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his army and tried to show you something right back, but yet this idea to the two even say mumbled mouth reporter- maybe near the lady who is sufficiently my group would appear to have had a stroke right. Reporting from the game is in LOS Angeles couple years, yet I still don't know others ok to laugh at that cause. I don't know really what happened to her. Well, we didn't live. We very solemnly show Jerry yeah yeah. She laughed terrible do their station. Ah, I've got one for you. Gotta go a bit of an insurance. Not might so greatly your hopes up nine ever heard of the Population Reference Bureau. Look you have because I've mention before I have mentioned this this article, before its on p r b dot org, it's called how many people have ever lived on earth no, what we mentioned in it, maybe the population at the third or something, but it's a

cool little article by this demographer named car hob ETA. You be and he is even a video from explaining it if he couldn't get what he was going with they harm. He reckons that modern humans, people who were virtually indistinguishable from you for me, aside from the fact that their not weighing like any clothes, really you showed up about fifty thousand fifty two thousand years ago, so hard puts the population of humanity at two in fifty thousand BC came here. So from that point to two thousand eleven extrapolate, does the math does little demography, thank you and hugged comes up with the number that one hundred and seven billion six hundred two million, seven hundred and seven thousand

Seven hundred and ninety one people have ever live between fifty thousand b c in two thousand and eleven see this pretty. It is it's a lot of people who says that means about six point. Five percent of that are alive right now, her word two thousand eleven sore die off. Yet that's the point. All one hundred and seven billion six hundred and two million seven hundred seven thousand seven hundred ninety one of those people head one thing in common one thing: aside from being humans tat, no, not even not even reach tax yeah, yeah didn't have tax and in fifty thousand busy they had running from safer to tigers and death. Death is death. So one thing all one hundred and seven billion six hundred two million seven hundred seven thousand seven hundred ninety one of those people hadn't common. You know what I'm thinking

Andrew driving? You did, I thought that be funny if Josh's like how long people been dying chuck- and you know what this wasn't that far off He wouldn't do that you do you like every voice, boy We wait number I like the hundred seven billion six hundred, two million seven hundred in one thousand, seven thousand seven hundred ninety one Yet- and that includes you me pal you that means you're gonna die. I'm gonna die, Jerry's gonna die at least two or three times. We're all gonna die yeah. This is our dying by gas were em. We have covered just about every aspect of dying key die from a broken heart. How rigour mortis works? What's the worst waded die here? Is our best

Neither do we do that that was come in there is. There was a very good idea. We ve covered everything from autopsy peak oil. What can be done? with the dead body, ninjas yeah, all ninja. At least you should know better Yeah. We really have danced around everything, except just how dying works in this is gonna, be a sad podcast in many ways and gruesome in some ways, because we're gonna touch on some of the stuff we did on, unlike rigour, Morrison autopsies and the actual dying process, right. But I mean to brace yourself and I've met in the sky scores of Times ITALY's, but as the Hungarian, its Charles, many think, an advocate of the great psychologist, earnest Becker area, shout out through a pal jury, docile whose, like him, the Becker now in the Ernst Earnest Earnest, you think you MAX Ernst

Lookit earnest Vector, wrote the denial of death row seminal work. That basically says we're all just doing everything we can to that our own demise near and there is some sort of health weathered spiritual, emotional there, some sort of health and well being, I think, from facing the fact that you're going to die sure and talking about it yeah. So, let's talk about death baby. Let's talk about you, Let's do it so Molly Edmunds, who used to be intimate stuff? I never told you we called wrote this when Anne, I think it is interesting and I usually don't like on articles day like the definition above a blah blah of interesting, that in the first answer media. It was just the separation of the soul from the body, and now it's in a thirty times that long in the encyclopedia

and that's a sort of indicative of how we used to think of it and how I don't have it ironic or not, but how medical science is complicated, that over the years all stuffily ironic, because I mean we used to become didn't that we understood death, it's like that person is a moving any more. If you ask him what he wants to eat, he's not gonna respond. If you choose something firm that you like a black, a cheese is not going to be swallowed like yeah, that's death and since there was perhaps a lot moral religiousness associated with death and dying than there is today that kind of underscored, the belief in death, its they sold the pie from the body the train it. What? What more do you want to know? Egghead its death? Well, yeah way back. You know a few hundred years ago you calling a priest and they'd. They check the bodies if its breeding and say yes, they're dead.

But can I was pretty much at the doktor? Wasn't even involved at that point. While there may not have even been such a thing as doctors and if there were wearing like masks and made them look like Kroes to protect him from the plague, so they were in any better is ascertaining death in a priest. Was s true when doctors did come along and they invented things like the stethoscope. They could actually check and see if there was a heartbeat before that. Those Balfour test, which I can find a lot about this other than you stick needles into the heart with little flags on it and see if the flags move having it pretty straightforward, really yeah. I think that's about it. I'm! Ok! That's the test by that and there were other tests are like a priest who may have come to say whether you're dead.

