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up in my life. A lot lately really yeah hausa. You mean I just started: subscribing Harpers, ok, monthly, weekly, one of those two slick, this magazine from like eighty, eighty, nine generous and in the first article of the first issue that we got it some there's a theirs. I guess notes section by a guy who says that the old testament is an alley gory for the NEO. With the revolution memorial went from hunting and gathering you at agriculture. In it he made some really cool points raised

like, for example, Kane enable ABLE was a herdsmen Kane. Was a farmer Kane murdered able right slew, so he slew first murder ever as far as we know a really. Oh, that's right. Yes, a clearer what he said about Adam and Eve would basically like that's the beginning. Where week it was actually kind of a cautionary tale. I really yeah like like, be careful, there's always other stuff associated with agriculture that you're not seeing right arm whose I found the intensely interesting. Then you suggest we do want on the Jefferson Bible and, unlike what is going on here, I write third one number three, this elderly woman by all right, she's inner eighties nineties, spitfire lady still, I'm sure the nineties blinker when she stopped suddenly in parking lots when I'm right behind her. They never do so. I went around her. I was a little irritated and I wanted to know

He lays honour horn and I ll stick my head out like be quiet. Like you did night, I got heart and I go into the industry in the public's be quiet. This woman comes in finds me. My goodness and is like our you, sir, you, the gentlemen who went around me and traffic, a blog about God, she's, a parading me loudly in the middle of public seated on a gentleman. So finally she ends it with you It gets a church and I was like a true. I swear to God Killing you, my friend Tom, might be a first time that was on the phone with me. He convey by this any said. Betty way is coming after me, and the public's I wishes is very white. This woman was terrified Why was wearing like clam diggers with white socks pulled up black essayist shoes, her skin loose, and

she had a fire and her eyes. She wanted to kill me. What did you say? Did your play anything, or did you just sheepishly, or rather I wasn't sheepish here I can say is that you can tell me after But then, when I was a sheep, as I wasn't like entirely mean, but I didn't I didn't frankly. As you know, I quit the boy scouts, because I think that it's a bad idea to just give blanket respected to the old people, because their own I've met some old jerks in my time and this rhythm is actually one of them so there, but this this week when three that's an exciting wake. I never talk about the Bible. It never comes at church ever comes up, but here we are Chuck, did Thomas Jefferson right or rewrite the Bible fact or fiction: hey, that's old school!

Josh, that is faction because he and he did not rewrite the Bible, but he did cobbled together his own version of the Bible that he thought was valid and and should be read and fitting out to say that which is actually, if you think about it, a really A pretty pretentious an arrogant things get this wouldn't overwhelmed, and today's presidency, if someone said Obama put together different parts of the Bible and said that this was what I think the Bible should be. He wouldn't last. You know. Think you would have ever gone over. If TAT is done it he would have been like roll out of town on rail, like you can't do that the early days. So you get away, and I suspect that Thomas Jefferson had Asperger's. Ok, from some of his some of his his demeanor way carrying himself

incredibly high level of intellect. I suspect that he had some something along those lines ripe he might have. You can also say that he could not have less for people thought of a new did his own think their highly intelligent guy and, like you said, if it, if it had come out there, the president had done a lot of people are unaware of this. It wouldn't go very well, which is weighed and let it out. I don't know, that's why it and let it out. I think you just was doing a firm himself right, genuinely nobody's years, trying to be secretive about it, but you were saying, It wouldn't over. Well, today, this kind, it's kind of a fashionable in certain quarters to point out that the founding fathers were bent on founding a christian nation writes a very contentious thing to say, out of people, so that's how they see right. The United States right yeah. I think Thomas Jefferson cutting out the Bible.

