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getting answer. Definitely not Thomas Jefferson, whom everyone love or at least idea real. Henry the gate, so he ran for thirty six years, fifteen o nine fifteen forty seven, and during this time I think somewhere between, like fifty seven thousand and seventy two thousand people were beheaded. There's an amazing when you think about it, especially on the fact that the The queen Mary, Queen Mary known as bloody Mary, actually only killed, while three hundred I say her six years and yet she's known for being the bloody? I knew how Thou is his daughters that we don't know if the owner she learned a thing or two former diameter. Why? But, as I see it, a few minutes, her her killings refer very differ, these and many Henry Henry Hanrahan re really start with Henry such a complicated man, and he wanted to be more popular than his father. His father set out you amass tons of monies are that the monarchy would be virtually unstoppable and unbreakable and the people kind of Hated

seven hundred again came to power. He wanted a couple of things he wanted Mary his brothers without anyone do more popular than his dad, and eventually he did both things, but then stir them both up near you could favour. He ended up killing two of his father's advisers, close advisers who are well known and unknown at the time for being responsible for love, the high taxes that were going on the oppressiveness that they hated Henry the seventh floor. Yet I was Edmund Deadly and Richard Emerson and like Jane we're symbols of the corruption at court, Selwyn Henry killed them instantly. His stock went up, but he didn't stop there, he started doing some things that the people did not like so much, and so one of the first wrong moves that he made when he was a court was that he may. An attempt to marry his older brothers, widow, Catherine of Aragon, juice from spanish royalty and essential

He was arguing that the marriage didn't really exists in the eyes of God, because they never consummated. At least that was the excuse he used to buy the Pope's hand. Yes, you get. The marriage proved right. Emu is exactly like you said he needed special permission from the Pope to marry her in the first place, so that cause a lot of trouble later on a dead until after all of that hoopla getting two Erika of Aragon. He decided that he wanted to divorce her, he Chiel. The big reason was, you could say that she had not produced him, a male air and he as someone do in his family, his lineage to pass the crown down to end this marriage ah well in fine by those with the queen, did not produce any males so Henry turned around and he said all right

doing nothing for the tutor family and I guess technically it was ascend to marry you in the first place, so on we're getting divorced and now, as in the Pope, said now, because you said in the first place. You know you pointed out as long as that is not a cent to marry someone if the married hasn't consummated. So that's what we're gonna take by Henry. That's that yes, Henry one of the Pope by saying. Well, you know why the Catholic, it doesn't matter anymore, I'm the church, This was a very move on his part because he's figure, and that he supported the church during the protestant Revolution. Basically that happened. Earlier on in He wrote a lot of things against Martin Luther. Who was crowded with instigating the revolution and dumb and so He made a lot of friends. Catholic friends in England who, like us, are Thomas Moors is one who helped him talk. Like right things that were against Martin Luther and align himself with the Pope and the church. So when he broke with the catholic Church here

at the start of the english reformation and essentially, what he did was he created a modern sovereignty which, as you know, are thrown independent of the church, but he didn't really Ceuta thought time. He wasn't trying to make huge strides. England, he just wanted to get what you want it in the bedroom. Quite frankly so, and he wasn't just blindly unrolling his marriage from Catherine. He had his eye on someone else luxury and her name was Anne Boleyn, yes, and I am sure many of you have heard- that name and even if you know you don't know the full story, She wise on his mistress for a time beings was a very young member of the courts and her family so she caught the kings. I and her family being rather enterprising group of individuals or why don't you exploit that an end, so she did and it worked and- England to turn away from the catholic church, and I haven't really really don't ever is huge mass yeah and died. It ended up is not working

All that well for anyone really, because an didn't produce a male either she produced a daughter yet now air array, the thing is Henry really loved her at first. We know for a fact that really really loved her and she was incredibly unpopular courts she wasn't getting any sympathy and after she failed produce a male ere. She was just kind of AL, but Henry is reason to kicker out of bed. So, of a lie that she wasn't adulterous and one of the lies that eventually revolved around her was that she had actually wasn't adulterous with her brother, so had an affair with her brother, and so this idea of sin incest is obviously people. Lash citizens. They already hated her end is one of the reasons why she was executed and now of an but angry, really couldn't be satiated throughout his life. We instantly in history cm espousing one then an calling them off and inventing these reasons, and it's not as though the people

