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You can call me rusty yeah, but no doubt judges per Simon, eight or nine years and two weeks. Everyone should naturally clear since the first one back from my elementary school Christmas vacation weeks surfers one. Doesn't ten with future? Yes, and I told Josh I'm having reentry problems like. I always do yes, like locked him. I q and everything was strange and like being sick. The first day on the job here he's constipated how he had a little bit. He had actually now that's what happens when you say away for too long, and then you wake up sit up like a stiff is a boarding. You like I used to work today and poop, and I was you're gonna get breakin those great. Why did the island poems in Charleston eyes? That is very nice is super cool, but it was nice night went to a great hall, don't know that it's the oldest intact, preserved plantation of its kind, and

and the eastern seaboard. As far as you know, the difference between a farm in a plantation the plants- I start, two thousand him of the fat plantations- only grow. One crop is right: that's what I'm told how I thought I had dinner with the size or something no one crop farm. Many crops. Very nice is that is form latin for many crops and exert there's a good fact for Mr Charles reach up and quit. While I'm ahead will check out here, I will give you the the email address. You can say: Congrats Chuck, give it to you at the end of this podcast, which happens to be on. Although some call neutering yes, but you may also. No, it is hogging dogging stumping hand, fishing, that's that's yeah there popular when actually has one already folk collar? None actually else on the Youtube's, and they were all others due to recover and fishing. I've never done this, now now. Nor have I and it doesnt

like a sport that will ever become real popular because they're so thoroughly terrifying. Yes, absolutely never ever do that's. What we're talking about is, as checks at hand, fishing, but it goes by all sorts of colloquialisms. I we call that new dealing in this article on Hasta, forks dot, com and, basically what it is. You stick your hand into a underwater catfish nest which they tend to nest, underwater and you're in the water. We I point out, you're not doings from about know and you get the fish to buy your hand and you pull it out and there you ve just fish, you ve just noodles yeah yeah. That's it that's pretty much it of coursers, all sorts of other interesting stuff that surrounds this, which we will discuss linked starting now right. You know it reminded me of what was that You saw that the eighty Swash Gordon Movie Right, of course, I'll come on treated. I didn't even see Flash Gordon now

with the queen soundtrack and all that no definitely not well well, Timothy Dalton and once they have this, it's like a test of courage where they reach into this. These different holes in this big, like rock, Thing and there's a creature in there that will bite you if you Your hand on the wrong horse right. Go down to the elbow and then of course one of the guys got tag on the wrist and like green booze That is a risk that it will remind I've, noodle giddy, perish A newly reminds me of that same monster in return of the jedi. Yes, except in a smaller, not much and actually noodles can be deadly others all sorts of peril that sport is fraught with. Let's talk about the history of first ok native American and in its roots, evidently yeah. Apparently the first time it appears in western literature is in seventeen seventy

the trader, historian name James, a dare doubling the south- and he said yeah. The native Americans have this weird thing where they get in the water and they actually apparently used like red cloth. Like you know, enticed official Toro Toro did I can't vision and yet, but then they use their hands. The poem I imagine that the native Americans would use can have whatever means they could to get the fish out, MRS one of em yeah and since catfish or so huge. This was, you know, apprised catch yet, apparently they they, like. You said there was also the methods used to fish among the native Americans, including clubbing over the head using speed, there's bows and arrows horse and I think scare them up with torches and then just grab Unhomelike as they came to the surface right. So you know dynamiter or right and our yes right that occurred in the nineteenth and and they also actually, in the article, said that the great depression, clearly probably in the south,

