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And we really covered most of his early career in our first episode. Sort of the farm boy starts tinkering with engines, machines and that coming up with the model t and we even sort of went over. Why them He was such a revolutionary car. Yet lips were written. Where are you know we ve gone past? The point worries bees. Then it needs successful. At this point react what he does without success at another story, because I can it goes off the deepen yeah, where we left off, for it was ripping apart a prototype car his own hand, exactly. I hear he had decided that the prototype within the engineers and develop without his knowledge, sort of an upgrade of the model, t exactly and greater step up and multi, he was heavenly part of that and I ended in a dramatic fashion. He literally ripped the model apart piece by piece with his bare hands

it still metal. If this was a movie, what I've just freeze framed unfired, ripping apart the car exec in this absurd we're gonna really wrong, that and and go to the stranger side, afford to take hard left turn here into some of the other. More eccentric behave, weird territory exactly, and I think that story really epitomizes that the obsessive control that forward on his company in obeying, fell against upgrades so it's his engineers doing, some out him that he would physically ripped apart a car but that control really does extend to other aspects of its business and one of those aspects with materials in this sense and away because his his assembly line was so high functioning the five times he would run out of a material because his suppliers couldn't keep up

They had a shortage, then that we're gonna slow him down. Sure, though his first way to deal with that was to stockpile things like you know, we're talking about. ST things like that that he was not actively making just stock pilot and if their production at least till have it, but he said to think well, I'm through that's why don't I control all of these policies? Romish. Also he bought a railroad. He bought coal mines, he bought acres of timberlands glass works, extreme example of this is, of course, for Latvia, which I know you love Katy and I have done and apathy on it. For those of you who, don't listen to that episode. He creates his own. A model village afford type for it in the end, in the middle of the Amazon. Rainforest in to control over production. It doesn't play out that way, but just the eye yeah that be the preferable fully

that places huge. It's five thousand square miles as the size of Connecticut that he purchase. That he purchased, and if you look at the map I mean you could do just a quick Google search and type in for land. You get it get a map and it points to the middle of nowhere in and results, the guy way down there in the middle of Brazil. I think this Even if you get to the nearest provincial town is still an eighteen our boat ride to get to for landing and the crazy. Maybe I can see the greatest cause, this evening's crazy about it This is a good idea in in general, but it just never no. He never visited. You never visited the place, he's never been, and that was pretty bad for morality. I would bet of wood because the people there are expecting for the show up and run this place ranks of their thinking that you know they're gonna, be among you know the chairs.

And for them to work with the american elite, rail and, as other there at this plant, that since just an idle plant at night or village in and people live there in people live there now, which is crazy. You can You can go there and visit and the people. Apparently For some reason, I still think that there is a possibility, may be forward. Will Ford will fire up thing up again? simply going to produce. At some point in history, even though farm driver in I think all except in Asia has proved pretty and paused in his place was abandoned in eighteen, forty five, there was visually liking on just were done with it for a kind of new washstand loathing so stream example of trying to control material. Anyone or a small example before we go on because he bought up smaller in Michigan to do so thing with wood, because he was producing outwood station wagons and he was using somewhere on the order of like, and it was too

three million board feat of Lumber every year. Something like that is an enormous amount would, without one minute supply Why did you not with the forests of Michigan and the same thing will happen for landing. They built this. This great compound in OZ is like how many city so standing in some ways and then just idle We should give some examples of this working though this idea of buying up related industries and to make them work for you one example I found when their river Rouge plan opened in eighteen, twenty seven or that had been taken from his mind and shipped down would enter one of would enter the plan and then come out as the car. Only twenty hours later in a power coming from coal. That was, from his mind, everything coming from afford owned property and turning into a car such a short of I'd. Like you to clarify something. I said that this is a good idea. When I mention for lady, I meant something like that.