Cutting out all the miracles and what he considered gobble they got here cannot undermine that argument. A little they don't you think. Well, he was ds, tend to bring that up to Washington was addressed, Benjamin Franklin and a deity, so much more oh founders, arrived, they are. They differ from traditional Christians because they reject miracles. Basically, a lot of the prophecies and they Sesar they embraced. The notion of a well ordered universe created by God, but God then withdrew into detached transcendence rail. They believe, like a lot of things, Christians believe, but a lot of people. The time said this is a way for you to reconcile your Christianity with all these using new scientific findings that were finding that kind of fine the face of Christianity right. India's was the enlightenment look really

I am basically the way it looked at. God is there's a creator God, but he's kind of like a clockmaker, and he created this clock of the universe, wound it up and stood back to. Tell go to scrape, say, endure member linking the release, Goober paranoid late nineties, right before the millennium, there s a kind of a concept that the universe is a young, the result of an alien experiment That's kind of later in the same vein, actually there's some a higher power right there, does it have a hand in our individual lives, but will start created all this year but interesting. It is so I was teaching. There was T J, B, F and G W P Jeff, that's what he is nickname today would be Teacheth here's. The thing today is seizure as of now here, so he also was deep in the decade.

Of independence. We should say which most people now he was also the one who q first elucidated. The wall separation between church and state, not did not come from the constitution. No, but he so there's a certain bats convention. Of Danbury Rice the outcome, the Committee of the damned very Baptist Association and they re. Two Jefferson saying christian nation, or not. Basically, you sort of basic pointed to know he said he said he said now. I am sure you agree with me that religion is between man and his God. Right and The eloquently said no there's first amendment is there that there's a clause in the first amendment that says that that Congress won't establish a religion, and so I Thomas Jefferson s President and

the guys who wrote that Red see it as a wall of separation between church and state. He thought was a very very personal thing. Religion was spirituality, was a very personal thing here and should step in and tell you what to think about it is so personal that he decided to craft his own bible. Yes in one reasons. He did this because, like we said he was a day s day, a sturdy established thinking go either way he's dead, and he was also very sceptical of who wrote the Bible, the gospels in particular, he thought they were quote: unlettered and ignorant yeah, basically how he saw the Bible writers merciless as with an income from yeah, does ass already, but they were also platonic. They follow Plato right and wrote around the time of Plato and they remember worried in about like call wean Christmas tree, sir, I'm pagan nowadays, yeah they're, all pagan holidays. Are we adopted in christian

in an effort yeah. I was yes bring harvest, rest, bring arm, Equinox Vernal Equinoxes things was collar, you're, no, not yes, vernal economy. And ass. A terror was pegging goddess right anyway is this, is this is how he viewed the the Bible being written like there was. There was a person in Jesus of Nazareth. He walked off some guy loss, incredible philosopher, had this amazing moral code, grammar was right. And then espoused it to people who remember, pass it down orally in that somebody finally wrote a downright, but when they are trying to write it down there also trying to establish a church and so they added some magic so that they could they could bring the pagans into the fold a miracle and he also believe

and this is where he he really wooden jive with today's system. As a politician, he did not believe the divinity of Jesus Christ. He did not believe that he was the Son of God Grant. He thought that he was like Plato essentially like a spot on philosopher, He thought a lot of em. He said dumb. You wrote a letter to John Adams and eighteen thirteen and said that the book that he ended up putting together and which will get into the nuts and bolts of that, but he said he covered the most sublime and benevolent code of morals, which has ever been offered to me. Yeah Jesus philosophy out so clearly thought a lot of of Jesus Philosophy and he thought a lot of the the greek philosophers and imagine other religious philosophers as well, but what he was saying was the with Jesus had come up with

where's as good as it gets? You can abashed plate other. Did you see yeah? He read Plato in the original Greek and was like met here is happily he found lack lustre here. I can guess his heart to please. You read the Bible and he carried down to forty six pages he did Christopher hitches. Put it like this, and you know I hit and he's not he's got a big guy, I'm religion. Now he can actively combat it, but yeah there's a forty six second clip on Youtube of Christopher Hitches, debating somebody an he describes, Jefferson Bible, as what was left after Jefferson took a pair of scissors and cut out. Anything that could not be any intelligent person be believed it makes for a slender coming it read in Fixation Christopher, since this is no surprise to you, love Christopher Heaton. This is no surprise. Yes, but he got one thing wrong. He apparently a razor, not scissors, small detail. Literally he went through was was scratching.