Would you like placing a feather above the mouth around the mouth and nose the seizure of the old marriage, a mere trick here that still in a useful, it is by only if the mouth is still moist. If it's a dried mouth, it's probably not gonna forget a mere well if it's not breathing fucking. For me right, a second I'm, so I said that medical science is complicated it and that's exactly what tat over the years, because as we progressed with medicine, we discovered a lot of ways to we reverse deathlike bring people back from the dead, whether it's something is easy, CPR or is complex It is you know, machines that help you breathe and feed you right. And not only that we ve entered this really awkward period in future. Medical history, where

the machines that can tell us whether someone is alive or not, there are more advanced than our machines that can bring a person back from death year. So we, voice to sustain the buyer as each man, but not necessarily the person, depending on your definition of death, you like the faintest trace of a brain if maybe right? Yes, so we went from holding a feather under somebody's mouth and nose. Yes, if they're alive to using them our eyes to see whether there is electrical activity more finding that all these old song, AIDS is old, outward signs of death, don't thoroughly mean that the persons dead and even if the person is dead. We have technology like you're, saying yes to resuscitate them. The question is: if we resuscitate them- and there are still not talking- they still vote you what they want to eat here. Are they alive We're me in this

but that long you know I mean in the fifty two thousand years or whatever the people have been dying, so we ve been the path in a sixty, something that we ve had to come up with terms like persisted vegetative state and an irreversible coma because of those machine. That can exactly or sustain a body in nineteen. Fifty eight, that was when the french neurologists disrupt the coma they pass, which is estate beyond coma, basically brain death, although that didn't come along and told technically until nineteen sixty eight when Harvard Medical School did basically defined it for the first time yet another even called brain death at the time when they cannot just First of all, coma like you're, not coming back get brain death was gonna tacked on later three. As a common to pass. Some very persistent vegetative stay near Brenda. Always things would indicate again that you

dead. The problem is, as we have these machines, they can keep your body warm airing. Keep your chest rising and falling can keep your body going indefinitely here, but the thing is there, something that's not there and what does that mean? You're dead, there's been a lot of talk about exactly constitutes death. Defining debt to the very, very difficult thing to do is Ashley withdrew the advancement of medical technology, it's kind of change. Every time you cover the ok, I got it. This is the definition of death right. Medical technology can provide some picture of a state of consciousness or life, They throws a ranch in that works in a year in its I'm actually, after nineteen sixty eight it

nineteen eighty one of a presidential commission this when they finally in the United States, wrote a paper called defining death, medical, legal and ethical issues in the determination of death. That was the basis for the uniform determination of death act which basically rejected the Harvard idea. Of the higher brain, which is like when your personality in your memories are gone, the cortical brain that means you're dead rejected that in favour of the whole brain which includes the brain stem, is what keeps breathing and functioning they rejected in favour of that. So Herbert was like man right I own. I I think I subscribe to the higher brain death definition of death yeah, the brain simum. Yes, it's pretty significant sure you can be borne with just a brain

stem. We talked about MIKE the headless chicken Bulgaria he had his head cut off, which include his brain was brain stem was still there in his chickens. I didn't really matter, but the thing that is, it there's a huge division between the two, because there is a big difference. Breathing and being able to swallow for yourself yeah and making a conscious decision, whether again, what you to eat right there or having memories or just reacting to people. Aside from, like you know, fiscal react, right it s stimulus. Yes, that's one of the one of them at the bears a whole article on brain death. We voted on. I thought we did that now. I think we in the donation procurement episode. We talked about brain death and testing for brain death. Like this, you cool water in your ear canal, remember covered at some point. How ya think he was in the organ or maybe leffingwells. Obviously we money touched on it then do they want.

We have well, we did well, but we had on living well, but you know mention organs, I don't think we said that that was a big can have a clue three in the nineteen sixties thumb in the late, I'm sorry midnight fifties and then really in the nineteen sixties is when we went organ transplant, crazy, actually kind of. Not just the United States. All over the world. Doctors said: hey, weaken. Actually give people a shot at life, because we can now transplant kidneys and lungs and hearts the problem was, and this is sort of the sad things at Molly points out is that the definition of death can. I came out was hurried along. Maybe because we needed organs from these bodies exist. Still technically ally, which is very ghoulish proposition. I mean it makes sense from a very utilitarian standpoints, like this. Guy doesn't even know he's laying the area and he's got a great kidney that could go to his sister, who

knows that she needs a kidney, she's gonna die and she's got kids that she wants to hang out with them. Like can put the skinny to get you. So yes, let's figure this out, but as Mali says, like most developed countries have signed under the brain stem where it's like. You brain, can no longer keep you alive right on your own. You can't swallow you can't take a breath for yourself so you're dead. The problem is that that's that's different, that much much much more. The narrower definition of death addressed, and I think that that probably rules out a lot of people who might otherwise be used to harvest organ zere harnessed Anna, I too was talk about death itself. It it's funny that you were not funny, but out of all the different ways people can die. I thought it seems, simplify break it down in the three ways, but that's really kind of the three ways ya think we talked whether autopsies too,

yeah can be an accident, obviously with that's called the autopsy, my after yet the violent death, which is also an ugly. I guess I'm not an empty now, its tragic yeah, homicide or suicide. The checklist talk about what it's like to die from different types of death. You Douglas the goal here, because I really wanted to know like what is it like to drown or to be burned alive. Young people have survived tat some of these things and come back to tell the truth This obviously play for going to find this devout are from lucky people, I'm drowning of ice, her drownings a good way to go because it's not so painful, like the brain supposedly releases endorphins at the end here seem with freezing I've. Heard too may be true Although Johnny victims have reported aside from the panic

