The Mississippi Summer project of 1964, now known as Freedom Summer, was a in part a voter registration project that was met with an extremely violent and deadly backlash.
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Creative primary care welcome to stuff you, minister, Three glass, a production of Iheart Radio, hello and welcome, but the pod gas, I'm Tracy Wilson and I'm here We frying over the last few months with date of Georgia, made a lack of headlines when its voters elected Joe Biden for President and then in a run off elected John often Raphia were not as senators. This broke a decade, long pattern of Georgians electing Republicans rather than Democrats into these roles. These elections followed just years of organizing and advocacy and illegal work and voter registration efforts in the state and the person whose become most widely known for all this work is still
the Abrams really, though it involved. Multiple civil rights and voting rights and labour organisations, along with individual people and Abrams, has made it entirely clear that it was not work that she did by herself. So I just wanted to call that part out too. As I was watching all of this unfold, my mind kept returning to other earlier voter registration efforts in the United States, and one of those is the Mississippi summer. Project of nineteen sixty four, which is how better known as freedom summer. This project was met with an extremely violent and deadly backlash and in some ways that backlash has overshadowed the work that the projects set out. Do and that work actually about a lot more than registering people to vote. So that is today's topic for the show and before we start I'd swatted to shut out the pod, asked seen on radio, especially its fourth season, which is called the
that has never been yet. That is a twelve part series. Exploring the history of democracy I did state and the many many ways, but it has not actually You been all that democratic episode. Seven is on freedom summer and it's what inspired me to put it on the topic list. When that episode Burst came out in April of twenty twenty, because a creative context realized freedom summer a little differently than I have it before so for some context about what led up to freedom summer in the early nineteenth succeeds Mississippi, existed in a state of deeply oppressive, violent racism. Most of its black residents were still working in the same jobs that their ancestors had done, while enslaved things like tending in picking cotton, doing manual, labor or doing domestic
and these were overwhelmingly the only kind of jobs available for them. Most of Mississippi's. Black population live in poverty. The? U S, Supreme Court had ruled that public school segregation was unconstitutional and Brown Verses Board and nineteen fifty four, but in the early sixties, Mississippi was one of the places where schools were still segregated. In spite of that ruling, some of the school buildings for black students were actually relatively new, but the schools themselves were deeply deliberately underfunded. Fewer than one percent of Mississippi's students, graduated from high school at the time, and many black people in Mississippi could not read or write. This wasn't a case of pettiness or the Mississippi government, just not caring about the quality of education for black students. It was an entire. General effort to keep Mississippi's black population in a state of ignorance,
was the same logic that we had led to laws, making it illegal to teach enslaved people to read a century before in many parts of Mississippi, white people were in the minority and like in slavery of the past. They knew it, we harder for black people to organise if they lacked literacy and a basic education throughout the south white citizens. Councils had formed in the wake of the Supreme Court's decision and brown verses
These organisations were made up of powerful high profile white citizens and they were dedicated to maintaining a state of segregation and white supremacy in the places where they operated. Although white citizens councils and their members could be violent, these organizations tended to be more focused on things like legal and economic oppression than there were on physical violence in Mississippi, the white citizens councils were so effective at maintaining the racial status quo that the coup Klux, clad, which tended to be more overtly violent, didn't have much of a present until one thousand nine hundred and sixty three and on top of all this, as we said at the beginning, Mississippi was a place of violent racist hostility. Black people were expected to maintain a demeanor of total difference and subservience to white people. Any saved lapse was punishable by violence or even death. More people were lynched in me
Sippy than anywhere else in the south, including the notorious lynching. A fourteen year old, Emmett till which took place in Money Mississippi in nineteen. Fifty five ep started establishing field offices in Mississippi in the early 1950s in late. One thousand. Nine hundred and fifty four Medgar Evers was appointed NAACP Field Secretary for Mississippi and by one thousand nine hundred and fifty five, the n double ACP was the most powerful civil rights organization in the state, along with the Mississippi Progressive Voters League and the regional Council of Negro leaders, the end of a lazy p worked primarily on issues related to voting in Mississippi, including offering voter education and support and registering to vote, and I believe he p. Youth councils also offered civics education for young people to prepare them to register to vote once they were old enough to do that. Most
