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Rebecca Cox, attacks jackson, we talked a little bit about the answer. black and anti abolitionists backlash that struck philadelphia and other parts of the. U s in the early nineteenth century, we talked about this a bit more. In our episode on Lucretia Mott, Was that an event at pennsylvania hall when it was attacked by an anti abolitionist mob in eighteen, thirty, eight I'm going to bring out our episode on Mott today as saturday's classic. This originally came out on august 15th, two thousand and eighteen so enjoy. Welcome stuff. You missed in history class a production of I heart radio, hello and welcome to the podcast, I'm holly fry and I'm tracy v wilson. And today were actually recording in studio, an episode that we actually prepared for a live show at the women's rights,

national historical park as part of their convention days. Programming, as some it happens. Why sure recordings do not go according to plan, so we came you the original version of that as it happened live, but that means that those people in attendance sort of get. You know there Memories of that special thing that, unfortunately nobody else gets his fair in. So let that be a lesson to you. Come to life, If you listen to our road to the declaration of sentiments episode that we did at the end of twenty five team, a little If this is going to sound familiar, there's, not a whole lot of overlap. That episode was actually catalyzed by then chief technology officer of the united states, megan smith, reaching out to the I'm cast to raise awareness of the mist, women's rights document the declaration of sentiments, and we gave a brief version of lucretia mott life and a quick run of how she and Elizabeth Cady Stanton met at the world anti slavery convention today, show is going to focus on lucretia mott in much more detail.

but even so her life is so well documented and she was such an important public figure in her time. That really just hitting some of the highlights so, for example, in eighteen sixty four. She helped found Swarthmore college in pennsylvania as a co educational. Institution, but we're not even going to get into that, because we're focusing instead a lot more on her activism, and she was a whole lot of activist packed into a open youtube frame and while she advocate for peace. She was in her own words. No advocate of passivity, Lucretia Mott was born lucretia coffin on january, Third, seventeen. Ninety three on the island of nantucket and massachusetts, her father, thomas coffin, was a sea captain. Mother Anna folger was related to benjamin franklin, because thomas was often at sea. Anna with managing things at home, and she ran a small door with lucretius help as lucretia got older. Lucretia was their second child.

and they eventually had five children, the coffin family were quakers and the quaker religion. I believed slavery was evil and had a particularly progressive view of women's equality for the time, so it is not. surprising, that lucretia went on to campaign for women's rights, abolition and social reform when she was and her parents decided on a change for the whole family. Thomas left his job as a mariner and we move to Boston where he became a merchant all with the intent of creating a much more stable family life in addition to how he was away all the time as a sea captain that was also an incredibly dangerous job. Yeah there was always the Instead, he would not come back and they did I live with that risk anymore when she was thirteen lucre He began attending a quicker boarding school in poughkeepsie. New York called nine partner school along with one of her sick. Eliza lucretia.

Really well there so much so that she became an assistant teacher when she aged out of the available curriculum, Lucretia was then shortly thereafter promoted into a teaching position, and this that sort of in an in kind trade on her another one of her sisters could then attend the school and it was this time that, even though she was at a quicker school where equality was being todd Lucretia, a really harsh dose of reality later. She wrote of women in education quote. I learned school, that their education cost the same as that of men. they receive as teachers, but half the salary, whilst you that nine partners Lucretia made the acquaintance of a young teacher named James. Might he was the son of the school superintendent, the two of them grew close, and then they fell deeply in love and the conference moved once again in one thousand, eight hundred and nine this time to philadelphia

Lucretia and James Mott joined them there and james was invited by lucretius father thomas, to become a partner in his merchant business lucretia married sainsmart on April tenth, one thousand eight hundred and eleven. She was eighteen at the time he was five years older, who seems to have been a free good match. They had similar ideologies when it came to equality for women. They were both business. They had a passionate and devoted relationship which Lucretia referred to as a perfect love four years after lucretia and james were married, thomas coffin died. This was not only an emotional blow it, did a very real financial problem for Lucretia mother anna who was suddenly burdened with thomas's extensive debt and before James ma, due to his involvement in thomas's business and coffin made some pretty bad business decisions and he was thousands of dollars in debt when he died. Among other things,

He had learned money to people. He should not have, and he also had a lawsuit pending against him, increasing james and anna all work together to address this problem, they chipped away at the financial obligations that thomas had left behind Anna went back to returning to her former vocation of running a store. Lucretia worked as a teacher and James worked as a bookkeeper and the trees Oh really managed to make some very real progress on this problem, but just as they were getting their feet back under them. There was another tragedy: both Lucas and her third child. Two year old, thomas black, very ill with fever and lucretia recovered, but thomas did not, he died. and lucretia was naturally heartbroken. Despite her grief, so she returned to her teaching job, not long after the loss and that loss of her.

