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natural point. This is just really sir. I ve done then a long time to hate Chuck. I know I asked he soon on the answer, but everything they gave the movie. I have not. I have heard about it before you even to anything. Yet here it's definitely out there in the cycle. Guesswork, Acer, Mary was all over that of area. When it came out. I finally saw like every heavies conversation with EU measures, like you really need to seize like I have you not scenes I get right. Will we finally sit down? I watched it and if it's really really good amid link the guy made it for seven grand and dumb just didn't incredible job with this, I am not going to give it away. I would recommend

Everybody seeing it unsure like offend a lot of people like to single out of people off the then there are some people out there who play likewise is really cool, but one of the M one of the things the first ones. First segments is talking about how there is like. Basically, all of the religious figures can be dated back to trace back to horse the ancient egyptian God. I think we mention that before too well, the like ice, the movie like really go into detail about this, but the whole thing can it begs the question that related to Noah's Ark, which were about to talk about and that how, when, when you have cultures all over the world-

sure similar story or have a similar idle or something like that. There is some sort of commonality yeah it's so they resemble one another. So much is the evidence that it is something took place right or that evidence of cultures, borrowing from one another forming a cultural tradition that can be traced back to a single source or both I hate you I mean I definitely can be both to an extension I mean there. Is it the spirits, the disparity between the two also again but the? Flood definitely falls into that because there are stories of the flood of global worldwide, catastrophic floods. They just changed everything right all over the place near and many many religions bright and many religious texts. Yes, it s usually accompanying that flood legend is a man who

built. A boat was commanded by God or warned in some traditions and built a boat two of every animal he could find on them or to every animal andor briskly set their waited for the reins to come Steve Corral Exec. Did you see that now never did you? I saw parts of it enough to know that I was disappointed in slave girl. I got that internet tv, it sure yeah, but they did. You know that's kind of the story. Was it the man whom no one is chastised by the people in his town, yeah, this area for being foolish and others not gonna. Be a flood he's warnings of this flood you silly,

Silly man building your crazy silly arc right and if there is definitely part of the Al Gore either the moral tail is you know you should be able to withstand the ridicule of you're, not believing he, the neighbors waited guide talks to attract. Let's talk about the other, more possibly scientific aspects of the flight, because it's so ubiquitous alot of people of dedicated scientific inquiry to big time. This article says outright that a literal blood that word submerged. The earth to its mountaintops is not possible, because that would require five times the amount of water in the oceans and atmosphere put together right, because one of the aspects of this flood legend is that the whole earth was flooded right up to the mountain tops right in here,

we get into the whole Bala yarn of literal Bible, literalist or biblical fundamentalists. You know, maybe the whole world at that time meant that area mean of the Middle EAST, while Urien like where this is a time when there was no communication, other than may be a big clay tablet right arm and travel was fairly limited in regional sure in nature. So if you have a big in a flood, by all intents and purposes like the world is flooded, the world is, they know it. Yes, I just found out the Bible, literalist. They dont literally believe every word of the Bible is like they still believe in and metaphor and parable and allegory and stuff like that, I'm not gonna thought there. Those people believed exactly what you see in the Bible is exactly what have you would

But why would they call themselves literalist? Well, because there are more literal, then I guess the other can't catch by its yeah. That's a little entirely different podcast altogether! Oh yeah, there's a lot a lot of stuff with that, and one will probably never record of the night. Well, let's talk about some of the theories behind all this. You said that its physically impossible, its Bio GEO chemically impossible, for The earth to flooded up the mountain tops, so they say Miss assigned to say you said that it's probably a little more only a little more local or regional and there's actually evidence of flooding in the right place at about the right time. Enough to support was called the nose flood hypothesis right, a black sea deluge theory. I like em both. Yet there was good, it does have abandoned thing. They, like eighty people, do swiftly. How do you think about that?