This work was done discreetly because the level of racist violence in Mississippi was so extreme, but just the active, registering to vote was incredibly risky under the fifteenth amendment to the U S: constitution quote the right of citizens in the United to vote, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color or previous candy and of servitude, but in Mississippi anyone who wanted to register to vote had to face a white destroyer and those registrars routinely denied registration to black people. This was not just a matter of the registrar say
No though, a two dollar pole tax was financially out of reach for Mississippi's poorest people, who were disproportionately black. There was also an extremely unnecessarily complicated application form. There was a test as well, and once again, this test was unnecessarily complicated even to the point of being unpalatable. It involved interpreting a section of the state constitution. It was up to the registrar, what passage you were given, and it was also up to the registrar, whether you're in Hope rotation pass the test black people also faced intimidation and threats during the entire process. Things like the share of standing in the room with on hand on his gun and the other on his baton. While people tried to take those impossible tests, especially small towns and rural parts of the state, where everyone knew each other, the sheriff or the
Destroyer might pointedly mention that they knew your employer or your landlord. Who would not be happy if they found out that you were trying to register to vote beyond a convoluted process and the threats and intimidation. Black people who tried to register to vote in Mississippi, often faced actual retribution afterward, whether they successful. Where registering to vote or not. If you were black and you tried to register to vote, you might be fired from your job or of from your home or run out of town entirely. Somebody might burn across in you yard or fire bomb, your house or you might be arrested, beaten or even killed as a consequence of all of this by one thousand nine hundred and sixty two less than Ten percent of eligible black voters in Mississippi were actually registered. This was the lowest percentage in any state it was after years of work on the part of the end of a lazy p. The Mississippi Progressive Voters league the region
Council of Negro Leadership and other organizations, what there's other organizations, was the student nonviolent coordinating committee or Snick Snake had been formed during the lunch counter. Citizens that we talk, about on the show in January of twenty twenty was formed after alibi her convened a meeting of youth activists, Shaw, University and Rally North Carolina members of snake started. Arriving in Mississippi in nineteen. Sixty one snake activists quickly realized that the car direct action. They ve been doing during the lunch counter sit ins and other demonstrations was not what the people of Mississippi were really looking form the threat of violence in response to such an outward protest was just too great, but on top of that, Many of the direct action campaigns that had taken place earlier in the civil rights movement just were relevant to a large portion of Mississippi's black population If you are a sharecropper living in a rural part of the state, their pay
we was no lunch counter for you to patronize at all, nor were there MRS, like municipal buses, to integrate as had been done through the Montgomery Bus boycott. So as snake activists established themselves in the state, they started looking for a way to turn their attention to what was relevant to the people of Mississippi and what MRS Riis black residents wanted was to be able to vote so that they could vote racist officials out of office and we're gonna talk or about that after we pause for a sponsor break. Hey it's Holly was in everybody, is spending lots of time on video conference calls these days, but during those long golf there's someone else you'd, probably rather be connecting with you. Wanna be online with your fiends. That's right, fiends, not friends, because best fiends is the game that everyone is completely obsessed with download best fiends for free from the app store or Google play and boom you'll be Thomas Superfine, five star rated puzzle game once you
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in the early nineties, sixties led to the creation of the Mississippi Summer Project and ninety six one. The freedom rides, which were organised by the Congress of racial equality or core tested, whether bus lines had integrated following the Supreme Court's decision that interstate bus segregation was unconstitutional and is included integrated groups of freedom writers, making their way into Mississippi. Many whom were arrested and abused while in prison once they got there. There is, of course, a whole lot more to this is one of the many things that have come up in the episode so far that we have previous episodes on. We actually replayed previous hosts episodes on the freedom rights as a Saturday classic reckoned twenty twenty. Also in nineteen sixty one James Meredith applied for admission to the University of Mississippi, which was still not admitting black students and that launched a legal battle.