Self sustained company, the middlemen, exactly I mean the house. Would you say that that's a tremendous savings for him and in the long run, but when you were vast millions and millions of dollars into the jungle. Brazil and never go there and its never used, that's wasteful. Think about your own railroad, another two by the jungle property like mine on railway perfectly sane radio, in over a guy like Floyd yeah. I guess so that those toys read through control, though, really extends beyond material is over we're. Just hang about materials. You can understand a cereal, let in an industrial ass like for wanting to control his materials, it's a little less thievery Somebody tragedy that with people in the region under the weird area here we are not already there so here we are nineteen fourteen nineteen fifteen somewhere in their afford, offer the five dollar workday and this

I'll plays into the somehow I'll tell you a second the five dollar working and that just blows people they can't imagine making five dollars a day out of production. Job like this, it's twice as much weight he I'll be expected to make yet other autumn automobile manufacturers, a pain, half that price and hey. There is often that much and it's only in our work to instead of nine hours instead of a nine, our David, it's, but it is initially its offered at six days you workin eight eight hours. Six days a week, which was then cut back to five days weeks or forty hour week, but. We regard that it drew people like you couldn't believe I mean people came from all over, while probably the world, but at least the United States there flocking to Ford. This five dollar live opportunity may five hours a day now, for it a different way. He said

obvious five dollars a day and expect this much work out of you and that's fine, but it also gave him or what he thought Kenneth it broke down the boundaries He thought it was such a generous salary that it gave him the right to control non working aspects of his employees, but Y know please it's almost like, purchasing the people it is it is it s kind of like that, it's more like indentured servitude, and this is that this is really and so he he forms now does the name is funny the Ford, sociology department, little disturbing, yet associated apartment. Now the socio Department originally head about thirty investigators, and these instigators to gaiters. Now, remember you make five hours days. You got expect this raid cordon afford they would your house, and they would take notes on every aspect of your daily life, everything your whole family, not just you.

Is the people you live with. What you do where you live, how you conduct your business home? What you know Anything and everything about your personal life was exposed to have an that that's one thing you could maybe expect our aid the guy's coming over tonight. Let's clean up the house make sure we're on our best behaviour. People are gonna, be at work too There were gonna, be in format, spies all working for Ford, so if he were maybe to comply, the level that twenty or coworkers, maybe if you took a break for a minute from the assembly line, you can expect all of that information to get back to work. That that's amazing to me. Plus, you know health issues drinking. Looms gambling issues. Anything like that. It's not a b, even if it doesn't interfere with your work? It's going and so for five years. Today. He felt that this did this purchased the right to have

I guess, install this, this bizarre monitoring of his employees daily lives. I mean everything every aspect there like this. The only story the thing that he had a strange department. I think that he formed. I came across another one, I just recently read about. I knew that the care, while braided know that those call this He also had another division Mccall at that he did. He called the Afford service department and the Foreign Service it sounds like something you don't like. They work on car exhaust. You drive to the service Department today in Gujarat. Oil changed rain, not sin I, in Moses, from like nineteen, thirty, two about nineteen, forty, seven one for died. He he hired a guy named Parents are Harry Bennet bodyguard exactly this is this is for its personal bodyguard. He hired him to be second in command at Ford basically, and he pray. He ran Ford with an iron fist. Now they say that you know Ford was

I'm in charge, of course, but Bennett was a who's. The guy he's been forced their ease, the presence and better Bennett to hire employees to work under him. Guess we hired here hired the worst of the worst I mean he hired Pro Exercise he hired wrestlers, he higher on, he heard thugs yard hoodlums people from the underworld that that you would normally a voice, Erin Old, not to say that you know that, but these are people that you are on the other. The edges assigned me were hired, not because they were reform from now. No, no! No, because they were very much in you is recommended. I look up picture young one of these incidents involving the service department and the battle of the over saddle overpass the guys look plague. They

