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and this is part two of two other special to part theories. That's right! I'm HIV Aids, yeah. If you didn't listen, the first one I would suggest you do that, you're gonna be lost if volume Yolanda in jokes, referential gets back to the first one. We explained it in the first one yeah, that's very important and like the actual nuts and bolts adze, some skipper had dumpy lazy, so check we left off you're talking we talked originally about. You know that the different varying levels of risk, depending on the type of intercourse, depending on the type of group you remember, of we talked about how it works where it came from. Why what could possibly be? to talk about. As far as HIV can is concerned, there is a lot earlier. Yak, as we did not touch on another being toy is a seal. Your notes and money earlier, look at all, but one thing

talk about that we're gonna start with is treatment. Now it's a big one. When you wanna go and talk about the AIDS cocktail. Yes. So back in ninety ninety one, a very, very, very famous basketball player named urban MAGIC Johnson play for the elderly, announced that he was retiring from the NBA because he had been diagnosed with HIV. I remember the day there was a huge deal out the southern for some weird reason that weaken. That is weird. It was a big deal there I mean you talked, I think, glass episode about easy catching it, and you know that was there was a big deal. This is probably even bigger. I think you're a magic Johnson was bigger name than easy, even more widely recognized him among more people

he was a sports figure. You straight what the hell's going on. Then I remember thinking like many people. The time oh, my gosh MAGIC Johnson is dying. Yes, I think a lot of people, most people who are familiar with this thought well he's gone or in a couple years near, but he kept living me kept living and he kept living. He came back and play more basketball. Even I didn't know that you gotta be pretty fit. For that sure any kept living in everybody thought what the heck happen with MAGIC Johnson and it turned out that he had access few, what's now known as the highly active anti retroviral therapy, a k, a heart which is now these standard of treatment for

HIV and he had access to it a couple years before it became widespread in the ethnic ninety. Ninety five, it has helped keep him alive. He recently he was thirty two when he announced that he was diagnosed with HIV and he turned fifty six and two thousand fifteen, but ass the thing very, very long lifespan, especially for somebody who is diagnosed in the early nineties, where people were still like what is going on here. They're, so correct magic Johnson got a head start. Because he super famous are well that had something to do with it. I think I m very rich well, but he was he was willing to. It was still in the in the experimental phase of that point you have, but I'm sure there are plenty of HIV Pace Interrelated do whatever you need to do to cure me sure, but didn't have the money. So he got a jump on it, but he has not. I think a lot of people think that he is getting some others

treatments that no one else is getting here, he's paying his way into. Something is supposedly ears that canyon, which doktor rumor. Getting the same treatment that other people are getting an, there are plenty of people that have live longer than him. Oh yeah and he's just the most famous and that's a good thing, because he's a beta activists and AIDS, active military idea not to disparage anything about magic gas, and he defiling took that that label at a time when it was you that was a gay disease there and he became an HIV activists. We could say specifically.

He does not and never has had AIDS heat. His tea helpers cell count never got to the two hundred thousand or less mark yet so he's HIV positive, and he is still like a good. We said in the last resort to chronic disease because reservoirs develop, and I believe it was a couple years between diagnosis and treatment for him. So there's reservoirs had a chance to get a foothold yeah, but he got it early enough that he has lifespan is at its. Basically, that was twenty four years that he's been alive since diagnosing that's pretty normal for people who are treated with the heart cocktail in

in a bowl time, after being yes diagnosed, which the finding that window of time is in tensely important do yeah we're gonna get to that man. That was a great article III set, so we took a heart, yeah, hearts or cart or just art, whichever you want to call it a collar art with her heart with the Dublin. I call it. The AIDS cotton Oh yes, another word! So each one of these drugs. We talk about in part. One is very specific to its task to basically disrupt. As many stages of the process as possible Should we go through this, Artie eyes nuclear side reversed transcript days, inhibitors. They basically block the ability to replica. Yeah, I remember the reverse transcript days, takes the RNA yet instructions for the viral creation,

and turns it in a dna which is then inserted into the city for post. He so neatly strike you block that the big problem for the HIV virus near to big problem in an already eyes non nuclear side, reverse transcription inhibitors. They disable approach in another. Protein requirements replicate yet another disruption, p eyes pro tease inhibitors, so protein was that was the one that actually cut the Polly peptides ended, their individual components tell yet yet a long chain of enzymes that may arise virus supported and get right and cut him up. So the thing that cut him up isn't there is heavily chains, and they build up in its basically like gum. Lucy's run in the Chocolate factory assembly line to settle the matter

