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a sixty year, color line and he went on to be a star, but he was not that huge sums you think of the Negro Leagues and the integration of baseball you're. Probably thinking of Jackie Robinson, or at least sarah- and I were he- was the first to break ability to withstand the inevitable racial slurs. He was safe public faith for the integration of baseball, the bill, when he joined the Brooklyn Dodgers and nineteen forty seven. He was young and he was chosen for his promise, but also for natural page, and she had been working in these subtle ways to integrate baseball decades before Robinson with ever signed, and he played with and again some of the most talented players in baseball white and black. He entertained. people across the country any eventually earn one of the higher salaries in baseball, but because of this unspoken, segregation of the major leagues, he doesn't become a big leaguer until he's forty two years old, which makes him the oldest rookie in history. So let's get started on this career because his prime seasons were spent before

people across the country any eventually earn one of the higher salaries in baseball, but because of this unspoken, throw out you at least labor metric. We don't have the favor metrics, but a few to get us started. He was reputed to have pitched two thousand five hundred games during his career. He won two thousand of them so think about that for a second and he pitched fifty five, no hitters by his own estimate, which is pretty impressive, insane, absolutely insane. So. Consequently, some to throw out your labour metric. We don't have a favor metrics, but a few to get a started. He was reputed to have pitched two thousand five hundred games during his career. He won two thousand of them so think about that for a second and he pitched fifty five we like to say, come from a fresh air interview with author Larry TI, who wrote a book called Sachel the life and times of an american legend, if you'd like to pick it up yeah, so we're going to start at the beginning, satchel is born July. Seventh, nineteen o six and Mobile Alabama, as we like to say I come from a fresh air interview with author Leary Tie, who wrote a book called satchel the life in times of an american legend. If you'd like to big, though we're gonna start at the back, change their name to page with an eye in the middle from page,

no eye, because he said it made them sound. More high, toned mom thought it looked much like a page in a book. I think so he's the seven twelve kids and because his father isn't really a major presence in their life. The children learn early on that they're gonna be poor and they have to earn where they can and will just wondering that he does appreciate from his father. He gets his approval to be a baseball player even as a kid. Instead of a landscape her, this is something that his mom never approves of. No, she said that she thought baseball was sent in always plan and never workin dad twelve kids and because his father isn't really a major presence in their life. The children learn early on that they're gonna be poor and they have to earn where they can and will just wondering that he does appreciate from his father. He gets his approval to be a baseball player, even as a kid instead of a landscape her. This is something that his mom never approves of. No, she said that she thought baseball was sent in always plan and never workin dad

outline she's, a young satchel, has a knack for hurling things and not just today, but it's true. He could throw rock or a break and take down a chicken or a squirrel at tremendous speed. Any can also hit kids the system of police and broke, so he can carry multiple bags and make more money. And his friends tell him that you look like a walking satchel tree so that we get this nickname, and this is one of my favorite Kurtz, out lion. She says young satchel has an act for hurling things and not just be the, but it's true he could throw rock or a brick and take down a chicken or a squirrel at tremendous speed. Any can also hit kids faced with a rival gangs of kid than he would site out. His his opponent and they couldn't move she'd nail him with a rock or whatever he was throwing, but in his youth the turn to petty crime and was sent to reform school. The Alabama school juvenile negro law breakers and the school is set up along the Booker tea model of Negro Self help. So they work hard. And they also do athletics, which is a lot like Babe Ruth

was telling me earlier that he also went to reform school and that's where he learned how to play, and this ends up being a good thing for sachel. He has a coach who recognizes his ability and he leaves the school with I was tiny earlier that he also went to reform school and that's where he learned how to play with tiny earlier that he also went her from school and that's where he learned how to play in this and that being a good thing for satchel. He is a coach. You recognizes this ability and he leaves the school pro black team. He gets the job, sending him ten fast balls, and that's it he's one of how I got my job here at how stuff works. Knowing story, he joined the Negro leagues in nineteen, twenty six for the Chattanooga Black lookouts and he pitched for a bunch of teams in both a Negro Southern Association and the Negro National League, the Birmingham Black Barons, the Baltimore black Socks, the Cleveland, Cubs Pittsburgh, Crawford Kansas City, monarchs the New York, black Yankees and the Memphis Red Sox. His career really kind of takes off with the Crawford's,

