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things this time? Yes, so it has become kind of a tradition to start part, two of our two part unearthed episodes with potpourri. That's the stuff, that's interesting, but it doesn't quite fall into a category with other fine. So first, researchers for multiple universities have confirmed that indigenous people in what is now northern New Mexico took pro active steps to prevent wildfires, at least as far back as the eleven hundreds members of the team interviewed bill elders at Haimaires Pueblo, as well as elders from the HOPI tribe, the White Mountain Apache, tribe and Zuni Pueblo about these people's cultural and land management practices. They combine this ethnographic work

with archaeological study of the area tree ring research and modeling vague included that the people of the same as mountains have used a variety of methods to prevent destructive wildfires for nearly a thousand years of included using small low intensity fires to get rid of unnecessary, flammable material, burning, flammable material for cooking and heating seriously gathering a lot of what might cause, and then using it for a practical purpose, burning off crop land after the harvests were over and then also just keeping a buffer around settlements that was completely clear of trees and brush. Plus hundreds of people lived in these settlements, so just the day to day, foot traffic would keep small burnable plants around the settlements to a minimum. The team drew a direct connection between this research and wildfire conditions populated areas today, in the words of lead author Christopher Roofs quote, we shouldn't be

fasting. How to avoid fire and smoke. We should ask ourselves what kind of fire and smoke do we want to coexist with another news. Archaeologists in China have found what they believe to be a man's cosmetic cream. It's a small bronze jar found in a two thousand seven hundred year old tomb belonging to a nobleman, and it contained a substance made of animal fat and a carbonate mud known as moon milk, probably used to like whiten the skin. This is not remotely the oldest cosmetic product ever found in China. There are cosmetics sticks dating back to at least one thousand four hundred and fifty BCE, but this is the oldest find to to be specifically a product or a man, an electrical crew trying to move some lines. Stumbled stumbled onto a previously unknown tunnel under a garden garden in Wales and at this point

made this tunnel and why still a mystery, the work crew filled what they dug back in to protect it since it'll probably be some time before it can really be studied. What's happened in the village of Tintern, which is home of Tintern Abby, subject of a famous poem, the Abby was built between the twelve TH and sixteen th centuries, and it is not known if the tunnels have any connection to the abbey, but the tunnels aren't shown on any survey maps dating back to the seventeen hundreds either they were dug for that point, or someone dug them secretly and didn't make note of it. Mystery tunnels, okay, So moving on the Hazari carpet is a wool carpet that was made about four hundred BCE and it was found in a and in nineteen forty seven, and it is in the collection of the Hermitage museum. It is an astounding condition considering how old it is and the conditions it was in before being unearthed. Although one core

of this carpet is mostly missing. It is otherwise largely intact and its colors and patterns are still very vivid. That has led to a lot of questions about how exactly it has retained so much color for so long and in the conditions that it was in for so long and according to research published in the Journal scientific reports. One reason may be that the wool was previously fermented with the fermentation process. Allowing the pigments to penetrate deeper into the fibre, and then that would make the color more vivid an more permanent. This conclusion means that the use of fermented wool and dying is about two thousand years older than was poor obviously known a man in New Haven Connecticut, bought a blue and white fifteenth century Ming Dynasty ball at a yard, sale for thirty five bucks It was sold through Auction House Sotheby's, which kept the sellers name confidential, but that

turnover was that was a good flip. Its selling price was seven hundred and twenty one thousand eight hundred dollars, so that was a yard sale find that turned out to be something extremely valuable at something that it seems like the buyer suspected at the time. One of the accounts that I read was did not negotiate. This thirty five dollars for a bowl of the yard sale at all. He just went ahead and got it and then started asking questions with appraisers, pretty much right away. So now we have a couple of objects that have a little bit of similarity to that, but they surprised people by turning out to be ancient artifacts, something that came as a bit of a shock first about twenty years ago. Somebody noticed a large and conveniently shaped rock in a garden rockery and they had it taken to their stable to use as a step when mounting their horse, so nice squared off right step for getting up on a horse. If you need a little help with that