we're out of work has Capone was in jail or something it doesn't. Look like every gangster movie of everyday look like you're stereotypical gangster and they look like they are spoiling for trouble and those are re balance men and he higher. He had a year an entire army of these goons that would go out and they were the they were the union busters. These are the guys that if there was a threat of union strikers, Ford hated Unions, he hated every aspect of he couldn't stance of your online marching watch out for better guns, because they're they're coming there's no about a third of either in some way, and they didn't care who was watching because the battle the over happened right in front of reporters amorous they and it still cameras in advance They had a lot more than what you ll see. If you do a search for this, I kurdish people go looking ass. The whole time If you do, a search for battle of the overpass you'll see the photos that exist from this most

voter grass were destroyed by bennets men. Are they? attack the the organizers of the event, Walter Ruther and Richard Frankenstein, I think, is his name who they are They then turned on reporters that were recordings and even lady, through their handing out pamphlet, yeah, the when you say tat they they beat them up. I mean they're, taking them in punching them and dragging them down iron steps, and you can see photos of these guys just blackened black and blue in full and bloody afterwards. The only way that these photographs got out is is an amazing story. One of the photographers actually walked to the edge of the over around the edge of the repairs and dropped his camera into a passing convertible and the can. Set off with it with the camera. You know this is the plan right out of a moving exactly the plan to get the photographs actually knew what to expect, and, of course they reporters, you know, probably be silly. Yeah. So when we talk, I mean that goes through

new contacts to talking about the spies and inform too, is there not just trying to figure out what your life is like they're to figure out? you have union sympathies and see what happens if you deal and what's so to me in all this is that you know by this, Ford had allowed some of their company control to go to his fun. At all. But that was really nominal control and that's not. His answer was an incompetent. Manager and incompetent executive. It's because this father really didn't trust him. Judgment didn't want to relinquish control and ethical was thinking a little or no in a more modern way about this thinking. Will we did make a deal with the union's? We should come to some sort of agreement, while Violence is happening that is supported by his father. S was but more sympathetic than than Henry. Of course I mean it far more by the problem, was you know given control of former company to excellent nineteen eighteen. Throw till the early on in the same right having he had in. Actually, given up Control

it's hard to believe, but Henry Head still commanding rights. He had yet. I e the ability to veto any decision that Ethel made any often did that to me, It says were wise s leave and there is almost like a different chinese visit, a figurehead, but you know he's Henry's trying to give him some some freedom- Will he sees gathered iron fist grip on him? I'm just not aligned, it happened, can imagine other made. It will feel not. And I mean he he died pretty young in it sounded like he had a difficult life on under that iron thumb of of his father work in his father's company. We'll talk a little bit more about the next generation a little later, but you know everything next thing we have to address here. We ve talked about forward in the union's and and spying his aunt, amateurs boy. When your car breaks down dude

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called the future: listen first contact with lorries evil. That's me on Iheart Radio out on Apple pie, chasms or wherever you get your podcast and really goes beyond just his his own personal opinions to the works quite hard to broadcast them. He thought Jewish international bankers were responsible for world where one in its strange, on the one hand, that belief manner, did in some surprising pacifism on for its part in eighteen fifteen. He travelled to you, in this attempt to stage some peace. Then it was all aboard the ship called the peace ship which got him a lot of criticism, but he also bought a newspaper. He bought the Dearborn Independent here I was specifically take to use as a platform against Jews. Editorial comments, are these editorials columns that he would write that that women were

writers, went with its Bosley, he was reviewing all his editing this this decide. This newspaper, I suppose, later, he would deny it but had v a very strong anti semitic statements in the mom. You know I am just to go back, I mean Henry. He blamed everything on the Jews many right down to the other, the world, both world wars with the second Lusitania. He was one that kind of bought into that conspiracy. Theory that in I was sunk on purpose and that's what started this whole thing. But these these were just filled with aunt medic views viewpoints that this is. Should we until now the european part of this right now this has, I think we can go without mentioning. Ok, here's this is so bad for Henry, This time in bed. You know he's doin putting us out their solely with the report and I guess these. These anti smoke viewpoints. Made their way over to Germany.