All the way to the Supreme Court in nineteen sixty two, the Kennedy administration announced its voter education project, which would provide funding and tax exempt status for organizations that were working to register black voters. Part of the project's goal was to Courage, the civil rights movement, to shift away from direct action demonstrations and to focus instead on voting which they administer, and saw as less confrontational and evasive. Civil rights organisations knew that this was a strategic move, I'm a government's part to try to influence what they were doing, but they also saw it as an opportunity and, as a result, in nineteen sixty two, the Council of Federated organizations, was formed to act the umbrella organisation it brought together, Snick CORE and W C p, to focus all of their efforts on voting rights and registration in Mississippi in the fall of night,
sixty to the Board of Supervisors of the floor. County Mississippi, voted to end its participation in the federal surplus food, Commodity programme, That was a critical food source for thousands of the counties. Black residence snakes, old organizers concluded that this decision was in retaliation for their voter registration work in the county. Although the border supervisor is denied this allegation comedian. An activist de Gregory brought about fourteen thousand pounds of basic staples, including baby food to the area in a chartered plane. They Gregory's their nation, guy a lot of media attention and activists in Mississippi is escorted, trying to figure out a way to keep that focus going to make them. West of the country. More aware of what conditions were like in Mississippi and an idea on how to do. This was proposed by Snick Field Secretary Robert Moses Notice, Bob and
Lowenstein, who had been a freedom writer and had worked with Snick to coordinate a mock gubernatorial election in Mississippi in November of nineteen sixty three that mock election wrought in about a hundred volunteers, most of them, while the try to demonstrate how black voters could shift elections if they could freely Freedom summer was more ambitious than the nineteen sixty three mock election. They would bring as many as Thousand volunteers, most of them white to Mississippi the involvement of white students, would mean that the white man and the general population of the rest of the country might actually pay attention to what was happening. There and organizers also knew that white parents were likely to start contacting their representatives in the federal government and otherwise demanding action if they thought that their children were at risk. With idea was deeply controversial, though the groups that made up the Council of
rated organizations were integrated and they had worked with groups of white activists before the civil rights movement as a whole had also The ongoing work of jewish christian activists and clergy and plenty of black activists who were already in Mississippi had come there from somewhere else. As one example, Bob Moses himself had been born in Harlem But this idea of just so many young white students, all coming from other states into Mississippi, was really troubling through a lot of people. There were also concerns that these students, who would mainly be recruited from prestigious universities in the north, would be too idealistic. Or unwilling to work under the direction of black people. This is compounded by the fact that many of the most experienced activists in Mississippi were by this point, exhausted and burned out,
Plus this was in a hearing, dangerous work and anyone who participated was putting their own lives at risk. This idea had its supporters as well, though one of them was Fanny Lou Hammer, who is definitely on the list for her own episode in the future. At some point, hammer was a sharecropper and a time keeper on the plantation where she worked. She had become and organizer for snake and had been forced to leave that plantation in August of nineteen sixty two after she led a group of black people to register to vote. In an interview with Terry Groups, Snick activists, Charlie Cobb, who had been born in Washington DC, described hammer as back him against a wall and saying Charlie, I'm glad you came down here. What's the problem with other people coming down here, the controversy went on until the summer of nineteen sixty three on June, twelve of that here. Thirty seven year old and Tbilisi P field Secretary Mega Revers was murdered
zone driveway ever had been. Born in Mississippi am he had been involved in boycotts of service stations that refused restroom access to black people, along with other boycotts and protest activities, and he had also helped investigate the murder of em. It till he had faced a series of death threats before being murdered after two different jury he failed to reach a verdict. His murderer white supremacist and coo Klux Clan member Byron Della back with, was finally convicted in nineteen. Ninety four