England were sitting back at the Simon condoning at soon by the country. I am sure that they were very upset that they were probably also very afraid of ham, because this was a man who killed and none he killed cardinals. He killed adviser she killed were members of the court in most of the stemmed from from his separation with the church, because one c wanted to marry Anne Boleyn people such as us about Thomas, more and Colonel John Fisher to be his adversaries were arguing that did they would they. They did not want to sign themselves under his oath of supremacy that Henry Head had come up with and they weren't going to repudiate the church, and in turn to Henry as their new Pope, basically by because Henriette hurt himself the head of the church and gods living. I guess terrier ambassador on earth have carte blanche to pretty much do what he pleased was really dangerous, yeah for you now the monarch to have, and there were people who did voice opposition to Henry and one of the more

once actually through funny, because she was such a humble and money affected figure to do so. Elizabeth Barton, etc, and she was young girl and she was such a basically a servant and she does when she was about nineteen and she started getting visions that would she claimed divine visions and messages from God saying you know him, cannot marry Anne Boleyn. You cannot let this happen if he dies, he's not gonna survive long afterwards, and so she started saying these visions and Henry was a little upset about that, and so there are p divided into distinct camps. Those who thought she was crazy. There's you having legitimate visions and others who thought I guess she was speaking out. You know against the king of the act of treason and the archbishop of Canterbury, some good insight. He thought. Will I forget this girl sitting in a convent and He spent nine she's going to gain some cloud. Dead and she had these visions for more than ten years, and eventually she was accused of trees.

And arrested, and when she was put on trial. I dont know if she was frightened to the point of confessing that she was thinking out or she really wise, genuinely faking it all along your average retracted her statement. Then there was the end of her. So? She really went out by retracting your statements anyway now, but you re, as you mentioned, they made her unknown and some in the kind of work to the fact that she was from then on, as the none of Kent is. If you look back at these members of the church, the Henry Oppose and and all the harm dick. To them Fischer Wiki mentioned earlier. He was very, very opposed to Henry's Norman from Catherine and he was behind. But later four hundred years later, actually he was saying TAT yeah- and I imagine not giving in to this oath of supremacy- put him good night with the church for that. Can innovation is really scary with active Clare and it would be like. Are you as President today saying

yeah. We already have a separation of church and state that there is nothing short of a near religious power and that's me, and so I can do it. I want you to think of everything he has at his disposal. Not only does he have a national treasury, but he's got he's got them. Harry and he's got all these councils that he overseas he's got the infrastructure everything under his thumb and because he is the new supreme ruler. He could do it, every wives and meanwhile he throws caution to the wind. When it comes to morality and gets to go out and be with as many women as he wines and when is tired of wine, he gets to cut off her head and go on to the next one. Vienna. Imagine he instil fear in every one of the time since he was cutting off. However, he thought you, whatever is whims, told him ride and When we look back and Henry, we have to wonder what are they born opposition dying. Was there any one who actually supported him and scarcely enough yeah

The other was yeah. It's interesting. There's this one character named Thomas Cromwell, who supported him throughout his is seek for divorce from its first life so that he can marry in Berlin, and I he once the catholic church is done away with in in England. He basically it swept through. Be disbanded the monasteries? You did away with taxes that were paid to roam at that time and dumb after the marriage to an didn't work out, as we said, Henry Mary, Jane Seymour and not Doktor Quinn, medicine right, a different case, your computers, and thus she actually did. As I know she did produce a male air for him. But she died all that later and turned lay it on the line that the sun was kind of a weekly child and ended up dying kind of young too. But that's that started up dad after Jane Seymour died Cromwell, who this is his friend at this time. Harry Earth, Sorry Henry to marry and of cleaves, and

This was a disaster. Basically, there is our political allies of Germany, that's right, yeah and dumb. It didn't work out from beginning because Henry hated her she, he didn't think she was pretty agent in like or kept her personality dust it hated each other, and so he would not have any more so we went in divorce any sort of blamed Cromwell for this marriage because, like obviously, he orchestrated as political move as candy said so a no to all of you legislators that their listening dont be matchmaker haze because you never now that's true a sort of they Cromwell behind road there, and actually, after that, you can see other moved the tables terms so much because it remember when we said that he dismounted monasteries stuff, like that against the catholic church, but a time he got connections with Lutherans and so his enemies, Cromwell's enemies. At this time made these connections try to convince the king that he was a heretic, is obviously a hand was not for Lutherans. He fought against solutions as well and so

convinced Henry and TED chopped off and Are you look at what happened after Henry stone and his daughter came to the shore and Missus Mary, Queen Marian Bloody Mary and here's. What so ironic she was devoutly, religious and- She tried to reinstate reinstated and the reason that we car bloody marries, because a lot of people died under her hand when they are burned at stake for you're saying so all that it ass he caught work or rather the groundwork than her father lay trying to separate the church and say it. She tried to fix and it didn't work in the long that from then on out man, what a mass and after Mary and then that's when I was with came the throne and those whom we get shakespearian Elisabeth an error on the restless history. If you want even more about Elizabeth and Shakespeare and marriage or blood, be sure tat,

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