The FAO has really and then I think you went back and started cutting stuff out, while he probably that he found himself thanks, so much out you get tiresome psychologists see cut out what I do like set of scratching at when I don't like you, all told. There are thirty one thousand two hundred three Bible verses, numbered Bible versus right here's a stir in the new testament, so we're talking, seven thousand nine hundred and fifty seven right antithesis, play the gospels of if you look which there well

There was more than that, but he'd. He use a lot from Athene Luke, two thousand two hundred twenty to imagine. Luke and all told he only had the Jefferson Bible only had nine hundred ninety right, verse, seller. Friends, I want to tell you about love book, the very easy way to personalize a book to someone you love in three easy steps. Love books, helps customers express the sentiments that may be difficult to say out loud for some of us looking in anyone's particular direction, users can create characters that look just like themselves and the recipient right down to the outfits and accessories customers have the option to personalize each page as much as they like, but the express option creates a complete book with just a few clicks love, but now offers a membership programme as well. You receive a free book when you sign up fifty percent off any additional books, unlimited free digital books and discounts on gift, rap and other products, love books of the perfect gift for all occasions, or just because so right now you can check

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When events like the sermon on Mount certain parables the way to live your life and see, that's always been my deal unwilling to personal, but you know we have analysed was two hundred episode is a little late for that. I was re southern Baptist and it wasn't the best experience for me. But I still say I still maintain that the Bible has is a great moral code and there's lots of great parables that teach you how you should act as a human. Apparently, I'm in Jefferson's camp is that's what he ended up using as he and calling it initially the philosophy of Jesus of Nazareth and then change that title later to the life and morals of Jesus of Nazareth and then in the nineteen ten addition there is the subtitle or how to give up. In queens and a dime a day there were just now really there shall not seriously

I'm a clearly wasn't called how to win for our friends in influence, because he is this probably wasn't a very popular, Even back, then, though, I am sure would have. The same effect is how to win friends and influence people there, but he did keep it quiet. He said it was for himself again. I don't think he kept it quite I think he knew he was. Is keeping it for himself? I disagree with part of the sentence he just said, but a groove part be accused of a quote from him. If you wanna hear from the man himself, Josh is wrong sorry, he said I performed the operation for my own use by cutting verse by verse out of print

and raising the matter which is evidently his and which is a useless distinguished as diamonds and done hell. It's gonna harsh, but here in that the stuff that really came from Jesus his mouth right is the gold, the diamonds in the dunghill safe, extracted all that, and that was what he believed than what yeah he thought. The platonic were sellouts the issue you know- maybe not added quite so much so it happened to a judge. What happened to it was it basically again he did it for himself. I think I am. I read a rough said he did it kind of on a whim or in response to a question from a friend of his doctor. Benjamin rush, oh yes, said like how would you characterize your view? Chris it. So he went about doing that. I think, is rather the exactly gotta razor and it was in his private library which apparently somebody inherited, and

Smithsonian librarian came across it. Yes, what I run years ever Cyrus Adler is a government. Employ I came across this. There was like I'm gonna, sell to the library kind right yeah. They did they started. Putting an imprint Congress ordered an imprint. Thomas Jefferson is considered the father of the Senate. Yeah here is the first vice president, so he and he wrote the rules others are still in use today. He just did it because its board one nature, Asperger's tamers, echoed the Bible, and so Congress Cornerstones of publishing, I think, publish like nine thousand copies yeah and even still today, it's a customary welcome. Give new members of Congress definite interesting. Now the same congress you're like this is a christian name right, but