at least ten years later. They noticed that there was a laurel wreath carved into the side of it. How many horses were mounted off of this rock before anyone realized? This turned to be nearly two thousand year old slab that probably came from Greece or Western Asia. In addition to the Laurel wreath, it bears a greek inscription that translates to The people and the young men honour Dimitrios son traders, the son of Luke Os Auction House, Willian Wallace, asked for public help and figuring out exactly how this piece got to the UK. It's likely that a wealthy person on a grand tour of the continent brought it back into the area sometime in the eighteen, th or nineteen TH century. That was very common. We talked about that some in our episode on the Parthenon Marbles, but most of the original houses in the area have since been demolished or destroyed by fire, and it is

really not clear- which of these households specifically might have. You know been home to the person who originally brought it in this peace was expected to be auctioned off in February, which is why it caught my eye for this episode of unearthed, but that action has been postponed until June. I love this next one. Similarly, in twenty thirteen, a couple of people at assigning for the book porphyry were leafing through the book and they were shocked to discover a picture their friend Helen's coffee table it turned out. The table was topped with a mosaic that had originally decorated a ship of the roman emperor Caligula and their friend Helen was antics he's dealer Helen for your Roddy who had bought the mosaic in ITALY more than forty years prior cover the author of the back, an interview sacked about like hearing these women excitedly being like that's hellenes table and whose items I'm sorry whose Helen

what are you read? It isn't just like similar to hellenes table. What did you hear feel out? He maintains that she had bought this mosaic in good faith, had been told simply that it had belonged to interest Craddock Family, no knowledge that it was argued logically significant in any way. But after this discovery, That it was really something that had belonged to Caligula. It was seized and turned over to the italian consulate. It was repatriated to ITALY and put on display at a museum and then in March it was moved to the Museo Delay, Navi Romani, which houses other artifacts from Caligula ships. In other news on that front. Italy's Ministry of Cultural Heritage, cultural activities and tourism plans to open an under round gallery dedicated to items from colleague, Gillis, pleasure gardens that is expected to open this spring died under the exact bay. Or whether

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Told to do it and at the time he was fourteen and a half fifteen years old. They didn't know any better, listen to camp hell and a wiki on the I heart, radio, app apple podcasts or wherever you get. Your podcasts Next that we have a category that is always a favourite of mine when I work on these episodes and that is the books and lead yours is really archaeologists have announced the discovery of dead sea scroll, fragments that are at least nineteen hundred years old. These parchment fragments contain text from the books of Zacharias and Nay whom written in Greek and they were found in a cave where they are believed to have been hidden during the bar cockspur revolt. These fragments were discovered during a project in Israel and the occupied West Bank, basically a sweep of hundreds of caves with

hope of protecting items of archaeological and historical significance from plundering and other damage. I'm sure there will be more analysis into these fragments later on. In other news and another thing, that's just a favorite of mine that somehow we've not talked about much on the show research published in the English historical review has explored the question of why and how the doomsday book was made. The doomsday book was Britain's earliest public record and it was compiled at the request of king I am the first a k, a William, the conqueror and the eleventh century. So basically, after the Norman Conquest of England, will you

wanted a survey of the land that he was now ruling in part. He could figure out how much to charge in taxes. So in one thousand and eighty six, he sent government inspectors all over England to gather information about things like who lived there and on what property and how much livestock they had and surveyors ask each question through three wants to find out the answer for when Edward the confessor was still king of England wants to find out how that had changed when William became king and wants to find out how things actually stood in one thousand and eighty six, when the survey was being conducted, the resulting books that came from all this interrogation include the little doomsday which details Essex, Norfolk and Suffolk and the great doomsday which two tails the rest