sending him ten vast falls and that that you ve got my job here at Helstone for moving story. He joined the Negro leagues and nineteen twenty six for the Chad, a new car black look out, and he pitched for a bunch of teams in both the negroes Southern Association and the Negro National League. The Birmingham Black Barons, the Baltimore Black Fox, the Cleveland Cubs Pittsburgh Crawford. Kansas City, monarchs, the New York Black Yankees and the Memphis Red Sox. His career really kind of takes off with the Crawford's we're ball players as far back as the nineteenth century, but Rube Foster is the We knew very much about them before and now I definitely so. There actually proof functioning Nego League together in the nineteen twenties, and he actually dreams of having this black major league. That would play the best of the White Big League clubs and they come together in functioning negro leagued together in the nineteen twenty than he actually dreams of having this black major league. That would play the best of the White Big League clubs and aid. Some major financial instability in the leagues, but by world war, two Negro baseball was a two million dollar a year industry. Journeyman players are making about four hundred dollars a month, but someone who's a star like sacral page. You could get one thousand dollars a month, but it's a little more

than that yeah, the black players are playing a lot of games like up to one hundred and fifty games in a season and they're working all negro baseball was eight two million dollars a year industry. Journeymen players are making about four hundred dollars a month, but someone who's a star like satchel page, could get a thousand dollars a month, but there's little more in that year. The black players are playing a lot of games like up to a hundred and fifty games in a season and their working all you pretty much most of them their having to go out and barring storm, which is something that we're gonna talk about later. But I Other major mention is right, but the majority of these guys games are actually against white or Non League team, so playing outside that their own league and new colleague ball games where a huge part of the social life of black Americans at the time, people with dress up and Guess games run Sunday afternoon, so a lot of people would just go after charge according to tie the men we mentioned earlier, her at the book on Sacho page ministers small games where a huge part of the social life of black Americans at the time, people with dress up and

guess games run Sunday afternoon, so alot of people would just go after church according to tie the men we mentioned earlier her at the book on Sacho page ministers. And he's a real showman too. In addition to being a great baseball player in that part of the job for a meager league player, you have to be showy enough to attract a white audience as well as a black audience and to disarm them enough so that that they're willing watch you and he was good at it. One of his little tricks he'd like to do before the game. He'd set up some teeny tiny object like a matchbook on the home plate, and then he proceeded to throw pitches right over the plate. Dick uselessly fast fishes, so the fans we go completely crazy in the opponents would think. What did I get myself until you can just imagine sitting there watching this guy war? Martin? Basically, an author shuffle there's six foot watch you and he was good at one of her little tricks. He liked to do before the game. He'd set up. Some teeny tiny object like a match book on the home plate, and then he proceeded to throw pitches right over the play.

Dickie Leslie fast fishes, so the fans we go completely crazy in the opponents would think. What did I get myself until you can just imagine sitting there watching this guy war? Martin? Basically an author shuffle this sixth I have a crazy wind up. Sometimes he did a single, a double or a triple windmill before he threw, and he did this high kick when he sling shot the ball forward There are a bunch of pictures of if you do like a Google image search for spatial page you're, probably going to find this picture of him with his foot about up to his face did have a crazy wind up. Sometimes he did a single, a double or a triple windmill before he threw, and he did this high kick when he slingshot the ball forward. there are about your pictures is, if you do like a Google image search for satchel page, your pollyanna find this picture of him with his foot about up to it, Catchers say that they're all really the same pitch is he's, got a fast pitch and he has a really fast pitch She had a nightmare pitch which he says he dreamt up in a nightmare. He has the long time in the little time of its money, no radar guns, but he people think he pictured about a hundred two hundred and five miles per hour, so

to the barn storming we mentioned earlier. He pitched in speak Sunday match, but but during the he he did barnstorming, which was basically playing in any small town that would pay em. He traveled as many thirty thousand miles a year and sometimes he's going up against semi proteins, white black, whatever sometimes just country boys, who have together their money and they want to play against a great baseball player in the winter. He goes to the Dominican Republic into the mexican leaks to play, and some is good. His satchel could even work out special deals. Where say he pitched one in together their money and they want to play against a great baseball player in the winter. He goes to the Dominican Republic into the mexican leaks to play and some anything. He hurried, satchel, pitched ever three innings for a team, either black or white as a guest are here, but the cat, Thinking about today, you'll see a pitch

after he's done a few innings with ice on his shoulder in the locker room, and then he goes on rest for a while, but this guy is out there pitching every single day and he just gets better and better, but the storming can be a little scary, especially in the Jim Crow South, because a year after he's done a few anything with ice on his shoulder in the locker room, and then he goes on rest for a while, but the skies other pitching every single day any just gets better and better, but the there is no game unless he had somewhere to sleep and eat afterward, which you know fair enough. Basically, like we're not going to play baseball with you and then risk getting driven out of town of us You never know what's going to happen to sexual did have some conditions for when he was born store There was no game unless he had somewhere to sleep and eat afterward, which you know fair enough. Basically, like we're not going to play baseball with you and then risk getting driven out of town of us, one thing, he would also do- and sometimes this was just to show team or audience how good he really was, but oftentimes happened after a racial slur, but he would dismiss his fielders

