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SYMHC Classics: The Historical Roots of Holiday Treats

2020-12-05 | 🔗

This is a holiday throwback to a 2017 episodes. Tasty treats associated with winter holidays have some slightly hazy origins, because the evidence of their histories was eaten.

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re coming up this week, so we thought we would get a head start on that theme with a classic episode that also fits with the winter holiday season at the historical roots of holiday, treats which originally came out on December thirteenth. Twenty seven and it raises the origins of a few of our wintertime and Christmas time. Favorite enjoy welcome. You missed in history class, a production of I radio Allow me to welcome the pay gap and I'm Tracy bewildering Tracy gap,
four Delicious holidays max, I now for some people to celebrate Christmas, another winter holidays, the snacks are the best thing about the season. I think Tracy and I have told the ridiculous story of us being too of the only people in the office during Christmas holidays. One year we have been making small cars with chocolate, loose, peeps and permit bark and running around like we were wild animals. It was amazing because The sugar rush was more than we can in any way superfine, and even if you like, don't celebrate the rule just holidays or even like them or cultural, like the people, are more culturally christian and celebrate Chris Christmas anymore, secular way. Like you, don't do any a lot of who's the always time of the year that you really find them: yeah, yummy, snacks or yummy snacks. But many of these nets have histories. They go back hundreds of years, but because of the nature of the subject, things get really can view
being in a hurry, because after all, all of the historical evidence is pretty much eaten and so there's a lie. Parker foregoing. So in the interest of examining the stories behind some of the most ingested holiday, consumables, we're going to sort through that Apocrypha and the known fact, and will probably all be craving something sweet and delicious by the end expectations management right out of the gate. We already talked about eggnog and its origins of it in our eggnog riot episode. So we're not going to talk about eggnog. Today we do have another drink which is wassel and will also cover candy canes and Your bread, I'm excited, but a lot of things are delicious, so Candy Keynes, bright and cheerful sticks of peppermint goodness, but no one. we most exactly where they came from. There are a lot of unsubstantiated stories about the origins, though, and
Three of them are the ones that are the most commonly repeated. So one turn of the story goes that candy canes were originally invented in Germany, in the one thousand six hundred, and in this apocryphal version, a choirmaster at a cathedral invented candy canes as a way to keep friend, who are normally a little bit fidgety and sometimes noisy, occupied and quiet in church, and he had the candy sticks made by a confectioner with a crook at the tops of that they echoed the shape of a shepherd staff, making the idea of candy in church. More acceptable to parents, sometimes this story is told, along with color symbolism, that the choir master specifically chose. Why sticks of candy to represent purity and crazed, but there is absolutely no record of such a thing and no one seems to know who this choir man,
there was, even though there are an awful lot of details about his thought process. So again it's a lovely story, but unsubstantiated I'll say I would have much preferred candy as a way to keep quiet and church What I actually had, which was doodling on the church bulletin. The church bulletins are generally not This is now shade to any church bullet the debts, but that that now, but I would drawn So another origin story, attributes the invention of the cane came to a particularly devout confectioner and the United States, specifically in Vienna, who carefully designed the king, a cane as an expression of the story of Christ and this similarly sites. The white of the candy Kane is a symbol of purity and the red Stripes. A symbolic the blood of Christ, the crucifixion and the cane shape. According to this version, is actually the letter J for Jesus again. There's no evidence for this story.
