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Let me now about a story I had missed in twenty eleven. I see the ice man had a girlfriend. I know the truth, news to me It's not a situation like another big news story from twenty eleven. When that I did manage to catch the Roma. Era, Romeo and Juliet of Montana, who are too skeletons, found kind of romantically buried next to each other. Holding hands staring into each other's faith. Archaeologist have not unearthed a lady at sea lying next to the ice me and which is what I was imagining. I was thinking how have they missed? Another s body there, Eighteen anyway, I mean, more importantly, have you, MR because I didn't realize this. Sarah Dowdy hasn't at sea obsession. I it's not an idea that you have a crush on a nice man. No, that would just be growth is five thousand years all true I mean

an interesting guy, and I think that interest will be conveyed later in this first to clear up. Matters analyses girlfriend she's, just in the same general area and from the same general time period, but we're gonna talk about her a little more at the end of that, while research That story, though, to plan, and I realise that twenty eleven has really been. Where was kind of a banner year for Iceman NEWS in general, there were theories that came out about how he lived and how he died. That completely turned earlier theories upside down. So how bout a new at the third and entire episode on everybody's favorite com

age. Man, including I mean he's gotta your favorite coverage, mantilla, latterly absolute narrow it down like he's, definitely falls into that category. For me, but it's just an interesting story to emulate spans five thousand three hundred years with all these twists and turns, and a deep freeze in the middle of course, though, we usually start off these pikestaff with the early years of our subject. We can't exactly do that for this absurd whip, so we will start with the discovery of sea instead, which happened September nineteenth eighteen. Ninety one to German, hikers Erika and Helmut Simon were out enjoying some fine weather in the Stall Alps near the border of Austria and ITALY, and they decided to take a little short cut and wound up walking past a gully filled with melted snow in, of course, there's all this white Snow White ICE everywhere, but something brown

caught their eye and they thought maybe it was trash and they went over and looked at it. I know it was much more horrifying than that. It was a dead body with a few pieces of birch bark around it. So how scary they figured it was a dead hikers. Who had got lost in the gully in recent years, something like that and global warming? the Simons took a photo, and then they left her report, their findings to the authorities, the next day men drills, arrived chip away the eyes still holding the bodies lower torso and legs, so not real I think that this was a stunningly rare archaeological, find they damage the bodies hip and had to abandon their

for us as the weather started to turn bad. So, by the next day, some people were starting to notice that this body, with not clothed in like hiker gear from the eighties, or something it within some decidedly old fashioned. Looking garments. Still, though, nobody really had much time to think because the weather was getting worse and worse and it was making the extraction a real nightmare, but by September twenty third, the body was finally removed and of course no archaeologists were present to witness it, because they didn't think that this was an archaeological matter at that. At that time there was one lucky catch thou. The whole thing was filmed by the Innsbruck University Institute of friends

medicine, which has really then useful document for researchers later on the frozen corpse along with some of the string and hide an ax near his body, were then flown to another area of Austrian were ordered under the direction of the local prosecutor to the institute, a frantic medicine Phil we everybody, is still operating under the assumption that this was not an ancient body. It was an poor, unfortunate hiker and it wasn't until six days after the Mummy was found that an archaeologist was finally summoned in attracting vowed with Conrad spin learn

Innsbruck University and after reviewing the body and the acts he came out and said, he was sure that it was at least four thousand years old. So of course, this sort of change, the situation, change matters. The bear and authorities started trying to figure out who is actually in charge of the body, because we mentioned earlier that the Simons had been hiking near the austrian italian border and of course the presence of glaciers can make border determination a little bit tricky. Sometimes just a few weeks after the discovery, a new borders, steady came out. That said, definitively the find had been located, not in Austria but in ITALY. Only ninety two metres from the border, so that change things little bed still the problem