Then you have entry, fusion inhibitors, they block the ability to enter the city for cells to begin with and then finally into raise inhibitors once they get in that city for cell. We talked about the inserted that genetic material and basically blocks the ability to do that. So the current cocktail recommended cocktail are too, in Artie eyes in the shaker one in an archie I and apply and then either integrates inhibitor or a righto neighbour, which I don't know that, as you know, was to say it's the the key Sates Thea the victors. In the cocktail nice, an exit, bright, you put it all in there. You shake it up. You ve got your aids cocktail. Once you put that into place, you catch it early enough.

You can bring your mortality rate just about to normal yeah like it's. It's a chronic disease yeah and near immune system will probably not become so compromise that you're gonna die from something right. You need for life and everyone is supposed to be on this cocktail, although if you have had to be have a recent city fork, count below five hundred or if you are pregnant, the You are given priority right and it's all gonna cost you about ten to twelve thousand dollars a year, although that is supposed to increase and the reason why you have to stay on indefinitely because we said in the last four so that each ivy produces reservoirs of inactive virus instead to spread throughout the body and accumulate

and even when you are treating what amounts to one outbreak, another one can come very soon afterwards. That's what makes it chronic right, yeah with heart. It will eventually get all these reservoirs, but it takes a think. We sit sixty to eighty year here so very long time right, so there's been some suggestions as to how to read it This disease a little faster, yellow using your heart, different ideas, which is great- I mean they're, really smart people are coming up with different strategies. One of them is kind of nuts, but also which, while the one that uses press Stratton, I believe, is what it's called. It basically goes in and says Are you in an act of HIV? So well, I'm in activate you create, basically, is making an HIV outbreak take place. We you're doing it, while you're under heart care right. Yet the way thought of it was it's like flesh.

Out. Those invisible reservoirs, so the only way that the fuss about is the activism again going so that he sells actually know it's there, so that scary sounding it is that the heart treatment also disrupts their function. So it starts him up and apparently they won't stop and go back to sleep or go Gorman again once they start up yes answered him up, the heart treatment keeps them from doing what they want to do normally and then all these so that their infecting will die sooner than later and just get it over with. So it's basically away there trying to figure out to accelerate and HIV infection, while in the presence of highly active anti retroviral therapy. Fruit keeps you from actually dying from this accelerated HIV infection is pretty cool. Yes, that's one strategy, they call it anything that Shikar something called the wildcatters gunslingers near the gunslingers

I think we should get to this next. This is you send an awesome article from the Pacific standard for getting the zero or close to a cure for aids, and the city of San Francisco is doing something there they're pretty radical out there in San Francisco sure you know, he's out there. So what they're trying to do is they're trying to make their city the first city, with no new infections, no death enough stigma and they call the programme getting to zero and they're doing the signal and a lot of ways. Some of the background here is there is historically over the past few days It hasn't been a ton of money allocated towards finding a cure for aids. Yet in not because for various reasons I think a lot of people, especially nuclear, like of because is gay disease yeah, I think, is it spread out uncertain

thing more non gay people and more nine gay white people. It started to get a lot more funding, but it also didn't get alot of funding because a lot of people like we can cure this. It's an incurable disease. Yet I think I am I think cynics might also say like it's. You make a lot more money to keep people on drugs for life than you do, gearing something, but from what I can tell The main reason was because it was such an scary thing they put all their efforts into trying to save people who got HIV and coming up with these these this drug tat cocktail. However, things are changing, which is good, in two thousand and eight two thousand nine, those very cool case. But they re Brown. He was the Berlin Patient year. The second Merlin Asia. There was another one in the mid nineties, I don't know yet

