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Couple of quick matters of business: ok, a little sea away at the beginning. Yes, we're talking about freak, shows right and we will be saying freaks and things like that. That is obviously an antiquated term. Yes but a lot of their lot quotes in here and alive references to freaks and midgets and pin heads and all these awful terms, the days to call these people me: no fiscal, deformities maladies. So it's not a speaking. This is a historic in historical context. Yet I quickly- Sid yeah we're not only that we are not being insensitive here and we want to shut out a few. We use a couple of housework how stuff works house, the forks articles, as well as one history magazine by LAW, Gandhi price, not exactly

get wrote one in their who, I have to say, I'm a fan of that did work yeah. That was good on the price mommy's written, some really interesting articles agreed and then one from human marvels dot com, which is just a good website by J to thoroughness, picnic, announced right de in a You d, the terrifying to know their rights in the deep silent or maybe not. Maybe it's pad now paying out Pineau, payload freaky and a couple of their places we visited so and everyone can assess the same thing. But it's a nice well rounded thing I make What do I mean we're talking about the history of freaks chosen? There's only you know one history. There are certain things happen: We have found it very quickly that, like you, can extract freak shows from Pity Barnum, or vice versa.

Like they, the they are inextricably bound by freak show some, you know was working in the nineteenth century, but the concept of freaks shows, which is basically someone who is a human curiosity and that could be someone who was born with they genetic deformity, ethical deformity, I'm some sort of metal incapacity or something I have turned themselves in human curiosity, say through the wonder. Had he wing or you're learning to swallow swords, something like here, These days, body modification like the gym rose, rack show or there's one in Coney Island still does the like a traditional show, yeah sides,

by the seashore right, also a great song by lunar nice when my favorite band, so that the whole concept of this of having a human curiosity and am basically charging dockers to look at it ate. It dates back quite away. Why can we not, therefore the sixteenth century? He that's pretty far I guess so, but you would think like while the Greeks are. The Romans did this, but apparently no everybody was fairly from what I understand. Everybody just kind of steered clear of human curiosities. To that point yeah. I think people fear them right. They were locked away, mainly because I thought it was some evil curse or my God S wasn't someone you aren't consort with else you might bring back bring down the wrath of God upon yourself. Right, but, like you said in the late fifteen hundred people started to say you know I'm curious about someone with here.

Going over there face, I'm curious about the human curiosity exactly I know I know a chuckle and say I dont think its coincidence, that about this time, science, with certain to spread throughout Europe Usher. So the idea that this was gods wrath was it was taking a bit of a back seat to this is a human condition of some sort, yes, but not so far down the road of science to where there was this intermediate reed whether we got that right and is find out later. Science would eventually take part in ending the side chose my crew. Didn't ended anytime. Their candidate could look at it. So one of the first dumb viewing One of the first people put on display- and you know this is also going to be well get into it later, but the morality of this is very up and down with exporting people and these people that would normally be locked away actually having super lucrative careers, sure long, lasting made them writ

I think one of the authors of figures crack it points out that there early on. If you were in a freak show, there was a good chance that you have been abandoned by your parents. I became aware of the state and adopted by somebody who just ruthlessly exploited. You maybe barely took care of you, but one thing you can definitely say to us: as Barnum came into in basically normalized created an industry out of freak shows, therefore, freak shows conditions, definitely changed and exploitation seems to have lessened somewhere I think that, with the big names like Norman and Barnum, I think there all manner of a minor sideshows. It probably didn't treat them as well. And usually Barnum. Norman bought their curiosities from those minor sideshows. Lesser omen,

Zactly sort of my time, Norman out of England. Yet there are basically counterparts yeah and what will get into them back to one of the earliest courting quote freaks Was manning Lazarus Colorado, not Colorado, who was a conjoint when he had a brother, Johannes who was upside down on his chest and technically using parasitic twin too out Lazarus, oh I'm going to end, I they were can join, but your highness like didn't eat, he he could. He didn't speak. He never opened his eyes, in fairly the only way you could get a physical reaction out of him with a few rubbed his chest. That would make him squirm like Clayton, to recall very much so he went on to her arm performed before King Charles, the first narrowly sixteen forties, but it was not a big. Deal it wasn't. A super lucrative sideshows weren't really a thing at that point now, but this