That's the moors like the one that I heard the most growing up. Although I heard the combination of the colors being this one and then the cook is the shepherds yeah, it's one of those things like if people like to think of them. That way, that's great but like there's not really any historical backing for that being how and why they were invented. A third story is less about the invention of the peppermint treat and is more about the introduction of it to the? U S and this tale features a german immigrant named August M Guard and, according to the Legend M Guard, put up the Christmas tree, the first in Ohio when he decorated his in eighteen, forty seven. and it said that in guards tree had paper, ornaments and Candy Keynes on it, at least, that is how some versions of the story go. There are other accounts that say that it was actually a type of decorated, bavarian, cookie that was used to grace the tree, along with the paper ornaments as well as nuts that were painted gold imgur,
does remain associated with one of the earliest Christmas trees. In the? U S, although I think he is no longer referenced as the first Christmas tree in the U S, but the key and became aspect of the story in terms of him, bringing it to the United States and decorating with it, is again not substantiated in any way. As for the striped peppermint sticks themselves. There clearly described in eighteen, forty four book, the complete confectioner pastry cook and Baker by owner Parkinson S, section of the texts, titled clove, gender or peppermint candy. The process of making striped candy is described this way for clove the mixture, whilst boiling as coloured with token eel ginger with saffron. But the peppermint must be kept perfectly white except the stripes, which has done by cutting off as many pieces from the bulk, as you have colors, which should be in powder put a sufficiency and each piece to give the desired tent
keep them warm when the remaining portion of the sugar is pulled, lay them over the surface and narrow stripes double the role together and the face each way will be alike, pull them out into long sticks and twist them make them round by rolling them under the hand, or they may be cut into small pieces with a pair of shares or scissors. Yes, so in terms of that- is more a matter of put in stripes to make them colorful and festive not so much with any kind of meaning and while we may not be able to trace the invention of candy Jaynes back to its origin point, we do know a bit more about the mass production of Candy Keynes and where that started, Bob's candies, founded by a man named by Mccormick in Albany, Georgia, was the first confectionery company to start mass producing candy gains which they did in the early nineties, twenties, incidentally, Bob's candies was also the first to offer cellophane wrapped candy gains Tracy. I don't know about you, but I accidentally adjusted a lot of self.
It is a child does. I cannot always peel it off the candy. Initially, the hooks that were being added to the Keynes were done by hand before the candy cooled and hardened, but this method had a high rate of waste because more than one fifth of the candy Keynes broke and consequently cannot be old Bob Mccormick's brother in law, a priest by the name of Grigory hurting Keller, invented a machine to automate the hook shaping process which had a much lower rate of candy breakage, the killer machine not to be confused with the one, a doctor you was further refined by two Bob's candies employees named Dick Driscoll and Jimmy Sprat Lange, and then, after that, almost all the candy games produced per person.
this novel invention, which was really the start of the modern candy cane in the street, one Keller, his fifteen minutes of fame even appeared on a game, show what's my line, so contestants could guess his profession yeah. I would imagine that was a stumper most priests do not also invent machinery for the confectionery, Troy There is a great picture of him that I found on line and he's in his full, like you know, priest collar and everything standing next to this machine, and it's very charming. Next up, we are going to talk about a winter beverage. That's been having a bit of a resurgence in popularity in recent years and that, as was all but first we're gonna, take a quick break forward from one of our fantastic sponsors You know, friends, things are a little bit different this year. people are shipping a lot of things to having a lot. Things delivered, and that is really really gonna. Ramp up come holiday season yeah getting a heads
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I am not going to sing to you because no one needs to be subjected to that. You might have heard it with the reference to watch substituted out with another term. So it's the one that goes here. come a waffling among believe so green. Here we come a wandering so fair to be seen. Levin joy come to you and to you, you waffle to, God bless you and send you a happy new year. So sometimes a waffling is swept out for a caring and but I have to you your Wasil, its ass. Some, along lines of plaid Christmas or a merry Christmas yeah. The really popular version in the United States that was recorded by Perry. Como, definitely subs out was calling for a curling and blood Christmas and there have been other recordings as well. That do the same, I'm not sure if that was because they didn't want any reference to alcohol or if it was because they thought people might not know what was selling was, but in any case it gets up now. But you know the song
If you don't think you do, it always makes me think of the version of little women starring well known writer, one of the earliest mentions of Wasil as a form of toasting and well wishing is found in the old English Epic Beowulf, most likely pen somewhat some time between the eighth and tenth century. Its exact date is. Known, and the word is evolved from the greeting vast Heil in old nurse, and its old english counterpart was how both of which convey a wish to someone for their good health or good fortune. But aside from a fairly clear connection, to root words, the path of the Wasil tradition through time is a very winding when, with many branches according to Robert Doors, writing for the Colonial Williamsburg Journal, it was England, Danish,
We can community that started using it as a toast, but it caught on so quickly throughout the country that, by the time, William, the Duke of Normandy brought the Norman French Army to the battle of Hastings in one thousand and sixty six seven episode about an archive. The invaders believed that it was an english custom So even though it probably did not originate with natives of England, they adopted it so quickly that its now very much associated with England and one of the more specific origin stories of the Wasil toast is the tale of Vortigern and Rowena Vortigern a fifth century british king was allegedly struck with ruin his beauty and when she approached him and uttered the greeting was how he, after conferring with an interpreter, answered drink.