tearing and burning sensation when you're water starts going with longer and quickly, hopefully, really quickly after that is the feeling of calmness, yes, said: overcomes in tranquillity, yeah a heart attack. You got the squeezing chest pain in your chest storm, yeah hooker weight on your chest right. What I didn't know is that because of the heart, not delivering its agenda, the brain any longer. You can lose consciousness within like ten seconds and realise that idea like it was there is a lot more to it. Well, it depends you know everyone has their own signature. Heart attack is what, if bleed out. I imagine this is not one of the best ways to go. But a leader and a half of blood, you're gonna be thirsty and weak. An anxious anything over to you're gonna, be pretty confused and dizzy and probably was consciousness pretty

and after, and all of that would be levelled, relate to how fast your losing blood church and never pallaby Variant, depending on how you are losing blood like why? Because you would imagine that you, if you're standing guard or something like that yeah, you got the attendant pain in addition to this dying from loss of blood or like men. Reservoir dogs. There, like one, was Harker waste open a movie yeah that open, but they cut right that seen after the diner seem right. After the walk there. Electrocution, if you're in your house and you get electrocuted, could stop your heart right then, and there, and, if in an electric chair you

I have actually heated your brain up to the point where you die or suffocated the debt write, but the there's indications that being electrocuted with enough voltage Alexia that it instantly you lose consciousness right. That's the idea, probably with the column quote Humane, and I quote humane input and to stop doing that. I'm gonna get caught him quote here, but if we fall from a height, if you fall from a height supposedly I'm time slows, which is awful yeah. It's like well you'll experience all this year that sir we're the idea that you that you really can take it all. In that's really awful it, so they D did a study of thumb jump.

From the Garden Gate Bridge, which is seventy five meters. What is that? Two hundred thirty forty feet its high enough amateurs and if they found evidence that a lot of them died from exploded, Longs exploded. Hearts and their organs were all cut up from their rids yeah, which would indicate death was pretty much instantaneous yeah. We talked about down something to recently. I think. Maybe I heard someone else talking about. It is pretty bad weather, go what the Golden Gate Bridge

just follow day from a height yeah. Ukip members talking to you about jumping in the waters like what actually kills you when you jump in the water from the iron, it was like your organs smash into each other and explode yeah. I guess from any high near win you when you die from there, be from organ explosion or whenever you or are you know the brain. Obviously, if he had first yeah, that's the long drop back in the day would, although they so, we can get hung in certain states. If you choose really Year Washington State, I know you can you can choose. That is your method, nobility, the gallows and the idea that there is you want your neck to snap, otherwise he died slower and now suffocate the problem is there is a study of thirty four prisoners that found four fifths of them died partly from asphyxiation? Really that's the wrong way to hang somebody here. If you, if you dont snap their neck, where they don't you

It is not immediately, they sit there and hanging in died of its fixation that Tibet Way to go in speaking a bad, I think, being burned to death, maybe one of the worst it never. We came up the words they were wasted. I think so because you feel it and you think, like your nerve, endings but I thought I'd go. You're are probably like stop responding quickly by the panel. No, not only is it not the case, apparently you're fired further. Sensitize is your nerve ending, so you feel even more pain, but luckily most people. I think the vast majority of people who die in fires actually die from smoking Palacio, for they ever feel pain from fire yeah that are well known about before they feel pain, but hopefully quick enough. Well, you know carbon monoxide thinks so like there's a lot of smoke. You are downloaded the ground.

And that's where the current carbon monoxide is so you're, really mostly that so it's possible before MR and then the natural death, which is, of all major disease and here and there three. We have come to whip up a lot of the disease over the years entered into they sniff them off. The case right well depends like some of the ones that, like Oh undeveloped, countries like diarrhoea disease, leisure, eyeing from diarrhoea. Here you don't have that much in the? U S, but we have chronic disease like obesity. Diabetes in dumb cardiopulmonary disease yum. We have that down I'm gonna live here, actually think they're, all earthly part is number one cancers number two lower respiratory is number three stroke his foreign accidents or five year, and it is a huge drop cancer and heart are close to six hundred thousand

and then number three low respiratory, only a hundred and thirty. Eight thousand. So I chose you what cancer and heart disease are doing right. The United States least when the upshot of all this is that most of us are not going to die suddenly, either by accident or by violent death you're dying of all days. Didn't you the thing now it was legs like a lot of ways. A diver that would render them you ticked off Traveling night- or there is a dispute over grazing right here yeah. You walked into a bare cave near the plagues by yeah all ages. It it's kind of a new thing by it's one of the most term prevalent forms of death in develop countries. It actually has its own name frailty here, which is great sad, but it's great we can without our lives and in work about to talk about it, but sometimes the body just like any other machine just stops right.

