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time around or switching sides an genders to talk about a confederates. I who belong to what you could consider. Maybe a spy sub group that existed around time and that's female spies, and this may come as a surprise to those who sure, civil war era, women in the? U S is wearing these gone with the wind style, big dresses and grasping their smelling salts. Just waiting tearfully loved ones to come home that during the is leading up to the war. Gender roles were actually starting to evolve. A little that, thanks to industrialization in the north and the rising feminist and abolitionist movements, in the war in some cases, just really instigated that change even more quickly in many women to stray from their normal lives in order to work and hospitals in than the army, sometimes on or even spies, as we can talk about today, yet our pockets subject today, Bell boy was no exception to this sort of changing role for women and eventually turning to spying. She, why

to help out the confederacy for several reasons, We will see an spying was just way that fell natural for her. She was known for using her feminine wild to get information and Boyd consequently picked up them in concluding Le Bower Bell and Cleopatra of this accession, and she became famous for her work as a spy, both during and after the war, but we ve got it also look at how her efforts helped the confederate cause, because you can find that it all comes down to the quality of the information you got. But before we talk about that, let's take a look at how she got her start in espionage on the phone will she was born. May ninth, eighteen, forty four and Martinsburg Virginia, which is now part of West Virginia and from there Slake with Pinkerton story some of the details that we found our up for debate and that's because a lot of what's been passed down over the years about Bell story came from her and she supposed

We had a little tendency to exaggerate, sometimes, which will talk a little bit more about later. I think a spy just has to have a murky background. It it's not right if, if he or she does, good boy, we do know thou that Bell came from a good southern family with scottish routes and her parents were Merry Glenn, Boyd and Benjamin Red boy. It and she was the oldest of eight kids and apparently grew up quite a tomboy she'd climb trees should ride horses. She was headstrong, she was determined and apparently her parents did really do that much to check her behaviour, she's kind of indulged know at first example, there's the story and Peggy Caravans, Facebook, petticoat spies, six women, spies of the civil war about how she once crashed appearance at Dinner party when she was only eleven years old. Apparently they told her that she was now old enough to go to this dinner party so not happy about that and at the end of the in a party people are just turn you get up and she, Russia's

to the room on her horse in the dining room. Quite an inch her parents are really angry, of course, that they dont punish her because the rest of the guests are so amused by this guide. It would make a good and a good story to go home and tell your family, but she was even though she was the sort of Tom why she was still raise to be refined, southern bow and at age twelve. Her pain, then her off to Mount Washington Female College in Baltimore to complete her formal creation and four years after that in her debut in Washington society in eighteen sixty. But that's kind of interesting gear to make your day view, because, just one year later the civil war started and seventeen Bell had to go back home to Martin, sparing to help raise money for the confederacy and eventually serve as a nurse to yeah. Her father left of here for service and the southern army as well, so he wasn't at home on July. Third, eighteen sixty one when federal troops occupied Martens Burg.

Very next day July. Fourth, Yankee troops started loony houses and generally just vandalized, the town destroying things and the soldiers had her the FAO in particular had decorated her room with rebel flags, so a squad of them went over to the boy house and there Tension obviously was to take down as flags and raise a union flag instead over the house. So get over there. They start ransacking plays looking for the flags, but in the meantime the family servant is getting rid of all the flag taken him down and burns them just before they get to bed room on the second floor, but soldier is angry anyway about the situation of embarrass yet and he's a citing any exactly he decides. He wants to her waist to flag anyway. So bells mom at this point says men. Every member of this house, we'll die before that flag. As raised over us, so pretty strong words here, currently fighting word so at that point the soldier apparently cursed out her and use and pray.

Filthy language and bell was just our She wrote later quote. I could stay, it. No longer my indignation was aroused beyond control. My blood literally boiling in my veins Phil Sheep, a gun and shot the guy and the soldier died soon after that achieved, got arrested, as you might imagine soon after this and investigation followed, but are you commander actually ruled that it was a justifiable homicide and that she had quote done perfectly right and placed a detail, on their house. It's kind of unclear to me out with different sources, say different thing. Some say that he placed the detail around our house to protect them. Others say that it was to prevent trouble, but many say that here. While she was becoming acquainted with the soldiers in the detail placed around her house that thou actually got her start as the spy just basically flirting,

charging a mob, that's where she was able to overhear union plans and get them to divulge important pieces of information that she then quote, regularly and carefully committed to paper and at any opportunity sent by secret dispatch and trust messenger to confederate officers fell by eighteen, we were involves position, got a little more official. She joined the confederate intelligent than generals PDP. Regard and Thomas J, Jaclyn, Stonewall Jackson used her as a courier and she was really good at that, because she knew the Shenandoah Valley really well, and she had excellent horsemanship skill, though in those early days, though, she wasn't quite careful that that part of the despise them tools, hadn't really developed, yet she didn't use code. She didn't try to disguise her handwriting and so in late. Eighty six and the union started to notice her they started to

