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Welcome to stuff. You missed in history class from has two weeks to come hello and welcomed the by TAT Time editor came then joined by riot. Jane Mckenna made again pay Jane. You are a huge movie bath and I am not as big above. His young actually allows to hyper really to sit, sit still and watch a movie from beginning and by you ve written the tent. Sick article about ten, historically inaccurate movies and just to give I listeners a little bit of background when how safe works Editors and writers come up with topics for articles. We send out what we call an initial approach and its a mass email that asks for people, suggestions and every now, and then there will be a topic that comes along the gets people email.

Back and forth like crazy? And this was one of em, and this was one of them Jane had response is coming at until like gosh, I think six o clock and she sent the eye out at eight something in the morning and about point in our case closed should pick the top ten she wanted to work with, and people were so excited. They were hammering her with requests for it and visitors a year. You mentioned, I am a movie above and this one reason living. I m really interesting history at an old like I might be showing my impressionable age when I say this, but when I grew up watching the Indiana Jones Movies, for instance, a really I'm interested in you know the Nazis, and even like ancient and Bilbil call history as well. I think I think those really drive they got me interested in history and that one point that a lot of fairly some historians make is that, even though films can be really really egregious leaking historically inaccurate, historic, give filmmakers credit. Firstly, sting of sparking interest in histories of that. If you want to know the whole story, you can look it up yourself, that's true

and I think that there are historical purists among movie audiences who want to see every single detail followed. Letter, and sometimes you know, that's that's a pretty. I'll order and a film that isn't exactly Oracle found by nature, but one that I really enjoy and have seen from beginning to end several times through is almost famous the director of that Movie Cameron Crow wanted so much for his film to be accurate, that he hired on Peter Frampton TB and anticipate director was all of these details and moving our inner really tallying of you. Now that the era and the musical thing at that time and Frampton say, makes a saw appearance and has seen where he and some other ban managers are gambling blight on me.

Opposite and you look at movies that are like literary dramas, for instance, that are a period pieces with the wind gone with the wind or even in other, the BBC. Many series on different Austin novels and things like that, and we see that these films that being hours, hours long because people are trying to be so true to the story? black and had revisited, for instance, is one that just came out, and I think that there is a BBC many serious based on the book that with eleven episodes lawn. Yours the movie theater production of two thousand aim, which means you can guess we purists, like you know and- and I dont know, because ultimately it was down to how the screenwriter wants to portray the bark and editors have to make very careful decisions about how to portray the narrative and thats. What gets historians I hold up is mine. Not this creative licence is taken with energy

art direction or how a person likes, but how the story is told and you can you can easily end up ruining circle persons reputation of today. It is precisely so what mind we're gonna talk about surround duties in one of the first ones. Candice is gonna talk about particular, and I was put on us in this one. You have to tell me about canvas, because I've never seen a believer not when I was growing up my dad. We're bade me from seeing it because it was so historically inaccurate. So please will tell us about it, and I just admitted today and I wait I'll catch. This is ninety. Ninety five and poker came out, so I think I was like TAT. Eleven years old at that point- and I save up all my baby sitting to go- see this film in a theater all not once not twice that five times I was crazy about Disease Pocahontas, and this is definitely one where the narrative husband skewed and the interest Keeping the audience I engaged in

notably, is the fact that it sort of revolves around a budding romance between Pocahontas Anita, african girl and John Smith. Who, of course, is that the british explorer who comes ever to scatter this potential colony and always- As you know, he becomes more entrenched and native american culture and she's trying to teach him in the ways of hearing how one can just come over and assert ones: cultural, Ah, you into a land at one wishes to claim they fell in love and ultimately, the story climax as when John Smith is going to be put to death cocoa throws yourself on top of ham and there's this in a very dramatic you know she stole Khartoum between. I think her hair is waiting just like no. No, you can't do that. Its great accepted sooner all went a crock Keyser. Pocahontas would have only ban like myself when I saw the film about ten or eleven, and so Don Smith was was much older There is never any romantic interest between them and poker

has any up marrying another british explorer? Who is it more in the role of a diplomat than anything else, and that was John Ralph Hooker and if you like me, kept up with Disease Pocahontas and saw the Streets DVD Coca honey. To journey to a new world. You know that Disney try to redeem itself a little bed by ending the poker story. On a true now where's realities is John Roth. Over John Smith That's really interesting. I have a little more respect for them now. Well, there you go area like I said critics, for instance, because here's this historical story being painted upon attended Didn't and many wrong ways and on children are going to have you back, and we learned that the real talent, school and ambitious whatever pinders the problem. That's true and another one that I address in the article that is another one having to do with a native em, can girl and of white explorer and

was a kind of a lesser known movie back in the fifties called Afar horizons and adult with the Lewis and Clark Expedition. Would you got before and on this voyage. Obviously, we all know anyone whose it all familiar with the voyage. They know that they picked up soccer, we're on the wane. She ended up being a great help to see the whole expedition, but movie in these in the fifties movie. I love me their choice Secondly, we are, was I Donno, Reed MASH? Of course you know from view issues the widest fifties house, where, if you ve ever seen an she eyes, she plays the native american girl who falls in love with William Clark, which is also curious because in actuality, shoe very visibly pregnant or when they picked her up and had her join with her husband, John Petite, baptized Charbonneau, I believe, is pronounced. So he was there is on the expedition is well. So I don't think there's any sparks going off between a William Clark and Psycho. Julia