England, with the exception of London, Winchester, County, Durham and or thumbnail, and there are other books compiled from this same data as well, including the Exxon doomsday which is one of the earlier drafts, and covers wilt shirt, Dorset, Somerset, Devon and Cornwall. This resource that we are talking about right now focused on the x doomsday in the words of lead author doktor, Stephen Baxter, professor of medieval history. At the University of Oxford quote. This new research on the earliest surviving doomsday manuscript shows the survey was compiled remarkably quickly and then you like a modern database, where data is entered in one format and can be extracted and other formats for specific purposes. It's really annoying using achievement, considering that they were keeping all of this data without the help of things like computers right some one, there is a mastered ba of of pre

automated calculation yeah yeah, it's a lot of someone's. There are a lot of people that were involved and actually making books out of this data. This particular paper followed. Another project called the conquerors commissioners, unlocking the doomsday survey of South Western England Baxter was a co investigator on this earlier profit. Under led investigator Julia Crick. This project created a complete digital facsimile of the Exxon doomsday, including identifying which scribe route, which part of the manuscript, which I find incredibly cool. It also reiterate earlier research by other people, including Carol signs at the University of Chicago. She suggested that, while this data gathering step with the the doomsday book was

famously completed pretty quickly the process of actually compiling that data into the final doomsday books which survive today. That took a lot more time and in some cases, was really chaotic and feeling there that could be said about writing it. The sort of stuff you missed in history, glass, sir, I'm? U can get all your information pretty quickly, but then making sense of olive oil and whip with the Exxon Dooms doomsday made more complicated by the but there were almost two dozen scribes working on it, but if we had two dozen scribes who work butter up, no, no We lose our minds. Research published in the journal heritage. Science has examined the english deed, from the early modern period, specifically

What type of animal skin the deeds were written on using peptide mass fingerprinting? They determined that the preferred skin for this purpose with sheep that was true for more than ninety percent of the deeds that they looked at sheepskin would have been incredibly commonplace and pretty cheap thanks to the prevalence of british sheep farming. But the authors concluded that there was probably another reason for this apparent preference for sheepskin as well, because I've sheepskins physical structure and fat content it separates until layers pretty easily, especially when you scrape it makes that really difficult to alter the text on something without leaving a really obvious mark so like. If you wanted to fight

some information on your deed, trying to scrape off that old text would just leave a really obvious mark on it. So this use of sheep skin may have been as much about fraud prevention as it was about they're just being a lot of sheep skin around that's something. The author is backed up with some historical references to sheep skin dating back as early as the twelve TH century. People basically advising others on how to write official documents and saying yeah use sheep skin because you can tell if somebody's messed with it, but the preference for sheepskin for these documents lasted for centuries. After the last of these written references, like mentioning that particular point. So, ok, this last entry and books and letters isn't exactly a book, but it is a text, enmity, in early, modern Europe, pregnancy and giving birth were inherently incredibly risky

and people used a variety of objects to try to offer themselves and their loved ones. Some kind of protection, things like amulets relics, staves and birthing girdles in England. The church even kept these items on hand to loan out to people during pregnancy and delivery. Recently published research and royal society open science, look specifically at birthing girdles. Some of these were made from animal scanner, silk or some other fabric, and they were very clearly meant to be worn, but others were made from parchment that was covered in symbols and prayers that were meant to be touched or kissed or rubbed as part of like a religious veneration, and it hasn't always

been clear, whether these are just kind of stored as a parchment role, whether they were also meant to be worn on a person's body. The team examined at one particular scroll from the welcome collection, which was covered in images and writing, much of which was very heavily worn and they found evidence of human proteins that suggests that it was indeed worn during pregnancy. They also found evidence of proteins that are found in honey, milk and specific plants that are referenced in medieval medical books about treatments during pregnancy and childbirth. Although all of this suggests that this was an