So if there are all too long for my taste, so you're talking about way and be a Ryan Walter Shipment of Colombia and night ninety six in New York Times actually before they even published it in an like journals. The New York Times published it. They postulated a theory that the the Blood was resulting from rising waters in the black sea. Just as the last I say, it was tapering off which makes a lot of sense. Fifty six hundred BC yeah there. Basically there their whole idea was there the ice caps overwhelm the Mediterranean right, which flowed across the bosporus straight into the Black Sea right right now, and apparently this would have happened at about two hundred times. The force of Niagara falls. Those two guys reckon sixty

since where miles they think would have been flooded me, I and there's actually evidence the guy Robber Ballard, who discovered the Titanic, who will visit with later found evidence that there is there was indeed the black Sea was indeed at one time of freshwater like right. Now it is a salt, water, sea and inland sea, and so most likely that was the result of them. The training and full training it is he who is that two thousand seven was at his work? No, no. He with he searched for evidence of nerves are, can the late. Ninety five ninety ninety ninety thousand, but so they did fine incontrovertible natural evidence, but they didn't find evidence that there were people that would have witnessed it. So they don't know if it happened at a time when people notice it if it was cataclysmic. If rail the much people are watch. Your support for this podcast comes from pico pico. Helping homes and businesses save money with energy efficient, OECD's Ellie,

these last up to fifteen times longer than traditional bulbs Andy's up to eighty five percent, less energy, so they're good for your pocketbook and the environment Ellie, he's coming all shapes and sizes and are available. In a variety of light temperatures. Whether it's warm lighting for living rooms, dining rooms and bedrooms or bright call, waiting for catches and bathrooms, there's an elite, Every socket and for businesses, These can help you manage energy costs, improve your bottom line and reduce maintenance. About your old bulbs for energy saving Ladys and get instant savings as a pico customer stock up while disk and incentives last for info you can start saving. Today is a pico dotcom, Slash, LAPD, thousands, and they found evidence the ice caps melt. From Greenland. I kick the sea level up about foreign happy between over the course of that, what six hundred years or so yeah, but There was a five year study from UNESCO

a union of geological services in two thousand nine, that said, if there was a sea rise in a flood like that, it was probably over a longer period of time and more mild than that oh yeah. Six hundred, yet more mild and six hundred years. Everything yeah like maybe as much as a thousand years written here's, the big problem, the nose, flood hypothesis and all the supporting evidence doesn't theirs. The important piece left out, which is the rain depending on who you talk to reign for six days up to forty days in forty nine were up to one hundred and fifty eight action of whose is that all that in the Bible? Ok, at those forty days, well says forty days and three nights, but then I think we should inform me says something about the the waters for a hundred and fifty So maybe it rain that long flooding role. Oh yeah yeah two point five hundred right before subsided, and he also took her seven pairs of clean animals.

Yeah and then to eight edible unclean animals, a fair it was there really unclean thicket, Eaten decided at its also possible improbable that this the whole flood legend since remembered the world was a lot smaller. Even those really large at the time was a larger than usual flooding of the Tigris Euphrates, which fly to rear yeah and yet every anyway, every summer I think yeah said seasonal flooding. You know we didn't

to know as flood in this how floods work episode doing. This is the follow up as but the this season of footing. If there was one that was really really really bad here right. They, the these people, the people who started the first record, the idea of Noah and this great flood were in that area. At the time, the Mesopotamia area, starting with the sea, He is right in some postulate. Perhaps no. I was wealthy and could afford a really great boat in the Tigris Euphrates flooded, and that became the story that eventually morphed into the islamic and judeo christian versions right, but about two thousand years before it was recorded in the

Testament Sumerians road of a man named the ASEAN sutra right now and that he was basically the archetype for Noah Ghana Flood story, and that was followed up by the world's first book, the world's first known book, one of my personal favorite ethic of Gilgamesh by Junction yeah. That's a good one year. I carefully that twisted the apple you're, turning a lady with the forty million dollar recklessly so you're right. That is all this working history. In the Babylonian say, there was a man named boot now button approached him and he warned of a great flood built a boat besides size acre and there were six days and nights of rain and he

EL to modern day. Bathroom right. Wait with interesting is that that the size of the boat is found just about the same in all these traditions yeah, starting with yoga much about an acre in size up to the Bible, which mentions that its three hundred cubits and let's just go ahead and discuss cubits for a moment. Ok, I think it's time in the history of stuff. You should know that we finally get to cubits. The required is an ancient measurement of length that runs from that.