And made her even more devoted to her quick quaker faith in the late eighteen twenties, the society of friends, split into two factions, the orthodox group and the hicks site group, which was named for quaker abolitionist alive, Hix pix, it actually been one of the founding members of the nine partner school where Lucretia had been a student and a teacher by this time. Lucretia was a quaker minister, it was not a vocation as a quaker. She was not being paid for this work Yet one of the things I had read, one of the biography is suggested it when she realised that ministers and other religions got paid too. Chair. There sermons she was a little bit more too far, but that is not something that should be part of a financial transaction there were a number of issues that led to that split within the society of friends, which is another word for the quakers, those

Reasons were both spiritual and somewhere a little bit more mundane. They had to do with power struggles that were going on, but the primary reason that was cited for the fracture was the hicks. I focus on the inward light as the guiding of faith, whereas the orthodox group favored, call authority. Above all other influences, and this split began at the philadelphia yearly meeting and the motts along with a proxy? two thirds of their fellow quakers went with the hicks sites that it's a very pared down and extremely basic version of the schism which, of course, had a lot more nuanced than that, but in you shouldn't the moths. It had a very real impact. The hicks sites wanted to suffer any possible connections to the slave trade and, as a consequence, James shifted its textile business away from selling cotton cloth, which has made with Robert. areas that had come from slave labour may transition to selling wool. Instead, the moths and many excites emphasised the importance of so called for

goods and products, meaning that they had been produced or grown without the use of slave labor in the eighth. Thirties model was a member of the american anti slavery society founded by william lloyd garrison, and that in I her in eighteen, thirty three to found a women's group within the movement, the philadelphia, female anti slavery, society and their to be clear plenty of controversy around motts, outspoken nature in the abolitionist cause, while she It's been raised in a household and a culture that treated women as more or less equal, her in origin. Oration was not always well regarded in non quaker circles and some even within the society of friends, there were some members who were not entirely comfortable with her direct and impassioned It's an abolition, kind of hoped she might leave the group rather than continue to stir up controversy and there it's also, a very real danger in being a public vocal abolitionist. Lucretia trees

for a great deal of strength from her faith and when she spoke to groups about slavery. That strength really helped her to make her position clear and it helped her to sway people to her cause. People who heard her speak described her as being eloquent, calm and very persuasive and her use of lodge to condemn the practice of slavery. Coming up who were going to talk about a particularly frightening week for the abattoir

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inmate one eighteen, thirty eight lucretia and participated in a series of events at pennsylvania hall in her pennsylvania hall of philadelphia. That of was brand new. It had been designed by thomas Somerville, Stuart, a scots irish architect, living in philadelphia as a in place where abolitionists could engage in free discussion. And it's, though, was a really high profile event. The hall could hold three thousand attendees and in the first few days the halls you both black and white abolitionist sat in the audience less than ablishunists, william lloyd. Garrison made a note, however, that there were no black speakers on the stage which he claimed was the result of either prejudice or fear. I would point out that it could also have been related depression but the white organizers has not even considering that that would be a thing there could easily have been thoughtlessness was the mix as well, but there was definitely

As for fear, the opening of the hall had shut off anti abolitionist agitators. Sylvania was a free state. But the issues of slavery and equality were still topics of strife. Signs began up philadelphia, urgent to rise up against these abolitionists, and one read quote: where The convention for the avowed purpose of affecting the immediate abolition of slavery in the union is now in session in this city it be. It was all citizens who entertain a proper respect for the rights of property and the preservation of constitution of the united states to interfere forcibly if they must and the violation of these pledges heretofore held sacred. The result, The ongoing issue of women's equality in the mixed with all of this, some abolitionist about that. in meetings with men and women. Both black and white. All gathered together in the hall would seem inappropriate at one point during the wind,