That was a good time to go nibbling yeah because it's totally completely free using but your hands you allowed in whatever gas it took to get your pic attracted the noodles whole rain, and that's about its again that interesting I mean like it. I guess it. Still around, but then in the great depression everybody's like we need to start this up again right and from my father to sign although there are female rulers, yeah Raver women than I am what's that one girl named Misty Macfarlane enough, I think champion. Yes, each she's pretty get her Others like this are well known, noodle or name Rusty Ireland, whose plumber slash nibbling philosopher yeah. He was in that document relaunch. Yet I think he's a big one. He liking Me too nibbling, actually I'll bet and even said the word turd did I hate that word, it's awful, so Chuck! Yes, this is, as you might imagine,

fairly rural activity of the Rural South and then Oklahoma a huge new links day. Yes, those Missouri is was it and it's only legal and thirteen states as far as we know, right now, right in that its up from just eight years ago, only four states allow needling were in two thousand Wanta, that's nine years ago. Buddy. I have a and welcome to the future early Twentyth century man Yes, a thirteen states up from four. That's that's a big increase yeah! It's it's definitely gaining popularity thanks in part to that document or EU vaguely referred to earlier. That's right. What's the filmmaker they. Filmmakers name is Bradley. Beazley. Nice in here believes. Okey needling right yeah, and he really put it on the map Not only did he put it on the map, he established the first needling tournaments for the document right through better shots or whatever, because is it says clearly in the documentary there no noodle tournaments, because no one state

initiative, nice, it's all in the Gazelle delivered, so Brad said hey. You know what a great way to end this documentary I'll start my own kneeling tournament and that's exactly what he did and has taken off from their right. I am I to chuck. We talked about just the rallies, terrain and a whole low history. Let's get a little more into. Why would a catfish by onto your hand, Josh? What's the reason or actually, The reason is that there is that what you're doing is your reaching year your hand into a catfish nest. Where there are thousands of eggs waiting to be had exactly? What I find interesting is that you're not catching the female the theme? comes in lays the egg and then the male comes along chases or off and takes over the duty of care to protect so that is where does LEO, hitting males their guard,

when they come after your hand and apparently how you noodle, as he will your fingers around to get their attention, which may be the reason that it's called neutering. Is your fingers? Look like what Noodles Esther, although no one is known as quite sure now they're not remains a mystery. But yes, oh, you stick your hand in the catfish goes to bite you and sometimes it'll never and you can kind of get a grass bonnet. Sometimes it'll try to swallow your entire. Ah Ideally it sounds I'd say that, but I think that's what you're looking for either way once your hand makes entry into the catfish is more whereby wiggly down as far as you can see the gills yea and hook the gills from the inside out the sudden. Now you have a real firm grasp on that catfish right plus. When you have your hands in something's gills, it tends to really focus on that and freak out of sheer that right yeah. So then you pull it to the surface and there you have you ve got your calf as other as

said the thing is kind of fraught with peril. Yeah. The first thing you gonna encounters the teeth Here there are there, not super sharp, but there are lots and lots of them, and now they likened to sandpaper an article actually submit my good friend Debbie Rank. He who, as every girl, yea a signal that and she's about the least likely person on earth, there would ever read an article anew linked. She did a good job with. Well, that's the great part about our job, I'm writing about giving a facial at home and death, he's writing about nibbling right. We should switch articles occasionally it seems like here, but anyway, Debbie wrote this and she did a great job He says it's like sandpaper on your arm, which then sound too bad, If it's really, they said they start with in turning roads on your arm and then again, you know cut you up a little bit right. I read a quote from a new dollar that said once they start twit spinning it can rub your hide. It can plum. Rub your hide the bone like that right.

Good, so yeah, that's! Your first problem is that these is catfish horizon gills have your hand is, is rubbing its sandpaper teeth all over your wrist and that concern to hurt also some catfish it pretty big yeah I mean I'm forty sixty eighty pounds that's a flat had I think the blue cats get even bigger up upwards of a hundred pounds, right. So if you are in water that say Chin Deep ha, you can pull you area hold you under and you are a drowned noodles on the documentary to those on this one? one of the legendary guys noodles there were these, I'm not sure how this works, but these highways, where the lake. In the rivers now over the highway. So I guess it's: just poor planning or something, but these old broken roads, basically in the water and they will go under the asphalt to these broken asphalt to get because that's what

prime layer is and they will get trapped under their sometimes, and I now apparently it's also something of a pastime when you're searching a lake for a drowned Person people will also noodle, while they're looking for the dead person fiscal killings. Words right exactly and on everyone Well, somebody who's looking for jobs a new doing in the meantime, will end up drowning themselves and getting found they did this in rivers to so one God drowned from the current sweeping him under like a beaver, then which is why new doing is not a sport to ever be engaged. In alone. Yes, We want newly bodies, you gotta have the partners spotters, because once you bring the fish up generally spotter will help remove the fish from your arm and get it.