I know everything because an anonymous Berlin patient in the mid nineties. You think got HIV. And then no longer had HIV while, but what's up with Berlin seriously schools, but Timothy Round was a special case. He's an American that was living. There's a translator, HIV positive answer taking medications and then about decade later found out. Had he had leukemia so his doctor very clever person, dude zero hooter hero was calm hero. I think Europe He said he had a very weird, a unique idee idea. He said why don't we see if we can take their these people out there? One percent of carcase year, one percent of people who have approach occasion. People cc are five which basically make,

them immune to HIV. They lack that protein yeah, that's a protein. On the surface of year, I t help or sell that the HIV virus docks with can't doc can effect, and very few people have this one percent. He said why don't we try and find someone like that who can donate their bone marrow, which is where stuff like that is produced tap into this guy and basically basically replaces immune system with with this one percent are and not that kind of one percent, and secondly, to be rich, I get rich bone marrow, so he did that they found someone that had that those a good match and it worked it worked like he was functional. You're of HIV? I think like fully carried, it was like they keep testing, em and test again. This is, I think, two dozen eight or ten thousand nine yes and

That is my guy. No signs. Yeah, I dont know that enough people have been cured of HIV Aids so the day it's like with them with cancer. I think if your five years rule out any kind of growth its consider remission, I don't think they have a standard like that yet another, but so they keep testing this guy in his it's not coming back these reservoirs or not becoming active again it there appear that he has a tv or aids any longer right and the doktor was excited, obviously, but he also new like well. We obviously cannot go around replacing in our peoples immune systems with these one percent sure, but what it did was a kick started knew how and now all of a sudden, it I'll send those new funding for trying to find a cure who anyways what they call a proof of concept. I think we mention nice episode. It showed that AIDS can be cured, yeah before this only about three percent of AIDS and HIV Funding, I went to cure research

now there are new grants, tolling fourteen point, six million a year and Obama in two thousand thirteen said you know what another hundred million toward a cure over three years. What the money is the one hundred million used to be what it is today and I had to sounds like sure yet stone money around cookie, such nice funding So we talk to believe in the first episode about catching it early, there's another story here. Basically how works now, as you can get diagnosed Hiv and until you're t sell count, falls below a certain number you're, just like nigh on any drugs like you have to get sick before you get treated in most cases there I well yeah. That was the old. I mean that's what it says.

This thing you found out was the all the old icy yeah. That was the old guard. I got two yet, though, the new the the bleeding edge right now. In it. The healthy leaving aids is quite the opposite of that year because they found, if you get to it, super early like those first few days and weeks after you get HIV in the bloodstream is when its most dangerous, very critical, most easily spread, found that if people who take these drugs right then or ninety percent less likely, ninety six per cent less likely to pass it on to a sexual partner. Here's why again, one of the insidious pernicious characteristics of HIV infection is that inactive reservoirs build, which makes it a convict, is easier and again when you first are exposed to HIV. European system can mount a pretty decent defined on its own, yet you have those reservoirs just yet right in its those reservoirs that eventually overwhelm your immune system and can lead to your death. If your treated with

very early on after infection does reservoirs, never have a chance to build Europe, and their infection that you do have is helped with this extra therapy in your immune system can defend against it and its it. These these people feel like the time is such a critical essence, better ward, eighty six, which is the legendary, the United States at least first dedicated AIDS, ward aid, clinic yet San Francisco general the very cutting edge. Then they led a lot of treatment programmes for HIV and AIDS over the years, but they have this programme now where they will pay for a cab for you to be brought from your doc. Office, where you were just diagnosed two words, eighty six to be treated right, then with heart to begin treatment. Yes, doctor a researcher com, old hero you a tunnel. Another here another hero, you're right,

program is rapid, which the first letter also stands for. Rapid I know I don't think that's ok well, will give it a rapid. Is the rapid, anti retroviral program initiative for new diagnoses and, like you said, basically, it's a treat and test entreat programme where soon, as you know, you ve got it. They want to knock down any obstacle in your way, including that first copyright to get there and just go get going on that stuff, so you're not spreading disease, so we got orange men and stuff like that and we'll get to it right after this message

