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Its morning edition upward, illustrate the Indiana Jones chronicles he's in this article. Many can't do archaeology. Without talking about any jobs because he can't spell it without India. And you know why, because, as is article points out archaeologist or one port, explore one part scholar, one part B, T forum, one part of the skin, One far scientists and one part historian, which is true, and that is exactly who, in the end a John was oh yeah plus he knew his way around a weapon again well into the arc of the cabinet unit. The whip a couple did right, let's put Steven Spielberg says at least I know you got that across quite plainly, yet the way things

there has need for back I'll, though he never with a cigarette out of somebody's mouth, without waiting for it like the whole movie, how this partner trick yeah? Well, it's pretty, it is very go: did you have an interest in a spoiled? It now is getting insurers? Any great, you know mean archaeology. Does. The first word I could spell: was it really, Let me take you back those first big word. I could set out our Sarah had like dog and in TAT. Down. First, the epidemic being in second or third grade and spelling in the teacher being like. While knows I care that Europe Guess I'm young and I can spell archaeology correctly and she's a guess, the reason. Why could spell it

because I had already been studying it for years. I've always been fascinated by archaeology. Yeah could have seen you doing this for a living. My body Jerry out Portland Jerry's, both of our body different Jerry, Jerry in Portland Male Jerry, I gotta is Jerry Purpose, is a here. You go, that's why we had last night. He was a history and I think Anthropology major too, and want to get the archaeology salvos disciplines like it's a science that is heavily, but it up against the humanities is pretty well it's

of absorb them kind of like some early bacteria absorbed. Might a country and used it for itself the hour while here? That's it very much in that vein, like archaeology started out as a very straightforward, simplistic discipline and at one point finally, the archaeologists got bored. They said this. This can be so much more in the expanded, watchful talk about. We get in the history of archaeology, but just the the word itself. It does definitely conjure Indiana Jones, and he was one part this one part that ness archaeology, sorry, that but the entire pursuit of archaeology so unwieldy, there's so much to it. Yeah documenting all human industry from the very recent past to the farthest reaches in human history that the

feel this broken into a lot of different disciplines and even those are broken further into sub disciplines. So much so that, like, if you take a forensic archaeologist and put it up against the glacial archaeologists, you'll be like these to really the same in the same field. They are, but they defiling. You might not have a lot to talk about. You know about that ice. Bring success one. How about that great site? I have no idea of stocking where I'm crazy either also broken into geographical areas times are like time periods yearly, You worry mesopotamian ideologists letter, specialty grass, and that makes sense. Others underwater archaeologist, which I think I wrote a few of these articles back then. I think I did want an underwater archaeology too. So interesting. We didn't touch on, but that super interesting, because the trick with archaeology is

innovation digging their the shovel. Unlike pick up the vase like in the movie and shake it see, what's inside more technical than that and with underwater archaeology and other stuff is so fragile, yet transported in the exact state that it was in so like. If you find a book down there, you have to put that book in a tank of salt water at the right temperature a book. Well, yes, sir, well. You know I myself have been down their thousand because about, but I have this stopwatch. Only titanic yeah pocket watch sure you have transported an attack of salt water at the temperature with the right amount of sand to where we were gonna. Take it to your laboratory, essentially and then put on it.

Expensive exhibit. Yes, exactly an underwater archaeology isn't necessarily to stuffy that sunk, although it that part is so fascinating, like things that are supposed to be above water bitterness emerged, is taken a whole different attitude to me: yeah yeah, waterlogged, but there's other other, order archaeology to that that goes beyond shipwrecks like they recently found in nine thousand year old hunting blind in Lake Huron Mud it used to be above water, nine after the ice age, the water levels Rosen it up and they recently discovered it under a hundred and twenty one feet of water in a basically consists of some lanes of stone with a cul de sac, while yeah that they were kind of use to shoot the Cariboo through and then at the end there, like the cavalier, like ah called the second then death while yet, but the wreck

nice this year and then documented it under a hundred and twenty feet of water and like here on that sounds like it perhaps could have been an accidental find. Do you know I don't know how you get out there that I don't I don't know yet, but the idea that you could look at some rocks and be like ourselves the hunting blind forty nine thousand years ago used to hunt caribou under water. They just seems really special to me. There is very good, but I mention accidental fund