To a certain individual named Adolf Hitler agree, wild or to Germany? This is this is prior to Hitler being the chancellor, but on four lay Hitler kind of gravitated too his views and said denied. I liked waiters, He thinks the successful american industrialist with views that seem similar yeah equally, and so this is bad news for Henry he's doing so well here in the states united having gone gone, just fine, more or less Hitler picks up on these things actually has the stuff translated into german and distributed. Yet a series of articles on the quote international too, and in their quite popular in Germany, do there's a book called the International Jew in its it's really just the clippings from the dear was a Dearborn given independent Dearborn Independent, and this is so unfortunate for Henry because there is a lot of water parallels barely any are off terrible enough that the other

was between Hitler and at sorry, Hereford. And I'm not saying and before it is a Nazi and anyway I'm saying that Had these anti semitic views Hitler like these views and then, if you call remember, we said that You know what happened with worried that the whole matter some discipline in Germany, but I'm going actually the every man car there is also something that Hitler kind of patterned after Henry for answer, after Henry Ford and said I want in every man car for Germany, the way the Ford made one for the United States and it's gonna be the Volkswagen Beetle and This whole story about that too, but so here in this It's you can imagine what this is doing. Two hundred for its reputation, it's just it's getting worse and worse and worse every day, I've with more comes out about Hitler and what kind of policies he's instant in Pre were Germany with the onset of the war. Oh, my gosh just pushed over the edge in and made him a view.

Unpopular character and Ford contrary to back out of things, you know he you you had mentioned that eventually he he said. Oh, I wasn't that involved in the paper. He did retract some of his statements, but according to buy If you magazine, he also didn't try to stop the publication of the international do until the middle of weren't until things were clearly beyond bad that you know it says, is my outrageous outrageous views. I mean the stuff that you'll reader you'll hear about this. As is amazing, I mean and is paid This group I mean it goes that he blamed everything on him. He blamed news. Gone them. He thought movies were were sinful than you know. Very Henry Puritan Veer, puritan aspect about then he didn't like dancing. He didn't like music. He felt a wise damned thing. He would stage dances where you know anything

this is like the twenties or something for people are doing. Dance was like the Charleston. He would stage dances where you do the poker Virginia and but here's the interesting thing like he would ass little newsreels wouldn't have a with Ford Motor Company being mere problem thing like he would also in the newsreels, wouldn't have a problem with Ford Motor Company being mere prominently displayed in the end, the newsreels to promote the vehicles yeah, he clearly couldn't reconcile his business than his personal S was very conflicted. Very conflicted. Button is just really terribly enforcing timing for him, an anomaly that I mean in these outrageous views with what was a guy at Indisposition doing releasing this type of material. I don't. I can't wait him. Somebody tell him. Ok, no Henry Ford back off back down back down. I don't understand. What's really strange, though it is this kind of

on does some of his personal reputation by it also helps make us company, or at least the war, does not these views, but the the since World war to help favours company. way, because he is so old fashioned. He is so resistant to change that five by the thirty This company is falling into lower places. they're they're, not the top car company anymore, so he's he's. Religion bye, bye World WAR, two we're Talkin, oh my gosh reduction forty years, her thirty five years after the day, the beginning, his company are the multi rather anyways not accompany them they got a kind of move in a new direction. So there There come out new models which I'm surprised ever happened, but you know they had the model a wish. They renamed aid, because it was like a complete start over with what he said. I couldn't he couldn't go on from the model tee to the model.

He went, he went right back as adults, totally different vehicle, even others while similarities, but he was just Corky. In that way- and he said you know we're one- he was kind of pay to the pacifist role was for peace in exactly well in one or two, then things change and everybody was come on board with Russia with war production. So with we ve But you know some the plants in offer. We talk about the way the plants could adapt to more production, and that of making engines, are gonna make bombers and instead of trucks, we're gonna, make tanks you're telling me that plants can they still have that keep it to make a few changes on the line and dramatically change with reducing going from producing passes to producing tank thanks exactly others is very modular they could get, they could shift over within a matter of hours. I mean, I think, that's a great example of how the hell the moon