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from a year there are called the long term non, progressive or elite controllers elite of it. They preferred be quality control sure and made estimated anywhere from one. Two hundred the one in five hundred people they dont think magic. Johnson is one of these people which we talked about. No, he just responded well, they are, but there was a thought that he might be. And there is a project called the immunity project. It's a non profit that seeks a cure by setting the blood of these elite controllers, which I don't know what's controversial, but I have seen that other researchers or sand like don't do it

it's not gonna work here, maybe that's it. Maybe they think it's not resourced well, but they figured, I mean they they feel like they figured out. Why make silly controllers or gives them that tree apparently there's some proteins that show these people signal proteins in their body, that that show the immune system where the best placed to attack and HIV viruses yeah. So this genetic it is, but it's also like it's not like there's something weird with their own cells. It's like their Annie bodies are specialized to search and destroy HIV viruses, yet is weird. That's definitely for you want to study. Why not yet two hundred million out of the other part of this order for article from Pacific stand. Recent was interesting, though, is a case of a french girl she's. Now Change is infected with HIV from her mother during pregnancy or delivery

immediately started. I started on antiviral drugs, stayed on for six years, And then she stopped taking the medications for almost a year Usually when that happens is HIV just like really gets going again in its back on the move, because the reservoir here didn't happen in her case and so she stayed off them further and she's been undetectable for twelve years. So now there thinking maybe thing we can do is get people on the drugs super soon and then we them off of the drugs at a certain point and see if that works, basically by keeping get close eye on them, obviously not disappear like our it will see in a decade. Let me now goes

I mean why not so that's pretty promising to there's another potential strategy which is called shock and kill, and that is flushing out the particles into the circulatory system. So is that part of the when we talked about earlier? I think so. The pro stren, where that same thing, activates dormant HIV cells, to get them new attack, I would say if it's not the same drug or the same research group, it's the same principle, You know trying to awaken the sleeping beast and may give us some big problems: patient zero. It is that in the first episode yeah, I thought this a super interesting. You reference the book, movie in the band played on by the book, was Randy Shilts about the early days of AIDS and HIV.

And it is. There is now a book out called plain clear, and that is plain as an airplane airplane terrible Colin Labour, sexuality and aids in the history of male flight attendants. And there was a man named gluten. Do gas gating gate and I was a young j e t gazing? Do this he's canadian flight attendant his care backlog of Canadian? people come back this, maybe a national here they in this book. Basically, there was a big fear that this book wasn't going to sell and get any attention. So the book publishing it gives a thick hundred pages of methodical report. Here were there in the regulatory of of HIV idea and on the other

The editor now I'm or the publisher has come out said you know what we can have resorted to yell journalism by allowing and leaking this supposed patient zero. This gave flight attendant good, looking guy, who is very sexually active. He claimed to have more than twenty five hundred partners over tenure span for Emma early seventies, early eighties, fine all over the world, yeah, obviously suppliers in it, and they, Let the story leaked to the New York Times was in New York Times in your posts, but not only did they leave sorry. They really do. They really built up over stated the guy's role as depicted in the book to your basically like this guy brought

AIDS to the United States, Europe and North America. This guy is patient zero. They Craig, I think in the book. He does compare him to keep quiet, typhoid, Mary Railway, because he did, he did say like I'm, not gonna not have sex. Are you nuts? They are? There are some stuff that this guy definitely did do, and he was one of the early patients there, but lay the AIDS epidemic at this. One guy see is patently unfair, yeah and untrue that, as he was not the first person he was they did. Race in early on when they were tracing and around the country they labelled patients with allay as an scandals or New York like never before in why three as what they the number and where they were, and originally they said that his designation was o four out of California. Eventually that became zero.

And he got unfairly penned with spreading aids. He was. He was part of a small group of very travelled promiscuous gay men that did help spread AIDS, but he was not that the He was not patients you. He was a reason. You have every reason right but unfairly, labels, but in the end, ended up bringing a lot of attention to it. At a time. Hi! I know that's why they heard can undermine this. Whether editors are there. The editor of the book is emitting, and now I say I cannot. Ultimately it was a good move because it it help bottle. I bring a lot of attention to this through promotion of the book, but it is at the expense this one guy right and he died in March Thirtieth

in eighty four of guinea failure. Very sad. I think we need one more break, correct and then come back and we'll talk about some other celebrities who have helped put a face to AIDS and dumb its quilt prejudice. I your back yes, sir, you piece celebrities I am a celebrity. Everyone does love celebrities and someone who celebrity who dies of It is now more important than any other person who dies of AIDS, but they are vital