the evening of the week's events mot addressed the assembled mixed crowd and said she was not speaking on behalf of the women's convention, but she hoped that the quote false notions of delicacy and propriety, would soon be a thing of the past. Yes, she really just wanted everybody to be able to come together and discuss these issues and not get wadded up on what they thought was proper or not and during some of the speeches in those first few days there were bricks thrown through the windows of the hall by anti abolitionist protesters. There are different bird that story. John green leaf, whittier wrote and of a buyer ethical sketch of liquid Am I right after she died? his version. He suggests that that was happening while she was speaking. I didn't find indications that that was the case anywhere else. Other versions of the story of this hall suggested I during other lectures, others indicate it happen after the fact we do not know exactly the timing, but there was

some scary stuff going on An angry mob had steadily grown in numbers over the course several days, and even as crowd surged and threatened to enter the building mot. Who was a very tiny woman? We said she was diminutive, but to be clear, shoe while five feet tall she made between ninety in a hundred pounds, and while she was speaking to her fellow abolitionists in the anti slavery convention of american women, who were me, at the time she urged them to remain true to the cause and to continue their work. I'll, all of this scary stuff was going on. Literally feet from them right outside the building. So when people describe We as a fierce abolitionist The phrase you will often see in relation to her. They are really not kidding as the nor leaving the danger to the black women that had attended as they walked through. This crowd was just obvious.

not in the other white women in the greek linked arms with them as a way to help them move through the angry protesters, while trying to also maintain their physical safety, they did still have to were the racist epithets that were being yelled at them as they adjourned, but they were kept physically safe. Yes, she was pretty clear, that she believed that these protesters were not going to have the gall to come after simple, in her case a tiny white woman, so was willing to put her body physically in the way to prevent black It isn't from being hurt and the next day threat of violence. Was so great that all of the scheduled events were canceled, the mob had grown to a reported fifteen thousand people Pennsylvania hall, described as one of the most commodious and splendid buildings in the city was burned

to the ground after the protesters broke in and lit a fire on the stage. The thing was like less than a week old. At this point right, yeah, that's like the fourth day was when it was burned down so there was ongoing violence over the next two days. The moths home was in danger as a target because of lucretius high profile and the abolition of movement. Their home was spared at the end, but the mob turned its iron toward black schools and churches the following month. The philadelphia female anti slavery society led by Lucretia Mott, hosted another anti slavery convention and mot once again reiterated the importance of their mission the world anti slavery convention in eighteen. Forty was a significant event in Lucretia moths life that event took place london, and when my arrived as a delegate, in clear that she was not going to be allowed to participate because she was a woman, no women were being admitted to the proceedings.

Mine was certainly not the only woman who had travelled to london with the intent of attending the world anti slavery convention. Ball of the There were told that they could not participate. Heated debate among the delegates arose over this issue in the women Eventually granted admission, but this was not exactly a win. They had in a special women's section at the back of the hall and they were not allowed to participate in any way they were how to observe and to observe only lloyd, garrison was so angry about this situation, as were other men that he withdrew it was a delegate and he opted to share observer only status with the women abolitionists. So he and several other men actually went back and sat in their section, but it was in that women's section,

lucretia Mott not met the woman who would become one of our greatest allies, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, who had made the trip to london as her honeymoon with her new husband, Henry brewster Stanton. I love that they did this on their honeymoon It is quite charming. Stanton made a description of Lucretia mott at this convention, and I wanted to include this because there is a photograph of lucretia mott. That is probably the most commonly seen in the modern era, and it is a photograph. and when she was older and she looks a little dour and I think that people have in their heads that she must have been a very sour woman. But in fact was, by all accounts, really lovely. She was described as a very vivacious youth. but I wanted to read stanton's description of her during the convention quote She was then in her prime small in stature slightly. To the large head high square forehead remarkably fine face regular feature. First dark, hair and eyes. She was

gentle and refined in her manners and she conversed with earnestness and ease misery aiding over their anger, but how women abolitionists for being treated at the convention might and stand decided that when they were both back in the united states, they should arrange a women's rights convention was five years in the making, but they were true to their words. Why fourteenth eighteen? Forty eight, the following announcement ran in the seneca county courier under the head find and women's rights convention a convince. To discuss the social, civil and religious condition and rights of woman will beheld in the wesleyan chapel at seneca falls new york on Wednesday. thursday, the nineteenth and twentieth of July, current commencing at ten clock a dot m. During the day, the meeting will be exclusively for women, which all are earnestly invited to attend the black generally, are invited to be present on the second day when lucretia, mot of philadelphia and others.