in some kind of belt or girdle- it's not clear, exactly how it was worn, like they don't know exactly how it might have been wrapped in tied in. There is an illustration of this paper that had like three potential configurations. I have this on a person's body, you folded into a hat next, that we have a couple of fines that are related to music and arts. First, I love this one. A large snails shell found in Marseilles Cave in the Pyrenees eighty years ago is now believed to be the oldest known, win the instrument of its type based on radio carbon dating its eighteen thousand years old. The Tipp of the shell is broken off and that something that researchers don't believed to have been accidents all because it's like the break is the strongest part of the shell and then the opposite. End has evident

of it being intentionally cut and perforated. There's also evidence that he must height was used as a red pigment on the shell for decorative purposes. It seems that this shell used to have a mouthpiece. There is a brownish residue around the inside of the Tipp, which appears to have been some kind of resin that would have held the mouthpiece in place. There are also other shell horns that have been discovered that have some kind of mouthpiece still intact and here's. What I think is the best sentence from the press release on this quote to confirm the hypothesis that this conk was used to produce, found scientists enlisted the help of a foreign player who managed to produce three sounds close to the notes see

we will. I will share a link where people can hear that on our social media. Next up when Edvard munch famous work, the scream was on display in Copenhagen in one thousand, nine hundred and five people noticed that there was faint writing in the top left, of the canvas translated from Norwegian it read could only have been painted by a madman. Since then, it was generally believed that a member of the public had defaced the painting with the graffiti but curators at the National Museum in Oslo have now studied the writing using infrared photography, which made the handwriting a lot easier to see, and they determined that monk wrote it himself, probably after it was exhibited publicly in one eight hundred and ninety five. Some of the commentary about that exhibition was really negative, including people speculating that monk was

mentally ill and he was just particularly bothered by this because he had a history of mental illness in his family. I kind of love that it's him having his working through his chagrin over the the reviews Moving on restoration on Pompe Mosaic of Alexander, the great defeating persian King Darius at the battle of ISIS started at the end of January. This is a multi month project. That's estimated to be completed in July, Its being managed by ITALY, Central Restoration Institute, the University of Molly's Unimol and the centre for research on archaeology tree and conservation science. This mosaic is known as the Alexander Mosaic and it was originally a floor mosaic at the house of the fawn in Pompei. It was unearthed during an excavation there in eighteen, thirty one we're going to get to some repatriations in just a SEC, but first we're gonna to pause for a sponsor break.

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class. Welcome everybody to psychology and the good life. It became the biggest class in the history of you a little bit surprised to see, as many of you are here as our hero, but that's great, but it's not just my students who need to understand the science of wellbeing and that's why we launched the happiness lab. So you can learn about it too. Are you ready to feel happier head to the I heart, radio, app Apple podcast, wherever you like to listen We have several repatriations to talk about this time around in various previous episodes and installments of unearthed. We have talked about the Benin bronzes. These are thousands of items that were looted from the kingdom of Benin and, what's now, Nigeria, during a punitive expedition by the British in eight hundred and ninety seven, and although some institutions, including the British Museum, have insisted that they will be retaining these bronzes that are in their

action. Others have started working on repatriating them. In March, the University of Aberdeen announced that it will return a bronze depicting the king of denine, which is been in its collection since one thousand nine hundred and fifty seven and authorities in Berlin have also started negotiating the return of hundreds of bronzes currently being held at the ethnic, illogical museum it'll be weeks or possibly even months before these pieces are actually returned, there's a whole process going along with us, but because it involves so many pieces. This german effort in particular may put pressure on other institutions that have so far said they intend

to keep the bronze is. In March, the F B, I announced the repatriation of a steely that had been on wound the Dallas Museum of ART. That's delay had been looted from a temple in Nepal in the nineteen eighties and had been loans to the museum by a private collector who bought it at auction. In the ninety nine, these law enforcement and the museum began looking at the statues provenance after tweets by Erin L Thomson, who is on Twitter as at art crime prof about the statue being stolen. The steely was handed over at Naples Embassy in Washington DC next up in our most recent year end unearthed. We talked about a recommendation issued by the Dutch Council for culture that called for dutch museums to return items that were taken from their countries of origin during the dutch colonial era. If there was

