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I'd show Bides, as we always warned might be the case. Yes, minor technical difficulties with that recording We had some technical difficulties, we were there as part of an event called great conversations at Gettysburg. This was a whole full day of programming that was sponsored by the Gettysburg Foundation. We had a great time, but according an outdoor event, is always kind of a challenge. This time we had our arraign delay. Followed by very breezy weather and just surprising number of motorcycle interruption. Yeah and, as we were outdoors, all of those things conspired to make kind of a slushy sound cut off and who we are. Have a studio version of this show, rather than the live recording. Also, we didn't call it this because folks just walking through

he's Burg wouldn't necessarily know what six impossible episodes means, but this is basically a six impossible episodes edition of the show its is focused on Gettysburg's Ladys. Yes, yes for this life podcast. We wanted to focus on women and the battle of Gettysburg, and there are just so many to choose from some of the people we are going to talk about where local, to get his burg some work. Next to the armies in some way and some arrived after. The battle was actually over. We just picked a few favorites. If we don't have your favorite, it's not because that person was not any good just that you know we had a select few to choose for this time. Also. This is not remotely all the women who were there and we are going to be focused mostly on the women's connections to getting

against the battle itself. This is not going to be a full biography of all the women that we are going to talk about, but we will jump in and first we will talk about Murray tepid known as fearless french Mary, who became quite irrecognizable character during the summer warm she was born Marie blows, probably and blessed France and she actually emigrated to the United States, and once she got here, she married Bernard Tapie. Who was a tailor in Philadelphia in June of eighteen sixty one Bernard, joined the twenty seventh Pennsylvania Infantry and he really wanted worried to stay behind at mine. There, Taylor Shop. She wanted to go with him, though, so she became a the, which is a french term for uniform women who travelled with the armies to kind of bolster the troops morale a lot of times. They acted as merchants and sold things like.

Food and tobacco Americans learned about the Vondra air during the Crimean WAR and during the civil war. There were women in this role on both sides of the fighting Marie bought things like whisky, food, tobacco and various necessities to then sell to the soldiers she carried her whiskey in a small keg, and she filled that keg with water when she couldn't get whiskey hold water instead and she fought when she had too, and she also health care for the wounded. She was paid

your salary, plus an extra twenty five cents a day if she was doing hospital work at some point, Marie left, the twenty seventh Pennsylvania, inventory and Bernard Tapie. The story that was reported by other people was that several soldiers, one of them being her husband, broke into her tent and stole sixteen hundred dollars from her. It is always tricky to try to convert currency from that long ago to today's dollars, but that was a huge amount of money would be a huge amount of money. Today of someone stole that for me. So at that time that was a fortune. Well it even if you like, her husband had just broken in and stolen.

Twenty, like that. Still not cool theft is theft, but it really was quite a large sum, but she did not stay gone for the picture for long irish immigrant, Charles Hd Collis had previously served in the eighteenth, Pennsylvania, Infantry Regiment and after his enlistment was over, he decided to start his own volunteer unit and he wanted to style this unit. After the french Light Infantry troops, known as the suave patterns, the uniforms after their colorful pants jackets and turbans at first he had a small group known as this was deaf leak or calices was they eventually became the one hundred Fourteenth Pennsylvania. Volunteer. Infantry ass had been the case with a Vivandiere Americans. First experience to the suave was during the Crimea and war, and then there was wives style units on both sides of the civil war. Just to be clear, although the earliest french suave troops or from northern

Africa. Eventually, these units associated with the french Army were made up of Europeans and those while units in the civil war, even though they might have some nod to the idea of Africa. They were made up of white tree Carlos wanted his unit to have a his either. He recruited he or she simply about what he was doing and volunteered to join. She once again sold provisions cooked and cared for. The wounded She also delivered water in supplies to the front lines in doing that. She actually a bullet in the ankle at Fredericksburg? She was recovered enough to carry water to the troops that chancellor spill and there she was under so much heavy fire that people described her skirts as being riddled with bullet holes. She was awarded the Kearny Cross for valor on May sixteenth of eighteen, sixty three but see refused to wear