in the middle of a game with loaded basis, he would dismisses fielders and sometimes he just bringing the outfield it. So if you if you hit a into the outfield you'd, have an automatic home run and they just sit around. Tending to play poker within fielders, sometimes he'd bringing all of his guilders, send them all. You know off, and he do this against big league people till night. second rate opponents who's, trying to even the playing field a little. This was against legit tending to play poker with envy others. Sometimes he'd bringing all of his elder, send them all. You know off, and he do this against Big League people to not that all of this barn storming part of it was exposing white audiences to black players and maybe perhaps making some of them a little more open minded about the idea of an integrated lead yeah. This is definitely paving the way for the ultimate integration of baseball. Played in a lot of places where there were practically no black people at all, like in Bismarck North Dakota. He actually.

but all of this barnstorming part of it was exposing white audiences to black players and maybe perhaps making some of them a little more open minded about the idea of an integrated Lee yeah. This is definitely paving the way for the ultimate integration, a baseball. Played on a lot of places where they were practically no black people at all. Like an Bismarck North Dakota yeah, he actually before its integrated in the majors, and it's almost a task to you know like what is integrated baseball field look like and it it looks, good I shall become big Stein Bismarck after a few games, you know he's not ultimately welcome their bet. It ends up work before its integrated in the majors, and it's almost a task to you know what is the integrated they fulfil look like and it it looks good Putin grows. He starts collaborating with some white major leagues, who are also Barton storming. He teams up with dizzy dean for a while, because they both know that they'll make money from people who want to see the greatest of the great face off, but also from people who just want to see subtle- and this of course changes opinions with some white players to if you play with someone, and you get to know them. You might come to respect them a little more, and this happens with dizzy. He actually says stuff like a face,

and up together with clenched the planet by the fourth of July. We go fishing until the world theory, so this is a guy who comes to respect someone who is here. We didn't have converted. Little boy and these matches prove that satchel is just as good as anybody else. He struck out Rogers Hornsby five times and one game nineteen, thirty four game that went into thirteen innings with dizzy dean. He got a one victory amazing stuff. He made a lot of money to factual does by nineteen. Forty he's making forty thousand dollars a year and according to hi, that's four times what the Yankees were making, which I thoroughly approve of. Yes, it's exactly what democracy I was making and its twice what TED Williams was making and he lives. It up to he's, got a closet just for his shoes for for his suit he's got

the car is fifteen. Shot, guns and cameras he's living the good life here, but he has to work year round and pitch, we single night and he doesn't get a winter break. So you know after storming with these great white players. He sees them go off to the big leagues, but he can't So sarah- and I were saying earlier: how hard would it be to watch dementia go on to great fame and you're still stuck where you are well. You know you're just as good as them and you should be playing with them, would be so frustrating but the segregation of baseball is coming to an end by the war or managers of white teams are starting to consider bringing in the black players. Some of it is to show the Red Sox hold. These ridiculous can a fake trials in nineteen forty and we do have the Red Sox, but this is not a good period of history for them at that summit. There's really are serious about it by night,

five, the Brooklyn Dodgers President general manager, Branch Ricky, has put into motion the secret plan to sign an african american player and he, of course, fines and signs Jackie Robinson October, twenty third nineteen, forty five at the time was the first year short start for the Kansas City monarchs the black team. Obviously Robinson stands forty six season in the miners before he's promoted to the Dodgers in eighteen, forty seven. So, The question here is: why wasn't it satchel, who was huge star who broke the color barrier, whether a few reasons to start was old or on the older side, for starting baseball player and the year Ricky is hunting for this person. He wasn't having a great year. He was also expensive. He never would have conceded to starting in the miners like Jackie dead and he's really unpredictable. He says things Craig

things and puts on these shows and he's a bit too much of a loose cannon for the people who want someone. You know who will be very correct in front of the camera. So thoughtful gives a real pc answer. When Robinson starts, and he says they couldn't picked a better man than Jackie, but later He does show a little injury from from this decision and he says that he should have been signed first He was the one who is seriously integrating baseball even back in the day in thirty and said that it killed something inside them: nothing pact, and Jackie Robinson wasn't very sympathetic to his plight. In his mind, satchel was from a different era. He was unpredictable. He lived to access, he just wasn't the kind of man that Jackie Robinson wanted to be. I actually think this is one of the sadder aspects story and that one of the factors sides segregated baseball,