Emily line work why it works into this day I mean it's. A great idea is one that has never really gone away. He does, look what was already there and perfected the wall there on that. Subject of Ford really working on thing until he has a great product we ve gotta, took it up of his weirder experiments, and in some of this is really call some of it is unexpected. Some of it is way before his time. I think this is very I expected the outward I ate. would never see a guy that you know would even consider moving under different model of vehicle for nineteen years. That's how he would do something like this, but he was. He was heavy heavy. you soybean research doesn't sound like as automotive related, but it very much is- and this is this is one of those- is crazy- They mean he used winter. He made food with us. He made fibres with this. He made plastics with this, and the plastic thing is where it came into play the automobile he actually crew

a plastic automobile in eighteen, forty one that may you know the circuit, it would write a drive around with reporters and people can feel it This is a false eyes, vehicle out of plastic. There was made from soya beans, and adjusting this had never been done before, and he also had this vehicle. It never was his personal vehicle is a white vehicle that you'll see in press photos, and that was all plastic vehicle. He himself had a black vehicle that he fitted with a place truck and the soybean materially may plastics. He would forward or is he would demonstrate the as the resilience of material by striking it with an exit. He would hit it himself with an ax, his own personal vehicle on the trunk, as it had this one panel public discussion of what had happened a few years earlier. This is so crazy. He wouldn't you would put like a like a rubber sleeve on the sharp end of its wooden puncture it, but he would. He would swing ass, hard ass. He could trunk of the thing with the accident wooden dent, but the acts would fall

his hands in fifteen twenty feet in the air, and you everybody would take for us to be a great photo opportunity with Henry Ford, easier, for him doing us really really fascinating, but I did and there he went in to you'd ever poorer is to the mansion House luncheons, where every course of the meal would be soybean? They spoke as he was very interested in die. I hadn't done that about him. Again, at a kind of does make sense that some thumb intention roll over his life again that you love, that's all he loved to eat so either We were talking about meals that we're highly stoiber yeah, he made he would make that the meat would be soil, so I've invade has some tofu exactly. Who is something like you? I thought you would taste like, like pork chops, ever he would. He would develop these things so that they tasted that way is very advanced disarmament and seventy and had entire in a part of it

there's a whole compound of of labs on his facility that that were just strictly devoted to soybean science they would create saw mill again, an ice cream Can these and- and even if this is this is maybe even though the strangest part he would wear a suit those made of soybean fibre, so he had a sweeping fibre suit. There was neither some woollen there to please we're in the serbian suit to the soya bean luncheon. Well, I've ordered him like Henry for it as well. long but yeah it literally. The interest. Look like a normal suit, you know, and it is their photos of him in the even go to the fairly mansion, and you can look. There's a restaurant there and its photos on the wall on you. There's him wearing soybean suit. Our aid. For you guys go out and Google Pictures of Henry Ford in that being here, we ve got a switch gear is for a minute.

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Let's get back to talking about Henry Ford yeah. Let's do that! I'm, let's go back to a plastic development. Why? Why didn't that take off went happen? I think I personally believe this is just poor timing, because it was nineteen, forty one when he made the when he made the tiredly plastic vehicle and he was demonstrate in all this and then the warhead and things really regressed. At that point you know you're just historically trying to find as much metals we could an in built as much I wore machinery we could and then for that you and the soldiers come back and we want something different and it just kind of things had passed by and your he's not a control anymore. That unease why she's dead died was in eighteen. Forty seven saw things things changed dramatically over. Their point is just kind of idea that went away, and then you know the next thing. You know it's so in eighteen, eighty and were heard about Saturn with this new plastic automobile was not really so new, not that new, and I think what s interesting about this, as if