She said she did not want a present by the Battle of Gettysburg. Marie was a recognisable figure for much of the union army in the area of she had also started carrying a red, white and blue keg. After her first keg was shattered by a bullet, she was there during the battle and she came through all of that unharmed. Although it does not appear that she laughed when the soldiers left, there is actually a picture of her standing on Cemetery Healing Gettysburg, taken some time, afterward and its possible that she stayed behind to health care for the wounded, and then she joined back up with her unit later after the war she married Corporal Richard Leonard and she was photographed with her keg, adder union and eighty ninety three eventual. Is she enriched divorced, and she died of an apparent suicide in one thousand nine hundred and one before we move on. We should really note that, although Marie was in combat at various times and she was paid your salary. She was not actually there as a soldier, but there were females. Yours at Gettysburg. There were women.

Mary sees gall who disguised herself ass a man so that she could fight alongside her husband and other people who stories and identities are less clear people, found to have female anatomy after being injured or killed in combat. There are at least five documented, including sees gone too far for the union's eyed and three for the confederacy. It's possible that there were many more who went unnoticed and undocumented next will have somebody. Will be familiar to people who have seen the women's Memorial met Gettysburg and that's Elizabeth Thorn. She was in Germany as Elizabeth Catherine Master and then after emigrating to the United States. She married John Peter or who went by Peter. They had three sons before the civil war started and then Peter owing to the army in August of eighteen, sixty two Peter was there or take her of evergreen cemetery in the family lived the cemeteries, art shaped gatehouse, which still stands today.

Peter joined the army. Elizabeth took over for him as caretaker, while also taking care of their children and when the battle of getting bird began. She was also about six months pregnant six months pregnant and taking care of three little boys and acting as the caretaker of the cemetery When the confederate Army started to arriving gettysburg at the end of June, they requisitioned food from the Thorn household, And then, when the federal army arrived a few days later, Elizabeth helped General Oliver Otis Howard get the layer, land sort of sodium which roads went where and what some of the local back ways where that the confederacy might not know about. She also provided dinner for some of the officers, although by that point, she really did not have much left as thanks though some of voters of men helped her move some of the families valuables down into the cellar for safe keeping, and they also told her that, if she were ordered to leave the area should do so. A media,

and that cemetery was part of Cemetery Hill, which became an active battlefield until I second, the family was ordered to evacuate. Although Elizabeth came back during the night to check on things and she found that the families hogs had been killed and that the Gate House was full of wounded soldiers, she left again to try to find food and shelter, and this time she stayed away until July. Seventh, once the family got back, they found that their whom had just been ransacked, including what they had moved into the cellar amputations, had been performed on their beds, so their feather beds and bedding were almost beyond repair. It took her in three women days of work to fix them- and that was after they first repaired, the pump and from what they had was really just beyond repair. There were also dead bodies awaiting burial outside, along with the bodies of horses that had been killed in the battle, but Elizabeth Sore, is most well known for what happened. After all of that, she had run it,

the president of the cemetery on her way home and he told her that there was more work waiting for her than she could possibly do in her own account. In the days after the battle she wrote quote, I got a note from the president of the cemetery and he said: Missis Thornton it is made out that we will bury the soldiers in our cemetery for a while, so you go for that piece of ground and commence sticking off lots in Greece as fast as you can Some will. You may know how I felt my husband in the army, my father and aged man, yet for all the How are we to started in? I stuck off the graves and well. Father finished one. I had another one started: they did this and just terrible heat and filth and stench, because this was July and some of these bodies have been decaying four days later on she some friends who helped but both of them became very ill and had to leave the latter. People noted that the men who came to help her got too sick to continue on and she was out there pregnant carrying on with it

these burials went on for weeks. She buried thirteen bodies on August eleventh, which was more than a month after the battle they were still burying the dead up until Gettysburg National Cemetery opened in October. That was formally dedicated in November, but that point a lot of bodies that already been buried or re buried there. Some other bodies buried in were green, were ultimately move to the national cemetery. In the end, Elizabeth buried, a hundred and five people with very little help. Ninety one of those were soldiers and fourteen are civilians. She wasn't compensated for the additional labour or for the loss of her property or the cost of cleaning and repairing the gatehouse. This was also a tiny, tiny fraction of the work that needed to be done. Gettysburg itself had a population of about twenty one hundred people, but about eleven thousand people die