is that you should have these two men on the same side? You know you imagine if they played today, it would be a situation where Jackie, rather than coming up with in my someone like satchel, page and hope to play within some day, but instead you just have these guys, who are I rapidly different from each other central does and up and the big leaks, though he signed to the Cleveland, Indians and nineteen forty by build back when he is forty two, but he's introduced pretty slowly and carefully. Since he is old and people are skeptical about him. I think back be just pulling a publicity done yeah is used as relief six times before he starts. But when he does start, the team beats the Washington senators five to three, which he follows up with to shut out any health Indians get to the panel and they win the series that year and satchel has the sex. Best era in American League, and he gets twelve votes for a rookie of the year, which I I love that. How could you not vote for amendment failure of

a year later, though, Bill back loses his controlling interest in the Indians and satchels like go, but he joined began with back later, when he buys the Saint Louis Brown too, to data two more Orioles and he's a relief it you're through nineteen fifty three in a pretty good one? He makes into the major league, all starting in fifty two and fifty three and after fifty three his release them goes on to play in the miners. Again, barn storms even appears with the Harlem Globetrotters, as aghast at he comes back briefly and nineteen sixty five or one game with the Kansas City Afflux and he really hands up he's, got a rocking chair in the bowl pad and nerves the attending to him in TAT, but he pitches three score, listened angle, which makes him the oldest person to pitch. In the majors at fifty nine, so I think this is a classic satchel here, a kind of hammering

but ultimately he has the goods to back in yeah. You can back it up at the end. He calls this game. the end of his hundred year, career in baseball, which I also think is funny so later brought in briefly as a pitching coach for the Atlanta Braves nineteen sixty nine, but the owner of the Braves was giving him a favor He needed one more year to qualify for his pension. So he didn't really do much. Village encourage beyond the owner of the wanted to draw up a little support for the Braves. They just move to Atlanta and satchels, a big name, obviously fashion inducted into the Hall of Fame and nineteen seventy one, and this makes them the first place make the whole based on his Negro league record, and there was some dispute over this because you know satchel got a good major league baseball record, but not very long, and it's not the kind of thing that's going to get you in the whole fame. It's obviously his previous experience that was

Qualify as a great baseball player, but the home again. he says you know, ok documents believed, but put him in a different hall, a different place new and there a huge outcry over people do not want a segregated hall of fame. After decades of seated baseball, now and when he is inducted in same there as everyone has. He said it was the proudest moment of his life, is Real dream, though, is to become a manager after his playing days were over here, and he even says in his Hall of Fame speech that he's ready, he's ready to manage and he put a good. He had an amazing memory for batting stare. He went the player when he was shown pictures of unidentified players just chest down no faces shown here:

recognize, most of them just from just from their batting stance, but no one takes some up on this whole manager thing, and so, instead, he goes on to other thing. He's, got seven kids in middle age with a second wife, so he's got a family to support and he try. Some jobs. He runs for public office and is briefly a deputy sheriff. But again he knows that pitching is what he's good at it's. What he's meant to do? just works for anyone who hire him he's still barnstorming, and this is where it gets a little sought are you know you have this increasing elderly guy he's out there barnstorming always on the road, but he did gifts famous five, how to stay young, and most of it, is just funny like avoid fried meat which angry at the blood kidding, I have actually been posting these these on our twitter page, the sleek. Yes, if you'd like to find a threat missed in history, there are a whole bunch of them, but

That was something he didn't even appear to him. He would actually cook catfish on a common stove like in his room and when he was finally in the major league. His room couldn't stand being in the room with them because of these weird smells and scary, cooking Brad as he had. I think we all had that experience in the dorm stated that he is most famous for his final tat, which was dont. Look back. Somebody might be gaining on you in such a way. Dies June, eighth Can any two of heart trouble and emphysema, but we, wrap up the Niger Leagues too, because that's what starts this whole story and integration is obviously the beginning of the end, because black then start focus on black players playing in the major leagues and the young. Talented players like Willy Mayes and Hank Aaron sign onto of Major league teams, so it's essentially over by nineteen forty eight, but not a fish

over until nineteen sixty. Although the Indian ATLAS, clowns with him. Aaron made his debut continued barnstorming through nations, That brings us to the question that we started. This was page the greatest pitcher in history, and we have one person who definitely think so and that's Joe Dimaggio, and he said that satchel was the best I've ever faced and the fastest. So I think we're gonna, Close it out with tears were there, but if you have an opinion he like trees. You know ass history, podcasting, how stuff works com and if you ve, got to learn a little bit more about baseball statistics, that sort of goodness search for House Sabre metrics works at W W W Dot, housetop works, dot com,

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