It's not designed to keep going indefinitely and ultimately the system shuts down as subsystem shut down through the shutting down every second right right, now that body that run down very slowly and for that and because you and I are both dying- I guess once your boring- you start dying near- are actually stop growing. You start dying right, it is hell. Is that positive outlook, her, but I mean like your shedding cells in my eyes, is like the dye were in the midst of the dying process, just as natural system is in the winding down, although it takes decades- and we still have plenty to do- you, like you, said, you're dying, I'm dying, you that's why they have a more specific definition of death, which is called active dying. You and I are not actively dying right now now now, instead,

we are actively dying were in the midst of the dying passer. Yet it has started. The dying process has started the descent. If you will have started right, so I'll always gonna happen since different types of cells die the different speeds, that's what it is itself right, so you don't want to let the cat out of the bag, but oxygen doesn't happen to different parts of the body. Yourselves are gonna die exactly and so as these cells die at different speeds. Different systems are going to shut down bridges from watching frail people die of old age. They can't have like this, though, the order in which it happens, kind of down, Pat, so there's the em there's the pre active dying phase, which can take about three weeks search about three weeks before death, two or three weeks, and then there's the active dying phase, which can take a few days.

Obviously that's not set in stone. None of this is set in stone, but this is all just dumb kind of accumulative knowledge from observations of people dying in like hospice assurance like that you get the pre active phase of dying and like if it had started a couple weeks ahead of the actual death because we have. This is a big deal right now we're talking about like its becoming very clear. In our modern age they death is not an instant. It's not a moment. There is a problem, ass yet well, unless it is in an instant but yeah old age time, yes or like other candidate, but about non accidental dying. Ok, we'll call it that cassettes like that. Anything right and even sometimes in very short scale. That can follow some of these four thought you. Yes, I hello,

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In order to get the nations, while that probably causes the modeling too, which is your your scan, can become sort of reddish like splotch, eaten with reddish blue splotches as well right you can you? Can it be a little restless? Probably yeah, you know impasse come off is confused. You not only hungry, know your dinner probably withdraw from social activities beyond and become a little a little withdrawn. Ah, you might one set of unfinished business with family. You might request family come visit you for that kind of thing out: you're the non physical parts. That's definitely some you didn't doing right. That's like um, apparently something that that people intuitively no like they. They need

Apparently, patients, no, when their dying of seeing that happen in one of the one of the signs from that mention in hospice care. Palliative care here is that the patient maven state. The undying here like I started its common desperate common yeah yeah, and that's sad that when you realise like all right, this is this: is it like us? Myself began soon, but that's need, though, especially if you time yes, you're, like ok, I'm gonna put everything in order to then die happy or peacefully yeah. That's need that you have that that time to take care of that year, if your fortune after go that way for letter back to physically army, you won't be able to heal from a wounded infection any longer yeah. You might dumb lose control of your bladder. Your bowels

over the course of some time you might be in pain, but chances are here in the modern world. They're gonna carry you in that respect right any good. That's called palliative care where at some point it's very obvious that you're going to die in a lot of it can be based on what you want, even even without your wishes. There is probably a point in time where medical science says there's nothing. We can do for you here, which will make a comfortable exactly seven gonna give you pain, Madrina like you're. Your care is being transferred over from a physician to whose you know once save your life and keep going to hospice workers. Yeah healthcare professionals who are trained to just keep you ass, comfortable ass possible for the for the duration of your life, right man, hats off to those people, yes, like all health care professionals, of course, but man hospice nurse

As tough serve, you gotta, be like you, gotta be made of the right qualities as a human sure to be able to tackle something like that and still get up and go to work. Every day there are literally in the business of dying there very valuable, valuable service people provide. So that's the that's the pre active phase That's the I'm. Getting ready to die got a couple weeks and all my systems are still the wind down in the active phase. The systems To shut down may not have consciousness. And if you do you may, if, if you are able to be aroused from comments from unconsciousness slip right back into it again, possibly you are probably in apparently families finest, very disconcerting you're, probably going talk about people who are dead as if they were in the room or you can see them were here them. Yet this is the main slipping at a dinner

a hospice workers from what I can tell tended just treat it like it's real on its own terms. Here, they're not saying it's real or it's a whole insulation or something like that and they advised families not to treat it like a hallucination interested not to correct them. Yet I make sense because it you're there are provided for not say no grandpa, grandma's bingo, four year exactly. Why would you want to do that? There is an exception. You would want to do that if their fearful from their visions thing, you can say that it's not real, it's just you your brain and that's not real or whatever. Yet again, how about comfort? Yes, but you don't want to contradict they're happy or given saying in a neutral tone. It's only if their their fearful that you want to say that, but apparently families are kind of like, oh god v ger Easy, but it's it's a natural part of the active dying process breathing skin.

Come really weird. The patient's gonna stop breathing for disconcerting long periods of time. Yeah. This is called the chinese strokes, respiration stokes turn Jenny, Stokes name for Tanzanian William Stokes, obviously the first due to describe it to get all the press, quick, deep, breaths, sometimes very slow and, like you said, sometimes stopped together, and that is caused by receptors in the heart and brain stem, basically being too sluggish to respond to different amounts of oxygen co2, and is this kind of lagging behind

again think of it as a machine. This just slow down and those receptors can't pick up on time. So it's it doesn't know how to tell you to breathe. Basically like at a steady rate, we should say that there isn't evidence that that is physically painful, true again awful for the healthy person in the Roma. Yet for the family watching it. You think that the person suffering this not evidence that they are in fact suffering yeah, but it seems like it and that of from what I understand palliative care, not only making the patient comfortable, as is one of the priorities making the family comfortable as a priority as well, because how you die has it very lasting impact on the people? who were there to witness your death year programme? So explaining that they're not suffering is helpful.