and for what I understand. I, Renault, and secondly, we are sure that I too fer to borrow the clear language there. They didn't pick up. Second Julia to be their guide. Charbonneau and his wife just happen to come because she was pregnant. She was pregnant at the time and junior quite a lot about the land they are travelling through, and the people who day countered, says she turned out to be in greater help than her husband and furthermore, in the movie now is portrayed as a villain that Clark and Louis are up against. In reality that wasn't a story all yet as true Germany was always a help to them, and you know he did what he was hired to do and help them translating anything like bad. So I don't think cloakroom double or assembly ceilings. Life network another movie. That is, I think, is the water in this list is the bridge on the river, quite which, unlike a lie, I love the movie. I thing is fantastic:

we ve ever seen. You definitely should has our Guinness in it and he placed his british commander. Chrome Nicholson, so Nicholson is fighting over to his captured by the japanese Brian, to appear w camp and high ranking outside officer their ends. This camp there having the the allied forces, were prisoner there, the building a bridge for the Japanese, to help them in their military campaigns. The Japanese are forcing the allied troops troops to help build this bridge and Nicholson comes along and he actually becomes obsessed with building the bridge. He wants to make the best bridge possible any just lose track of the idea he so oddly, oblivious to the fact that he is helping of Annette. In war in his he just oblivious the end, and I dont want to spoil the the ending for you, but you have to see it in truth, listen is based on a real life. Guy his name is a lieutenant colonel Philip Tuesday, and he was the highest ranking our officer, indisputable camp and the police.

That was charged with building Burma, railway and people, Who saw the movie seed a sort of a slap in the face too would be real, live to see because it's true tooseemed was forced to help build this bridge and she was obsessed buddy. Obsessed with building a good bread. She was a pleasant keeping his men alive and loot distinction yeah. He was. He was a real hero to a lot of people. His granddaughter actually wrote claimed a book on on his wife and what he did and even though he did and of having to help build the bridge he did his best to you put in a little sabotage He could such as like what they would do, that gets wait ants in there, put them in the wood of the bridge to try to get it to get them to eat it from the inside, and he would also makes the concrete badly so hopefully it would crumble and he would see his his men get random beatings and he would step he was set in and you will get beaten as a result, and so this great hero of the war.

Sort of like his reputation is tarnished by this I'd. You know obsessive elegant character in the in the movie, so on people were of set about that and I again ass, actually guy an Oscar award or just the nominees I think a one year ago, and so is a big movie yards. When, when people with words for their portrayals of historical figures, it sort of the man, I think in the public mind that this is somehow more authentic or a carriage It carries a heavier wade's ended on. Why here- and I wonder sometimes you know films the theatres and if it's something too the grand scale of Pearl harbor, whether you know it's a pretty significant offence and american history and carries out of really heavy cultural impact. I think some of these people obligated to go, see it We even want to take it for what it's worth, but you can never discounts dramatic effect,

what filmmakers due to make a bigger punch on silver screen, and I think that the ending of In particular, it is its so laughably wrong, Sdr went. Eleanor Roosevelt rises from his chair at the very end of the phone, and that would have been completely empty. Well for him. I think my favorite from Pearl Harbor is the fact that they they have. One of japanese admirals saying a word. A line from earlier movie. I was completely fabricated line from Tortora Torah wishes. This movie about pearl, harbor and died, and so is to have both movie say it makes it seem, like others must be true before they must have said the sleeping giant line about him. Carbon who is related. It was it stay true to a Hollywood, at least, if not history right, and I think you can see some historical sounds like Shakespeare in love, which is another one that made Jane lest that sort of winking, we acknowledge false bits of his

an anachronistic details, and not just in the way that a movie like a night tell would incorporate music. That clearly many many many years saying anything walking away from may still thinking that they actually saying Queen songs our who is our on yeah yeah yeah. So- and I think another point to be made about this- is that it's hard to make a movie that really is historically accurate, not only in the details like what they were and everything, but the I think the moral ambiguities going on in history that mean we face them. Autonomy talk about them in the podcast. How how like these difficult choices, the people I d make, and you will get some- to see who had to aid in the enemy at war and when you make a movie, is much it's much simpler and makes for a better story to make things black and white definitely and waste in some of the older historical films that are on your list. I think it would have been an even more complicated process of showing a multi faceted political figure or historical figure.

In today's summit. I think that there is much more to be said about the subtleties of demography and the way that light can betrays and expression, that's just fleeting on a character space more, a very you know, said on movement or or detail can tip off audiences. Something isn't quite right here, but films haven't always work that way. You know you think back to territories where, for instance, while for Thomas Black and white, and secondly, it was very much done and in the style of old cinematography and you don't have room for subtleties and I think the work has gotten a lot more into aged. Are Hollywood, I should say, has really embraced going furthermore, Subtleties Marie, you know morally graves die it's become more popular by me. You'd get more tickets when we need is something that sort of shady and you don't really know, what's right, neuron yeah, so we see, for instance, represented at the very recent

wars and maybe like cross next done, where entities to green greedy characters are explored for the world to see you know we're not just celebrating famous historical percentages of the past were really trying to more. What then, Then how innovations must have been some pretty Annette called people off the path tat S true, not out there for you to see whether you want to see a great figures celebrated like I don't know, Thomas Jefferson or three harnessed the richer Nicht Nixon psyche explored and there's. Seventy more movies and Jane was that we can cover or say you're gonna have to carry the article yourselves and while you're there also check out the blog that the site is launching stuff. You, Mr History Class, as its own blog written by Canada and myself and we write about all differ, causes stuff every day and we love

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