The middle finger to the inside of the elbow and usually about fourteen inches or something like forty five point: seven two centimeters eighteen inches or forty five cent giant yet so three hundred cubits is fifty four hundred inches or thirteen thousand seven hundred sixteen seminars, which means its four hundred fifty feet or a hundred thirty seven metres long long. Fifty wide thirty tall, three decks native go forward. All their equals would cover about an acre in area the big boat. It is

but it is strange that it does appear with about the same dimensions and all these tradition, so it makes you wonder if there was a wealthy merchant right in the area that time did he really have an acre size boat or was it dislike? That's the opposite of an allegory for a really big. It's like really specific, rather than higher Balikh medicine and be hyperbolic. That's a big boat for today with today's technology. So in the Koran in four people out there that are going, what no one in the Koran yeah! No! No! And U H, when the five profits of Islam, along with Abraham Jesus, Moses and Adam wait. Did you say Jesus? I did. Did you notice before this article? I took religion in Turkey. I had no idea you. Jesus is a venerated profit in the islamic tradition,

a lot of people than we do now said. The book of sir are, as you are age Surat tells of new or Noah speaking as a profit of God warning his neighbors. Turned from your evil ways, an aside from the name, differences and the weather, arc, eventually lands which in the Bible A rat in the Koran, its mountain Judy, there's a Judy. I take it his duty, a duty Those are really the only difference. Is that their pretty similar to each other, but does locations, are very specific yeah like on a mountain somewhere, and there are also two very different locations, both known at the time I mean it's not like they were confused or anything like that.

There is also another location that people search to Mount Suleiman in IRAN with those are the three big mountains letter being looked at. Currently, that is correct. Sir, so it took about on the search, there's there's been a lot of, there's been a number of searches. I think they're still are for the Ark people want to find evidence of the art, because if you find the Ark well, then everything really happened and the creation of sand literalist there, like hey, I told you case clause and so a lot of people of kind of looked into this, and we talked about the geological era

there's a little more there's some evidence that the the TIGERS, any Fridays River did indeed have a pretty big fly around twenty nine hundred BC might and that it wiped out entire cities in Sumer right. That's that's pretty good evidence that this fled didn t happen. I was right in a flat, but we're still lacking one of the main components. As far as difficult scholars are concerned, which is the Ark fingerprints, so yeah, let's go to era which is particularly tantalizing or was at one point I rapture there at the little important, especial and ninety ninety three incredible discovery of Noah's ark. Cbs aired special that, later on said was entertainment may not documentary? After the fact

It was hosted by what's his name DARE Mcgovern from Christmas story. His awesome Billy man was awesome, filling out and. And that ever tell you. I saw the Christmas story at a screening and away? They brought him out now the director was there and told stories he made Portuguese, so he could make a Christmas story: to take his own and they wheeled out their Mcgowan Earlene, we'll amount he was. He was in a wheelchair, cannot back into my right and events didn't clapped and he was just kind of like those kind of sad his old. He waved like the queen near and his wife was late, This is for you, like. I don't think he quite got it out. He had all her ear. He died not long after that. I think when you see him, so this is definitely post. Billy man think, is he

hopefully sharpen mobile and everything. This is like two thousand whitish or two thousand somewhere in their while he went down here quick, three sat by adding a few green culture active in what culture the night stalker here see that you set a movie does a tv show really here was like gum cannibals. Our limits kind of thing, but it was mainly monsters, use of private hang there. Anyone who would like and upon it and there was a monster behind it or something like that are goes through. Something crazy like that is like a supernatural to take this year's Asko. Simply whenever that's crazy, he had this tagline who loves you baby. Now my finger boy. We can get distracted so easy, I'm he hosted the show CBS, ran the show and a guy named George Jamal, I suppose

his story was that he in a companion, name Vladimir crawled into a hole in the ice at the top of my mouth area into a wooden structure. He said, So he says quite we got very excited when we saw this part of the room was divided into pins, like places where you would keep animals and so this is on tv and people are getting like really excited about this guy. He took somewhat with him, then Judy struck Vladimir, was taking pictures and basically backed up my fellow and tumble down the mountain and died destroying the film evidence, wink link. It is, of course, if you can't see This is headed as it later comes out. George two miles and actor he'd been too the story for years he's never been to Turkey there is no Vladimir. The whole thing was completely made up and