and then the two share to drink of spiced wine, which would have been a luxury item, and while this story is unverifiable- and it has taken on many variations throughout time, including versions that happened later, where they were sharing a cup with a whole group of people- and there is also a play which was allegedly written by Shakespeare but was eventually revealed as a forgery. This exchange of greetings continues. modern time all there. Now it is not links to romance, as the original story was that merely to revelry in merriment, like as a call in response to people to start sort of a drinking party by the 13th century. This idea of a communal drinking vessel filled filled with Wassell, had become popular. I was a bowl of the drink with she would dip.
Goods in cedar like soak up the wasel, and this is allegedly where the use of the word toast comes from to mean a greeting before a group drinks together, because pieces of toast were sometimes dipped or floated in the waffle, bowl, so wet alcoholic toast just But men Albert the walls of all became part of a roving street party practice in the fifteen hundred, so revellers also call moi sailors would visit homes sorted similar to the way the carers might offering drinks and well wishes and some location booths. Waffling was part of a pagan winter. Solstice festival saturnalia, dress, in the skies or in burning social roles. As part of this practice, and it became a time when the wealthy would share their bouncy with people who have less financial fortune.
although there were also accounts, the suggested the sharing had been demanded by drunken mobs, rather than being offered magnanimously. Yes, so some you know, versions of this word case were people would pass. This was a ball around. Maybe get a little bit of liquid courage, then go to the rich guys house and demand that the he share his wealth with them, or it was you know, feudal lords, with them kind of have the people under them come to their house and go hey You should share with us that is a very, very watered down version of it. The pagan wash all tradition was also part of farming life in Britain, farmers with drink to the health of their animals and their orchards, and they would leave Wasil soaked, bread and trees or just poor the wasil directly onto tree trunks, and this could also involve groups of farmers and their families moving from one farm to another throughout the course of an evening to wish prosperity on the,
ops of everyone in the community. So obviously, all of these various adoration of la selling also evolved to coincide with the different beliefs and celebrations in different areas. While there were paying and routes to some of the farm practices which included the desire to ward off bad spirits from orchards as part of christian holidays. Waffling became part of twelve night. Festivities in more relaxed definitions of waffling. The word has been used in a modern way to refer to almost any instance of in winter, we're neighbors each other and bring some sort of wasil or other libation to enjoy together. Like I said, it's got very soft edges of at the edge of this word
All of this drinking, your Emma holidays, we should point out, was not always looked upon as good cheer, so in both England and the north american colonies, where the waffling tradition had moved along with the colonists. Seventeenth century puritan, church leaders were not enthused with the practice of drinking to celebrate, christian holiday in the cross over was saturnalia on the calendar further wrangled them. There were in fact attempts to banish Wasil and was selling and many other Christmas activities completely, while the practice and the beverage survived, and they were romanticized in nineteenth century literature as pie the traditional English Christmas celebration, carrying a giant bowl of punch door to door is maybe a little too cumbersome to remain a popular practice. Yet there are still places where people do it in, and villages and towns where it is a big part of a tradition. But it's really mine this common, as it would have been several,
two years ago- and we mentioned earlier that if the story of Rowena inverted earn were true, the wine spiced with ingredients that would have been imported would have been highly valuable, but while that drink was merely present according to the law, at the moment when the idea was sling was born and would not have been called Wasil itself, there are plenty of other drinks that have been called Wasil through the ages, so some were made with more affordable, spiced ale, rather than wine. Some replicated that more expensive wine with spices. Some have been made by whipping dear or l into a froth and then dropping roasted crab apples into the foam. There are a lot of versions and then, of course, considering the orchard focus traditions. waffling and more rural areas. It's really no surprise that most modern Wasil recipes are really apple centric. If you search online
You'll find that most start with apple cider and then add some combo of other fruit juices, including orange pineapple uneven cranberry, the whole cider fruit juice mixture is cooked, with spices like nutmeg, cloves, allspice and ginger, and some include eggs. The drink serve hot, often with a fruit, garnish or a piece of fruit stewed in the beverage as it simmered and an alcoholic wassail you can start with cider and spices combined with sherry brandy, rum mould, wine and so on? I feel like I should confess that this is not my thing. It's fine, not at all. I feel like a bad celebrant, but am please don't hand me hot sugar, water that well, I am fond of like a hot mauled, cider,
