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listen to somebody on the heart, radio, apple podcast, wherever you get, your party casts welcome to stuff. You missed in history, glass, a production of Iheart Radio, hello, I'm happy casual Friday and welcome to our behind the scenes. Mammies I'm how we fry I'm Tracy, Wilson the first thing we talk about this week was the Anglo Zanzibar worn. Aha here is a true confession: I did not realise prior to working on this, how much overlap there was between arabic ends, Zanzibar hurry and, in fact, to african culture further south than I would have thought. Failure like I, I realise that I mean there are still think pieces being written today about how's Zanzibar culture continue to be infused meaner with the

culture all kind of migration that happened with the Armani occupation, and so it's just one of those things that in my head, I think I had kind of partitioned off Egg, the arabian peninsula and then Africa as two separate things, and I really don't think about how much they obviously would have crossed over an area and co mingled. And in fact you know in many cases, because of of these occupations families formed that were were inclusive people from both of those cultures and then in a went on to shift the make up of the the peoples that lived there. Yet I was completely ignorant all that so yeah ass, the Marquis no moment in my life. What led you'd see picking this the killer app said. I really really lake looking a little bit more deeply at things that are often reported in those. I talk about it in the episode like this appears on the list of like nutty moments in our aim. It's like that was

those wives, and I bet they didn't think it was nutty or hysterical right, either mean there was a lot going on there that we tend when we do things like that, like make lists like that to gloss over, and it gets easy to forget how important these moments are to actual humans Ino can in the contemporary setting yeah yeah. I look at those lists, sometimes when I'm having with I'm struggling to pick an idea, sometimes I'll, go, find some like kooky incidents in history list and see if there's something there, that resonates catholic

Sometimes, there is lists to have interesting topics. I might not have stumbled across myself, but at the same time they are very glossed over her. Yet I mean that's. The thing ray is that that there are often very interesting events they get included on those lists, but they're not really treated with a lot of deaths, which is kind of just the nature of the beast. I'm not turn a dog any site that does those or eat it's just. You can't really convey the new ones, unlike in the case of of this, you see that it was. A couple hundred years of like lead up and this battle over slave trade am cultures trying to manipulate one another in different ways that led to that moment that seem sort of silly. If you only look at it outside of contexts, gas Wendy lies lake. There were nino familial issues among the money rulers and the Sultans lineage, which was now Necessarily in here

did the way we would think of in in the case of like a European Royal House, and so that's why there were these contests for power at times in that side, as well. As you know, the British trying to manipulate who was going into power yeah, it's a much of a much more detailed ends. I don't say nuanced, but there are a lot of moving parts there. They don't really get accommodated in the list tackle yeah one. There's also that the aspect that you brought it that I had not really thought about the british efforts to end the slave trade being rooted in an attempt to destabilize everything like on its surface. That seems like a noble thing to be like we're gonna, where we want to end you're in when the slave trade, but having as an underlying motivator of that being like because your culture will fall apart, financially yeah, we can get a better foothold here if

Force you to do this yeah, it would have been way more noble. If they were like hey, we really need to abolish the slave trade. We understand your economy is largely based around it. Here's how we could shift The bell ever introduce any of that. It's just! No! No and now so you have to pay taxes as a protectorate. It starts to pretty quickly would like. Oh, this may have been noble for some of the people involved. There were put out this abolition, but ultimately it was also a power grab that it's like the opposite of what we talked about with Paul Coffee, attempting to establish like other industries in places that had just been destroyed by the slave trade, to have to try to transfer people to a different economic source yeah. There was none of that going on the other thing, that sort of harbour

King, when I look at this because you and I both when we're looking at at a conflict like that arena at some sort of power struggle, where multiple countries or states arm kind of all jobs being to have power over one particular place. We try to look at all of the peoples involved perspectives, but the trick with this one is that there are certainly a lot of of history on this written from the british perspective, and we have those treaties that that Britain and Germany and France participated in as well as Oman, and we see the journals of, for example, like basil cave, are often reference to describe what went on and then