I was saying you guys are gonna ostracize me. Well, I'm going to charge you to look at me then, and I'm going to support myself and my brother doing this. He did it himself It is not clear whether he worked with the manager, not promoter, but he definitely made his own choice to go. Do this yet subject and he was apparently and otherwise handsome man. That's how everyone described him right, which I think, probably for the court or bureau who came and looked at him public is made even more mind boggling. You know, but he's sure, good, guy right, right, pity Barnum, and I think we should do in a whole pike S on Pity Barnum at some point to really close out the circuit sweet. Although we shouldn't mentioned again in the show now Barnum, as is a teenager, he always had a pension. For making money is one of those magnets sort of weird ways

he ran a zone lottery is a teenager in Connecticut he said: here's. What I'll do I can to sell these tickets? Give out. Prizes? In varying levels, from twenty five dollars on down the like twenty five cents and a lottery, and I M, but it was very well thought out for a teenager. He wasn't dislike just one prize. He spread it out, so you would entice people to play more and he actually made a lot of money from it until they outlaw the lottery years, making like eleven green in today's dollars a week as a teenager as yet. Ninety, not bad in Connecticut in the rest of the countries are no more lotteries for now will bring that backup. Don't you worry C, b c and I M p to find other ways to make work moved to New York City and eight. In thirty five he had you know

in his were allotted, started Motorman, Norman and second, but he got his cue one said: here's one idea by a person by my first freak, this blind paralyzed slave woman This is a hallmark of free choses. I'm gonna make up a story about her. That's it national and in crazy, like a really believe it or not, kind of thing I am in Barnum in particular, was well known for its taking these things to the ants agree like shirt. No one's gonna buy that, but he can sell it in such a way that people believed it because they were, spiritually, dumber back then heat. The story for her was that she was a hundred and sixty years old. I was George Wash injuns nurse and you can pay them. Here when in fact she was only eighty years old. She was half that age yeah. Her name was Joyce Head if you're just a little baby right. Yes, he was an old labour.

Whose paralyzed and blind and was being exploited by Pity Barnum within the year before her death so she dies, but before then like as his touting her as a hundred and sixty old former Nursemaid, the George Washington, that gets an initial reaction and then ticket sales drop and then pcbs. Did something quite smart. He wrote an anonymous letter. Do a Boston, newspaper and accused himself of being a fraud in saying that the the hundred and six your woman was a fake, was actually a machine. A robot made of Wales, skin and wood and ticket sales went right through the roof again. What a guy there should be a good movie about him. I can't

not like a modern when I'm sure there is no surely like that with their when the great show on earth was a movie right leg, India, Griffith moving, or somebody asked me that that, like Tom Cruise, I am not directed by Michael Bay, Russell crocheted known, a rough grow, how bout who could play pity Burnham, you know who he would be good at it, but it must be so him, SAM, Rockwell, out totally he got in absolute, rather see somebody even broader playing there. I heard without ina- oh God We would have had gonna, who had been playing a myth, is friggin, Hugh Jackman. And evolving man, Korea, because he can do cartwheel yeah. What were you gonna say I somebody it may have been during the bill gates in view of the issue that somebody said that knows unseen it Tom Hanks is the most trusted.

In America but like it for some poor found that, like the most trusted person in America's Tom Hanks, where we analysed I'll think certainly no yet addressed on we're not even also ran were neurons. So the heap, just that woman. What was her name? Joyce hath joy jail. I see HTTP four thousand dollars in he made about that every week from exploiting her. I imagine that she got very little about the other You can't necessarily say that I didn't see what she was paid if she was very likely paid and she was probably fairly well taken care of especially considering that she probably just in this, is based on how by treated other people later yet and documented manner, but he

no one is a rescued from slavery because she went from being a slave to being. Only Somebody who exhibited are sure, but it's not again, he or given that her situation got worse after she, sheep was purchased by Barnum bright. They make sense. Yes, man, I felt like a minefield talking about slavery, human exploitation a blind warming areas also parallel. Yes, good good luck, sir! His first big hoax after that lacks Vegas. It wasn't a hoax aside from the made up story but he had a real who was a hoax. Well, I But this was a hoax in eighteen, forty two because it was nothing about it was real. He was promoting something called the Fiji mermaid, which was basically rogue