as a result of the battle about seven thousand died of their wounds immediately and the rest followed. In the days and weeks afterward Elizabeth daughter, rose, Mead Thorn was born the September after the battle, and her middle name was named after general. George Mead, who had commanded the army of the Potomac it Leesburg Peter Thorn returned from the war in eighteen, sixty five and he and Elizabeth both died in one thousand nine hundred and seven and two thousand and two, the Gettysburg women's civil war. Memorial was unveiled. It depicts Elizabeth Thorn, clearly exhausted and pregnant with a shovel and although she is a woman who is depicted in this memorial, it is a memorial to all the women in now and I think a quick break and have a little word from one of the sponsors that keeps stuffy miss in history class. Going when you use zoom every day is a little better. That's pretty great five

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Of people killed in battle at Gettysburg was more than five times greater than Gettysburg's population of people living there and the gap between the towns, population and the number of wounded was even greater. Between twenty thousand and thirty thousand people were wounded. Most of them stayed in Gettysburg for at least some time after battle and our next subject as an example of how long this situation remained really critical, that active fighting at the battle of Gettysburg took place between July first and third you pay me, I marry Goldsborough arrived around July. Twelve. By that point there was still a lot of work to do Goldsborough was a nurse and one of many women from both sides of the war who went to Gettysburg during the battles aftermath to try to care for the injured and dying soldiers. Goldsborough, who is known as Effie, was one of many Confederates orders living in Baltimore, Maryland. She and other women there had been preparing for the fighting to come to them. So when get

Berger ended in a union victory and tremendous casualty numbers they travelled from Baltimore to assist when they arrived in. Gettysburg conditions were just really dial, nearly all of the doctors and the surgeons had left with their respective armies, so the very a few who were left behind were so overwhelmed that they could really only focus on the most urgent needs. Pennsylvania, huh. All at Gettysburg College was being used as a hospital for wounded from both sides, and that is where Goldsborough started working when she arrived here is how an unknown confederate soldier described the conditions there quote unless it was a case of amputation needed immediately or the stopping of hemorrhage, they had not time to attend to anyone. Thus, for the first two weeks there were no nurses.

No medicines, no kinds of food proper for men, in our condition and for men who were reduced to mere skeletons from severe wounds and loss of blood. The floor was a hard bed with only a blanket on it. Eventually, Goldsborough was assigned to Camp Letterman, which was a hospital camps that up near the battlefield. Goldsborough was in charge of a word with a hundred patients, fifty from each side and the words of that same confederate. Soldier quote Goldsborough, recognise the importance of showing no partiality, and many of both armies owed their lives to her good nursing, common sense and justice. While she gladly forgot party spirit of the time and saw the necessity of sacrificing herself to the good of the southern wounded dying, the leaders of the Confederate Army she remained. There are nine weeks working incessantly, forgetting the world and self living only to comfort and support the suffering and dying one of the men that sheet

to say, was Lieutenant Colonel Waller Tis, well pattern of Virginia who had been shot through the long and his condition had reached a point that he needs to be propped up to be able to breathe. But there was nothing there available for him to be propped up on and so Goldsborough offered herself sitting on the floor and letting them secure him to her back. So they were basic. Back to back and she was gonna forming a chair for him and although she sat there overnight without moving, his condition was too grave and he died on July twenty first, although she cared for men without regard to what side they had been on. Her work was not entirely above board. She do that the surviving Confederate

Cultures were going to be transferred to prisons once they were well enough and she thought they should have proper clothes and boots when they went, but it was against the rules to give them these things, probably because of the risk that they might try to escape if they had them. So she came up with an excuse to go into town, and she came back with clothes and boots secured up underneath her hoopskirt, hoping that they wouldn't bang together or fall out when she made her way past the union guards. This worked, Goldsborough left Gettysburg after about nine weeks shortly after the death of a Texas soldier named Samuel Watson who she seems based on her diary to have really become quite attached to she returned home in it sure. Family hardly knew her because she was so frail and exhausted, but eventually she recovered and she started smuggling again this time to try to get things like male clothes and supplies to imprisoned.