South Tyrol now responsible for the body, was content to allow the first forensic examinations to take place in Austria, scientists Innsbruck cut the Iceland torso and also made cuts on his back the top of the skull and his legs, though this kind of-

drawing parts of the body a little, but at the same time the researchers today call those invasive procedures, the austrian windows and in nineteen eighty two. They went back in a once whether got better and everything had await about a year. They went back and a few other key artifacts were recovered at the scene like a fingernail, a bear skin had some hair some grasses and see. Fourteen analysis also later confirmed similar suspicion that the mummy with at least four thousand years old turned out. He was a lot older than that, as we have mentioned it had then about five thousand three hundred year fence. This copper age guy had died out there on the ice that made him older than the Faro, older than most the bog bodies in Europe. So truly a unique fine for our college. Ass, the ice men's great age made the media go crazy. I mean you can probably remember ice

specials on tv for a million years ago, plus all the questions about him. Who was he? How did he die? Was he a shepherd, a showman or an outlaw with he a vegetarian? Was he sacrificed some speculated that he was a hoax? Maybe an egyptian are peruvian Mummy stuck in the eye. Others realized he was more than just a passing new story and he needed a name. The unease, journalist window was the first to coin a name I see from the valley where the body came from, but it was just at these great age and the mystery surrounding his life and death that made him such an impressive, useful, find he was wet. The South Tyrol, Museum of Archaeology called a wet money, which means a mummy. His souled aren't desiccated, though normally would think of egyptian mummies they're kind of animal.

Dust in a thief non dust for Hake maker means that he could be subjected to scientific procedures without just crumbling away. So, after all these years, more than five thousand years he's still a bit elastic, you can kind of perform living, human or recently dad human type proceed on him. So over the next decade, as he had x, rays, TT scans study This might of conjugal dna bone and tooth analysis, thorough analysis of any policy on in or near his body and so bit by bit. This picture of the ice man started to emerge that they found out. He was five too. He had been raised, is Arco River Valley, but lived in the Van after valley. He was old for a coffer each man, so he was about forty five years old and he had the aches and pains to prove it. He had healed rib tracks,

yours healed broken knows worn down mowers, but no tooth decay. I find that quite impressive. I think there's of maybe a seat. There are to be learned or some new cook collars, something in it, but he had hardened arteries. Also, though he sue had though Rio lines on its fingernails and those meant that he had had some kind of major Strasser illness eight weeks thirteen week in sixteen weeks before he died. Sometimes if you go through some serious illness, your fingernails stop growing. That leaves behind the little line. He also had tattoos covering his body, but not decorative tattoos. They were small, charcoal crosses and lines and they were located on the knees: ankles riff, insteps calves, lower back in

This is where, if you were a forty five year old, especially a forty five year old, copper age, you might have some chronic pain and some of these spots even correspond to acupuncture point. So researchers really do believe that they were some kind of remedy for four. He was experiencing hey listeners. I wanted to tell you about a new podcast from my heart. Radio called the women hosted by rose red. It fascinating and deep dive interview show where rose talks, to change makers in disruptors and she finds out what really drives them. So she will ask each of them. What was your first stand, and how do you navigate success and failure and really what's the cost of fighting for others? Interviews are really personal and their candid em for those are a little bit crass, but they are always really enlightening. You can listen to these. Your brands, and take away lessons that will help you navigate your own life and for your own path. The debut season includes women, like Valerie

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Eric anomalies, including missing twelfth ribs and no wisdom tee and a few ailments too, he had a whip, worm infestation and possibly flee. I think a couple flee bodies were found on his person, no big, surprise there, but he often might have been able or might have been equipped to handle at least the whip worm infestation among his gear, worthies hides strips with birch fungus attached and birch fungus is. It has antibiotic properties that can help fight intestinal parasites and with ease till pretty recently to to do so in some areas of the world. So he had his own medicine with them. He had a little medicine cat. He was also well dressed for the chilly spring wrote whether in which he died. He wore a loincloth leggings and a jacket all made from hide. He supported a woven grass, Heath and the aforementioned bear skin hat. He also had some gear with them. He carried

dagger and tender kit, with a flint from about a hundred and fifty kilometres away, which suggested some sophisticated copper. Each trade had gone on. Still, though we know, we figured out a law that the lack of information about this guy, who has been dead for so long that fingernails dont, really answer questions about who at sea was like what did he do and maybe most intriguingly? Why did he die alone in the mountain? So since the body was found on a traditional hurting route, a lot of ex initially thought that he might have been a shepherd he might have been out there tending his herds. That, aside from the grass Close