reasonable certainty that these items had been taken by force. In January, the Netherlands approved a centralized mechanism for repatriating such looted objects. There is also a four point: five million Euro project in the works, which is a joint effort among several museums, Anna University, which will develop practical guidance for the museums that are holding these objects. Five phd candidates, five posts, doctorate researchers and to Providence researchers are expected to work on this effort over the span of four years in March officials. In the U S returned two hundred. Seventy seven pre colombian are objects to the Mexican Consulate and Nogales Arizona, customs and border patrol had confiscated most of these objects and October of twenty twelve. There are two mexican citizens who had tried to bring them.

Cross the border, the rest had been how's that Arizona Chandler Museum in the museum had reported them the homeland security investigations and twenty thirteen. It is really not clear why these repatriation just happened in twenty twenty one, considering that those confiscation. An investigation, started in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen there's. There's just Information included about why it's dragged out just sort of skip over that part, possibly there's a reason, but I could not find it. Lastly, for our repatriations in January, Harvard University announced the Body Museum of archaeology and ethnology had the remains of at least fifteen people of african descent, who may have been alive while slavery was practiced in the US in its collections, the Pivot museum has come up on several episodes of our show before, including in our recent episode on Julio Teo and our two thousand and fifteen interview

about the Harvard Indians School, which we re played as a Saturday classic and twenty twenty. This announcement in January prompted the association on American Indian affairs to send a letter to the university president, alleging that harbour is in violation of the native American Graves Protection and Repatriation act. You'll see that as any p p r, a nag press criticisms included that the museum has failed to repatriate requested items in a timely manner and that the museum has catalogued its collection in a way that makes the repatriation process harder. The letter also alleged that the museum had failed to consult with tribes during an inventory of its collection that took place in two thousand and response. The museum announced that it plans to adjust its repatriation policies and there's a lot more information about this. That, I think, is really valuable for people to read for themselves, including the

The text of the association on American Indian Affairs Open letter to the museum and all that can be found at W W W dot, indian dash affairs DOT Org Slash Harvard that hd mail, and now for everyone's favorite exhumations. On March thirty at the spanish government approved a fund of six hundred sixty five thousand euros that roughly seven hundred eighty thousand dollars to exude graves at the valley of the fallen. We, have talked about these graves in our previous episode on the examination of the remains of Francisco Franco, at least thirty thousand.

People are buried at the valley of the fallen and in many cases their bodies were moved from other burial sites without consulting with their families. This is part of the ongoing work to identify the remains of people who were killed during the spanish civil war and the years that followed, many of whom were buried in mass graves and other news. A plan to relocate part of the remains of the venerable Cornelia Connally has been abandoned. After a public outcry, Connolly with a nun who was born in Philadelphia and later moved to the UK, where she established the society of the Holy child Jesus in eighteen? Forty six, she died in Mayfield, EAST Sussex, England in eighteen. Seventy nine herrimans had actually already been moved once from her convent to the chapel at Mayfield School. That happened in nineteen

thirty five. This proposal to move some of her remains to Philadelphia was connected to an effort to have her named as a saint. But hundreds of people submitted formal objections to the plan and more than fifteen hundred signed an online petition against. It the society of the Holy child, Jesus ultimately decided to withdraw its proposal to have her remains moved next. The Mayo County Council in Ireland has called on the government to pass a legislative bill that would clear the way for the exclamation of remains at the two mother and baby home that home operated from nineteen twenty five to nineteen. Sixty one The mother and baby home has been in the news repeatedly since two thousand and fourteen, and we discussed it on our previous installment of an earth in two thousand and eighteen out of wedlock. Pregnancies were incredibly stigmatized, so people were sent to this home, often against their will, to give birth in secret as many as eight hundred children die