Better it man. She was also a courier and a spy, and she used a lap desk with hidden compartments to smuggle despatches. She was ultimately caught while trying to have a prisoner escape and her quote. Treasonable plans and letters and traitorous poetry were confiscated. She was sentenced to banishment for the duration of the war. By coincidence, she was sent to Virginia on the same boat as Bell boy who previous hosts of the podcast, have done an episode on. She apparently did not like a Bell Boyd, very curious about what the situation was there, but I did not look into it. She referred to Boyd Ass quote that horrid woman aside from demonstrating how Gettysburg's aftermath stretched on after the battle, Goldsborough story also illustrates how a lot of women put aside their political leanings to care for the sick, injured and dying Goldsborough, let's be clear, was a staunch supporter of the confederacy, but at the battlefields hospital she gave passionate care to anyone who needed it. No matter what side of

at all. They had fought on outside of the medical unity there. This definitely was not the case for all of Gettysburg Civilian Population, a lot of them refused to harbour or assist confederate sympathisers, including refusing to let sympathetic, nurses, bored with them and Goldsborough. Another confederate supporters were viewed with very understandable suspicion within their men. We'll work as well that fame unknown soldier, whose account we were reading from earlier reported that the reason her word was half and half federal and confederate troops was just to make sure she didn't do anything treasonous. The next swollen we are going to talk about is more Did it you'll also see that spelled debit or sometimes even when the name is David, and she was also known as mag palm. She was part of Gettysburg's black community. There were people of african descent in Gettysburg for almost as long as there were Europeans, some of the first Europeans to settle in the area brought enslaved Africa with them before that point, the area had been hunting ground and travel route for the native peoples in the area, but one

now Gettysburg does not appear to have ever been home to a permanent indigenous settlement. Of course, there is a whole history there. That is outside the scope of what we are talking about in this particular broadcasts, Pennsylvania PATH and act for the gradual abolition of slavery in seventeen. Eighty, so by the Civil WAR Gettysburg's black community was free and numbered close to two hundred people are not quite ten percent of the population, Gettysburg had a school for black children and an effort. Methodist Episcopal Church because of its proximity to the Mason Dixon lime. Gettysburg was home to a lot Underground rail road activity about a third of its black residence in eighteen, sixty had been, braided or had liberated themselves from Maryland or Virginia, but it was also an incredibly dangerous place to be, as a black person being so close to slave territory was

constant risk, especially in the light of fugitives slave laws that encourage the capturing of people and taking them into slave territory, regardless of whether they had been previously enslaved or not so Margaret Palm who had been born Margaret did it or it may be that it had direct experience with these dangers. She had been the target of an attempted capture herself, her employer, Son David Chick described it. This way quote on this occasion she was attacked by a group of men who made the attempts to kidnap her and take her south where they expected to sell her and derive quite a profit. She was a powerful woman and they would have from the sale derived quite

of it. These men succeeded in tying mags hands. She was spider, mammas best she could with their hands tied. She would attempt to slow them and succeeded in one instance in catching at attackers them in her mouth and bit the thumb off when we did this is our life show. There is definitely some cheers of support for mag at this moment, rightly so. In eighteen, sixty three palm was about twenty seven years old and she had at least one child and she was living with. Named Ouse Palm. They were tenants on the land of Abraham Brian, a free black man who had

in the area for about twenty years. Although a census taker listed her occupation as mistress harlot, it appears that she actually had a job working cleaning and doing laundry. It appears that this senses take her listed that as her occupation, because she and now we're not married at the time they have them words for that senses. Taker it have. The confederate army approached Gettysburg many of its black residents fled. They knew that if they see they were likely to be captured and enslaved. That had happened and lots of other towns that the army had moved through as they made their way into union territory. But leaving was really So a people would be leaving their jobs behind as well. They would have to go with them. Income for an unknown amount of time until the danger had passed. They would also be leaving behind personal possessions, which were really likely to be taken damaged or destroyed,