This is one of the neat things about archaeology. If you're not Ya'Ll, just clearly, you are going to be have been your bonnet to go, find whatever it is argued a cabinet. There's things found all the time just by people who stumble upon him. Accidental finds yeah, because there's this junk everywhere, like the M cave paintings at less courier, I wanna say junk. I mean that any like stuff way in academic sent here that worthless is all great stuff, but the less go cave in France was discovered accidentally by some local teens, patently there's a store,

the tree, fell over and expose this cave entrance that had been covered for thousands and thousands of years, yet the dead sea scrolls there was an accident, a nineteen, forty, seven bedouin shepherd found them said Haiti's. These are important, but of nineteen. Forty four little french schoolboys faceless go. I was Alice, Gov yeah! Ok, I don't know why she didn't put it in the article yeah that, as we are she looked up at one word: priceless go back a little bit and talk about how the stuff I started, because in the inner twelve thirteen fourteen centuries, people really weren't you concerned about the past. All that's not true! They were looking for. The facts are necessarily or if they were looking for artifacts, they were just deluding it and selling it, maybe melting it down for its culture, like that, the artifact itself didn't necessarily have any vow you simply because it was old here. That's a good ways that came about

as a result of the rise of humanism yeah, which gave rise to the humanities, which basically prized art sake and gave birth to the concept that antiquities have value because of their age. The the renaissance. Basically, it was worth from the renaissance, theirs name flywheel beyond, though that was my clumsy and you, let us great say it again. Love you ve, earned it so easy good energy into it, and then your italian yeah, I think that's. My problem is unfairly Loki Yasser anyway,

YO beyond all was the first person to create a guide to the ruins of ancient Rome in the early fifteenth century. A lot of people say that is the first person you can point to who gave rise to archaeology, potentially instead. Basically, these things that we find, maybe we shouldn't melt down here. They wish to preserve them in this is sort of an important thing for the future. Exactly right, so he was one of the first and then from that point on the idea of collecting year things candidate, hold, and it was a little not so for a while and people just go into, there was no. There is no aim to preserve the site itself. You just wanted all the artifact from the site, so you could fill your palace with them yet, and I get the sense of those Only a boom in the renaissance, in among royalty of wanting things for major

Greece and Rome in another queen of Naples, wanted you know agent, statues and things to fill her Palestine you know trying to find out what happened with Pompey Hercules yeah, that's that's why they were excavated in seventeen. Forty eight was after it there's and palm pay is really neat by the way, but all of the artist. It's totally deserted everything that there is a permanent structure. I really all the artifacts have been removed and are still in Naples where they were taken in seventeen. Forty eight, yeah and we'll get a little bit later on and the like. Who answers stuff. That's pretty interesting yeah, but Poland was a big proponent of archaeology and I know it to turn the king TAT term episode about Egyptology and he formed the Institute of Egypt, basically a think tank in the late, seventeen hundreds of a hundred seventy five scholars and

There was just that fascination with Egypt and the pony was all over it for this think tank and said, go find stuff right and like collected for me and they published a book to that really kind of loosed archaeology. And the idea of archaeology on the world is called description of Egypt that they published in eighteen. Oh nine, such a bland title. It was, but it like created Egypt fever, and so that came out in eighteen, oh nine. In eighteen, twelve A british gaining Richard COLT Whore Otto our E. He wrote a book called ancient history of well sure if in eighteen, twelve and basically he described methods for excavating methodically, he also was the first you identify what are called tells, which are mounds ancient mounds, of basically a city being built on a city on the city and Lydia that they ve been continuously occupy for thousands and thousands of years, and then you know

ass. The early archaeologists Harrison Ford early, than him, Gunnar Thomas Jefferson. Oh really yet, and surprise me in the eighteenth century, radiating thoroughly nineteenth century. He would methodically excavating burial mounds on mine, to tell on his land, and am I to tell her and between rewriting the Bible, a lot of stuff here but yeah. He was one of the early wants to methodically. Do so, there's like all this enthusiasm for antiquities and basically, what amounts to looting and grave robbing it simultaneously. There's these independent gentlemen scholars who are amateurs there is no academic field yet who are creating the that? Basically, the body of experimental archaeology, how to do it? The methodology, the