But not necessarily enough yet- and I think actually, this podcast itself could help like some people cause. I don't think about people. Do this sort of research when they go into a hospital room in the last hours of loved ones, life yeah may not be it They may, even if it is explaining my not sink in what they are being told. You because you know seeing somebody gasping for breath, and then being told that they are really suffering the two things might not job or your. Your instinct is surprising and get help new like they can't breathe clearly, let's get a nurse in the and earth like now. That's that's part of it another women's very disconcerting? Another sign of active dying is the death rattle and yeah. I did it. I guess I don't be doorman death rattle. And basically either you have fluent in the lungs or, like you know, a nuclear threat like I just it yeah, that's a normal ability. You have until

die. Yeah you can clear, throw anymore you're learning Muscles were basically spamming. What clearing your throat now, the death rattle? No, the death rattle is just breathing through the mire its both its it's either liquid or it's the muscle spasms is. Are you ok? So what did you find that painful? Because I found that it does cause pain. It's down. It sounds terrible again to the people in the room act like here, and this is something we pointed out. This is the ago no face of death in Greek for struggle in agony yeah. That sort of just the capsules, I think, is partly why they call it the active phase of death there rather than Agonal out of it. They don't come The more I mean I think some people do, but I think the active and acknowledge the same one and the same gotcha. It's just you know they're in the agony, face right or their the active phase

your muscles. Aside from your vocal cords, might start convulsing and spasm being he can get all you know procedure. In things wouldn't seem like you should be able to do in your state. I come contracts. Have you could do catch up? card tricks on one hand of the early in the grand I never could before. I knew he's from here and here somehow what else see you blood, precious gonna drop, your jaws gonna drop. You might end up in a really weird rigid position, and here I think we said your extremities are gonna- be called the touch yeah. Actually, the young the death rattle as a result of the spasm, of your learned, your muscles that can also produce what was described in what I read as a barking. Sound

oh yeah, yeah and I've. Never. I didn't search that out to see if that was recorded anywhere, but I'm curious what that sounds. Like I've heard everything from a gurgling, a girl how do you think there's marbles in your throat right barking, it's a new one, but it make. I think everybody has their own signature death rattle you now here but The rule of thumb, apparently among hospice workers, is once the death rattle comes as a sign that they got about forty eight hours or less left to live yet all of these are tells really and all of them and we'll talk about Heaven after the bodies there too, and that helps with finding out forensics. I think we pointed out twenty times at the time of death, depending on the very things that happen. You know when they find you, but all that all of these hurt, like like markers on a clock, yeah and if you're

scare. You know these things like this is this means this other their signs and symptoms of the system shut down? The person's body is going through a near so low. With. This sense is apparently also are lost in a healthy person or a person who has all five senses yeah their lost in a certain order and touch in hearing are the last a girl a really and another. That's gonna, nice. Another very important point that hospice workers make is never ever talk about the patient, yet they're, not their yea, because they can hear you up until the end like hearing is kept salon the person could hear before then in his eye, damage from you know during activating period they can hear you until the moment they die and you need to be careful what you say yes- and I think that's a really nice thing- that the last

things that you can experience, are the touch of a loved one or the voice of a loved one right now you may leads to see him not even be able to respond to that. You can still hear MR our definite picked out of her sight at other here. Someone's words as I pass rather than silence and just seeing their faces staring at me. So long is there wait. One more thing. I think it would be almost cruel to be able to see and not here at the end, you know if he wants to see your family upset you wanna hear field, on the other hand, say earrings, so you see you, you raise a good issue like this. If you have a dying family member, especially their dying of frailty or theirs. Lying like they're in the dying processes are about to enter the nine process. Here you could do worse things. Go online and in educate yourself on how to be around them. I think people don't intuitively now

how to be around a dime person in their certain things that you should do certain things you shouldn't do like. For example, they say that you should talk to the person, not the condition yeah, so don't treat them like their frailer die. Treat them like they're your old friend here. They are extremely important to make sure that their an appeal for calm environment you're, so like maybe yelling at somebody over the will is a really bad idea. They seem like no brainer, but I guess some people need to be told the stuff yeah, but I don't think about it. Like you did, I can put you on edge being run, I personally do you mentioned the fact that they're gonna dire drew. You know I mean like the audience around it. If they make a joke or something I yet I can you laugh or do you live to heart Do you not laugh enough like theirs? I think it's not necessarily like here and they get just put your knowledge, not everyone is sensitive to We had one, don't bring it up

up in there and watch her reruns at the office, no yeah. They speak from experience, and I understand that at all my let's ok get off your cellphone yeah, they tension of them. Sure yeah, I mean that's what you're, therefore, the as hospice workers, put it you're, giving them a very young heartfelt guessed by being there sure with them, while their die. It might be receiving a gift sure and many religions and cultures. It's very much an honour to like be a part of this whole thing, and even if you're, not religious sick, you could just feel that way. Spiritual is a human okay. Well, let's pause here, because Chuck it's time for a message. No