So Margaret was one of the people who stayed to act as a look out and warn the black community when they really could not wait any longer to go and weather morning many of Gettysburg's black residents did successfully evacuate before the battle began. Some that could not or did not leave, were sheltered their white employers or other friends, but this did not always totally work out. There is at least one account of two black women who were sheltered and a sour. But then, when confederate officers commandeered that home, those women were forced to come out and cook and care for them. At the same time, an unknown number of Gettysburg's black residents were captured by the Confederates and marched out of town. The house that Margaret and outward renting was largely destroyed in the battle a lot of the fighting

Sport was very urban, but she and her family survived her life after the war was a lot like it had been before she continued to make a living by cleaning doing laundry and working as a porter. She another black women, also retrieved uniforms from soldiers who had been wounded or killed. They cleaned these uniforms repaired them and sent them back to the union army to reuse. Margaret Palm eventually saved up enough money to buy property of her own, and she also became known as an eccentric character I'm town nicknamed mag palm at this point, and there were embellished stories recounting her daring do before and during the battle in her adventures. Afterward often the reported in newspapers, but in those accounts. Her speech was rendered as these. Sort of imagined dialect of enslaved people living on plantations in the south does not how she spoke. Reign was very similar to our plea This episode about the ain't I a woman's speech and how it would just sort of a made up, imagined, wave of talking,

We don't entirely know how she felt about becoming this kind of local celebrity, but she definitely did not appreciate how other people kind of took her story over for themselves and turned her into a caricature. She took care to tell her friends and her family about what she had done in her own words. She also had a picture of herself taken later on posed to show the way that her assailants had tried to bind her hands decades later, her group, Great granddaughter Catherine Carter related these family stories to another woman. They Margaret that was Margaret S. Creighton author of the colors of courage, Gettysburg's forgotten. History may especially talked about her fighting back against those attempted captors. Almost thirty years after poems eighteen. Ninety six death, Elsie Sing Master published a boy at Gettysburg which used poem, is the inspiration for the cure

Maggie Blue Coat and that fictional character was a conductor on the underground railroad and Warren officers jacket from the war of one thousand eight hundred and twelve. That's her blue coat nickname. It is possible that the real Margaret was involved with the underground rail road and with Gettysburg slave refuge. Society, which was founded by the African Methodist Episcopal Church, some accounts, her real story has been really conflated and confused with this fictional character, If she was involved with the underground rail road, she probably would have been a lot more secretive about it than the fictional character of Maggie Bluecoat. We should also note that Gettysburg was permanently altered francs. Community after the battle was over a lot of the people who fled, never returned most of the ones who did come back, we're people who had property to come back to you, a lot of that property had been seriously damaged or destroyed.

Hiding in the fall of eighteen. Sixty three. There were only sixty four black residents listed on the cities, tax role, which was a much smaller number than before the battle. Although the abolition of slavery, Pre made Gettysburg a much less dangerous place to live. From that perspective, it really became more of a stopping point. Then a destination, as freed people moved north after the war, and we are going to pause once again for a little sponsor break or we take a break. And then we will come right back with more of gettysburg women. The new this time tomorrow, podcast available now on the eye heart radio up or wherever you get your podcast join us as we explore a future full of possibilities in the age of five June. Imagine a situation where every automobile has got five g connectivity inside your driving and use lamp on the brake, because there's something else, that's right in front of you,

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of the battle which, with her first person accounts Tilly, was the youngest of for children and she was at school at the young, Lady Seminary, at the Gettysburg Female Institute on June, twenty? Sixth, when they first heard that the Confederate Army was approaching, their teacher told them all to run home ass fast ass. They could, although she was sure that some of them couldn't have made it before the troops arrived her, but give the day by day, accounting up the battle at first or turns pretty excited. She talks about the insults and indignities of the Confederate Army taking her horse. She also talks about their appearance and behaviour which he finds to be pre raggedy Ann rude, but apart from that she sounds pretty upbeat, but when the actual fighting begins, things quickly become brightening. She describes a neighbor passing by on the way to Jacob Quakers, farm south of town and asking fertility to come along.