while the home was in operation and this exhortation could allow. There remains to be identified and returned to families the sisters of secure, issued an apology in January that red in part quote, we failed to respect the inherent dignity of the women and children who came, the home in another exclamation. That also connects to other episodes of our show. Officials in Oklahoma hope to start an exclamation of a mass grave connected to the nineteen twenty one Tulsa massacre on first of this year, and that would align with the massacres hundredth anniversary the site to be exhumed was identified at Oaklawn Cemetery in October and at the time they found evidence of twelve burials there. Funeral home records document, eighteen black men being buried there, but it's possible that this mass grave contains the bodies of as many as thirty people? There are still a lot of details to work out with this a licensed funeral

sector has to oversee the work, which requires a formal plan submitted to the Oklahoma State Department of Health and, although it's possible, that any any remains that are found be reinsured at Oakland Cemetery. This would likely be temporary to give the Physical Investigation Committee time to decide on an appropriate permanent resting place for them. Yeah. There were obvious concerns about the idea that they may go through this exclamation try to learn more about these people and then, like re, bury them in the same cemetery where they had been buried in a mass grave earlier. So the idea is that this would just be while, while they're trying to find a better final resting place in our last exclamation as time the internet,

the committee of the Red Cross has announced a plan to exude and identify the remains of urgent team soldiers who were killed during the nineteen. Eighty two Falklands war and are now buried in the Falkland Islands and twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. The Red cross, undertook a similar mission that resulted in the exclamations of a hundred and twenty two Argentines, one hundred and fifteen of whom were identified through dna testing. There are still two hundred and thirty six argentine soldiers buried on EAST falls and as the final note as we wrap up this installment of unearthed, the vile used to administer the first Pfizer Biotech Covid nineteen vaccine in the. U S has been entered into the collection of the Smithsonian, along with a vaccination card and scrubs belonging to Sandra Lindsey. Who was the first person in the US to receive

the vaccine, Lindsey immigrated to the? U S from Jamaica about thirty years ago, and she received the vaccine while working as an intensive care nurse and director of critical care nursing at long island. Jewish medical center, Dr Michelle Chester, administered Lindsey's first do to the vaccine on December fourteen TH, two thousand and twenty, and it was live streamed during a news conference. Doktor, Anthony Foundry, director of the Institute of Allergy and infectious diseases at the National Institutes of Health has donated his purse three d model of the Covid nineteen virus to the Smithsonian as well. That model was made with a three d printer at the National Institutes of Health and found used. It is a visual aid when explaining the virus and its spike proteins that as much of an unearth desert thing, that's you know now his capturing yeah have you captured some

good list or mail for this round. I do it is from Kristen and Kirsten, says hi, Holly and Tracy. I was very happy to hear your episode on the rum rebellion. I've always thought it was a fascinating part of australian history and I actually suggested as a topic to you a few years ago. So I'm glad you got to it even if Ian got the credit, it's totally possible. Kristen is one of the many people who sent an email that made me go. Didn't we do that already, when we in fact had not, this email goes on to say, I thought you may be interested to know that a descendant of William Bly by the name of Anna Bly became the first female premiere of Queensland and two thousand and seven and held the position until two thousand and twelve. Unlike William, she did not face a coup and was not known for a verbal abuse. I love your podcast and hope you continue to cover the odd bit of australian history, Kirsten included some suggestions for topics and then said, keep safe over there in the US.

Yeah, I have some envy about Australia's Covid response, so thanks thanks Kristen thanks for this. I had no idea about this connection. I didn't I had obviously not really heard of Anna Bly before because I don't live in Austria. But did not know that William by had to send him to him in more modern times, become part of the government in Australia. So thank you so much for this note, thanks to everyone who sends us email. If you would like to send us email we're at history Catherine, I hooray Yoda Comp were all over social media had missed in history and that's real thunder facebook. Twitter, Pinterest and Instagram, and you can subscribe to our show on thy heart radio at Apple podcast than anywhere else. Stuff, you missed in history class, is the production of I heart, radio for more podcasts from I heart radio

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