practices yeah in the nineteenth century, a guy named Charles. I am basically started. We called it. You know uniform Tyrian Strata, Graphic and which is actually pretty big hornets nest is it well. I looked in into the uniform materialism period and write. The whole thing is, but what is added with dating owes a dating system, yet it basically before then there is this thing called kid test or physical were. Basically, it was like the earth is static and it changes only in the face of major catastrophes right like a comet strike, or some is the only thing that changes the earth itself here a unit,

humanitarian strata. Yeah graffiti basically says now, that's not the case, and it gave us. What we now understand is geological processes. Geological timescales, Gray basically said the earth change is constantly, but our lifespan is so short. We can't possibly witness it right, but if you look at this, the processes that take place now are the processes that the earth has always been subjected to interest, and so one of those processes sediment sediment deposits here and you can date things thanks to sediment deposits, because there actually predictable thing. So when you're digging in two sediment right digging into the past- and you can do something- you find that sentiment that basically, what gave archaeology digging into history yeah, that's something in the idea that you can date from layers of ground here that he said sounds easy now or not is rather, it makes sense now, but back then it was pretty red Reich lingered! That's our world view now here, but this is one of the guys who introduce

Charles LEO via our hats, off the user in eating come up with it, but he was a huge proponent of it, who gained a lot of traction with it. You're talking about methods in Flanders, Flanders, Petrie Boy, what a great name in nineteen o wrote a book called methods and aims and archaeology that was won the first ones to sort of breakdown had it responsibly, excavate the site, yeah, I'm not just to go in there and looted, and there was a big turning point that the twentieth century, the turn of the century. Here, as the thin DC echo, I think, is what it's called area yeah. That was a huge turning point in our key ology really represented the win methodology took hold like there's a guy named, Heinrich Schliemann Yahoo discovered, Troy basically, and he just pay.

We went in inserted tearing through the sediment and he identified a bunch of different layers of occupation, but he didn't really document unlikely should. Fortunately, he had emphasis name Wilhelm Thorpe felt he had and he candid took a different approach to a much more methodical approach and all of this too sit around the same time, so they even on the site of Troy. This change from pillaging to methodology took place. Yeah, they probably get tired of hearing their workers say work. You know that guy or maybe should slowdown it perhaps be a little more judicious with the shovel Grech dating old things is a big of our key algae. It's no good just to find something you want to know exactly where it came from, because, while one reason- because it has more value- if it's over that those probably what led the date

charge, but there's a bunch of different ways. They can date and they have over the years. Something can be self stated. If you find treasure that's stamped with a date, then it's done for you a relative dating. If you find something that's with a bunch of other stuff that you can date, then you can probably say you know the stuff from King TAT. Scam is probably all around the same time period right, clay, barf, counting, and that is counting farms, which are little laminated sediments, did accumulate in that can help out for about five thousand years back. No, it can go even further than I really here. How far, but I mean it you want to go in the sediment, really that's The uniform material strategy aggravate allows misreading, I'm sorry

they are written chronology, lingers back that those rights are usually so they like yeah yeah. I then the idea we reading give the winning pay proper, almost two Darwin, because his whole show on right, but in this one, the and the origin of species, that presented the idea that mankind, history that went back way further than thousand years here and that kind of inspired the ideology. To look around for more right. Some of the more recent ones which we could probably do shows on a couple of these carbon dating radioactive carbon dating potassium argon, dating in Thermo Luminescence, that measures white energy, the intensity of white energy, yea amazing, you can calculate the last time in object was exposed the sunlight threes through another, medicine stating their worth potassium, argon dating you can do things back.

Two million years if you believe the earth than around. So there is a lot more about the history of archaeology feel indulge me please. So methodology took place in the early twentieth century. It became about that time in academic discipline. Funny enough, they didn't start applying the scientific method, the archaeology necessarily until the fifty. Sixty flood yeah, that's we arm, but it had its own method and the method among archaeologists was you fine and artifact you dated and you catalogue it yeah archeologists job was to date in catalogue and ultimately contribute to this growing body

of knowledge, that was the Thai mine of human history and preserve, obviously right now, but it was like these tools are older than this tool. Right means that the people who made these tools were the predecessors of the people who made these tools yeah, that was, it archaeologist, got bored in the fifties and they said or explaining how these these rules have progressed or human industry has progressed, but not why bright right when they decided star answering why archaeology became a far more interesting field. It became a multi disciplinary, field in all the sudden, they're bringing in experts in ceramics experts in men, gee right in anger.