Seeing that she was gonna, be safer there and at first this seemed like a perfectly good plan, but as the battle shifted, it turned out to not be true at all. The farm was not far from little around chop, and that was the site of active fighting. She describes the high House and barn becoming a field hospital for union soldiers and treating at least one hundred men until he's words quote, the number of wounded brought to the place was indeed appalling. They were laid in different parts of the house. The orchard and space around the buildings were covered with the shattered and dying, and the barn became more and more crowded had become terrible beyond description. This becomes one of those really unique insights into what the mindset of someone is like going through trauma. Tracy mentioned just a little bit ago that her accounts before things really started getting. He did we're almost kind of excited,

and then, in the early part of the fighting. Tilly was terrified and describes herself as weeping in fear, but by the third day she writes quote, amputating benches had been placed about the house. I must have become inured to seeing the terrors of battle else. I could hardly have gazed upon the scenes now presented. Her account also mentions the death of Mary Virginia Wade known as Jenny. Here's the only civilian known to have been killed directly in the fighting. There were other civilians who died as a result of the battle as well, including at least one who gave birth and was unable to get the necessary medical attend and Jenny was at the home of her sister Georgia, Mc Clellan, who had also given birth just hours before the battle started. Let Mc Clellan home was directly in the line of fire between the two armies. Jenny was me being dough to make bread for the union soldiers and she was struck by a stray bullet and killed on the morning of July. Third till he also writes about the commission's after the battle, as she was returning home quote

it was impossible to travel the roads on account of the mud we took to the fields while passing along. The stench arising from the fields of carnage was most sickening dead horses swollen most twice their natural size lay in all directions: stains of blood frequent Let our gaze and all kind the army accoutrements covered the ground. Fences had disappeared, some buildings were gone, others ruined the whole landscape had been changed and I felt as though we were in a strange and bladed and are killed and wounded had by this time, been nearly all carried from the field with such surroundings. I'm my journey homeward after the battle. Once the battle was over till he helped care for the wounded, shooting several union soldiers who were cared for in her own family, home and her book concludes with her adult self. Looking back on what had happened when she was a teenager and Gettysburg's recovery decades later, her tone is pretty optimistic. Quote years have come and gone since the happening of the events near me,

in the preceding chapters, but there is indelibly stamped upon. My memory is when passing before me: in actual reality, the carnage and desolation the joys and sorrows therein depicted have all long since passed away and set of the clashing tumult of battle, the grounds of the wounded and dying the mangled corpses. The shattered cannon, the lifeless charger the confusion of armies than accoutrements, a new era of joy and prosperity, harmony and unity prevails. After the war till he grew up. Married had children, lived her life before dying on March fifteen nineteen fourteen horses, a lot of eyewitness accounts of Gettysburg, including letters journals and published books, but it is also a unique perspective because it is from a civilian who is a fifteen year old girl at the time of the battle, and that brings us to our last women to talk. Today till he Pierce was an ordinary girl whose name we remember today, because she published her experiences in a book, but so

Other women and girls had very similar experiences in eighteen, sixty three, but there's were unrecorded and consequently unremembered say you ve probably heard the phrase. Well behaved women seldom make history most of the time. Will interpret. This is kind of a rallying cry celebrating the so called ill behave. Women who broke new ground and made strides in a way that change the world in defiance of how society that they should act a lot of times, it's kind of a makes them noise and go make history, but that Why didn't come from Eleanor, Roosevelt or Marilyn Monroe or any of the other? Historically famous women than its generally attributed to it, was first published in a nineteen seventy six paper and reckon quarterly by Laurel Thought, Thatcher all rich at the time she was studying at the University of New Hampshire nine tent was very different from the way that people usually use that quote today. It was

about all the ordinary women who lived and worked and made a difference in their world, but are not included in history books because their lives were quiet and pious. The full sentence from that paper is well behaved women seldom make history against antinomian and witches. These pious matrons have had little chance at all already eventually the book, exploring how this quote has spread and evolved and what it means for a woman to actually make history. So Gettysburg was just full of pious, matrons and other dutiful women and girls Most of the men who were able to fight were away fighting, so the people left behind were mostly women. Children, elders and people with illnesses are disabilities, so ordinary