Sid army is all it was exactly what it was: a creature with ahead of a monkey and the tail of a fish that he bought from japanese sailors. While he didn't, he got it from an sailor who bought it from jail right and actually use japanese fishermen, yet any what's the difference while they're like traditional, they didn't necessarily go to see. They were like islanders. Gotcha in this is like traditional art. For them. Folk are: okay, so not a sailor, right. That's pedantry, wanna! What's up so fixated on thing. There, and he least it for twelve fifty a week, twelve thousand fifty cents threat from from the owners of said road, Taxidermy any treaty pregnant pamphlets and try to commence everyone. It was some real thing, so he actually had a partner named. Believe I was Levice name is

if a million overlooked guy Levi Lyman. Do you imagine like being Pity Barnum's partner, like you'd, never be analysed I like anyway, so leave. I Lyman posed as the english doctor, a scientist who was imposition. Of this mermaid and dumb peaty. Barnum very publicly was trying to get his hands on the mermaid in this guy was very publicly resisting and because it Man, science in this is the real deal right and it helps to convince everybody, including the newspapers like this- is the genuine article, Antaeus robes Odin Nation, a world of rubies there. It seems like here Opening of the museum on Broadway in New York City? I'm eighteen forties, you know sort out, you know, like, I really believe, you're, not gonna, think curiosities and weird things yeah. His stock in trade, and then we should talk about his counterpart in England get Army Norman, Tommy, Norman

was named. The silver king and Barnum actually gave him that name apparently after meeting him and he said boy what you'd silver, showy silver watch. You have there you're the silver king, because I am still remain I've been waiting. My whole life for some, I notice exactly. He was doing the same thing in England and here actually he toward with Joseph Merrick. The elephant man yeah, and he got them castigated by water. People Senor exporting the sky Eric and John Joseph Wood as a John yeah, ongoing thing, though, is it yeah I can remember if it's well, let's find out now it's Joseph for sure. Had his misspoke Arthur attacked and specifically in a memoir by Doktor, Frederick, Treves called the elephant. Man and other reminiscences and he shot back and he said you know I haven't mistreated. Merrick have an abuse them. He was forced to do anything in it.

In fact the big majority of show men on the head, Treating their novelties as human beings and in a large number of cases, as one of their own, not like beasts right. So you know that the morality battle was being waged. Back then yeah- and I mean, if you you think about this time, when people would go look at people who have physical, deformities and pay for it. You just look at him to stand You think the whole world is pretty evil in a moral sure at the time, not necessarily true, there's a a lot of people who railed against this stuff like Frederick tree there, who is on his portrayed by Anthony Hopkins right, let him alone. Yeah? He was in the alpha man a movie, or was he actually merricks? Doktor? Yes, I'll get another year mean that movie, yet they lunch one of the best. Ever

and then there was a an historian who, at the time I think, unlike the eighteenth sixties, he wrote His name is Henry may here and in eighteen. Sixty one is british. He wrote that on that these creatures were nothing more than human degradation and he said something that suck out to me Chuck He said that the men who preside over these infamous places know too well. The failings of their audience- I think you really Hit the nail on the head by he wasn't using the showman, because I think he understood that the most of these people were just under contract right any wasn't accusing the people, the actual human curiosities, the freaks themselves. He was rightly placing the blame for all this on the observers. Gawker right like if there wasn't a market for it, they wouldn't be doing it. Yeah, like you're the one who is having the moral failing who's, paying the go, see this person who may or may not be exploited. You dont know there and,

It's really on you audience is pre Slaughter foresight Rebecca, I thought so too. So it's not like at the point was it's not like everybody was just going along with this. People have had a problem with the basically the whole time right reaches were around right, the break in we'll talk a little bit more about the evolution of these sideshow ready for this yeah, New year's resolutions are very, very difficult to keep getting exercise save more money. What about this? We have a resolution that you can really work with stop wasting time going to the post office that right, you stamps dot com instead because they bring all the services of the Eu S postal service right to your computer, with your small business sinning invoices