Being all these people from different fields and saying. How can we answer why this changed? What led to what change and archaeology? At that point and about the fifty or sixty became the very far flung wide spread, all encompassing discipline that it is today, that's awesome, yeah. So, with help with a little help from their friends from the expert friends, I guess what can talk right if this message break a little bit about How things start off if you want to get something. New year's resolutions are very, very difficult to keep. More exercise, save more money. What about this? We have a resolution that you can really work with. Stop wasting time going to the post office that right, you stamps dot com instead because they bring all the services of the. U S: postal service, right to your computer, with your small business, sinning invoice.

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ok body, we're back field. Work is a word that you're gonna hear knock your archaeology lot and, depending on how you talk to it might entail the whole process or just out in the field like at the actual excavation, but I think most folks nowadays consider field work. The excavation and all the pre work ammunition. Lotteries hurts it goes into it beforehand, right in offices and schoolrooms and libraries. And what have you yet? I think it's either all its everything, including excavation or tell the Sith ITALY's up the excavation yet is considered fieldwork right. I would call predict activity, that's what I would go with that you going so excavation feel worker two different things for you sure, ok opening up my own archaeological firm? That would be my model here. It seems to be really there's not a big deal come with it either so

You were when you do find something like you said, there's a couple of different ways. Things can be found. They can be determined doggedly sought after which can be part of the field work going through. Yes, So a library looking for references in ancient literature, sure and this kind of trying to figure out where something might be. Let's, which Schliemann did with boy. He read the of the Iliad I believe which described charging Moura and said, look for clues! Yes, here any in that's when he was like, I'm pretty sure they were troikas yet you're like a sort of a history detective at that point, exactly which is Indiana Jones. After that you may have to go its and permits for permits and your also gonna wanna go get a grant because you're probably not going to find this out of your own pocket. Unless you somewhere

like James Cameron, her when I ran out of now, but grants can come from rich people who may want some of them. Or maybe a museum wants the pony up some money if they really want a certain exhibit in their me, in bright or university that you work for should underwrite some of it. Yet, but you get yours, you get your finding. You got your grad student assistance, maybe it It can be a really big dig. You put a flyer up at the local senior centre, see if anybody wants to come help during The elderly will be good diggers. Now know they would be often diggers inheres. Why

It takes a lot of patience to excavate aside when you excavators site, you are basically according it off and by the way we ve looked at a really important point here: there's something called geophysical prospecting yet, which basically uses some pretty incredible devices that measure differences in electromagnetism or electric connectivity in the ground, yes, and then basically gives you a pretty picture back saying here, something that's not rock. Secondly, advance. Super events, metal, detector, basically here but it can also detect other really new want stuff like paint yet in everything. Tat guides disputes that so you united, you may have read a book that says. I think that this ancient site is here right, but then you know

start cutting off in digging. You do a survey of the site to look for stuff. Yes, it is likely that it might still be right. That's a huge step that if you miss your a terrible archaeologist right, so I'm sorry we let put out now that you ve got a beastly in subterranean map of the site. Here you coordinate off, and you start digging usually by meter and when you digging by meter you literally remove just one. The lawyer of that square metre everytime you, because we we'd said earlier. Preservation is key and they were reckon things early on when we do not break things to go. Super super slow super slightly. Just a little bit it time yet in everyone has seen the footage of archaeology

on their hands and knees, blowing things with little by little brushes and it is that meticulous guess might derive some people crazy. It certainly would like construction worker guy probably doesn't want to be on an archaeological, Dick. No That's funny bring that up, because construction worker guys often find themselves in the midst of an archaeological dig sure construction the yields a lot of archaeological evidence lakefront it's in Miami. Recently they came across a tooth. In your old indian settlement allow either to request the Indians had a little spot in the mill. Of what's gonna, be a downturn in Miami like their newest development area in the developers like finds, take some pictures and let's get on with it. The locals are like me, though. We need to preserve this better, so they're trying to figure it out.