first murder was wet, led many of the people who had opposed the project to put those reservations aside, the Mississippi Summer Project, as this idea came to be known, was announced in February of nineteen, sixty four by James Farmer of CORE James Foreman of Snick and Bob Moses of both Snick and the Council of Federated organizations. They would train young white volunteers and activism and non violence. Then he's volunteers would come to Mississippi where they would live in the homes of Black, Mississippi Residence and work on three interconnecting projects, one was talking to black residents about registering to vote. Another was to recruit these same people into a new political party. That was the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party and the third was to teach at freedom schools which were independent schools that were meant to fill the gaps that had been left by Mississippi's intentionally bad public
education system for black students, the voter registration effort was an uphill battle. Volunteers went door to door in pairs one black in one way, to encourage people to register, to vote and to offer support with the registration process but most people they talk to. You were understandably afraid to register. Although about seventeen thousand people tried to register to vote during freedom summer. Only about sixteen hundred were success but many more people are willing to join the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party by late summer of nineteen sixty four that group had eighty thousand members the freedom schools were also was success and they grew in number over the course of this project. In the end, there were more than forty schools that served more than two thousand students they met in church, basements, homes and parks, and in places where children were working as farm labour, they held their classes. At night, some of the schools had night classes.
Adults as well. The day often began with freedom, songs like ain't gonna, let nobody turn me round and from their volunteers taught reading and mass black history blue literature and art, civics Dance drama muse storytelling and other subjects sums had their own newspapers or they stage their own, plays. Although the volunteer Teaching in these schools were nearly all white. The curriculum was developed by black people from Mississippi according to their own needs, as we noted up at the top of the show, the white response to the Mississippi Summer Project in Mississippi was incredibly violet, and we will talk about that after a sponsor break. Hey, it's crazy, everybody's spending. A lot of time on video conference calls these days, but during those long calls there's someone else. You'd, probably rather be connecting. With gotta be online with your feelings. That's right, beam
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buddy in organizers of the Mississippi Summer project worth selective about which volunteers they accepted for this they needed people who are responsible and level headed and who would carry out the instructions of their black hosts and organizers without her. Station, they had to be willing and able to follow the project's principles of non violence, and that meant not resisting or fighting back, even if they were physically attacked and they have to understand the risks involved, including the risk of being seriously hurt or killed. Because of this work. Many of the volunteers went through a two week: training and orientation at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio which included every from how to behave to how to non violently protect themselves, while being beaten, volunteers
also trained on how to keep themselves and others as safe as possible. They would be staying with black families and working with black organizers and they needed to know how not to put those people at risk through their action. Since I am, both training really highlighted the fact that a lot of the volunteers had good intentions, but they didn't really comprehend what they were about to face and one session a group watched a video of the registrar from Forest County, Mississippi, whose appearance and demeanor and speech seemed almost like an exaggerated caricature was not an exaggeration at all. He was a real person when volunteers started laughing Snick fields, We were conducting with training, were understandably outraged. This level of caution and effort to train and prepare the white volunteers was absolutely justified during the Mississippi Summers project the homes of at least thirty black families and more than thirty