to putting a face on things into getting media attention and basically slapping people in the face who think can never get aids. You no easy. We mentioned here. It's definitely makes people or gives people pause. I didn't know. I didn't remember that some of these people died of AIDS. Rock Hudson was a big one. Absolutely Arthur Ash had forgotten about that. Oh yeah, Freddy Mercury, Isley, I was watching you ever seen Queen live in Montreal. I don't know. Maybe I was wearing em like white jumpsuit. White genes in the Superman. Thank that it's like he s, like queens famous he answered moving. That was on play him the other night. I have seen that thing, probably a dozen times. Every time I knocked out o your queen was great, infringing Murphy was just such a rock star did it was like, and at the time when I was a kid

now what gay was you now shirt morass? Knew you, like Freddy Murder in the house, the same kid who drew the village and agree on my mom was like what's going on there, but for a framework to see still blows me away what what a fantasy awesome rockstar. I wonder how the movie is gonna, be such varied Collins working he dropped out of that, he came back, oh, he did back on baby. Well, I think he will. He looks enough like him and he can do great impressions, but he's just Tom Lanky, so that bothers me wasn't forever mercury pretty tight little guy over here, another spitfire, some water I like Christoph Waltz playing a guy from Nebraska issued big half its. Did you see, then pile of duty ass, a movie bug me so much. Every moment of it, I'm just a nice man from them

ass, it was I who didn't even tried to copy. You didn't try to hide his exit at all. He didn't cause TIM burden. Probably wasn't even accept most of the time lag. Is these phoning it in Paris? He stinks now Look up, though, like why in the world that he cast them in timber and cause you got some black for music at is that it was more about it. Bearded, the guy, not Milady, headed heavy austrian acts. If, Mr Twelve, it maybe redo the character at TED, then there's all sorts of civic can do or goes a camera crew who castor? What is your name, the white girls in asian character word in it like the most recent, like his most recent movie, Aloha and yes, who I care, Amber native, very famous actor, the redhead yes from birdmen. Yes, she plays an asian character. Yes, yes, really

hang until with that girls get read about it after the eye, there was the one tangent for the two parties. Yet we have a lot in her. So back to our celebrities have passed from AIDS, Liberace is GM thousand anything to have you seen her behind the kind of opera greatness rate agreed against a g of the model yeah. That was a big one, because that was of a woman, for hers was from needles. Right, I think, sounds pretty heroin, attic imperialist fashion. Designer came Mister Brady himself, wherever red, yet great guy, I remember Pedro Zamora from the real world. That was a big deal, because I think in these cases can open the eyes of a different segment. Draw he was in an anti these real world before got really bad. He was one of them. I guess was the San Francisco he held up unwise, relied teenagers and kids, because it unfolded

in real time on television. I didn't know about that. At all yeah. I was really big big thing. Her Anthony Perkins AIR, Oh Brad Davis for midnight Express he was straight, but he was a drug user, so that can shine a light on that and then I keep hearing the artist Tom Fogarty of credence. John forget his brother got it through a blood transfusion so between here and Ryan why'd. You write like those are all really different segments, yet I think- that's. Why emitting them, because I think each segment like it shines a light to a different group of people who might be fans of theirs see your same. We're gonna fuck with AIDS quote, yeah they're, you anymore celebrities. Now I mean there are more celebrities in that, but we just went through a handful.

The eighth quilt. So you have ears in the movie milk yeah One of the main characters. Cleave Jones is a real person, as was Harvey milk who played collegians. I don't remember I want to say it was the dude from a big bang theory, but it's not I've never seen that job, but it looks a little bit like him. I really want to do their bit in unaware of pop culture. You known Santer. So anyway, I'm clean Jones was a guy who is a friend of Harvey Milks and dumb Harvey milk is very famously assassinated by Dan White. Yet another split in the twinkling offence I recognise the guy, I don't know it has been an. He was from the Dogtown and Z boys movie in among many other things, so. Are we milk was killed and in his honor starting in nineteen, seventy eight. I think Clean Jones organised a candlelight vigil for him and George must

on the mare who was also killed by Dan Y yeah, but in a hearty mercosur. The issues that I think the first openly gay politician in San Francisco, so user rights hero for sure, so it honours memory they would hold or clear Jones would organise these candlelight vigils and one in nineteen. Eighty five he found out that about more than a thousand timid systems had died of AIDS and he HU. During organizing the candidate visual. He asked people to write the names of those people down on a little cards here right now, and then he took the cards in some other volunteers at the end of the vigil, am posted them on the federal building wall and apparently it looks a lot like a patchwork, them and he thought the little life Oberon Affairs had include John said. I think we should make a quilt yeah They ve been trying to figure out a memorial for people who had died away.