which is traditional shepherds gear. He didn't have any other equipment. There was no wall, there was no crook, no dog here and no animals around him either. So a few other ideas have popped up over the years, including a showman. You mention that, when a layer of earlier no ritual objects on his person, a flint trader, but no trade goods, an outlaw, that's an exciting one prospector. He didn't have any good tools for that or a hunter. So a lot of these very that certain come in and out of fashion with no real, definitive answers, but the question of how he died did get a big push in July, two thousand one when researchers, Paul gardener and Edward Garter Vigo, announced that new X rays showed an arrow head buried in a key shoulder.

Couldn't determine at the time how long would have taken for that arrow had to kill him, but they could say that you ve been shot in the back. So then, the plot thickened in two thousand five, when a garter, Vigo and Andrea's Chee near Lish of the lewd wigwam ACT million and university in Munich, announced a sizeable defensive, stab wounds that had been found on its he's right palm. It was partly healed. He had received it three to eight days before death, so this information combined, see tee scan suggesting at sea died on an empty stomach, lead to a new narrative of at last days. The ice had had a fight sustained, a cut to his hand, and then

through this analysis valley toward an alpine pass before his enemies caught up with him and polished. My fill the about was the theory for a few years and gossamer, eventually retired, but he just kept on looking at old Iceman fee teeth scan for their, though that's nice man obsession very deeply now, but it it ended up paying off because in two thousand nine, according to a national anti graphic story by Stephen S, Hall, fascinating decided that the ice means empty stomach was really his empty colon and his actual stomach looked like it may have been pushed up under his ribs of the big question. Now. Is there anything in it? Because if there was that way, dramatically change the working narrative? So plans were made to do a total investigation of the ice man, unlike any previous examination, really kind of an autopsy performed. While the ice man was in a state of

flight melt and everything would take place through this austrian windows you mentioned earlier made in eighteen ninety one, for there would be no new incisions, no damage done to the body. In November, two thousand ten. After a marathon session researchers came away with one hundred and four, nine new samples and promptly rephrase at sea it's likely to take years, analyze. All the findings were two thousand eleven already showed major work so by June, two thousand and eleven Men's genome had been sequenced, revealing that he was closely related to southern Europeans of today had law, disease congenital risk factors for heart disease are stroke, was lactose intolerant and had brown, hair and brown eyes, not boys earlier believed, and in August twenty eleven it came out in the journal of archaeological fires that a thief had now

in fact died. Hungary, within just a few hours of his death. He had eaten a hearty meal of eye that making the old, on the run theory really pretty unlikely and replacing it with one of joy one post, lunch relaxation and then finally, an arrow in the back and in a quote given to the Iceman Museum Albert and think of the institute for mummies an ice man in Valvano. Italy, explain that at his stomach had shifted after his death under his ribs and that concealed it, of course, during the earlier examinations- and he also said quote, but we wouldn't have been able to have a large meal under the heavy strapped of a chase. It much more appears that he considered the situation safe enough to rest and eat a heavy meal. After the strenuous assent shortly afterward he could have moved a short distance away from his place rather than with killed by

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boil down to the roman foreign strip of stuffy, missed in history glass or come over to our social media. We have posts about it. There too, I don't think America has ever gone back to the way that it was before nine eleven million fracture tat fear was really that there would be a second wave of attacks. And then along comes the DC sniper and all of the countries. Worst fears are realised. The gunman most likely a skilled marksmen fired six times in the course of sixteen hours and then, as the DC sniper case, unfolded that terror boldly group she found out about this. Terror art, and this message to police the police say they have never had a crime white like this.