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damned outcome, never go to the post office again. And we're back. Ok, so are we dead yet aware that point yeah, the the person has Patsy this hunt him, Jerry. You hear what I mean We ran off some pretty what seems like suffering, but now the suffering is over. If there was any, the person is dead. So once You immediately immediately after you die, your pupils are gonna dilate, because the muscles controlling IRA, Sir, you know, can have their final rest. So you people's got away and then have you heard of the terminal tier or the lack Roma mortis? No, This is a usually in the right eye and there's no real explanation for it. But it is a final tier that you while- and it doesn't always happened right after you die, although it can, they did so

in the early nineties, in New Zealand and out of a hundred deaths. Fourteen of them right at the time of death had the Lachrymal modest here Thirteen open in the final ten hours and they say to look out for that of the family. In the assign and also they try to talk you under the fact that it's a comforting thing yet to see that you're being shed well, and since run eyes. You know the old thing where you someone's eyes they die. Oh yeah or you silver dollars on its zeal western. Yet I guess people do that too. So you know having some dead body staring at his if they're looking dead forward, our there like following you all throughout the year and is definitely movie job. But if you dont close eyes. I never knew this something called TAC hd nor of his Tash rotation more. That is, of a black

reddish brown strip that forms horizontally over your eyeballs, and I guess it's just you know your eyeballs dry out and has the air. So if you don't close your eyes- and I looked it up, you're gonna see this weird horizontal stripe across your eye. There's a plus the effect that has in the living the difference when seeing a dead body with their eyes closed in a dead body with their eyes open a year. This is like a galaxy between the two. As far as discomfort goes. Yes, somebody should added together. The like every time is over banana movie here this like super fast. So that's all I got in the US, the chuck, I wanna alarm you right now boy you have living in your guts right now. The very organisms tat are going to do how's your body when you die there, you sit around waitin waitin for action plan for the single. Yet when you die, there's a lot of stuff that stuff

a life, is still going on the even though your brain dead, whole brain higher brain heart, dead, your heart stopped you're dead, you that's another definition of death and no agreement in the art, your heart, something anymore right, you're dead, yes, ah, there's no, bringing you back. You ve been in here that your heart hasn't your brain, hasn't had oxygen for a while. You of hypothermia and they warmed you up to now, your officially dead you're gone right, but there still livestock member the poop shake episode yeah? Who can forget we about the Micro, Bio. We have this whole other, like part of our life are living organism that still around that still operating gear and a lot of stuff living within us, including part of our microbiology, there's still carrying on processes like apparently you can harvest skin cells for twenty four hours and in their still alive, just use em,

here also stuff yeah, you can harvest and then, of course, insider intestines result on european isms that are still living in are gonna help do the work that comes next starting a couple days after death like if you just EL over in the woods and no one was around the setting right and you just left there within about three days. These organisms and Micro Flora is going to go to work on you sitting in your intestines. Yet this is, after the very modest correct. Yes, which exist for she came over, but I would recommend everybody go listen to what causes rigour, mortis, yet for sure it's on the website, you can go to stuff. You should know that calm, slash, pod casts slash what hyping causes hyphen rigour, hyphen orders we'll just rented Mortis Roclin Al Gore Mortis or the death

No, that's the first four things gonna happen that, through your body, starts dropping in temperature, yet that a degree in a half Fahrenheit per hour until you are- Second, nice red wine at room temperature yeah actually does not quit your red lines, like sixty four degrees adjustments. What can a room here and if you're in a sixty four degree, is perfect, what else? Well after algal mortis, you get rigour mortis a couple hours after death, where the body settles into a stiff state that less for what like twenty four hours and remember, we talked about it yet yeah. I think so and then between those you have liver, mortis or US such violation. It were like all a blood coagulated

basically, that your red blood cells are pretty heavy and they just sink, and it's about twenty minutes to three hours after death is when you're gonna be in life, remorseless yeah and then after that is rigour. That's right! Ok! So now back to purification bright with the best in the document yeah, that's Basically like you're these organisms, gonna work breaking down your body and they do it pretty quick yeah, I'm the pancreas apparently has so many in there that it's it's off even without the pandemic, consumes itself is pretty your other organs are gonna. Events will eventually be consumed in turned into liquid yeah you're liquefied from the inside out.

Yeah you're gonna turn colors in this order, green than purple than black, which is to suck like a black eye, I guess yeah and that the same stage yeah except it never for heels experts. You were within a couple of weeks, you're going to be liquid inside near the organisms that are eating. You produce a gas as a by product from their consumption, so you're going to be bloated. Your tongues going to stick out he's gonna turn dark to your time. Yeah and that gas really thinks your eyes are gonna protrude yeah. Something called purge fluid that is putrid reddish brown fluid that can be expelled through an opening right can come out of your mouth. You knows you're vagina,

it can be mixed with theses in commodity, your rectum, another there's something else enquire vagina to yeah. This is maybe them more thing. I've ever heard. I I just I had idea tat. They had no idea go now. I know all about death and all that incite interests. Me. I've never heard of this before anyone, talk about you, don't either maybe should type it into the computer and make the computer say it. You don't have that ability, Carson Earth s pretty gets there, the Good computer press. It That's what you do when you don't want to say something yourself. You pretend you're computer gather Emmeline, I must have. Our fights are like that really near her pretty cute. I go into a worthy aims mode. Well, is it again computer Carson Earth coffin birth? So basically, this ass- is that this is a real thing: we're not making some YAP postmortem fiddle. Extradition is another name for it, so the gas