with like lots of cinnamon and and what I am not find fond of. The idea of community drinking from the same bowl, maybe strangers true, that's another thing that I didn't mention in in these notes that there is also like hygiene element that may have made this lose a little bit of favor over the years. Yet, to me I mean I haven't where it was somewhere along. The line ingrained in me that apple cider served warm, is very dangerous as a potential haven of bacteria, and my brain cannot get past that possibility, even if someone shows me all of the ways they have maintained. Safety, food standards throughout prep and serving I'm still like. All I see is ardor, yellow
as the person who worked in food safety for part of my career like it, is true that that, like fresh pressed apple fighters and stuff, if they're not pasteurized, can be dangerous. My bad enough, around this. Often the the apple cider would be way too hot. To put it in your mouth, when you put it into the cup like you needed, to give it a little time so, had there been anything in it, it was dead. Yeah, yeah, I'm more of an eggnog the mass Wasil drinker, but I to anyone who likes their waffle. I do love ignored. Yeah me too.
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is truly international and it is not tied in its origins to any holiday. Gingerbread has been popular in some form or another will talk about its many forms for hundreds of years. There is even a reference to it in Shakespeare's, loves labors lost because it was so wildly popular already by the sixteenth century. The early afternoon, existence of gingerbread as all the way back in ancient Greece around twenty four hundred Bc Ie or it was used and ceremonies. Ancient Egyptians. Also you some form of baked ginger spice food and ritual customs. The earliest known instance, of an asian baked good cook with ginger, is from China. in the tenth century, yeah asian countries, reusing ginger in all kinds of other ways, but the scientifically to baked goods and we know, did you read- was in Europe by the eleventh century, possibly almost entirely likely brought back from the crusades.
for the remainder of the medieval period? Gingerbread popularity grew and spread throughout Europe, and it actually became a stable at festivals but through this early period, while words that acquainted roughly two gingerbread were being used in various languages, it did not really refer to what we call gingerbread today and there really was not a consistent meaning for it at all. Then so sometimes it would simply be referred to preserve ginger that was edible earlier versions of gingerbread Baked item in Europe included ginger, of course, but also ground almonds, stale bread, crumbs rosewater, and sugar, and then this made a paste that could be pressed into moulds before baking, and the dense mixture retained the shape of those moulds really well and as gingerbread populated, blue, so did the variety of shapes than it was baked in, and the level of detail that was used in the moulds also got a lot more intense.
and it wasn't long before, animals and flora were crafted from gingerbread soon. This baked treat became await a mark current events and theme, the gingerbread two specific celebrations by the fifteenth century there various translations of the word gingerbread all started to refer to some sort of ginger cake with very degrees of denseness along the spectrum between spongy cake and hard cookie. Even today, gingerbread can refer to a cake or a cookie and recipes really very pretty greatly. You ve probably had thin crisp, ginger cookies, thick, ready to ease and everything in between with bakers, experimenting and regional ingredient differences that have led to a huge wealth of different kinds of gingerbread and over time. Of course, the recipe shifted by the sixteenth century flower was used instead of bread, crumbs and eggs and other sweet spices,
incorporated- and it was actually during the sixteenth century, that the first gingerbread man was allegedly baked. So, according to accounts, Queen Elizabeth, the first had miniature gingerbread replicas of prominent guests bait, and so, when they arrived at court to visitors were presented with their tiny, tasty dapple gainers am I treat me out, although bit they were old, apparently delighted, ok get us! There was a cute little thing, not something spooky, I'm just imagining like a very meticulous uncanny valley, kind of gingerbread representation. Myself, given something to eat. That might be weird. So to read it also become a token of luck with sometimes given two nights by Ladys wishing them well and tournaments. Hard gingerbread was also crumbled and use it as a topic on other foods. Not for luck, but to hide the scent of items that have maybe