The half his lot member. When we talked about the huge tunnel underwater tunnel, they dug in Turkey area it during construction of that they ran into an ancient say today, to bring in archaeologists. That's what I call the rescue excavation where it's going to be totally destroyed. By a group of people who really could care less one way or another. We happen to these artifacts, yet in the name of continued industry. So the archaeologists comes in documents, everything the placement all that stuff dated and in that way, where is document from the excavation that becomes the primary source for everybody else to follow yet by excavating you're destroying inherently yes in each state in the United States has their own state archaeologists. If you gotta do a construct,

project in Rome. Let's say get ready for patients, because when you, when you're trying to build something in Rome, think they give out about thirteen thousand building permits a year, but they require an archaeological evaluation of each one and its some say it. It can cripple progress. Rome give it if you ve ever been around like it. It's easy to appreciate the fact that their doing that yeah sure I mean it's just the city built up against ancient ancient ruin It's really really wonderful. They preserved everything gets need that that's the only place in ITALY, a ban, but I'm as Anita Yahoo is awesome. I think her smiles with was complaining about a dirty. It was like it's been here long debray, I think you know no, it does have the funk of age the whole thing yet still need this kind of

smell at Montreal. Does Montreal smell good. I think modules noted for being pretty clean diversity, the fastidious city. That's what I've heard you never been, Canada, you haven't loop near the border. I've been plenty times yet and hey early early, spoiler maybe going out to Canada. This fall crazy to Vancouver yeah without Vancouver Right up in the near future. We may be coming to do some alive, so there this four men, they're gonna, go nuts. If we don't actually go through with this now that they will remember, ok, working together, so we talk a little bit about the transition from argue from grave robbing to archaeology, looting, archaeological sites in is is still a thing. It didn't go away completely, so each country and each state

in the United States, like everyone has their own waited the other stuff there a lot of archaeological acts that have been passed throughout the world to preserve things and to make sure there not looting going on, but despite all their best efforts, it still happens and trying things like putting up a big sciences. Dig here do not enter the sometimes are more of a welcome invitation. Tat, sometimes Ricky in New York. They do things like environmentally sensitive do not enter so the trying trick. Folks into thinking that you know all you who enter will die. People pay money for artifact still and there is a black market. People pay money for our two facts in those people are very frequently called museums. Well and private collectors alight apparently like dinosaur bones, are super hard right now, Nicholas Cage has one that's has it was. It was known to have been removed

legally from a site that was never officially recognised by basically some this couple. That goes in and like the really good, finding a really dinosaur abundantly, sell em on the black market and apparently he's got a really awesome skull. Of course, it He also has a house in New Orleans. There was this like a torture murder house, in the nineteenth century that this really priestess owned, unlike at his house in your like the sight of blood bath, LAO yeah, he's a we're guy man. I know when he married Patricia cat. He did some crazy, a list of things or maybe she came up with a crazy list of things that he had to do to marry her here and he did

then it was allotted, is like a big stupid, rich person. Treasure hunt like by Ms Gavin. Your heart now were created them like what now I can remember like finding a black rose. All these things that are hard to come by, I gotcha, then he didn't he married or need oyster surface is a happy ending but the black market Jerry back to it. If you're in Peru, they estimate they have lost about eighteen million dollars with artifacts and goods on the smugglers market, and so they their institute of culture. They register that register their historic sites and they require that all the collections are registered. They partnered with international. Full of museums, and basically all these

the National Museum third they're trying to get together to thwart the thriving underground archaeological goods, market, goods, collectible goods, sure, sir, but every citizen son. That brings us to the interesting point who owns the stuff. Here's the thing: saving money with Geico was almost better than playing pick up basketball, because there's always that guy joint your game, ever passes the rock he constantly Rex theories and who completely happy with. Put his hands up and say no foul, no foul with Geico it's easy to switch. Save on car insurance no need Fagin Ankle sprain because you're absolutely exhausted so which in save Geiger it's almost better than sports, that's a good,

question for a very long time. It was museums because they were the ones who sent in professional looters archaeologists. At a time to go in and basically rob a developing country of its antiquaries enriches in his in culture. Basically in a lotta cases, the government in charge of the time was totally complicit like, for example, when Yale seen in Hiram Bingham too much you PETE, you in here came out with a lot of artifacts from it, the peruvian government, totally in on it at the time. I am sure that the high officials were getting tons of kickbacks from Yale for it, but now a days a hundred years later, he'll is giving back it's much. You PETE you artifacts yeah, there's been a big move towards trying to get back thing exactly big.