Yeah. I didn't know how organic it was and how it started, and I just think it such a neat story that is so good that's very cliff in June nineteen. Eighty seven he arm while the first battle he cried. In memory of his friend Marvin Feldman and in June of eighty seven teamed up again. He might Smith and some other folks to organise the official names Project Foundation and they started pouring in these these pieces of quail these path started coming in from all over the country than all over the world and in the or of nineteen eighty seven- they displayed it for the first, what would be one two three four five times in its full glory in Washington DC near that with a big deal, the first time it was the size of a football field, yeah the last time they Splendid Chuck was when ninety ninety six with the last any, was much bigger. Wasn't it? Yes, it cover the entire.

National mall that really drives home area, which is the whole point right like look how massive the singing It has been on tour more than a half a million people visited the first weekend and since then It's got on many doors all over the country all over the world. His a lot of money, I think so far for three million dollars is right: oh yeah easily seems like it would be more than that sure where it says through this one project debts as the names proudly foundation is raised over three million dollars, enterprise they saw a nineteen. Eighty nine it was nominated. The quilt itself was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize that so cool and is still the largest community art project in the world. And if you have not seen the documentary common threads Coleman stories from the quilt, you should write and eighty nine, when the Academy award documentary and it has become a symbol.

Drew out of that. One neat little idea from candlelight vigil vehicle, pretty cool, need and the reason they are not showing it in full anymore. I think this is too big, which has said in a like: there's no space large enough to hold it. While I sucker you can I go to the desert somewhere. Oh yeah yeah yeah everything they get all sandy yeah. You don't do that beach spent weeks shaken that thing out here. Be tough cat. Can imagine like transporting that yeah. I don't know how to do it. I'm sure it's in pieces yeah. I guess they may re so the whole thing back together every time that they, so they probably just put it together. How I see? That's it, that's my guess and leisure.

I doubt if they folded up, is one piece: the throat and truck yaua. It will very quickly reach to the moon. Have you heard that you know it? You can folded paper. Now I only to paper. Several times and very quickly, it reaches right into outer space square. I thought something couldn't be folded more than a certain amount of times. That's a lie, is it was added dont be dumb? Yes, what's a number of times it was supposedly seven and this girl in high school I somewhere, unlike the early two thousands proved it is possible. She did over like eleven are somehow, but the paper that she used like went from. You know paper thin too, that after you know ten folds, and so she did the math to see after like twenty year, fifty folders and they like that it would hit the moon. I feel like a hundred and twenty four

that would expand further than the visible universe that core and now she volunteers with the AIDS will now approach holding it. That's right, you anything else, nope! No! I think you're! Right though we could. The whole entire podcast series. Out of this right yeah. I hope you did a good job. We tried Fifthly, I if you want to know more about HIV Aids, the you should go research that, especially for this AIDS day week, you can start by taking the word AIDS. Ending search bar has the forts that camp and since they said, search bar it's time for the cinema, yes, and if you are sexually active, go get tested, yak, that's a great way to celebrate its day. There is an active

a bright, observe about observe, observe yet so much harm. Celebrating a thing I think celebrating awareness is ok, that's acknowledgement. Thanks, bulimia, aright she's gonna be call listener mail at the end of the HIV Aids Series guys just recently came across her podcasting. Recommendation from howling Tracy Happiness and MR glass of things just finish, listening to ten most disturbing medical procedures and have a story, my husband recently, I was diagnosed with many years disease a while he was being diagnosed. You said to an ideology, is an ideology, look into a room, no bigger than a closet, unstrapped them into a chair. The lights were then turned off in the chair spun the archaeologists audio.

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