women who lived in Gettysburg, were the ones cooking for soldiers and tending the wounded and otherwise being part of the battle, but not necessarily with the excitement or flare or personality. That would make them memorable to history. Those who couldn't or didn't leave ahead of the fighting found themselves in the middle of an active battlefield, and this was of course, tariffs. With many women's journals and letters describing hearing soldiers in their houses above them, while they hid in their sellers and not knowing. If those soldiers were friends are enemies, they went through all kinds of hardships going without food. After the army's requisitioned everything they had or having their homes used, a sniper posts, which drew enemy fire. They also endured the bowels horrifying aftermath with them. Buried bodies of people and animals, creating a stench so strong that they had to go around with handkerchiefs that were soaked in peppermint or penny royal, holding those over their noses and mouths. This lasted for months, pretty much till the weather got cold in the late fall and winter they turned homes and

Barnes and our buildings into temporary hospitals and helped care for the wounded they cleaned and repaired and dug graves in sweltering heat and torrential rain storms and often without enough food or clean beds to sleep in the railroad. And telegraphs were destroyed, so they did all of this without really being able to communicate with the rest of the world, and they also gave shelter to people who travelled to Gettysburg. Looking for friends and family members, who then became part of the recovery effort as well, and we also cannot forget the women who had made gettysburg their home but then had to make the choice between leaving it behind or risking being enslaved. So we named this up. So the fearless feisty and unflagging the women of Gettysburg, but a whole lot of women who were part of the battle of Gettysburg history, word necessarily any of those things. There were so many

ordinary women who were scared and exhausted, or we're just doing their best and an unimaginably horrifying situation, but their lives and their contributions still have value, and they should not be forgotten before we move on to some listener. Male, since this was alive. Show we just want to thank all the people involved with it. So is thanks. So much to the Gettysburg Foundation, and especially events coordinator, Bethany Jingling, for all of their help, leading up to and during the show and for inviting us in the first place, thanks also to Chris Gwen from the Gettysburg National military part for leading us on a tour of the battlefield. While we were there, that was great and thank you so much to everyone who came out and bore with us, through the whether we were getting ready. We reserve doing our final over of Oliver of havin some

are getting ready to go out there and Holly walked into the kitchen they had. They had put us up in a cottage. That's right there at the at the venue. Holly walked into the kitchen and kind of woe slick, we're way unless it it's dark outside and it turned out. There was a severe thunderstorm warning, including the potential for a half dollar sized hail, So thanks to everybody who didn't just immediately go home events to be, I picked out the window and could see people running from the top, If they had just postponements, they handle the whole thing so beautifully just kind of had a delay for a bit. We started about twenty minutes late after things had passed over. Thankfully it was quick

Breyer everyone stuck out, my was so so thankful for all the listeners it came out said hello. That was a really spectacular of ever had a fantastic time be to you. Now I have listener may help. This is from Ursula and merciless as high Holly and Tracy I listen here when a peg strike episode and loved it. I am from when a peg, and I never knew you just how big the strike was till this year when the city started, installing historic exhibits throughout downtown them Let's have a museum has an early nineteen hundreds recreated town inside the museum. It's a fairly large gallery, complete with homes business. And even a movie theater that you can enter some buildings are even to stories that was my favorite part of the museum is a child and a twenty two. It still is

The museum recently gave a massive one thousand nine hundred and nineteen strike update to the town. So I must say that my experience with the exhibit was made so much better by a small group of relatives of strikers who were also there that day they were passing on. The personal experiences of their relative walking through was really walking through a giant memory lane. It wasn't an event put on the museum. I just lucked out that day it was a really special and sweet. Thank you for all the effort, fun and passion you put into the show. I love it dearly Ursula. Thank you so much for this email Ursula. We have gotten several notes from folks about that about that episode, folks seem to have really enjoyed. So I'm glad I stuck with it, even though I felt like we were having a little heavy, those of nineteen nineteen earlier this this year. If you would like to write to us about this three either podcast we're in history

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