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day with eighty welcome to stuff you missed in history class of production of I hurried use house of works. How well and welcome to a little behind the themes, many food of stuff you missed in history class, I'm Tracy Welfare and then I'm Holly fry. This is a little knew, something that we're trying. Aha, we're gonna be adding it in your feed on Fridays. One of the things that we get requests from listeners for a lot of time is a little bit more kind of casual insight into our process or how we feel about shows that we have worked on, and so every week we're gonna came to do a little round up a little five to ten. When I talk about the shows that debuted that weak guess. So this, We have two shows. Unusually, they were both researched and written by me. Often one episode this is my research and one is Holly's research, but just because of the way the calendar fell, they were both mine this week and the

First, when weighs about the which find her general who wishes something that I had on. Like my long term. It didn't turn out to be a hallowing episode because it came out in November, but it's kind of Hallo Weeny in its theme in and it wasn't all my long term list of things talk about in the more act homer time period. It was something the earlier in the month. I just sort of stumbled across, possibly while googling the novel, the discovery of which is by Deborah Harkness. Forfeits is a totally unrelated thing. One, things that struck me. While I was working on Amazon so I have joked before. If thrones were real, and if I have lived in game of thrones, I would have been beheaded in season. One and when I was working on this episode. I was thinking about how, if Ireland,

in early, modern Europe. I one hundred percent would be accused of witchcraft. Because not only am I kind of a cranky into my middle years, person You can sometimes be short with people. He rubbed me the wrong way though I had adopted not one but two black cats in the weeks immediately before us epithets heard had cats were viewed very suspiciously and black cats, especially very very suspiciously, and then on top of that we have been clicker training them and they can mostly sit on command about eighty percent of the time, and I think that would have been incurred doubly frowned upon right, I neighbor had set up for the record. That's very easy to clicker train. This is a different deal than would dogs, yet I have trained ours to sit on command and go in their crates on command so that I don't have to fight them into crates. Especially good right now are recognising that one, this is intending to practice sitting like

if they realise that there are treats and quicker in hand immediate sitting happen. You have now I've been trying to kind of sneak up with the sitting, one of our previous cats. We had taught him several tricks, we had taught him sit, lie down and roll over and he would get so excited when the traits in the clear came out, but he would just start cycling through those tricks over like one of these is gonna, be right and I'd really like to get it does not create. One of the things I wanted to mention about which find her we mentioned in the episode is that it is this weird juxtaposition of some the terrible stuff like women, were treated very badly, and the handling of this issue was done in a way that kind of seemed like they wanted to draw up their own business, which is terrible, but the flip as it there's a lot of really whimsical and nuts iii stuff that is worthy of lake, the most creative fantasy novel. You could imagine.

Yeah gets into that weird space where your kind of enjoying it, but you also feel guilty for enjoying it. Equally, I had that exact response, and I also, as I was working on the script initially had a lot more patients from the documentation of the trials. At the time has the they were just so weird and delightful, sometimes in a weird way I mean what they were talking about with horrifying, but I remember transcribing into the outline and then later deleting it this hall testament.

Somebody had given about how somebody had nipples in her secret places, but they were not piles, because I know what piles are having experienced them. Myself just went out- and I was like this is so weird and funny in a bizarre way, and not funny at all at the same time, because, like they're, using this testimony to convict a woman of witchcraft well and, moreover, for me, the part that made me kind of feel like uneasy about it is. It really became this strange, obsessive cataloguing of women's bodies, failure which is a whole other thing that you know robs women of their agency and is very creepy and strange and also makes

the men involved seem leg very, a very twisted version of lascivious, in some cases its tricky, but I did come away with the desire to get a tattoo of vinegar Tom who has entered the hall familiars. We discuss. Yes, you know thyself. Our work for the episode that had the picture of vinegar Tom in it you're a media response was now. I have to get a better Tom tat you SK I figure out where it's gonna go get here. He became tattoos of every show. We do you take the ideas of things that I want to turn the tattoos you know what I will never want to get a tattoo of. What's that, A baby know that there are other show this week. Yes, our other, so this week was on on Doktor goonies, baby sideshows, which is something folks had been asking us to do for the entire time that we have been on this podcast it comes at waves right, like they'll, be a right up on it on the internet somewhere and get a lot of requests. A book came out about it. The called the strange case of doktor cootie, which I