It's still in their that's, that's the diamond, but it is very interesting that they would give an altered version of the Bible as a gift I mean it's not as odd as if they were to give like Alister. Crowley's memoirs is definitely little odd. I, when I read that of us slightly shocked, were coming. Comes it kind of reveals a certain disingenuousness than that the level of it. Possibly you nobody at one point in your life and both of our lives. For being honest, we don't even know what a checklist was. What's it Nicholas exactly now. I know what it tackles is the thing that you put down things like kick up: dry, cleaning or water plants or start working out at six, a m horrible things yeah. But you know, if you think about it, it's really up to you what you put on that checklist. Like you know, you are in charge of your own destiny,

Oh, it's absolutely true. So, for example, you could remind yourself on your checklist to pick up a pack of ice, cold, diet, Coke, that's right, you can do that reward yourself, because you kept that plan alive. You worked for ninety five. You went to yoga, you finished your laundry yeah Chuck because being an adult can be a little alarm difficult. Sometimes why? Not, if you feel like it rewards itself, is a little die.

Action makes you think at least won't. Let you know what was in Thomas Jefferson Smile and he's easily one of the most fascinating historical figures. We have you anything else. No, if you want to know more about the Jefferson Bible, you carry this pretty cool article by Jane Mcgrath. You can find it online. The whole bible legally both about to ask you some people the site. Firstly, it is true. I just type in Jefferson, Bible and a handy search bar has the words that com and then, after that, you might as well Discovery the Jefferson Bible Yes, yes, which leads us to the sooner questions so yeah we did, we put out account. They spoke a couple weeks ago. Four questions and we got bombarded so actually happen. In instalments because allotted questions, leisurely really really new questions,

now in and now these are brand new. Your line fifteen together, still need to use them so we're gonna, buzzard alot of these pretty quickly chuck. Whose taller between just Tucker's and Jerry Justice, the tallest, robust six feet, or so I'm not feed on them. Five, ten jerry? How are you survive it? Behind the curtain theory Highway go ahead. I've got one from colon who would want in a fist by our glass or Josh it would be a we can actually sightly sized him physically and personally, I think it would be like a humiliating slap fight for both guys. I dont know that there would be a baby, I come to you remember, Adam Goldberg in days. Views. Yes, you remember

When you re my hold off a win, win Nicky TAT mean pull over him yeah. I think it would be like that, but both of us, both of us, is Adam Gilbert right there. Trip says? Can you finally reveal the name the Big Box appliance store that did not do check right with his extend working? I dont think that that would be very smart Even I dont know what it is. I don't think that would be very brand smart to do Josh. So I'm not going to make you trip for the question. Well, I'm not reading this. Ok, here's another one from Natalie. Would you consider doing a sixty Greece of separation from your listeners? I go. First, my sister Kathleen went to redeem high school with shock carefully needed possum. So that's nice.

Even ends in an exclamation point? Yeah I get time says: what's it like mean so old Chuck Tom, it is awesome, go had risen from Hannah, which is better take reply. What you call a soft drink, I call it soda might have because a part, that's two questions. I thought cook I call it cook is well. I grew up current pop yeah. What's better taken Pied, actually, there's nothing better than a good take pie, yeah I'll kick by my Party of Brittany, others, Brittany from New York. And actually to answer that question posed better member Brittany Writ yes, Brittany says: does hippy rob participate in it s? Why escape drinking game which we don't sanction? No one knows where hippy rabbits So is he the also record holder Don't even know that hippy rob knows that as well as the exertion. Of course, she does not think he does.

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Not true Christopher, what's it like living in hot Lana, particularly now that some are starting. It is awful, and I grew up here s nest the lawful and it's not like you get. You know it's gun exponentially worse. Even since I move down here, ninety nine they tear you can't break. Thank you. Swimming outside I was once from mark. If you could have one superpower, what would it be? Fine invisibility, the questions they don't get out. I got two more quickly just on says. Would you like cheese with that? Always, of course, is the answer to that question. And Joe says what is the best most unique piece of free swag. Anyone sent you, and I think we just got it this week. We have had to go through to are you here.

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