catch on when they found a message in her handwriting signed Bell, pretty obvious. Yesterday picture. And they read her the articles of war at union headquarters and told her that the penalty for spying was death, she probably knew, but then they rely her after that and according to caravansaries. They didn't think that a seven you're old girl could do any harm so, as will see later, they problem The thought better that, after that incident, those mom was little worried. She said stay with relatives in Front Royal Virginia, which was forty miles to the South Martin spurred. So she basically thought Bell would be safe. You might think that her mother would have gone a little worried after Bell killed a man it's here, very your very sharp their virgo. She thought she be better off in front moral that wasn't a the case, though. After a relatively quiet winter, there Bell was up to her old tricks, again gleaning info from soldier the front royal, who were smitten with her. I mean she was at this time.

To be a great beauty, and so they would write poems for her in her flowers. According to America, history. She said of one captain quote. I am indebted some very remarkable effusions, some withered flowers and, last but not least, for great a very important information which was carefully transmitted to my countrymen, fishes flirtatious by that it was supposed to one of those gullible guys who she flirted with who kept her off on a Union Council of WAR that was gonna, be held in the drawing room of her aunts old house in the spring of eighteen, sixty two in velvet the former tomboy that she was knew that there was a hole in the floor of the bedroom. Clause at right above the drawing room where these men would be meeting, and so she snuck in there to eat, drop, and while she was in there, she learned that General James she'll plan to take most of his troops out of there Royal to aid an assault on Richmond and she eventually pass this

nation onto her side. In a coded report. She started getting martyr about that type of thing by now. Yes, so by now, she's passed on some info and maybe the number of troops in some of their plans, and this is significant because at the time Jackson was on what became known as his Shenandoah Valley campaign, basically fighting for drove the shadow valley and hoping to distract union troops from attacking the confederate capital of Richmond. But it's tough to say Those work really influence Jackson's decisions. Here, however, the move she made, is generally considered her biggest success in intelligence work specifically on May twenty three Eighteen sixty two as Jackson's forces were approaching Bell to speak to union off sir, and she learned that shields and his men were planning to burn the front royal bridges as they withdrew from town to LO, the confederates pursuit of their army yeah belle realise Jackson. Would have to speed up his attack if he was gonna, make it across those bridges and time and

try to get somebody to ride out to Jackson Campaign and tell him pass on this vital information, but no willing to risk riding out between the two armies. Though, Bell decided just do it herself. She grabbed her White Van Bonnet and ran across the gap with bullets. Whizzing passed her while she was going, and by the time she finally reached the confederate sighed, she was gasping for air but managed it. Out her message to two stone Wall and Jackson in his troops attacked quickly after after the this news and managed to save the front royal bridges. So they say their means of access and also captured some enemy. Wept supplies, while they were at it, and this. Consequently, First, the union troops to retreat and position the confederates to move on Winchester behind the Union Army, though it was a pretty valuable piece of, nation that produced a big result- Yang Jackson, Ro Bela, note later that said, quote: Miss Vale Boyd. I thank you from US

and for the army for the immense service you rendered your country today, Finally, I am your friend T, J Jackson, so she got a personal. Thank you note from Stone Wall here, that's a big deal that is so with that big success behind her and approval from this great officer, Confederate army will continue to the courier slashed by after that, but in July eighteen, sixty two at the age of eighteen was still really young. Then she was arrested for espionage on the orders of the Secretary of WAR and when Stanton and she didn't arrest and stuff times by this record yeah. She got arrested a lot of times, but she was usually able to kind of talk herself out of it. But this time here, going to old capital prison in Washington. She actually didn't have to bad time. There, though, she was kind of treated as a vip admirer, sent her special food and think like that, and she was released in a month as part of an exchange of prisoners. So I mean, I think, her

deteriorated a little, but it wasn't like paradise or anything, but she wasn't as bad as it could have that it wasn't. She was treated differently from other prisoners because of her celebrity status yeah, but by July eighteen sixty three. She was again sent back to all capital president this time for six months, and it was worth the same. She did get thick with typhoid fever. When she was released a rich man. She got a warning not to be caught within federal lines again feel like the union, finally taking this girl, pretty furiously to be caught within federal lines again feel like the union is finally taking this girl pretty furiously, yeah, but it also means because they are taking her seriously she's, not as effective as a spy in northern territory, any in that she was gonna, go on a trip to improve her health. She set sail on about. Kate running ship called the greyhound in May eighteen, sixty four, but a year gunboat stopped and boarded them before they had even cross the international border. Fortunately,