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I brought my pencil. What's the Vienna right or man I didn't get there first view, I'm impressed that The good life, those four men Hellenes popular song, hot for teacher, yet from nineteen. Eighty four- and we are now nineteen eighty stages so that such as became a legitimate thing in a big way to make money. There were different kinds. One called a tin in one show, which I believe the side so psycho by the seashore is today blue minor. You did it my missing teeth, and that is when you have ten people on display on a platform at once in people, this walk by look at him. Yes, it's not like a performance is just there's a bearded lady there's the dog face boy theirs, that's a good man and they're all stand in their yeah, that's a tin in one! I could you look. You Yoko,

they had things- and this was all too to drum more money. They would advertise. Something is adults only or a man only even performance, while the men only performance frequently had a stripper will or suffer they thought there were were just like a woman shouldn't see your children shouldn't see. I don't know there is much that is, if it, just tramp up like oh my god, it's so bad that a woman can't seat lay her eyes upon it. I see. Adding is all part of that. The show that's my feeling is one of the things that they displayed, where some call the pickled punk, which awful. It is, firstly, when you find out what it yeah, it's basically add an abnormal foetus in it. EL, the hide and ajar, and you can by and look at pickled punks and dark at them. Funny it's it's awful. Yet this is work people

Id like on Saturday night in Kansas, so that the usually this decide shows the freak shows who at first there you would be some enterprising entrepreneurs in some small town, and you would know Is there a little young sir head on a third leg? You, your thought was. I can really make some money with this kid, you're gonna their parenting and say I will give twenty percent of all of the earnings of your child. If you let me take him on the road and he will stay in the finest hotels and where the best clothes as the human tripod. Exactly here and that the EU will become famous in the world, will love him Let me handle, I'm gonna be his manager from now on, and the parents were very frequently, especially if they were poor would say, that's great yeah, new! That give me some money up front, though, by the way you especially because a lot of times some these people were burnt

on their family sure because of their health condition yup. So they were here to be rid of them, that's all very sad, okay! So that's how I would definitely started out and then in a went on like that for a very Time is well below Barnum and now a Norman in some of the other guys the big eyes came round. They were just basically keep an eye out for that kind of thing, or they would be approached by these guys, who essentially be middlemen, kind of like gum. Somebody discovered a boy band selling their contract to a bigger record company, but this was with human curiosities. People with the third leg hyper psychosis or what value and then Barnum we'd take em in. We would just whatever exaggerated origin story that they came with it, just throw it out and come up with one ten times more yet in work during his George Washington's nursemaid Joyce have died. Who is not your truck,

he started looking around for his next collaborator. If you could call man- and he found out that he had a distant cousin, a fifth cousin named Charles Stretton, who had stop growing when he was about two years old yeah, he may never completely stopped. He grew very slowly. They made Just over three feet. I think by the time is deaf ear. He died at forty five of a stroke and he was three point. Three five feet tall, but, So slowly I mean you know he was. He was general term from very famously renamed. General Tom Thumb by his half fifth twice, remove cousin pity. Well, what is it stand for even Paul Thomas,

Anderson by so he said you know what this is great you're, a small person and you're cute as Dickens Salami Dress, you up in little adult suits men. It here a new sidekick yeah. Here he collaborated with the kids dad and said: let some let's make some money He he taught him how to sing and dance yet Detenus Napoleon aided impressions Cupid, he played Cooper sometimes you and then he told everybody that this little five year old kid was actually eleven. We needed all the more astounding that he was that small, which he didn't even need to do now and then for you about the next, like fifteen or so years, turn Tom Thumb into what was essentially the first international celebrity. I was the first international level pretty much while yet Tom Tom was a sensation dear Queen Victoria was a huge fan, met met with

twice to do at least twice. She apparently was really big decide shows, but Tom Tom was her favorite and he they they made so much money offer their first european tour. That Barnum bought his museum with the proceeds is there anything grocer than the queen of England laughing at a small person imitating Napoleon format. She may resent no, not only in at the time. I'm sure they're probably made it all the money order, unbelievable so, but he was, he was a rich, do He was paid in today's ours who Tom Thumb, oh yeah, yeah over four thousand hours a week, and retired and lived the high life in New York City, and you know he didn't feel