The peruvian government said wait a minute like were less corrupt than we were for, and this is our cultural heritage, and that belongs to Ok, you fight headed for a hundred years, but there was ours for thousands of years, so give it back dinosaurs much of pity for thousands of years. There are plenty of antiquities that music, the head for a very long time right but really belong to the source country yeah. That's a big sticking point Every country like it. If you want to know who owns and artifact, if you find something, let's say it's gonna, depends on where you are every municipality. Every state every country has their own laws and as far as finders keepers, laws ignore if you're a new Zealand Alot of em are dated by time like if its new

more than a certain age go ahead and keep it it's over than a certain age. I gotta talk to us about it. I've found not all their winter was found. Well, it depends on what country some countries have a date on how old it is, but I think the day is when it was found. Yet certain countries for sure when its found certain it's the age of the object. Digits depends on where you are invited and the date of when it was found, is usually the date that comes after whatever act was passed, yeah. Exactly though in New Zealand for example, if you found something prior to nineteen, seventy six, which is when the antiquities after nineteen seventy five came into effect. Here you get to keep whatever you find right right. If you found it after nineteen, seventy six, then you have to I d- have to alert the local authorities right you're in Sweden that hasn't

interesting laws. They say if, if there's more than one object at a site, then you have to report it to the government is just one thing that you find you can keep it and they have a final reward to encourage people to be honest about it, and if it's only the single object, you still have to report it if its partially made of a precious metal or copper alloy. But if its view in Sweden defined Wooden ball. I love this example in it. That's the only thing you fine, then you get to keep it. It's really interesting. Now the United States, as a national, historic preservation, act in the archaeological Resource Protection ACT and they claim, I think, The site must be at least a hundred years old and remains must be related to past human life or activity. That means you have to report it to the government rather like really

like granular, oh yeah, depending on where you are, and what the law this is to countries like there's, there's something called treasure: trove law, which is basically it's this, but it has to do with finding bunch of riches near where that are all enough that the owner clearly now dead, no one can lay claim to it and that they were placed in a place where the the shows intent for them to be retrieved right, like they were buried next to a tree, or something like that rather than buried in grave right is a grave and indicate that they were meant to stay there, s body. So if you find a treasure trove, all sorts of laws taken in the UK in England The Romans were all over that place, so people find like hordes of roaming coins like it. When they're telling the ground in their farm right and he used to be like while there was yours, that's not the case any longer yes,

Duncan Treasure- that's a big, controversial area too, because but alive Those are private companies going after what they think the allotted dough. Do you know what a gold that's where they concept of the camps in going down with the ship came from has so I was listening about the fairy disaster yet and I think that whether or not the captain was forced to stay under the catholic Uncordial, the tradition of the captain, seeing with the ship isn't that the captain, just while the ship's going out, I'm supposed to die I write the captain is first to stay on until the ship is sickly totally underwater, and then you can get. It, has nothing to do with him dying right. He supposed to say I'm because under me time law. As long as the cap zone the ship, it's not for salvage, but the moment the captain leaves the ship it's any. Is anybody who wants to go salvage? The thing like that boating abandon once the captain is off the ship, so the council was to say on until it's basically,

salvageable anymore, anything he can leave catches. So if a ship were just a partially think, then in Israel, salvageable right and there's no captain, yes than you can claim it the apparently, but the captain is still Nino top of the front of the boat. If he's anywhere about barely hang their sticking out of the water he's like I'm stanza, you stay to bartender. That's interesting hit me up with a Bellini UNESCO seventy the UNESCO Convention, established, try to sell. Some international standards for cultural property, but deal with all those international organizations. They can't demand that countries join right but and encourage it and more than a country. A hundred countries have ratified it so far,