it gets a lot more fun, though they had. Experts paraded about throughout the show that clean certain things like biblical area people develop. The batteries and with those batteries they ran, air conditioners wait. I've heard above They did have chemical batteries like back in Egypt around here that they run air conditioning. I dont believe that they said The flood occurred in subterranean chambers bursting out through the earth's surface, with the explosion of explosive power of ten billion hydrogen bombs It is important now that none of this is like substantiated. It was all this like made up stuff, ok and then where they found fossils of animals buried in swimming positions and fish found in pursuit

of terror, then extended and eyes. Bulging, so like these fish were so scared that there were fossilized Anna Flash fossil. I flash Mosler with their eyes intact. Bulging, but the water, because it s a lot of waters intimidating through a fish. I would think they would be my sweet. They really mean to pile on more lower. I notice it was weird carried to stick with the existing law and try to figure that out. So anyway. That was the big hoax and it was found out to be a hoax, a big disappointment for some people. I'm sure some people, other people, are failing

so I've Monsieur Robert Ballard, the guy who found the titanic famed, explore. He led an expedition and ninety ninety nine and two thousand, and he was looking not so much for Noah's Ark itself, although if there's any place on earth, that would be a great place to preserve of wooden boat. For several thousand years the Black Sea the bottom of it currently perfect area, very, very cold, very low and oxygen, and they have found some pretty ancient would struck.

But they haven't found any neolithic structures right, although I said they did find the ancient shoreline, they found seven kinds of muscles like ancient extinct, muscles. Five of them are salt, water to or freshwater incontrovertible evidence that there is that that they found this old ancient freshwater like shoreline threatened at some point. That's what the black Sea wasn't, then it was inundated somehow familiar would quickly not from the Neil, with a period where it should have where this would have taken place. Yet yes found some stuff, but not necessarily that and now it suggests that this flood did happen. It did happen quickly and there were people around to witness. It ran, create a story about it, but would exports

that there is no word that would survive. That long adds that likely the case in ice and water in whatever- and also I mean if it was trapped in ice like say on the side of error by a glacier wooden of frozen in place, would have moved it down the mountain. So they say. So what about Superman? Well, let's talk about the air at anomaly. First, gazettes, pretty interesting, a cancer authority here debbie- I guess not we're about to yemen- took a step there are photos that were taken by the CIA back in the day, and I think it was think was actually home is well. They ve got some frames now that they were released. There are classified then released and ninety ninety nine under the Freedom of Information ACT. And if you look at pictures, a dark spot of big old boat,

like a big, and so they, that the era anomaly, but most like experts claim, like you, said that it wouldn t be stuck frozen up. There have moved right down from the mountain, nodded fifteen thousand feet, and that's where George Jamal said he what he found. It was an era yeah, ok, which he'd never media in an Mount Suliman. That's one in IRAN has been of particular interest to the Bible, archaeology search, inexorable exploration institute. Did you see the sun I haven't? Does it look like it looks like it? I mean it's rock, while they're saying like the looks like it's right, but it's actually petrified would. But it's not.

This problem is its missing, like obvious cuts in joints in evidence that it was a man made wooden structure at some point in time. Yet there's there's a Christian apologetically group called answers in Genesis. You can find on the internet and they even came out and were like, I think, official they didn't have an official comment, but they you now. Even christian creation is geologists say that its Iraq WAR Mason in this kind of stuff. If you push it makes us look bad gutter, but they still said, but you never know

yeah, but it is in the shape of a boat dish, that's cool of roughly the same size as they need. So it's still out there. Possibly I like ballades approaches, like not looking for the art man looking for evidence that this flood took place in their people around the witnesses. Yet, if I find the boat awesome, if not whatever anyone asking to do get out, I find it interesting attitude. I sit Ringside Diana, that's a good place to be innocent. What do you know about your neighbors? What are they want? Who do they? Love. They good neighbours to you. Are you a good neighbour to them? Neighbours are people who live close to each other, able to talk with each other and be with each other, and that's what you and I are missing- Rogers invited each of us to be his neighbour. In his neighbourhood we learn how to be kind, how to respect each other

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