He was exploded. No, he he actually got married. I saw that he had children, but I could. I only saw that one place it in seed anywhere else, but he was married and actually right after the marriage was brought to the White House to hang out with Abraham Lincoln and MRS Lincoln. Yet here twenty three and people at his funeral here he was again he was a very big deal and from what I hear at the end of the day. He shed is persona. He was just Charles Stretton Goober, wealthy some little person yet and when he was doing his show, he Tom Thumb who were dressed up as Napoleon or whatever and take your money, but I'm here he is He Barnum together really made a kind of Caste Tom Tom was little better at managing is cast them Barnum Wise, because Barnum Phelan Hard Times a lot of people don't realize it, but he made some actually really bad investments over

over time to yet he invested a lot of money initially back into his business, which was smart right in a but a lot of times. He would be like this is gonna, be a hit in it wouldn't be a hit him. He didn't have the MIDAS touch necessarily and he fell in for hard times more than once more in Times Tom Tom Retrial, Stretton bail them out really I get the feeling. Barnum didn't know it. Well enough alone you now I get a big, thriving business and he just got wanting to push it further. Assure you Jackman, I'm telling you so now we will talk about a couple of people who are afflicted. With something well, they were Microsoft, so phallic, which means that they have a cone head smaller than normal faith, TAT is well yes, if you ve ever Europe. Howard stern fan than you know, beetle juice. He has his condition and they used to call them. Pin heads back in the day, yes awful,

and there were a couple of notable. I am not even going to keep saying that, but a couple of notable people that performed in the freak shows that one was a zip William Henry Johnson, renamed zipped Z, IP he's from New Jersey born newly freed slaves. And when Barnum found him, he says you know, I'm gonna do and make up a story: that. You were found during a gorilla expedition near the Gambia River out your head, except for a little ponytail tuft on top and address you in a suit of fur, and you get up on the stage and grant like an animal He was paid a dollar a day at first, do not talk to grant and I guess the violin really badly yeah. I didn't get he paid a dollar a day to start ok, I thought that might have been part of the story but he was in fact made a hundred dollars a day. Later. Ok, he he became a very popular freak.

The thing is. Is he William Henry Johnson was probably Microsoft, phallic at all, he Microcephaly Microsoft, Forthinketh totally different microcephaly. He actually they now that he had just like a slightly abnormally shaped head. There was exaggerated by the hair cut that they gave him. He actually had no diminish mental faculties once wait. What at all and uses pretending the whole time and not only fooling crowds but he's, falling promoters? Yak is One of the hallmarks of that condition is, I believe, that usually it's company by cognitive, stunted cognitive development get usually very severe yeah, but not in his case. You super smarten. When he died said we fill them all life, no sister, those on his death bed. There are married! Not true, though you made a lot of money to he did he apparently. Tired with millions

a millionaire. So here the only became pinhead is what this specific type of freak was called me, and I can't believe it. You said that because it so wrong, but there's a variable sideshow performer. Ok in Czech another very thing, psycho performer, who was also, I guess technically in the under the Umbrella of Pinhead. Who actually was microcephaly right was slippery. Yes, slits he's one of my favorite people, all time. Yes, let's see they don't know for sure his real name, but they believe it. Simon Metson, born in as you know, one the Bronx, and dumb by all accounts from everyone who ever met Lizzie everyone loved solidity, and he was

ray of sunshine, a nice sweet, caring kind, hearted man, yes, love life, anything that you would take for granted she'll see probably enjoy the heck out of and dumb. He was very frequently build. As a woman, I think he was bills as Tech aztec warrior at first and then maybe even ass, tat woman, but he bore dresses all the time, because he was incontinent here, and this is made it the whole thing easier here, so he was built for a very long time in including in the movie freaks the tab, Browning movie from nineteen thirty two I slits he was in that and slid the actually has like this big scene. That's like He has a whole speaking likes. A dialogue can be this day no one has any clue what he says. Yes, we talk about, for example, or take a break in the dark about. Let's take a break,