thing is this like, even if you join and ratify you can still violated. Yes, your international laws so toothless, it's ridiculous, but I'm under that convention, though it's like he said usually they usually side with a source country of the object arouse ownership, which is good news. To be the prevailing win now like the de. If the source country wants to lay claim to something, you should give it back here as part of a your heritage. They got scattered to the wind in the nineteenth century, when museums were again employing basically professional grave robbers, he go get him a bunch of stuff for the museums collections and now the tides being reversed in a process com. Repatriation. When we talked about that and there yet shrunken heads episode right, like those shrunken heads, are being repatriated back to the store. You are here party to something that worked for a long time, So the early twentieth century- and that is basically when you dig up

he was a excavators site. You find a bunch of great artifacts. The country itself keeps most of the stuff, but the digger can keep a couple of things the data, they don't spell out exactly how many things, because it was poor. It wasn't like a law but for a long if you like, and I expect a site like hey, I wanna keep these three things in you. You can have the rest in the countryside great that works rates like sharing almost yeah this exactly sharing, and so we are talking about the black market being pretty hot for antiquities and artifacts. There's some group called the International Council a museum, yeah that basically created a list. It's called the red list that they put out, I think, on a regular basis, but then they'll put out emergency wants to when suddenly like a black market in a certain area, heats up right and it's pictures of specific items in this

options saying this item, and things like that are most likely to be smuggled and illegally soul in the black market- can write a big market form right now. It's really You seem to go check out on the numbers. I got most wanted less for artifact yeah, but they'll do like all the different so they have a really really cool they can browse through and they have a bi regional country and stuff like that. Two weeks ago the International Council of museums, you go to their website and look for the red list, those guys party to european awareness conventions, thanks man there, while yet you remember and International Council of Museums Convention, yet you weren't there eating do right. I think we should finish up with an interesting little bit about the Nazi Party because Hitler

Yang were way into archaeology because they believed if they could find proof that Germans, where the original area in people's along with Thor in Odin the nordic gods, if it prove that we were the original peoples and we ran the earth. Then that would give them the right to go in and take your country right, so they weren't is interested in things our interest in trying to prove that they own the world and pretty much here that they were descended from the area race, which was the Prodi in the european group yet a mythical we're yeah yeah. So then I was I was not a hundred percent clear on that like are to that area raised definitely exist. Well, I think the the

the nordic gods, yet another that they would be mythical. But yet it were the people who were shut them. They were the area and rights right now this question, so I think that there as an area in race in which we would call the nordic or germanic peoples. So think whether or not what makes a mythical is the idea of weather some pure white race. Ok made it some, ass to raise in the eyes of the Nazis. So they may I have been a mythical people. They got to hear from you fear an expert on early products. Indeed, european cultures. It was there a group called areas and as far as the Nazis were concerned, yes, there was and that the Nazis were the new version of that right

for sure, and they started even pre war in nineteen. Thirty, five Himmler actually founded something called the, and this is german. Of course, I'm gonna be. But I'm gonna call it a h any in the army. He did. You speak German yeah, but that doesn't look like a german word. It's weird yeah does look a little France and it was well known as the ancestral heritage, research and teaching society and one of Hitler's PICS big plans was, you know when he took control of Germany. He took all of the education system, everything and he wanted to flood that education system with nazi propaganda, and so they form this. You know they call it tank, but what they really did was a lot of archaeological digs all over the world, like you said, trying to prove em we're Talkin, Croatia,

Russia, Iceland, North Africa, there going everywhere trying to find traces of what they believe were ancient Germans in the original mastery right and one of the places they want was Iceland, because, apparently, as were tool, teach you Ellie was, which was the seat of the Nordic gods right and they look for something called the Hoff, which was a place where there is supposed the worst hit by the Arians. They said we found it. We found this cave this mystical places of worship, Somebody else came along its head now. This cave wasn't inhabited until the eighteenth century, so not the Nazis and then

The british and the Americans came in occupied Iceland in NEO Nazis were not able to come back now, there's just one example of their failed expedition drank the other, had eighteen, archaeological expeditions total and none of them. My bore fruit, clearing, fruitless their fruitless Satan, provide any information that the nuts where the original master race, because they were not that's right, they were just a bunch of terrible people. You can say that I am a stand on there's some underwrite ended, defend the Nazis, yeah I'd area, the anything up to now. Are you with me to the point no, I dont man and you like to learn more about archaeology, Hasta works is a veritable library of articles on archaeology everything you could possibly need to know basically

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