Bell there. The commanding officer is a young union. Man named Fibula Harding and his commission is to take the shit back to a U S port, but before they reach the Bell had worked for magic again and Harding had fallen in love with her and switched his allegiance and even allow the Greyhounds Confederate captain to escape, and consequently he superiors we're not pleased by this change of he was court martialed and rather than go to prison belle Afghan, was granted permission to go to Canada, with the understanding that, if she ever was caught on, U S, soil again, she'd be shot but

he's not in Canada for very long. No, after just a few months, she sales to England and her service to the south is pretty much Venice. She meets with a confederate agent when she gets there and says that she destroyed. The message has got to be carrying when her ship cut boarded, and so it's done at that point yeah. I guess she took that last threat pretty seriously, but the rest of your life was be fascinating to it could really be a separate podcast Harding, followed her to London after the Navy dismissed him and the two of them got married. It Then a relationship that was gonna last very long now know soon after the wedding Harding returns to the: U S, planning to run the union blockade and actually work for the confederacy, but he's caught, and prisons and falls very ill, so he's alive, turned to England, but dies after a few months. Leaving bell widow at a young age of twenty. Yes, so she's gone a daughter now to support grave and though she writes a two volume book

Belle Boyd in camp in prison to sort of support herself in her her young family in it suggested that allow of this volume was embellish. She was trying to sell copies after all then, after that, she embarked on a theatrical courier and told her experience, told about her experience as a spy on Page again, laying on pretty thick creating this character of Bell Boy with something a little bigger than she had even been in life. Yeah I mean sources suggest that a lot of the details that she put out, thereby bravery and the dangerous element, tour missions, alot of that was exaggerated, and I mean a lot of people think that when she was supposed to be carrying the message to England, there really was no message. She just choose. Just going. Angli was just going to England, so you know we may never know some of those details, but in eighteen, sixty six after she embarked on this at the end,

her career, she and her daughter were allowed to return to the. U S where she continued her stage career under the name, Nina Benjamin and she remarry twice once and eighty six nine to a wealthy business men and former union officer, a second husband who is a former union officer which I think is entering the union guys seem too, and she had three kids with him. Horse. Fifteen years later, though, didn't really have a very happy marriage, but just six weeks after that, she married again to port four year old actor names Nathaniel Rue High Junior and she was forty the times. There is a huge age difference there and she, not working, and since he didn't have a lot of money. So she started giving dramatic speeches about her experiences during the war and it was well. She was on one of those speaking towards that she died of a heart attack on June, have nineteen hundred and with confidence she was buried. There are still there

and they are a long way from home, yet definitely inveterate spies and varied and little confidence tat in those constant Dell's. I think, and her grave was actually unmarked for awhile It was on March because I think they thought that her people in Virginia we're gonna send for her ass. She was so well known there and they never really dead, so other people paid for her to have a headstone and that this is a factor are with confidence, they're gonna, going to like we learned recently in the king of Beaver Island. After that people from Wisconsin are prey. In two hearing, their state talked about on the Paca yeah. So if anyone has been tat Bell, Boyd's graver knows any more about this area are any of the activities that gone here on the moral two acres. I hear they kind of honour her around memorial Day a rear. Let us now finish the picture yeah. Before we totally sign off on a spell Boyd episode, I think it's interesting to point out that in her later years, when she was giving these talks, these speeches she'd starts

says the Union of the north and the south more and more, she would enter speeches with the quote: one God, one flag, one people forever, so any she actually ended up winning the approval of both sides. Yeah tissues, labelling or a bell when she's a young person, but she ends up being carve a patriotic here again in her in her older year, scan she even occasionally popular with union veterans. Lower tar about these civil war in the confederacy in particular, we might as well bred and listen airmail emails from sack and he wrote in after our little shipwreck many various we did a while back. You can good afternoon. Ladies, I just listen to part two of your shipwreck, many theories and heard you talk about the hunting, but that is thing, because just recently, I interviewed one of the archaeologists who's been working on the humbly since it was pulled out,

Water is here in Charleston. He agreed to be interviewed from Ireland. Has called our best. Archaeologists agree to be on the show and share his top five turning point in history. The interview about his work and humbly and archaeology in general was so interesting. We dedicated to upsets to him from interesting TED bet, the officer have been shot in the leg a few months prior at Antietam. I think, and his leg would have been more damaged in amputated, but a coin in his pocket saved him. That coin with in the Hamley dented and with the day he was wounded accident Tony Blair and his knifepoint with before the homeless.

Gathered. There was much discussion about what it actually look like and even how many people were inside one, they thought they discovered it looked very much like the name is panting made at that. Only the boy laughed mission for years. No one knew that painting with accurate or not but found that it was very detailed and had even help them figure out what a few of the exterior part suitable like new, though thanks for this humbly insider TED, Betsy Mam, an archaeologist involved in its excavation I've got to know There are so many call story surrounding the handling and the people who died inside it and discoveries that have mainly been made sense so deftly. Thank you for Sunday morning, So if you have any more civil war spy, you wanna hear about. We ve had a lot of fun talking about Pinkerton and bellboy it, and I'm sure there are so many more out there or just other civil war stories. You are here, as you know, were certain.

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