There are arabic scholars who will talk about the history from that perspective, but what really really really gets lost is the perspective of the peoples that were descend in of the ban to people. That went to Zanzibar Saturday. I ardently we dug actually have a whole lot of information

They thought of essentially being set aside is like a figure Hetty unimportant. You know fairly powerless. Oh yes, yes, you still have your kings and queens, but they can actually do anything. They were still respected culturally, but they didn't really have much power, and so we lose that whole part of this piece of history, because they kind of just got bulldozed Gatt. Sorry to be a bummer allow up the other episode. We did this week less of a bummer. I think, because it was the all american girls professional baseball team, which means we can talk about a league of their own yeah. So we referenced Brittany Della Create is article on the hidden, queer history of illegal their own.

Which is very worthwhile reading Joe lack of research, a lot of it with player a bitch areas, because a lot of the players are no longer living a lot of the players who are still living a lot of them didn't want to talk to her on record because, like the lot of folks that are like grew up in the forties and fifty's are not really out today or not as visibly out as a lot of people are today slight. There were let em people who want to talk to her on record people did speak fondly about the movie, including women who are out as Lesbians day who like to think of a league of their own very finally, his film and one of the points that was made was that the league existed. Time that it existed in a league of their own, exhausted, like that was made a ninety ninety two as a future as a feature film like so that existed in the time that it was, and so it makes sense that there is not

a lesbian presence in the movie and as I was reading the article I was like wasn't there because I always interpreted little sister kit as like the lesbian kid sister. And so I went and we watched a league of her own. While I was like working my way, through this, then I realized I just mentally edited out the entire. Before and after framework of the story which he elegant involves are being married to a man having a lot of children and grandchildren, and I think the problem was that I saw even though it came out before I saw a league of there and after having seen tank girl. So I think my perception by whom Russia will very bad honey. This youth darling, I get it Oh, I love her in that movie. Yeah, legally room is very

popular at our house. I haven't Washington awhile, but Brian does quoted a lot. The one thing I also love that's an offshoot of it is seeing people at pop culture conventions like dragon. Conor, Comic, HANS Lynn, Rockford, peaches, uniforms, which is nice, the gas stuff you could ever see on the planet. It's a door, there's also a reboot of that coming to of the streaming services. I dont remember, which I also wanted to take a minute talk about like we, we mention in the show that today it is still stereotypes about women in sports, being lesbians, and of course, that is the stereotype. But also there are less like and in my lifetime we have gone from Billy, Jean King being out against her will and nine in eighty one and it being an enormous scandal and her losing contracts and like she was

later into her career at that point, but still it was like damaging to her career hugely in my lifetime we have gone from vat, sue Megan repay now doing cameo on the EL word generation Q. Yet that is such a colossal evolution of women in sports women athletes the perceptions of women in athletes and specifically the perception of like lesbians as athletes, which I find really moving and profound is I mean I I it's one of those things where it's like. We still have so far too in so many ways, but when you point that out its it is really gets. We are making progress. I know it's not as much progress as we be, but it's good. I feel compelled to also mention that I cried in a week

this point imagining episode. I've had to stop. This is embarrassing, but I don't think it would surprise really anybody that knows me, which is that a very hard time talking about a league of their own, because I had dimension petty Mars oh, who I love at new anti weep tipping about her not being with us. Now and then I think about character, because they were best friends and then I'm Malta well having just we watched that movie literally a week ago. I, my personal opinion, is, I feel, like it really holds up. I very much enjoyed watching it at that point. It was

show time, but when I tried to find it again on the show time app bit, my you know, Roca was asking me if I wanted to rent it and I was like, but but it was just on Showtime so that it may not be on show time right now. Anyway, that's is mostly behind the scenes about a league of their own. Anyway, I had a good time researching that episode. I'm glad that, after just a lot of trying to figure out what I was gonna talk about on this, next. I eventually arrived at that one because it was a lot of fun to research yeah. It kind of gave us a weird one to punch of the week of the perfect, keep a low vat yeah. There's a lot of discussion of conflict over slavery. Here is actually some pretty fun baseball talk with some sexism involved, centralism and segregation and homophobia, but still fun sport storing so anyway, but see again

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