black churches, were fire bombed or otherwise destroyed. Just one night, the complex claim conducted a coordinated cross burning, simultaneously burning crosses in almost eighty percent of the counties of Mississippi. There were thirty five documented shootings in at least eighty volunteers were beaten, with four of them being critically wounded. There were also six known nurse volunteers, for this project started arriving in Mississippi on June, twenty first of nineteen sixty four and the very day, while others were still training in Ohio. Three civil rights workers disappeared. They were James Cheney of Mississippi, as well as Michael Foreigner, who was newness Mickey and Andrew Goodman, shorter and good. And were both from New York. Shorter and Cheney were both field workers who further Congress of racial equality and good men, was therefore freedom summer and had just finished his training. At my Emmi University, it was Goodman's first day
in Mississippi. The three men had volunteered to investigate the bombing of a church where shorter had been working for CORE Cheney was driving them back to Meridian, Mississippi when the show by county deputy Sheriff sessile Price pulled him for allegedly speeding and arrested all three men after Cheney was allowed to pay a fine at about ten p m at night. This men were allowed to leave the jail and told to get out of the county, but they never reported back in with their friends or other activists, the time the F B, I did not have a field office in Mississippi, so FBI, it's from New Orleans started a kidnapping investigation on June. Twenty third authorities found the station wagon that the men had been traveling in that had been set on fire and was still smouldering when they found it. This led the FBI to call this the Mississippi burning case, most of the
divests for Mississippi had concluded that the men were dead as soon as they did not check in a scheduled, but for the white volunteers. Really brought home. How much danger they were really in worried. White parents started calling the capital to try to ensure that their kids would be safe and foreigners. Wife Rita made a series of media appearances in which she consistently put the focus back on the project and on conditions in Mississippi she was one of the people that made a lot of demands for increased, like federal attention on what was happening in Mississippi and on this investigation. J Edgar Hoover called her and her husband, communists and there's a like. A phone recording between Hoover and President Lyndon Johnson Lyndon Johnson says the sea was worse than a communist, that she was ugly and means a ham like that's. Their treatment of her was not good at all. The FBI established a Mississippi field officer.
All of this and other, they didn't really investigate that. The crimes that were going on, they did search for chain each Werner and Goodman. They found the bodies of eight other people during the search after receiving a tip law enforcement, finally found the bodies of Chinese Werner and Goodman buried at an earth dam on August. Fifth, nineteen sixty four all three had been shot and Cheney had also been severely beaten, although more than twenty men, most of whom were members of the complex clan, were arrested and Should this crime, a Mississippi judge, dismissed the charges against them the only way for the federal government to have jurisdiction, was to file civil rights charges rather than murder. Charges in nineteen sixty seven
Team men were tried for having violated federal civil rights law in relation to these murders and all white jury found seven of the men guilty, including deputy sheriff price, the jury deadlocked in their verdicts for three of the accused and they acquitted the rest. None of the convicted man served more than six years in prison and the only person to actually be tried for murder in connection of all of this was EDGAR Re Killin, who had orchestrated the attack he was convicted of manslaughter in two thousand five and ultimately died in prison. President Barack Obama awarded Cheney, Werner and Goodman, the metal of freedom, posthumously and twenty fourteen and their bodies were discovered just a day before the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party held it State Convention and Jackson Mississippi to elect a delegation that would travel to the Democratic National Convention in Atlantic City, New Jersey,
later. That month, throughout the national Convention, the Mississippi Freedom, Democratic Party also maintained a twenty four hour. Visual for the three men and a protest which included signs, bearing Logan's Lake one man, one vote. We noted earlier by this point the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party had about eighty thousand members, and the parties goal was to represent Mississippi at the Democratic National convention rather than the democratic parties. All white delegation and their case for this was really clear, cut the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party had followed all of the democratic parties, rules and procedures about its own convention and its own delegate. Selection meanwhile, Mississippi's Democratic Party had systematically excluded black his appearance and many of its members had orchestrated a campaign of racist terror against the states, black population, multiple p.