that build up in the body before the body ruptures, which comes a little later, can become so pressurized. That a pregnant woman who has died with the feed is still in utero. Yeah can actually the gases can push the fetus out of the vagina near which is coffee amber. Yeah, and this does happen much anymore. No, thankfully, because we took care of dead bodies pretty quickly, although they did find evidence of it in the case, in two thousand eight, where this one was found like in the woods, but it was described a lot in like sixteenth eighteenth century. Literature are you know it just drove them crazy, those rights. He was obviously alive for weeks afterwards near an archaeologist. Only to or have to rethink, sometimes when they find could somehow, He would die during childbirth, but the they vary, the the the baby with the mother right, and so you,

and the bones I cradling each other almost, but then they go back. They had to go I can look at somewhere. They find the me now between the legs, the bounds of the baby, and they think that might be the case of a coffin birth rate. So there's the worst thing in the world yeah. Ah, there's probably death male band with that name. If there's not, there is now so the gas ultimately eventually once they start once they really get down to business in their. No wonder just what, with the call whether the fluids coming out a little orifices here, they're perch fluid okay. So once it's like enough at the pretty fluid, we wait where he's going to tear the sucker, your body ultimately ruptures yeah. This is, you know your skin is already blistered at this point in your hair nail.

Peter fallen out. They don't keep growing. No, it's your skin receding from drawing out from desiccated. Yes, a past that around in school kids, when someone says that your fingernails keep going after death, you set him straight telling jobs, oh god, I just realized and then the old dig loving, which we talk about before oh yeah, I forgot about that members now, where the young that can happen to you. If you drive at ten in two and you have an airbag the gases expand the airbag. Adding a steering wheel are very hot and if you're not driving at nine and three, and you have your hands like Lieutenancy, or something here like you're going to be. Gloved really alive yeah, but your skin schemes is burned right off your hands, her it's burning and separated. Then, eventually There are certain to is not how you should driving Warner. Really that's what I want

I drive it either. Just a straight up, six o clock with one hand near or a newer justice men? Then there are rarely have two hands on the way you don't drive with, like your knees with your hands mind your head, a relaxing. Occasionally, if I'm Mamma, you know, relaxing the airplane, the guitar, something declaring yet dig loving is no. We talked about this but probably rigour mortis, but that's when you're aboard body farms, maybe yeah. That's when basically scanners remove still attached to things like males and things like that in its the coptic loving? For a reason, I think we need to explain them. It makes perfect sense for de some, you know I can have in your feet were heard. Allowing did you make them why they said gloves or socks if it's your feet, but I did make it this shocking the cycle of violence- for now. I ask: is that might be anything so the body it wants it

ruptures. Your organs are already liquid and all its. What does a skeleton which will eventually turned a dusty? Can we ve done? No, it can't be done as we do need to talk a little bit about assistance. Was I'd like to see that for your boy, you should it it's quite a controversial subject like we said, I don't know if I said or not, like this. It has been such a huge whirlwind of input of information and I had no less like thirty six hours studying for that that. I don't know what I've said yet or not, or what we talked about in another packets, but here so we talked about dying, frailty old age and at increasing supposedly five ten people in the United States will die in the intensive care unit, and I saw this TED talk from Newcastle, Australia

with this guy can't remember what his name is, but it's about dying. I think it's called it. Can we talk about dying or something in his point was, you're going to die, and I see you whether you two are not right. If you die of a degenerative disease or frailty, unless you say you wanna die there, because the way medical science is currently set up. You are going to be treated most of the time up until the bitter end, with life, saving measures and you're going to die in the icy you with tubes hooked up in things beeping and like other people having cards taken in and out of the room and year people making a big ruckus up until the point you die. Unless they give you palliative care or or you say, I don't want to sustained like that, I don't want to go there. I see you in this point was if half of Americans

we're gonna die, and I you you have to assume that maybe all of them would want to die in the ice. You right and therefore they need to think of things like. I wanted in advance directive living. Well, I wanna living power of attorney. Do somebody to say no? No, do not the motto: ventilator yeah do not put them in feeding tubes like they don't want that they just want to die or they want to get a hospice. They want to go back home right, that's another big one like they dont. Let you go back home right, especially if you can't speak for yourself like two medical science these days, It's crazy! You don't leave the hospital when you know you're dying. You stand sprawling in we keep doing stuff until you die right. That's not the way jobs with a lot of people, but if you don't stop and think about and then write it down or tell somebody who can speak for you. That's you're not going to go home

you're not going hospice. You have to do this ahead of time, and part of that that can come out of this idea is ok. Well, if we have autonomy to say, don't want you to integrate me yeah, why don't we have the autonomy to say? I want you to give me some stuff. It's going to painlessly end by life, yet has its either that or facing a tremendous amount of pain and suffering right, this degenerative disease. It basically saying I'm ready I am ready. It is my life. It's like the richer Dreyfus movie from is this: his life is anyway, I think, I have no idea what you're talking about getting a movie about assisted suicide. In, do you should you had the right to be older? an issue for sure, but early most Americans or them Eddie of Americans actually support it until you start using away like right when you pull them and say to you, are you in favour of doctors, helping as someone

aimlessly and their life, or something here at the end of life. They assure yet another like ok. So your very physician, assisted suicide rate, on both at wordy now and in the doctors who are in favour of euthanasia is is another term, for it say, look at palliative care. It's like half of a step away from vision is a sincere reside here. You're, keeping somebody if they requested knocked out I'm morphine for the rest of their life. There ever gonna regained consciousness. Yeah! There's you? U dug up this one article by of a british physician who argues that that egg on all gasping, yes, Lex fairly, when part of the act news that your body has a reflex where you goin