Quite a mystery. By do believe he was brainwash the lack of a better terms. It was scary to go to the grocery store, Philip, your car with gas. It was actually the brilliant save. My father would be to leave the house. This was the most intense man Hunt in american law enforcement. History, listen to monster decent, her on the eye, hard radio, app Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast so there was another major discovery from that two thousand ten examination the body show. Pool of blood. At the back of the brain. This could have been from a fall after the fact fatal arrow shot or a knock and had there not sure- and I think the National Geographic article called it could have grass perhaps from these killers, though, who knows that its really fast

to me that the narrative surrounding this five thousand three hundred year old man can change so much and to deck, inviting that's the part of the story that that appeals to me, and it is too so interesting. It's really easy to find quoth that are retrospectively of note to, and you have examination after examination with new finds you findings turning up around every corner in two thousand five, for instance, James H, Dixon, closed algal and Linda L, Hamley wrote first scientific American quote an odd they would be to destructive that in turn out to be true and then in two thousand to in an article titled time to leave at sea alone. For the lancet, David, Sharp wrote quote, I cannot help wondering if there will then be a limit to what the Cheer Ali and ICE man can usefully tell ass. I mean that was back in two thousand to just a year after the era

discovery came out and it doesn't seem like there any limits, yeah, no, not at all in any really do find a record similar to that where big discoveries are made, people wonder if there's anything else that can possibly be revealed from this poor guy who's been poked in products. The need for some years and then another huge finding comes out so We rarely cover pre history topics on this pipe cast, but we do often discussed speculative subjects spring he'll Jack, the mad trappers Sisters Fox, for example, this topic is so much more science centre. The knows about almost just a speculative, because for for one thing it's hard to get much out of and even miraculously preserved, five thousand three hundred year old.

He also technology has advanced remarkably in the twenty years, since a tea was first found, so I mean just imagine if he had been discovered in the nineteenth century or even the nineteen, sixteen and eighteen. Seventy three would have been a different story that what makes aptly so important to researchers is not just the fact that his fellows are all dried up or that he is more than five thousand years old he's an accidental death and he died and buried. So he can give the day in the life of, sure of the copper age. Instead of another study of copper age burial he died wearing, presumably

clothes carrying everyday objects. Having just eaten his big. I bet lunch, presumably everyday fear. So, even if researchers don't figure out why exactly he did for a living or the exact ran down of how he died. He does offer a peek at coverage life that we just really wouldn't have had otherwise, for this whole thing started because news at these girlfriend. So what was heard deal well according to discovery news, a female skeleton was found during the construction of a kindergarten in ITALY. It was of your favorite vacation spot of the late Pope John Paul. The second incur Pope Benedict six so the site is near South Tyrol, just a few hundred miles away from where he was found in a skeleton is approximately the same ages at sea,

That's why she has a couple of nicknames, and one of the main ones is that these girlfriend there now that we ve talked about both nicely Iceland's girlfriend. I think that the good points, in addition to listen got a letter from Adam and we should first of all that it is a letter written on the back of a like little coloring chart for Saint Nicholas Day like a little dove. Always a poker in every atom, wrote first and know about the stationary. I live in the Czech Republic, which is an hour's Dr North of progress, the town he live, then I'm from or again but I've been teaching English too little children here for several years. The paper I used as an example in a lesson about colors cause. It is pretty colorful red orange.

A little black, but he also mention that Saint Nicholas Day is a big holiday in the Czech Republic. It's on distempers, thankfully dismiss did not too long ago. I consider doing it. I've thought on Saint Nicholas Furthest gears Christmas things. Tat can much requested. That is much more, then maybe some other time, but anyway, I'm off they send, has a pack of emperor playing cards, and that's why I decided to should read the listener. Meals and another austrian story or Austro. Hungarian empire story though I'm thinking maybe to bleed- and I will have our ground of crazy aid for some new after we finish recording, but we have one more little better information on at sea before we leave you guys, and he won't want to miss this curse. Let's get a mummy, sorry will be complete without occur, so,

So, according to a two thousand five BBC article, seven people connected to the Mummy have died. Some not far from here at sea was found, including how much time and who died in the winter storm and of course many many people have worked with me over the years and no study has been done on their rate of survival, as it was time for the king TAT curse. Maybe that's next yeah, maybe we'll stay tuned on this line and, as I think we mention on, maybe the Macbeth cursed after I hope that curse stout extend to pipe castors knock unwed depleted, like I didn't know what I was gonna anyway, on that note, vicious lack and have anything else. You want to hear about the ice man. You can email that history type ass. It has the birds, tat com or often twitter and missed in history, and we are faced.

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