our are bad uses for a time machine right anyway. I think that's an unless you have anything else you want to bring up. I think that's maybe get placed, call it. No, I'm good, ok, you'd like to write to us about this or any other punk aspirate history. Pod cast that I heard radio to calm were also Oliver. Social media had missed in history, and you can subscribe our show on apple pie. Cast the I hurt radio apt roseate. Your part casts

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