Testified on behalf of the M F dp before the Democratic National Convention Credentials Committee, including Shhh Werner, Martin Luther King Jr and Fanny Lou hammer hammers testimony, was particularly damaging and compelling. She talked about her own experience, trying, register to vote, after which the owner of the station where she worked and lived had, told her to withdraw her registration or leave. She also talked about being in a house that someone fired sixteen bullets into Anti talked about. Rest, while returning from a voter registration workshop on June nineteenth nineteen sixty three in jail. After about a rest, she could hear officers beating and shouting racist slurs at other people who had been arrested with her. Then officers forced to black prisoners to come into her cell and to beat her so badly that she had
permanent kitty damage, hammer ended by saying quote. All of this is on account of we want to register to become first class citizens, and if the Freedom Democratic Party is not seated now, I question America is this erika the land of the free in the home of the brave, for we have to sleep with our telephones off the hook, because our lives be threatened daily because we want some live as decent human beings in America. During all of this, President Lyndon Johnson was worried that he was going to lose the support of white southern Democrats if he showed too much sympathy toward Mississippi's black population, He was also generally fearful that something was going to go wrong at the convention and he'd wind up losing the nomination, so he hold an impromptu press conference. While humour was speaking, one that people thought was going to include the announcement of his rent
made but which instead announced that it had been nine months to the day since his predecessor, John F, Kennedy had been assassinated The strategy on Johnson's part did not work out, though the fact that he had pre empted hammers testimony became its own story and many news programmes pleaded its integrity during their next evening broadcasts, so Johnson instructed Hubert Humphrey to negotiate with the M ftp, suggesting that he would be selected, as is running mates if Humphrey was successful. Humphrey tasked Walter Mondeo with working out a plan, and that plan which model is the one to announce, was for two members of the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party, one black and one white, to be seated as delegates at large. While the all white democratic delegation would be seated as normal if they would support Johnson for President
The national democratic leadership also promised not to seats any segregated delegations in the future. Although this was framed like it was a compromise, the Emma DP did not see it. That way at all and refuse to accept it, a decision that divided the movement as a whole. Many of the all white democratic delegation from Mississippi also withdrew from the convention, rather than promising to support the democratic candidates, afterward many of the empty of peas delegates were able to get badges from delegates from other states who are sympathetic to what they were doing. So they could enter the convention hall, but the chairs for their Missis
be delegation were removed. There were people, mostly people from outside, Mississippi who were involved in the civil rights movement. Here were like you got something you should take it, but the delegation from Mississippi was like it is not enough and it is unacceptable. So this attempt to appease racist white people did not really work out for Johnson although he did, when the presidential election most of the southern states he was trying to hang onto including Mississippi, went for republican candidate bury Goldwater and after another to Malta, with democratic national convention in nineteen. Sixty eight, which came up in our two partner on Cohen's hell Pro and twenty twenty. The democratic National Committee established Mcgovern Frazier Commission, to try to reform their entire nomination process. So angry
said earlier. Although seventeen thousand black people tried to register to vote during freedom summer, only about sixteen hundred were approved by county registrars and the Mississippi Freedom, Democratic Party was not seated at the Democratic National Convention, as they had hoped and overall had thought that they would be so terms of the three initial projects of freedom summer. The freedom schools were the most outwardly successful, however, for a bigger picture, look at things, Erin Henry, who was president of the Mississippi Stay conference of the end. W c p during the nineteen sixties described one of the biggest positive outcomes of freedom. Summer
as quote the human relations aspect or in the words of Fannie Lou Hamer quote before the nineteen sixty four summer project. There were people that wanted change, but they hadn't dared to come out after one thousand nine hundred and sixty four people began moving to me, it's one of the greatest things that ever happened in Mississippi. In addition, the Freedom School served as a model for the federal head Start Programme, which provides early child
education and health and nutrition support for low income families, as well as various programmes that were part of the war on poverty and at a national level. Johnson find the civil Rights ACT of nineteen sixty four on July. Second of that year, during freedom summer and on August sixth of nineteen sixty five, he signed the Voting Rights ACT which outlawed things like Paul taxes and literacy tests, as well as harassment and intimidation. When people tried to register to vote, it also specified that jurisdictions that had a history of this kind of discrimination, the have pre clearance from the district court for the District of Columbia or from the? U S attorney general any time they tried to change their voting laws and policies, freedom, summers work. Raising awareness about conditions in Mississippi contributed to the passage of both of these laws, particularly the Voting Rights ACT and the Voting Rights ACT.