I was able to like sort of shack in a couple of pages of that, but I wasn't able to get the book from the library and time to actually use it as part of the research, but I had plenty of other resources to draw from the people Ask us to do it for so long and that really it was just one of those things forums like I've. I've had a lot going on as much in the immediate recent past. But several the more distressing episodes that we have done this year have been my research and we were getting ready, sir, go on tour and I was like I need something that I can that I can get together before we get on tour, and this thing people have been asking for, for so long seems like good material for it The thing that struck me while working on this was when we talk about somebody on this show who had no medical background and started. Huckster kind of way. Trying to sell something with there now medical background.

Normally at best what that person was accomplishing, was nothing right. Re weed about somebody who was marketing some kind of cure all or somebody who is positioning themselves as some kind of healer, and they actually had no background to do any of that normally best. Scenario is nothing and then worst case scenario is a bunch of people die so, having this episode. We're Doktor Clooney doesn't seem to have had a medical degree. Maybe He did. Maybe that's just the records were loss. It doesn't seem that he was a doktor, though the math doesn't add up on his medical treatment. I want to believe that he was really a doctor, but I dont think that he was, but he he successfully saved a lot of babies like that. The survival rate in his incubator sideshows was way above what would happen These babies were just sent home without any further care and that not a story, tell very

often on the so it normally. If we're talking about somebody, you had no background experience doing something like that. The story goes a wide differently. Yeah I, the whole thing is, is fascinating in the not fascinating way to me, because I've been very frank about, I have a phobia about baby to some people. That makes me a monster. I've decided now. Babies person said the idea of paying to look it premature babies is really odd to me like. Why would you do that? Why wouldn't you buy some socks instead with that? But at the same time like you have to acknowledge that that was a thing, but I will also say that there is a title of a book, but I had it. About those of a zone where the word nurse leg is involved and for some reason, budgets scheme to be out. So I felt bad bad about the nursling part. I mean it: the worst thing that befalls mean a day. I really have nothing to complain about, but it was just that the six things have is fully understand why this gives me like that,

babies Here. I am so also back after we talked about Doktor Virginia APP car, some point after that, when we had a t shirt store, we had a t, shirt designed, says. Look at the baby's, because that became sort of the theme of that show about how Virginia after had had been like. If you I will just look at these babies, you will prevent a lot of problems that are happening with their medical care and for some reason I wish this delightful to me, and so we have this look at the baby's shirt and our store and that get. The baby's shirt could also work for this pursued, it could have. I ever told you I'm scared to wear mine now, because I'm scared, someone will show me. Babies are really airs, my baby, it only like now, you ve, misunderstood or of lay, I don't wanna be of answer, but I do want to look at your baby. You could do what I do when I get a shirt and then I realized there. Something may be questionable about the shirt which is where it to sleep. Oh no, I know

I'm scared I'll invite some sort of baby energy in its wake up at babies. In my room, I shall be a ghost baby in your house may be Lou, maybe I'll find somebody who wants it and make sure they get it. Oh, let's get. Ah we ve kind of covered. Some ground on both of our episodes next week we have some more exciting fun things coming up and we will talk about those next Friday, so yep hopefully have enjoyed this kind of look behind the scenes of our insights and thoughts into what we work on our day to day basis and that, let us know if you want us to cover any particular territory like our research process or

question about one of the issues we can probably involves some q and a here if there's time ever wish is pretty open, ended in nebulous. So we have a little bit of playtime here on Friday and if you're wondering hey, is this going to change something about the existing episodes that I know and love? That answer is now not even a little heavily add on and nothing nothing that impacts the recording of the regular show. So we hope you enjoy did. If you would like to write to us, you can do so at history park as to how some work start calm. We are also on every social media has missed in history, and our website is missing. History, dot com. You can subscribe to the show on the apple podcast thy heart, radio up or wherever it is you get your progress, stuffy mist and history, glasses of production of Iheart radios. How stuff works for my part have for my how radio visit thy heart, radio, Appleton guests or wherever you listen to your favorite, shows what is

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