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took an axe and gave her mother nineteen wax and when she saw what she had done, she gave her father ten wait, that's not much of a nurse I am glad that in rhyme, that's because the real Ryan, Sir, is a lie. It says she gave her mother forty wax and gave her father forty one. That is not true. Lizzie Borders is one of the pod casts that we have always resisted. We probably get this request, maybe more, than any other topic. I don't know I don't wanna put one above the other, but its way way up there along with Jack the Ripper. That kind of thing that this subject has never interested us much because you're here story, a woman was accused of brutally murdering her parents and hacking their faces to pieces, but she's. Waited, and we still don't know. If she you did it. That's that's the whole story and that's kind of your standard nightly news fair. I mean I hate to say it, but it's something that happens almost every day. Monica

the story of someone who murders a family member is nothing new. You know we ve got Cain and bull and colleague, cooler and drusilla, but we had to read think our point of view, because if so many of you are captivated by this story, there must be a reason why Do we aim to put our prejudices aside and try to find it? So here we go. Ok, the basics of our case on August forth, he ninety two and fall River Massachusetts, a one as brutally murdered in her home with a hatchet not long after. Her has then meet the same fate while he's asleep on a couch in the living room. The main suspect is there, Thirty two year old, daughter, Lizzie Boarding, and we have a few possible motives, money there is a very wealthy man or hatred of the step. Mother sat mother, that's a crucial part to the store, a combination of the two, a combination of the two area, so the jury's verdict is acquittal and knots. Prob,

The main reason why people are so fascinated with a story: what really happened, how did Lizzie Boredom get acquitted a little family background to start with a Sarah Anthony Morse married Andrew Jackson boarded the Christmas of eighteen, forty five and they had three child together Emma Alice and Lizzie Allison At the age of two and Sarah herself died when Lizzie was about three, so she never got to know her mother Sarah mentioned Andrew was very wealthy. He owned property, he had holdings and textiles and banking. He directed Corporation ends, and one would and they made him an attractive prospect for a husband, and so it did What's has two young girls and so lazy the re Mary than he marries Abbe, Dirty and Lizzie was about at the time and Emma the older sister about fourteen and according to leave these tests. Near the inquest Emma always

her stepmother Abbe, but Lizzie always called mother until about five or six years, before the murder went down, so make of that what you will, but the seems like this is a woman he thought of as her mother for most of our life. And again later, when the dossier Jose Knowlton asked if Lizzie relationship with her stepmother was cordial, she replied. It depends upon. The idea of cordiality, perhaps which isn't exactly the picture of a happy but Emma in her trial testimony so that their relationship was cordial and that Lizzie and her father a very good one, so we're gonna get you the outline of if she did it. This is what happened so. Here's to some basic starting fact list in Emma both admitted that they were upset about their father, giving one of his properties to Abbey and her sister, instead of them, you're both older,

your unmarried and expected their elderly father would provide for them and set them up for the rest, their life financially and occur to some. There was this rumour that he was gonna change, his well in favour of his wife, and that might cause a few family problems. I'd say so on August third, which was the day for the murders, Lizzie attempted to buy prussic asset, a poison from pharmacist Eli Bands, and he refused. But the burdens and their made Brigitte Sullivan all reported feeling sick that day and the next morning data on August for Emma was in Fair Haven Massachusetts, but there were a few. Their people around. That made me just mention Brigitte, but also color, randomly the deceased ferris. Their John. More so, with these uncle families uncle on her mom side, he's visiting had arrived the night before, but here

in the morning to go visit, another cousin. So not around when the murders go down, but he's there immediately before, and then he comes back so soon after Andrew Gordon Father left the house that morning as well to get some business done in town Abbe stayed in the house she began doing chores and added to the guest room to make the bad enough put on pillow shams tidy up, and she asked to wash the outside of the windows. If she's in the house, bridges outside the house, the only other person his inside the house is Lizzie. Gordon. Ok, though, according to Lizzie story, at this point Abbe believed a note from some messenger. We don't know who calling to some sick persons home, we don't know the sick person either and Abbe left the house on this errand boy,