Moss, hang it on the trees, and he said you know the Ford used to come. Not would send people down here to harvest the spanish MOSS and bring it back to Detroit and pack it into the sea. The seeds of the model when a pretty good idea. It's just right on the costs there too late to really make it a reality. Had he had a lot of great ideas, I mean really. Did he really log relatives but whose use big and perfecting things he used his fastening. Fascinating character, and I mean one quickly. Anecdote here that I mean this is from listen email that actually came into cars that when we read the sun on our show, but someone taken at an airport right in the Everglades from the guide pointed out, the spanish MOSS hanging from the trees and you know that Ford used to come. That would send people down here to harvest the spanish MOSS and bring Actually Detroit and packet into the sea, the seeds the model t early on and have this like that really early model teeth, and then the yard

People who, by the Maltese, would realise, like one can this kind of funny rasher my latest and thing, is my my spanish MOSS might not. With my with Barreaux, through material into the skin and they would lay eggs enable scam. So there was a long over there that they decided, while we're gonna do with cotton, but again interesting idea that you know who knows? Maybe he would this is great Eddie and by a bunch of everglades in property, for them exactly I do. I feel like that that be complaints or in the mass that something you wearing like. First time, you gotta believe I don't take the spanish Mouth home with the enemy competing for land with the Disney. At the time we reared that's a pretty fastened story, but we ve got it a little bit about his nostalgia too that's about all these innovations. Are these innovative ideas but he's? we realise is late in life. How much?

change the world how much he is directly responsible for changing the United States, then and probably influence Worldwide ideas ends he's a little bit nostalgic for his old country farmers. If that he wanted to leave, and we very tight about the dance, I point of view. I love that play second spent days or weeks there. The other part of an interest in preserving history, you must build those attest, regulate their threatened, Dearborn, Greenville, village and. Why is more or less bunk born Greenfield Township man he comes so interested in preserving the history of his boyhood world. His boyhood heroes, guys like Edison, like the Wright Brothers, and I think you can talk about this a little bit because you ve been to the place that is the shrine this preservation Abundant Henry Ford Museum, which is incredible incredible

I don't think I've ever been to better museum from my point of view as love that play second spent days or weeks there. The other part of that that complex, I guess, built this test, regulate their threatened, Dearborn Greenville Village, and if you remember one, and if we measure not that it use born Greenfield Township Man, he built Dearborn need, though, this little this little land for himself called Greenville Village so disease tryin to even replicate the name of the place where were you this places so the sooner he he brings parcel what he remembers has been his Amerika. I too Greenville Village annual. That maybe I mean it's is pretty fancy. I mean this is a ninety. Acre property is get something like eighty reed buildings on the property- and these are all historic, starkly said buildings. It saw it

fire am sorry hired Harvey fire stones. Entire farm from from Ohio was brought there Laugh Edison's web with some of the original. You know at the original light bulbs- and you know all the original furniture in everything from us. Nailed down, so it was never moved on the way in which brought the entire building. You don't wanna Wilbur. There are other bicycle, shouted the owner date, no Heil, that's Rincon, artifact he's got he's. Gotta he's gotta Courthouse the Lincoln, actually practice law, which is incredible. Every every single thing has some hidden historical significance and again it's taken he's trying to the old that aid eighties lifestyle in you know a growing hoops with in and place that He now own, since this is an enormous piece of property in Dearborn, an end like setting against in the rest of the country. You know the interstate I'm going through old landmarks like that actively trying to preserve

something realising what is happening and what he wants to keep from. From how he remembers the country's equities even like a steam engine, and now this is the recent edition, but you can have you can take a ride on a multi through the property which he couldn't have done at that time. But now you can use If you go there ever- and I really am- I encourage people together, beautiful but you'll see kids like rolling hoops with sticks and things like that. They have all kinds of fun things I mean you can even watch like what baseball was like back in your plane with the old myths, an old balls and bats, and it's in the performs its really. It's really a fascinating place sounds very saw, stepped back in history fell, and I guess that about wraps it out, then, for four Henry Ford: he died one hundred years to the day after his father had emigrated from Ireland to Michigan just tying up, this bridging two different worlds, tying up this amazing life with