both ladies and gentlemen, will address the convention. Of course, famously the declaration of sentiments was signed at this convention. That's the document that was modeled after the declaration of independence, outlined eighteen injuries to women and was accompanied by eleven resolutions. Mot was one of the writers of this document, the most cod Firstly, of the eleven resolutions was getting women the right to vote. This is sometimes site, as the moment when the- u s suffrage movement was born was a quick note. Slash room, under the topic of the show we did in seneca falls last year was frederick douglass and he also attended the seneca falls convention and was also one of the signers of the declaration of sentiments but perhaps surprisingly, Lucretia mott was one of the people who was not a supporter of the revolution for the right to vote for women. She felt it All it takes was inherently really flawed and immoral system in part due to its connection,

with slavery, so she thought women really did not need to dirty them else with that grossness by he did sign the declaration of sentiments, and she did also managed to reconcile her concerns in a speech that was it are published by mont as discourse on woman. She said the following: it is with reluctance that I make the demand for the political rights of women, because this claim is so distasteful to the age woman shrinks and the present state of society from taking any interest in politics who knows, but that if women acted her part and governmental affairs, there might be an entire change and the turmoil of political life. It becomes man to speak modestly of his ability to act without her. If woman's judge were exercised. Why might she not aid and making the laws by which she has governed? Far be it from me to encourage women to vote or to take an active part in politics in the present state of our government, her right to the elective fran,

Size, however, is the same and should be yielded to her. Whether she exercises that right or not and we're going to talk next about.

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when the fugitive slave act of eighteen fifty was past, lucretia and james. My protest vehemently against it that acts has come. with some regularity on the show, but just for a reminder. It required that enslaved people who ran away to non slave states had to be captured, turn to their therein slavers and that aiding a person who had escaped enslavement was a crime. The fugitive slave act caused a lot. Strife even within the abolitionist movement. For one thing, there was the debates between following the law and following the principles of equality, they even non abolitionist. Pennsylvanians were angry that this act took precedence over the states, personal liberty, laws and instances where people who had been enslaved were re taken by force, pacifist abolition,

grappled with their own principles of non violence, as they came into conflict with their desire to protect, formerly enslaved people and one Things that might continue to do during this time was to continue to use her physical presence for the abolitionist cause It was, I said that as a white woman, she would likely be treated more respectfully or at least more gently than a white, an or a person of color making the kinds of statements that she made in the instant she rode in a carriage with a woman named Jane Johnson who, in the course of fleeing enslavement, actually appeared Testifying in court that the abolition is who had helped her had not kidnapped her, but she had gone of her own volition did that, knowing that the marshals were going to pursue her afterwards. So when she finished testimony she and might meet a hasty exit from the court, and my hair, Jane Johnson slip away from the authorities. With a bit of misdirection. They wrote in a carriage around the streets. They ended up at the front. The home they both got out, went

through the house, Jane left out the back door and picked up another carriage there with a little meal that lucretia had handed her and then she took off in that other carriage, unfortunately, was not apprehended, while lucretia I, like I don't know what you're talking about when the marshals got to that house. Another instance when a black man named Daniel Webster was captured in harrisburg, pennsylvania and accused. being a runaway from a virginia slave plantation. That was a case of mistaken identity, lucretia mott sat as near as she could to the defendants throughout his court case. She would sit there or sewing, but always simply being a presence keenly appearance that an abolitionist was watching and There was eventually declared a free man when the civil. Or began. It was already a difficult time for the march they weren't young. By this point, both of them were in failing health James was losing his vision and Lucretia would read to him, but she was having dizzy, spells and frequent digestive issues and on top of

Even though this battle over slavery was obviously important and abolition had been a driving force in moths license, she was a young girl. Her pacifism made this entire war extremely upsetting. She We had hoped that they could in over the hearts and minds of people through talking about the issue. In fact, she once wrote quote cause of peace has had a share of my efforts. Leading to the ultra non resistance ground that no christian can consistently uphold and actually engage in and support a government based on the sword after the emancipation proclamation, philadelphia, female anti slavery. Society works to help formerly enslaved people transition into freedom. We did an episode on the civil war contraband camps. Two years ago we talked about the union's gap in there.