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Yeah in properly called a haze code for five years there you can do We wanted, I guess near and that's when this direct remain Todd. Browning made a movie called freaks about psycho performers, and this guy was they actually ran away that the direct your actually ran away and joined the carnival when he was sixteen and worked as a carnival barker. And even participated in stance- and he was work is guy right and he had a lot of psycho performers as friends, and you can tell in the movie that that's he's like that's, who he's societies on yeah, that's too that there, the heroes of the story, teller, yeah, the protagonists, the antagonists, Sir Normal, sir, whatever right and it's a really morally fur

movie these days, but if you just stepped back in and think of, it is like this guy having an affinity for psycho performers and giving them a shot at stardom, yet being on the big screen for what they are for we are for what they can do then really kind of a heart growing tale. But the heart growing piano in a very weird way interested. Printing the watch the window. I saw a college Lisbon. One can see it again very took it out like it's, it's tough, what's he got wrenching. There are a lot of them. Well, as you talk about some the performers in the movie one of them, hands out is Johnny EK, John Eckart Junior it was a twin and he was and with a condition everywhere said that he was cut off at the waist. Not exactly true actually had unusable,

under developed legs that you never saw, but it appeared as though he didn't have anything from the torso down my and as from a young kid I believe he was even walking on his hands before his twin brother was even standing. Really, so he is very advanced and waterways. Very smart guy owes he's a painter. Ever accomplish magician and we had a great personality teakettle. Yet, apparently he was good bodies with thumb browning, an browning always wanted him around by side and was like you know. You need a come sit with me by the camera. Almost like his own of eat, like could consider Morocco Director, but he always wanted him near by rainy days. Inviolate Hilton you can join, yeah, which they called siamese twins back in the day, thanks to China nine bunker right yeah. They were actually some. The first super famous,

either from Asinius Fishing Village and that's where the term came from. Yet SAM was what we now call Thailand at right. In championing were born in nineteen o eighteen eleven and they act performed on their own. For many years now made a ton of money, the got married, had kids moved North Carolina hip, hop places, and dumb that well, actually interestingly daisy our ended up North Carolina to her oh yeah, but under much much worse conditions. But I'm to finish with jangling. They eventually ass, their money. They were millionaires, lost her dough and then were worked for Barnum later on in life, but I get the impression that they did it like at their leisure, almost and ended up ray amassing and other fortune hunters from working with Barnum and they father twenty one children between Mary to Paris, sisters PAN and we're not gonna join each had a house than they would spend

days at one out of three days at the next house and the other had twenty one kids pretty made so our daisy and by what helped me were known assignments, twins back. Then, of course we don't Germany more, but I mean I remember that term. When I was a kid, it's definitely like held on four wait too long. Member Ronnie, dining galleon are they still with us with find out you checking that continue, I believe that that Browning, spotted daisy, inviolate and said he has a great you pretty can sing you be. A big part my movie and they did and performers along by eighteen? They were onto Bob Hope as part of his dance troop and made quite a bit of money, but sadly their story ends in North Korea. Because they made an appearance in nineteen

He wanted a midnight showing of freaks at a drive in their manager, ditched him and at this point it out yet had no way to leave North Carolina, so they just stay there. The only had to get a job that seems a variety of any money. You know into called ask for money. You go get a job at a girl. She soaring that you can lead eventually die there. It seems like they would have gotten enough money to leave and go back to wherever they live or die North Carolina of the Hong Kong flew. What is that it was a flu epidemic cheese. It originated in Hong Kong, but it's a different world back then I'm is Twins Data Hong Kong, flew. None of that seems politically correct. You know who else was in freaks. Jesse There were a pair of little people named hurrying

the earls and they played HANS and Frida right. Yes and HANS is like the ring master of these sites, and dumb Fredo in real life, Daisy was is the Midget Mae West end? the movie their engaged but actually realized. They were brother. Yeah and they were in the wizard of OZ, even as munchkins and workable. Movies with laurel and hearty as well so lifelong performers get so the this whole movie and again we can it. We didn't finish with a slit. Ceaselessly was in it too and had his whole, big speaking, part heiresses adorable in the movie. Yet you, like the sluices personality, shines right through the movie. Here very likeable and dumb slits II was actually adopted. There. No one had any idea who slit is vital.