This is where our events are gonna start out like if Lizzie debt at hears. What happened, though? What happened then? If Lizzie did it is she found Abbe on the second floor, hitter from behind with an axe and then act her eighteen more time and she left the body she cleaned herself up and the axe. She knew her father will they wouldn't come home for a while? I ended up being an hour and a half In the meantime, she did some reading and some ironing and selling you know how you can was hers between murdered and when turned Bridgett unlocked the door for him and asked He did. She heard Lizzie laughing on the second floor, landing after she had killed her stepmother, so listen, told Andrew that his wife had received that note and it got off on their errand and she, startled him down on the couch and tried to convince Brigitte

go out of the house. If there is firstly a really get Salem Red, then strain the nail who can resist arrogance and taste the maid, but Brigitte isn't interested. She instead goes to the attic. Billy worn out from all that window, washing in her upset stomach from the poison the night before, but possible poisoned hath wavin so after Lizzie settled her father on the couch. He falls asleep and then supposedly she hit him in the face and had with the axe ten times. So hard that she snaps the hand off the axe then, in ten minutes. According to the timeline at the police tried to put together, based on when everyone said they were doing that day in and lilies own conflicting testimony. She had to clean herself off her clothes and the murder weapon in ten minutes only then axing someone ten times That would be a messy seen yeah, I think so, and only after this did she called her

for help and announced that her father had died. She don't say anything about Abbe, because she thought that Abbe had left the house is off on errand so now we're gonna move on to the bodies and the scene and MRS pretty disturbing staff that Abbe had five inch hole in her skull and her head and her faith were complete and recognisable she was lying face down in calculated blood and her clothes were soaked in it and the bad hello sham next to her were all bloody. The wall in the chair and the bureau all covered in blood of just a small, disturbing detail. Her raid had even been hacked off. Andrew was on his back on allowances, face turned ass, he slapped and his face, and two were no longer recognisable. You can find pictures of the crime scene online if you so does, air which you very well might not. The axe had gone through

cheekbone. It had suffered his eye and half hour. There was blood dripping onto the floor, and from the sofa and on the walls of painting on the wall, the ceiling of the door and I was still wet. And flowing when others entered the scene, which is why we assume that Abbe had died first and he had died. Second, but it seems very personal to attack only a person's face and had to us definitely- and in so many times too, but here's an employee, detailed, the rooms were perfectly in order. There is no sign of a break and no sign of a struggle. It seems likely that whoever did this new a couple and also the borders kept all of their door's locked all of the time and supposedly This is because there had been a fast in the home and perhaps Lizzie had a three of shoplifting answer. Their house was always lockdown, which pays rather disturbing seen for the house to

say it make her move out, not will in dumping of it. Just like the front door. Is love like a normal house would be, but all of the rooms and everything just completely locked down all the time, If it is all locked, the person probably would have had to be in the house the whole time yeah exactly so after the murder. Where's he called for budget. After this ten minute, wind We have and then sent Brigitte to go. Get the family doctor Doktor Bowen Brigitte could and the doktor. He wasn't there. She comes back without him and then he sent her out again this time to get a family friend Alice Russell In the meantime, their neighbour, Adelaide Churchill, showed up and she went off for her. So, just imagine all of these people coming in an hour. But large periods of time were Lizzie is in the house by herself, possibly doing anything done.

When does come to the house finally and Bridget, and Adelaide Return and they're the ones who discover abbeys body upstairs, because of course, that police officer asked Lizzie the last time you saw your mother she's a new and often those I think, another yeah and she said He was gone from the house for the last time she had seen her was in the guest room, so the maid and their neighbour go upstairs and find out these body, and you can imagine we ve already listed all of these people who are at the crime scene, thin we have more authors more neighbour than onlookers. Everyone is trampling all over everything. Police are walking through the crime scene that evidence whatever evidence there would have is completely contaminated and one Katy discrimination. Then here an officer on the scene Lizzie when she laughed in her mother- and she was very careful to say no, it's nice. Mother and she said her mother died when she's a baby, and this turns out too

a really big piece of evidence- or at least it keeps coming up and turned into a big piece of evidence that I don't know how much how much there is today if she was just trying to be very precise, the owner and obvious her stepmother it no matter what can relationship they had. So no one thought Lizzie. Guilty and instead all manner of suspicious characters are implicated lives. Mentioned an angry tenant. That she'd heard with her father, others recalled seeing suspicious men near the house recently, including a mysterious portuguese farm hand who perhaps with fiendish murderer that ends up not panting out and another portion He's guy had recently killed someone in town, so we thought maybe his hand and arrested a different one. So try not to be portuguese around the board and murders early newspaper accounts, they said that Lizzie had been in the barn she came into the house. She saw her voice His body rushed up stairs and found her mothers and their

they were counted any possible theory. This angry tenant, a man had been leaping in the hayloft and planning these murders, someone who was poisoning with families, milk, some kind of tricks, who sent Abbe this note to try to get her out of the house and commit other sinful d seven and go after Mister Morton. The newspapers are suggesting Lizzie as the possible murder at all. At this point, according to the Boston, Harold, quote in Lizzie burdens life. There is not one unmaidenly nor a single deliberately unkind act, so people were pretty content it was not this well bred a young woman. It was some sort of dastard the man, preferably a Portuguese. Farm hands or as far a mysterious man whose briefly in town it couldn't be Lizzie boarding herself, but the evidence starts piling up because who else could have