for air, and it's really disconcerting to family members, even though they dont think that your suffering yeah it looks like your suffering, and this doctor argued. While we have drugs that can block this response so that the person can't gas for air and whites gonna cost him their last couple a breaths, but these last couple of breath make it appear like the suffering and the family remembers that their kid suffered yeah so why wouldn't we do that in this conversation is taking place more and more and more that ultimately kindly who is somebody to say that somebody can choose to end their own life near painlessly through the use of like drugs like how many times did while I mean that's another way to go in and you anybody can do that you're, but there's people out there who don't wanna die violently you're going to lose out with their family. Like that's the part that I was upset about, what that was his wife like finding him and stuff yeah

his wife and his son yet like that we did it in his own basement, which I can understand doing it at home, but he left quite a message some basement for his family to cleaner, but if you options these days like doktor, assisted suicide, he might not have had to make a mess of disbursement, press families yet an shock. We know that hundred Thomson is far from the only person to make his own exit his own way to another. Very famous person, Sigmund Freud did to her. Oh yeah yeah. You know their assisted suicide. Yes, literally physician assisted suicide. He was diagnosed with cancer. The palate can smoke tons of cigars right, which were sometimes just a cigar that agenda for sixteen years. He live with their diagnosis and, finally, toward the end, he asked us surgeon. His physician garden hit me up with nothing

five grams of morphine a ton of morphine and he died three hours after the injection of it, but which is more than his usual to grams of morphine or cocaine. He loved cocaine, India, but he had developed or is called pardon annexed toad next as German, which is a dread of death, so it in so we live at that for us seem years, but he, finally, he he decided along the way like I've. I fear this very minute. Take it in my own hands, physician assistance, suicide. Nineteen, thirty nine and I said more than one side to the coin, I have a lot of people. There is very strong opinions on either side better. I think it's a in at the very even if you remove emerging from its an extremely interesting conversation in that it reveals much about our attitudes towards death totally and autonomy and like who's, who has the right to decide, they're going to dire. Who has the right to tell somebody they can't do that whose life is richer drivers.

Then shook when one other thing that we want to hit on its regret, I actually saw this a few weeks ago just by chance and then you said to me: I think it was in England a hospice nurse A lot of time researching life regrets over the course of a certain amount of time and came up with the five most common life regrets, and I think this is like a good way to end it. You know number one, I wish I had the courage to live a life of true to myself and not the life others expected of me as the number one regret I never do. I wish I didn't work so hard, then surprise me now number three. I wish I had the courage to express my feelings. Number four. I wish I'd stay in touch with my friends, three sad one, and I wish I'd. Let myself be happier this number five yearly courage

saying that they didn't realize toward until the end of their life. That happiness is a choice. Right you make it's not something happens to use in the EU could search out it's a state of mind that you strive worker and to figure that out like at the end that that's regret the so called action people yeah really like. Do you think about the stuff you dont have to which these things in your debt that, if you start doing something about it, now exactly. Dying chuck. You know what we might have just done, we if disadvantages the death of the death sweet there's something else. The only time can tell, but I don't know how much more aspects of death we can cover and I'll tell you what I wanna put all of them together in a blog post, an icy death sweet. So everybody can goals in all things: death, the stuff you should know

What a gift in the meantime, if you want to look at more about dying, does take dying into the search bar has two works. I think it has its own channel, there's so much to it and insisted search bar I'm Phillotson email address is a nice when we don't normally do shut out, but this is a nice one and I thought what better way the into such a depressing show. Hey guys and Jerry. Let the podcast Josh I to thank you for teaching my fiance Danny me about Flash. I check this. Right right, got. I never think about it at night, juries he tried to write Newark, said reminder in my response to people who can t explain again practice. That's my explanation, distract from a different angle. This a real thing should not happen. It is completely amazing and this is guaranteed by the way in its work. One frightening at the same time, for the problem now is that whenever we Walker dogs at night, I just

have my normal. The answer I have this do the flashlight stuck to his forehead Stopping at every field. To, let me know just how many spiders or dots are stepping on how we we. It thanks for the show and now for a shameless requests, and I dont often have shut out. But it would be. The most amazing thing ever give a shout the Danny on Gas There's some time before wedding. On October thirteen Let another. I love him more than anything dynamics, the sheer my life with him, even if he does have a flashlight stuck to his forehead. Rest of our lives, walking or dogs. Together, totally gone away, and I would let him listen to that hot gas first, so thanks to Jerry thanks guys from peachy, where your pity and thanks California. I think it's just expressed very nicely yeah Danny teaching. Congratulations best of luck, best wishes.

I told her listen up on their dying podcast, that kind of funny and it's great Danny, maybe without price they once in a while and people. Dont use your fiance so much as a life, I would like to hear that If you want to see, if you can talk chuck into a shoutout, think your best shot, you can tweak to us it s. Why asked K podcast you can I talk to him directly on Facebook that complex that we should not waste of time You can send us an email to stuff, I guess a discovery, dot com and you can join us at our web. Our very own website. It's called stuff. You should know

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