asked their freshness ginger to the rescue again. Yet there were allegedly meet that was may be starting to turn would sometimes be treated in this way to cover it smell an additional gingerbread lower started to crop up. So some believe that if a maiden eight gingerbread man intended to represent a husband that they would put sort of cosmic forces of luck in motion to bring her a mayor, The answer is also well known as the stomach settlers. So it's not surprising that by the fifteen hundred gingerbread was also being tested for its ability to sue your tummy Henry. The eighth is said to have hoped that ginger baked goods would stave off illnesses. I mean I have to wonder if that's just a case of lake, this is delicious its medicinal- I don't know, I think, there's there is some definite suggest
that suing candy ginger can help. If you have motion sickness over sure, I'm literally meaning Henry. They ain't going gingerbread cures officer, yeah, yeah gingerbread became so beloved in England that entire fares pop up just to sell it it, so it had been sort of a food that was served at other fears and festivals, but eventually there were literal, gingerbread, festivals and then gingerbread morsels that were served at these events got the nicknames pharynx For the wealthy gingerbread? Was even decorated with gold leaf and the idea of gingerbread became associated with finally detailed design and luxury, yet even today, sometimes
you will hear of houses being built with gingerbread style details, and usually that means very sort of meticulous slightly the you know, I want to say fussy and that can have a negative connotation, but that's not my intention to the lot of you. No kind of ornate work on them that is still used as a reference in the. U S. Gingerbread is a tradition as old as the colonies themselves. George Washington's mothers, gingerbread recipe, is still shared and baked our previous guess that was on the podcast cast an burn included it in her, both american cakes and after the colonies gained independence from Great Britain, gingerbread baked into the shape of an eagle, actually became popular.
and some american politicians over the years even took gingerbread on the road to share with perspective voters in an effort to gain favour. Gingerbread, cookies and german traditions took on a role that was similar to that of conversation, hearts traded in the. U S are on Valentine's day, lab cookin, as these cookies are caught up. Often heart shaped with little sweet nothing's Thou messages written M M in icing in cities throughout Germany, as well as Poland, Russia, Hungary, the Czech Republic in France, Gingerbread became so Rob, and so vital to regional culture that gingerbread guilds were established and in some european cities, antique gingerbread moulds are still on display in music. And they will occasionally also press like beeswax into them, to make limited edition. Ornaments that are super duper popular Germany
is also the home of the first gingerbread house, often said to have been inspired by the candy house in the Grimm's fairy tale, Hansel and Gretel. That story was originally published in one thousand, eight hundred and twelve as part of the book Grimm's fairy Grimm's fairy tales and there it may also have been gingerbread houses even as far back as the sixteenth century about the brothers Grimm's writing made the cookie domiciles more popular yeah. They really exploded in terms of their popularity after that came out. So from Germany, the tradition of creating feats of confectionery architecture spread although it never really caught on in Europe, sort of the the widespread way than it did in the United States were gingerbread. Houses are really popular now today, gingerbread Thousands are so popular that there's ongoing international competition to build massive ones that are as large as real houses. The current record
water is a house built in twenty thirteen and Brian Texas by a group called traditions club and in that house, is sixty by forty two feet, which is eighteen point three by twelve point, eight metres had more than two thousand square feet of interior space. Visitors can pay to have a visit with Santa Claus at the House and with all the proceeds going for the new traumas, enter at Saint Joseph Hospital TAT is a lot of gingerbread. It's a whole lot of gingerbread on a much smaller scale. Prior podcast subject. The Grove park in has a gingerbread house competition every year, but their little ones, little incredibly ornate ones. Yeah the we have talked about despicable times, Disney's hot imagines. If any of our guests are in Disney whirled around the holidays, one of the coolest things you can do is spend a day not going into any of the parks and Disneyworld
But going from hotel the hotel, because they all have their own special gingerbread house display, and some of them are amazing, and I love like the Polynesian usually has liquor really cute little hawaiian style, one that is sort of goofy and sweet. But if you in an I'm at Disney Ling end during the holidays, and you go see the haunted mansion holiday or they do the nightmare for Christmas overlay. Usually, in the ball room, there is like an astonishing feat of your bread physics going on, and it just smells amazing in there and its really lovely bet who doesn't love gingerbread gear is so good up. I would may I think we should start mean gingerbread year round, and I also, if you have not had a gingerbread cake versus the cookies I highly reckon
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