Plans when it came to actually helping newly free men and women make new lives. Lucretius group attempted to help fill that gap by raising funds and helping to provide basic needs like clothing and also offering educate. no assistance, but as the war came to a close lucretius forty year old daughter, Elizabeth moved back home. This was not a jew basic haven. Elizabeth was terminally ill. She was somewhat estranged from her husband and the mob, said that point had already lost two grandchildren, including Elizabeth son, Henry just before Elizabeth became ill and so while Lucretia continued to stay informed about current events and keeping and what was going on with the war. Pretensions were really split between her son going family and the struggling nation after the war, the issues of black suffrage and women's suffrage became a subject of debate

for many abolitionists and women's rights advocates, while some women's rights advocates, including elizabeth katy stem thought that the two causes should be promoted to get they're. My was concerned early on that things were still really precarious. She thought that they might need to see one cause through to the end and then focus on the other. Eighteen, sixty six, the american equal rights association formed with the goal of quote universal suffrage. Lucretia Mott was its first president and took that position somewhat tentatively, based largely on her loyalty to Elizabeth Cady Stanton, who had asked her to take that role and ultimately found this job really trying and unfulfilling, because she spent most the time trying to mediate the ongoing arguments among the members about where their focus should lie. They really were not getting into any actual activism and when- stanton and susan b anthony sought backing from democrat entrepreneur, george francis train, that became last straw for mot, because trains

imported women's suffrage, but he was a racist. At the news of this alliance, a horrified william, lloyd, garrison, wrote to sousa, be anthony, begging, her not a tie up her cause with train. He wrote quote the colored people in their advocates have not a more abusive assailant than this same train. He is as destitute of prince pull as he is of sense. He may be of use and drawing an audience, but so but a kangaroo, a gorilla or a hippopotamus, William blake, harrison ended this letter by telling Anthony he thought she was just infatuated with train, could be a whole other. Am, I kind of want to do one on train because he is sort of gross and horrifying, but also very fascinating, so mots colleagues, point wanted to prioritize women's suffrage over black suffrage and age. The help of this white supremacist to do so and not, as a consequence, officially withdrew

her office in their organization in may of eighteen sixty eight. She also demanded that the entire group be disbanded leading up her resignation. There were more immediate concerns and lucretia life in january. James, who was seventy nine got pneumonia and died suddenly, while he was, or by the public as a figure of great regard, Lucretia felt alone in the world. Without him, she refused to sleep in the bedroom shared and instead moved into a smaller room in the house. It they had moved to outside of the city. She wrote letters to relatives about her buried, deep sense of law, boston. She stopped going to meetings of the various organizations that she continued to be a part of not returning to them. For several months. Eventually, though, she did return and she became president of the philadelphia female anti slavery society which continued, even though slavery was legally abolished. They had shifted towards sing on securing the vote for freedmen, and while the 14th amendment was passed by congress, the group to see

the lack of specificity in its language. While define citizenship in a broad sense. It didn't specifically grant political rights to black citizens they called out as being a clearly racist move, as it indicated that quote the country and the government belong to the white man. We spoke last year about the opposition that Elizabeth Katy Stanton had to the fifteenth amendment, which stated quote the right of citizens. of the united states to vote, shall not be denied or abridged by the united states or by any state on account of race, color or previous condition of servitude. It did not grant women The right to vote in reaction stand made some really unfortunate and frankly, racist remarks about it might not share these views, and she had expressed regret that these two issues of women's suffrage and black suffrage ever been joined together and activist groups

but Lucretia Mott still really loved, both Elizabeth Cady Stanton and susan b anthony despite their missteps, I been through a lot together, and so she was really saddened as she watched the group, she had left the american we'll rights association suffer from I'm going in fighting which eventually led to fractures and rival women's suffrage groups forming. We ve talked about that whole process and other episodes of the show. In the fall of eighteen. Eighty, ten years after 15Th amendment was passed. Lucretia Mott, eight hundred eighty seven developed pneumonia. She always a very small woman and she lost weight that she just didn't have to lose. Grew very frail and she died on november eleventh of that year, but nice coda in nineteen twenty three. When the equal rights amendment was first introduced by Alice Paul in seneca falls during the set fifth anniversary of the women's rights convention. Paul called it the lucre chaumont amendment. Once again, we want to thank the national

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