According to this time line and all the other aspects, like the locked doors she was much the only one and this mysterious man fairy begins to seem a lot then levies, isn't a good mysterious manner out now and she is emerging as the most likely suspect, especially after her inquest testimony. So the inquest was Gus, ninth and its Jose Norton questioning her and also Brigitte and John Wars and some of the others and Lizzie content. It contradicts herself about times and the sequence of events, and she said some very odd things. She seems confused by the questions and was disquieting. We call yeah and just a few days later, on the eleventh of August, she was arrested and clear, She was not guilty by August Second, there was a preliminary hearing and that the judge said well, she probably is guilty and she's gonna have to go in front of a grand jury, but

the grand jury wooden agree to actually need until at that the judge said: well, she probably is guilty and she's gonna have to go in front of a grand jury. He was that the friend a neighbor remember she said that she saw is a burning addressed in the kitchen just a few days after the murder. So once the grand jury, here's fatter like our aid. That is an indictment we better here. We better here would lead the US to say trial began June. Fifth, eighteen, ninety three and again somewhere fabulous newspaper, quotes and Austin. Harold quote her dark stress eyes. Ordinarily, flashing redeemed and her pale face was evidence of the physical suffering she was undergoing and had experienced for living, poorer Lizzie through the the commission was led by their Norton and William Moody, the defence, Andrew Jennings, Melvin, Atoms and George Robinson and married to the jury that Lizzie had planned. The murders committed them

and then couldn't even keep her story straight and they haven't seen it here from marine issues, not reacting as a woman in this, Why should she hated her stepmother? She wanted her father's money, that's the story that they were presenting, but There are plenty of things that Lizzie had going for her starting with she's woman of breeding from family. She does newspaper quoth. She had plenty of character, recommendations and not many people thought a woman was capable of hacking. Someone's face to pieces in a poison sounds like a nice feminine way to kill someone not a hatchet, and then we have the character references coming in here to do so sister and her uncle and made all said that she had it relationship with Andrew an Abbe. There was no motive to kill either of them, and then this is a third of the crucial thing they didn't

the murder weapon. They have some access There are plenty around if you ve got a barn and they ve got one that doesn't have a handle, but there's no blood anywhere on it and Seeing the handle two. It could be the acts that it could just be a broken act sitting around from farm work and we also have no blood on her clothes are her shoes. We have nothing, no blood, so almost It's not a really great case for the prosecution, completely circumstantial, and then this is the killer. Here for Mary Unintended, her inquest testimony, which is why of course, made the judge think she needed. Go in front of the grand jury in the first place was ruled inadmissible in court, and that's because the judge believe that she had been treated as a prisoner instead of as a fuss

while she was having her inquest and jaded like she wasn't just a witness she was under questioning. Yeah should have had an attorney president, since she didn t, you didn't think that they could actually take her in quite seriously. And as a side note, Doctor Bowen had dosed her with morphine before this in class to keep her calm, but obviously that could have made her kind. Lupi. So I mean that could explain her country either. You wanna go to moaning and why everything can a confused her, but the prosecution was thing. Even in her English, she denied everything. There wasn't anything in the inquest confession: yeah. She wasn't coerced into confessing to these murders and cause she's all doped up on morphine. If she didn't confessed to it, then why couldn't you that I was there their point, but testimony was excluded and also ruled inadmissible was Eli bans the pharmacist his testing. Me about her trying to buy poison from him. These are two key points that are missing from

tire trial that Lupi Inquest and the poison fact, which seems very significant. So there is still a fair amount of evidence against her, though according to breathe at the the made. There was no way anyone else I've gotten into the house during the time one of the day without being seen, an Lizzie was simply the only person who would have had access, and I also thought it very strange that Lizzie didn't wonder where her mother went and that she was so in the house and didn't hear her being murdered and falling the ground. You know. Maybe after you come across your father's body, you begin to wonder what happened to your mother, God be with just hear her falling upstairs, but the fire we may have said that the lazy in Abbe had a pretty ok relationship, but others were testifying? No, they Lizzie hated her stepmother