Google family was right. They were not around, so the the people he performed with and worked for actually took care of them, and when his adopted father died, his father's death, biological daughter said: hey surety, I'm going to commit you too Salem in LOS Angeles, and that's where swiftly was until one day, despite total chance such a another circus performer thickest sword swallow area name. Bill acts, build your slits, what are you doing here? You look so sad and felicity was like. I remember you, let's go so belong intervened and got slipping out of the institution, and he got to live out his days hanging out in the park being recognised by passers by Gay

the near Macarthur Park in downtown airlines and lived all the way up until nineteen seventy one year at age. Seventy one yeah, so you know you gotta, see sleazy, you should see freaks, but even if you don't see freaks it like look up, slits he's part agreed at a public. Make you wanna see freaks so check. The freak show is some people say that is still around, and that is just on tv in the form of reality shows near like basically that same sentiment in everything still has found. All over television yeah, exploiting the people like exporting obesity and exploiting dwarfism answer. Yes on television now, but the actual side show itself. It's well. I went away in a lot of ways, at least as far as like a traveling side show

and they went away with the rise of the rights for the disabled that that other movement that came along in the starting in about their like late nineteenth, very early twentieth century in the really gaining steam. By about the time freaks came around the movie. Yet a few things that cannot killed it, but one was deafening. Like you said: science invented an killed it as an here's, something that is sort of reprehensible That I found out is that a lot of these sideshows withdrawing keep doctors away from the people because they thought I don't want a doktor coming in here and saying that the dog Facebook, actually has hyperdrive Croesus the condition where you have here all over your face: yeah I told everybody was a year cave caveman, exactly You know. Actually there is another there's a woman named Julia Pastrana and she had hyper psychosis too, and she

I ended up marrying her manager were married. They had a baby together and she die during childbirth as in the baby was born stillborn. And her husband manager, who ostensibly loved her said, almost go on there, though he mummified his wife and there still born baby and then took him around the display them, while in the side show as ever, unbelievable cell began: doctors will come along and start explaining these things in that helped killed a sideshow. Other eyes of a vision- and you know at home, entertainment met people weren't, going out to places like cycles anymore area could stay in their house and watch television and apparently could still find sideshows like the american horror story, was a freak show. An exact Leslie No one ever nearer watch that, but there were certain. I think the fifties, and I think at that time you could still see

You know travelling sideshows here there, but they were pretty broken down area. By that point they were pretty pretty much gone, but by this six There was a girl named Carol Browning and she I all I could find that she had deformed arms and legs. I don't know what that means, but that was the description I was giving given over, but she went to aside oh, and when she visited the car all in North Carolina. I think she lived in short, no Raleigh and Carol. What is it with North Carolina? where things begin and end well with the soldiers involved. Carol Carol Grant Was a name Carol, wrote a letter to the agricultural commission. The agricultural Agricultural commission is in charge of sideshows at the time, at least in Austria alliance. That is wrong.

Like this is beyond wrong. I'm I'm offended by this in this that this should not be allowed to happen, and she actually sparked a national conversation about whether sideshows should be allowed to be around. Even if performers wanted to be a part of him- and that was the death now that conversation, but a lot of people came out and said: hey you know what these people you, you guys com, but you also empty your pockets to end their wealthy. They they enjoy claim they enjoy the money right, an damn. It's actually you who has the problem right and it didn't have much of an effect. Sideshows went away in the light of the psycho. Performers ended up, go from being pretty wealthier, well paid or having a steady and come into being broke in ending like being abandoned by their managers: Lake Daily, inviolate yeah: it's a bit tricky ground!

is, is pretty much said all the way through the egg Emily, except for some success story, church, and that makes think so morally ambiguous. If you think about it like it is see the look from here. Be like you name your movie freaks right or you you. You charge people to look at the elephant, man. What about those people who say I'm cool this on signing on for this year. This has made a lot of very wealthier. I'm happy I've. I've had all sorts of opportunities that work. Can it be before, and I love what I do. What do you do about that? Like you can't condemn it? easy black and white thing to say the oh yeah. It's called well. Ambiguity said that there have always been them them. Those their moral ambiguity, there are always will be anything else. You want,

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