Turn dramatically affected voting access in Mississippi by nineteen sixty nine, more than sixty six percent of eligible black in Mississippi were registered, which is more than five percent above the national average. However, and twenty thirteen- the? U S, Supreme Court, issued its ruling and shall be county verses holder, which invalidated that pre clearance requirement in the Voting Rights ACT, and this has led to an increase in voter suppression efforts. There are often not as obvious as they were in Mississippi in the nineteen sixty so today, They are things like disproportionately purging black indigenous people of color from the voting rules or shutting down the polling places in those communities walk. Being them open and predominantly white communities or thing voter I'd, be laws that disproportionately target people of color cut.
Pulling hours to make it harder for people who don't have flexible work schedules to vote and then signature matching requirements which are often really subjective and they disparate. Fortunately effect older voters and voters of color, whose signatures and thus votes are thrown out. If they don't exactly match yeah, that's it.
Your match thing who among us can replicate their signature, particularly if one of them is on like a digital, scream, verses, Yan paper it so hard, and that also like my mother physically, cannot vine anything. My my father's signature has looked like an indistinguishable scrawl. The first letter of his first and last name is like us as a discreet thing, but the rest of it is just kind of away bee line somebody's, comparing those two things by re, objective criteria- and you know they are both. Seventy five years old there in the categories of people who are likely to be thrown out under those kinds of requirements. Once again before we wrap up this episode, the whole the land that has never been yet series from seen on radio is highly recommended. The freedom summer episode
interviews that host John being conducted with people who were part of freedom summer, so that is another great way to get additional context on this whole topic. Yeah, I am part of me- doesn't want to describe it because I like having the experience of listening to it myself ass, a marvellous but a lot of their people that he is interviewed. Are our people a few, I love to hear speaking- and many of them are no longer with us and there they are from a documentary he had done some years before so more of the people that he was interviewing were still alive, then than are now, but that whole series I was too, as it came. It is extremely worth listening to you, as are there other they ve done other. They seeing white, which is about the history of the idea of race and racism and there's one called man. That's the history of patriarchy. They are all very, very good. Do you have very very
listener Mayo ideas from April an April Anthony good evening, Tracy and Holly. Before I begin, I just wanted to say thank you for continuing your work throughout the current madness that we have found ourselves in your podcast is the much well that and formative distraction. I recently listen to your unearthly urine. Twenty twenty episode released on, I think she anywhere thirteenth, twenty twenty one. I can't remember if it was part one or two, but you both mentioned the recent discovery of a firm, a poem in palm hey. You describe the beautiful image on a sum that possibly described the menu items like the rooster and fish and others that were more decorative. Like the water nymph, he also described these somewhat odd inclusion of a dog highly. I believe you said your husband was particularly concerned about the fate of the dog. Well, he might to fear, I'm not sure of the two of you are aware that there is a precedent of canine, imagery and companion artwork below. You should find the linked to a baby.
The article, which shows a picture of a mosaic depiction of a guard dog is literally a thin. Trees, old version of a beware of the dog sign based upon the fresco it may serve the same purpose as Mosaic. Although I am not quite sure why a guard dog would be to be at a food card, but hey Ancient Rome was a lively place. Obviously this is merely lecture. Although I have studied art history, I do not claim to be an art historian, nor an archaeologist thanks again for your work. I really love your podcast. It is a nice balance of instruction and laughter which, as a teacher, I can appreciate in early April, and thank you April in previous email about the dogs added both because of the like, providing possible context for why the picture of a dog is there, but also it just made me imagine viewed style whose clientele are so unruly, but they just gotta have a dog. God hand, I presume it so people don't thieves directly from the things
The good news is my husband, because he was very worried about this ancient dog found. That's you he's that he heard me so but I super appreciate it in its. It is one of those funny things you now you get fixated on something in there. You are looking up ancient dog, imagery and pumping. So thank you again for emailing as April an if you like the email us about this or any other pike, throughout history, podcast add I hurt radio dot com and we are also all over social media at Mister history, so you'll find our Facebook and twitter and Pinterest than Instagram. You can also to our show. On the I hurt radio app and apple podcast than anywhere else get your bypass stop. You missed in history class, the production of Iheart radio for more public
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