extreme highs and extreme low is really here and not even to this day the faint, the Ford motor company remains a family business see what's with every night. There won't go into all the details here, but there's a ford at the head of for motor company right now. We play generously is the head of it and his father still entice father still lie, which was one of is the only living grandchild of Henry Ford, is still is still around his upper eighties and he owns the Detroit Lions at this point. But I hear he's meet all three. it has been afford somewhere involved with the company. Is it with you, mention Henry Ford. The second to his his grandson, who took over the company very end of his life. He, this strange relationship with his son add saw his grandson. I think he might have seen him it's kind of a threat that power, but finally, with his wife, strong urging him on. He did relinquish a lot of his control

grandson, late in life in You know so much about this. I guess gets into the modern history afford by Henry. For the second really changes the kind of company it is exactly in Europe. that point forward. Its eyes very has been very successful ever since and it was. It was up to the point that there were some real shaky scenario Minos round the war time. But you know it now. In play for Junior and in an office. Isa is actually official title as Executive Chairman Ford Motor Company in his father Lane Clay forward his eyes still sit on the board so important it's far reaching. I wonder who's gonna be next, because in a wing play for junior, he sees only fifty five. That's cannoneers retirement age of next, I don't know I just wanna whose who's gonna be next in power and careful down eventually, I would refer you to family. This guy he's he's just eve. Brilliant, I'm in Asia probably boarding, borderline geniuses, innovator,

He had Every year, these bad sized him he's got a tyrannical sigh, very, very eccentric. But but overall I mean this guy. When you start worrying about him, it doesn't sound like me, are before even more I guess he may not have thought much about the guy think this will encourage people to read about him. I think so if want to learn more about him and had left a visit. The museum Talking about you and beautiful, see see some of this legacy in it, and I know you, you could probably speak more about this issue, but for it seems like they have accepted for the company seems like they have accept and, while I wanna say embraced by accepted their founders entire. History, no he's trying to sugar poet, no sugar coatings in We have to tell you that there is enough that makes the man undeniably impressive to talk about the less impressive things too.

so very interesting. I thank you so much for first suggests him. So wholeheartedly he's been really learn about great. I thought same way. I am a nuisance think how to begin with the start digging into some of the biography material psyche. You just want more and more and more yeah, you, Sir learning things like just one last weird factor, the Ford and which is that you had visited. He had hot and cold running right water and every rather a plus half water too. You know because he wanted a refreshing rainwater about half a minute to cause it's a fifty six room mentioned, I think, and they said that they build you all. These extravagant things like a poor bird baths were heeded YAP. Her best were heated debates that they had all these be allocated like a boy now or whatever they had all these activities, and it was all the keep Ethel Ford from

a wine to date, girls, one in which drinker smoke or whenever the model t out for us exactly whether they felt that this is a way to distract him. Was that this grand home and have lots of things to do. I think my favorite home amenity, though I kind of which I had this an underground pipe that would suck death out of the house, all cool- I don't know how well that worked. It seems like if that was a puzzle. buddy? Everybody would have that we will have to worry about that. I'm gonna get. That sounds like a good idea, so I guess that's it for forward. now carry, and I, as I mentioned it, and upset unfriendly India. What can it upsets the aldermen I am sure all we ve got less well. The other asked before we might have covered the model air. The model t leave, we talk about even starting a model, teak had squatted sure just be it in and we did it. We ve done a p son. He'll have to crank up the model, t you did

an arm breaker I'll play that it really was less your forward, and you can read that I like it, was snap your arm. That's how dangerous it was in its in nothing. Was standard it's really and unique arbiters there's a lot of history. There, though, we also listen to some of those upsets on Scots package, which is called car staff. If you want sure any more ideas about forward any other, auto grates you'd like us to discuss at some point. We are at history podcast at discovery, dot com- where Twitter, it missed in history, and we are on Facebook and what kind of four, waited articles. I mean the class, the customer, article is how engines word, but what have you added at Firstly, that you think is really for it: you know we ve got some model. T information, you know, can upright overview type stuff specific with them. And I know this and stop out there, I gotta a blog, that's about darting, the model t which is really interesting. I mean that mentioned that things difficult to get going

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