and the trend. The family friend Alice Russell said that Lizzie had come to her the night before the killings and said quote, I feel afraid something is go. To happen so starting to paint a darker Sure of Lizzie psychological state. Before this Lizzie also said she had been in the barn during the time of her fathers homicide, though, when officers to investigate the loft, it was very dusty and there were no footprints, but the officers own which seemed a little bit strange and it was also extremely hot and there she claimed to have done there for thirty minutes on this silly and looking for, lead for, sinker is which again something's not quite there may be not an area of choice. In the middle of the day and then Is that note, which seems very soon Indeed the note that Lizzie SAD, MRS Boredom received no one ever found the no. No one ever figured out who the messenger was no one ever

fitted out through the thick person was he needed visiting in the first place, there was award offered. Nobody came forward with any news, again. Her timeline that day made no sense and the dress Alice saw her burning. She said it had paint just doing a little order cleaning. Some days after an area- and it could very well of course, have been blood and the dress that she gave the police and said she was wearing that day. Wasn't the dress wearing at all at the time of the murdered it with a much too, is silky and can have a nice dress, not the sort of thing you know your address around the house and then Lizzie with you. We can, during the whole trial, according to the New York Times, quit the most remarkable feature of the tree. Has been the demeanor of Lizzie burden from start to finish: she's men, still no feeling of weakness and listen to the recital of the most com.

Blooded and shocking details of the crime with a perfectly in passive and unmoved countenance, I maintain it could have been shock, could have been shocked. But here we with discharge see the papers turn a little bit against her. So she does day when the sculls of her parents were revealed they consider that a point for her fear. There are some rebuttals. As far as that whole dusty hayloft thing there were some men doing work a few days before the murders, like listen. We were in there and there no footprints of ours either. So this is a ridiculous piece of evidence and also would a killer be that open about burning address in the kitchen? That was further point. Wouldn't she be sneak hear about it? You gotta get rid of the draft agenda, of it and again, whereas I bloody hatchet where's. This acts handle that supposedly came off from the force of the blows. How could you wash herself, her clothes and a murder,

Then, in about ten minutes before she called Brigitte, some people were like. Maybe she did it naked and that's how that I mean come on, certainly paint the wilder. And then one more file, important rebuttal Andrew, was a really rich guy. So it's not too unlikely that somebody might have something. Can stammerer wanna get money somehow and then some people did say that they had seen suspicious characters just nobody, they could system quickly name hanging around the house ripe for the murders. One again, this is all circumstantial evidence, and there is a reasonable doubt and I think we now agree. If we were on that Jerry, we would have thought the same thing judge agreed unless he was acquitted, fell picking up with Lizzie life after the murderers, happens after a trial like this and informational murders like this Emma

He bought a nice house together and fall River Lizzie named it Maple Croft and changed her name to less death, came very involved in church, but eventually moved out. They had some sort of falling out. Argument on, possibly because Lizzie had a relationship with an actress and Emma changed. Her name as well. And they died only nine days heart, which is one of those. The key little connected to the area desire little thing there. You go guys Lizzie Board in at the third- and I mean we ve gotta- think about sort of modern connections to what we see in the news right well in, and why it so important I mean today, like you mentioned earlier, when you're looking at the news, the murder of a child or a spouse or a parent, is unfortunately, all too common and after a while, maybe the horror of that being so shocking, and maybe it's easier to contemplate a crime like this

the safety that distance provide you're, looking back at it in time, it's not so present, and this become such a part of Amerika. More that we ve got a nursery rhyme about it. Yeah Lizzie borders become a colander sphere rhyme. Maybe the plane ride, not where you thing in the nursery No, I visited Salem about a year and a half ago, and The burden is not from Salem, but there. All these shops with Lily boredom memorabilia and in others, hologram thing where it's. This stayed portrait of nice, but Lizzie burden, and then it's like scary acts our guide. That kind of thing I think it it just she's occult figure she's caught people's attention from now swear always fascinated by Gore and violence, human beings in general, not just sir- and I am, but also by what is unsolved, because you know we like to tie up loose ends. We like

find our answers, but in this case the only real, soon spying answer would be for this important to appear right before us and say yes, I did it perhaps a hologram I hope it will just be the real her, but that's the answer we can't have and that's what makes it all the more alarming. If you would like to tell us all, you were clusters of Lucy Boyden, exactly why this matters to you the wandering. So you can email us, the history podcast it howstuffworks dot. Com were also on twitter and missed in history, and we have a facebook fan page and there's an article that might go along with it. How blood stain pattern analysis work that you can buy search, our homepage, W W w dot housetop works dot com.

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