The boat or on land. If your by the bank or if the fish pulls you under sure, it's good to have a two hundred pound friend Paul you back above water here, I'm also they help barricade the way so that if the catfish tries to escape it just bump into their legs or Am I right? There's there's one funny part in the M documentary, whether interviewing these two guys like chests deep and there's only two deeds in the sea. They talk about. You know you ever worry about your buddy. You know when he's under there for a long time and well, you know me worry. Bottom, sometimes has been a long time. That's usually when he pops right up and ass. He said that the Catholic comes from underwater. Like you didn't even know, editing No! I didn't need another was a third person there, but he was kneeling underfoot during the interview right so because you can drown. Shindy borders can dangerous yeah, but you know you have to go with it. Fish are sometimes you dived down underwater completely, while and sometimes your heads above water another danger of two new

and, if you're, picking up this kind of a dangerous port, you're you're, very sharp person, and we should probably take the time to say that pasta works does not recommend try nibbling alone or in an experienced person with other inexperience neutral or how say at all sure go ahead at all. Ok, you can also every once in a while secure hand into a catfish nest that turns out to be a beavers dwelling. Yes, underwater snake muskrat. Squarely mean snapping turtles, are real bad to think a finger off and you encounter one of those guys you wanna, take off yeah as raucous is good they're right well, unless your jerry riders, that's kind of the legendary new law that was on Dave Letterman. He is a big snake guy too. So when he sees a snake he sees as it is an opportunity, not a bad thing. Oh yeah, I so he grabs the snake

he'll grab snakes any bit him a few times and he's like see their and bleeding for these three spots and that's what it felt like you. I just like hypodermic needle observe the knees, haven't I m pretty soon, so he was juries. Catches are maintained them or that's what he said. Well he's a snake guy, while Jerry Writers, snake circus, yeah, he's a tough guy. I've ever seen. He sounds predicts her normally, unless you Jerry Writer, you, don't want to put your hand in a snake hole now, because most exit live under water near the water are deadly poisonous sure, but most new dollars will tell you that they can tell a catfish. Asked from any other kind of earnest just by feeling the outside of the national experience. What the reason for that is that the opening will be sandy and clean gotcha. I'm pretty compact because

but once it once the male comes in his guarding the idea that the eggs he's just moving back and forth constantly keeping San analogy off of the eggs and out of the nest so that the male catfish keep pretty tidy nest. Apparently, not pay me anymore with his man. I get a little weird it out like I got trapped fishing in the North Georgia, mountains and I'm up to my waist and beautiful clear. Mountain water, where you can see what's going on. I can see what's going on and I'm still my had stolen a pivot when under the bank as it is now, I'm gonna look up and like a snakes, gonna drop on my head, These are like the muddy waters of these riverbanks, muddy riverbanks, yeah. That's roquefort dwell in actually event that new dealing has become such poplar popular sport. Noodles are kind of on barometers of the health of a waterway, depending on how you look at it relates to the army curve engineers love to keep a tidy river way. Sure I and so do

try anglers, because you can see what you're doing and that's where, during a trout generally living in clean water, the catfish, like it murky shady muddy and see But that's that's how a waterway is naturally there not naturally clean or tidy right. I'm so, apparently, The army curve engineers can evolve, fell asleep, with a switch for a couple of decades in the seven and maybe eighties and basically let the Mississippi Delta go to pot a let your catfish fishermen and the like the cap is population, came back right right. So the fact that new laws are finding catfish easily is a year in indicator of the health of the waterway right. But there is also a lot of controversy. Over noodles year we had to mention a snub, and apparently

it's a cultural thing. Yes, new leaders, you know like, like Chuck said there: they their legal and southern states, ITALY in southern states, him in mid its rural activity. Most city folk are gonna, go stick their hand in an underwater hole and hope a catfish bites right. You know why guys in the documentary addresses why he said because their own golf courses that its excellent point that Europe can point been Chuck and I are fairly certified, then of course, Neither one of us would ever ever do this now, but so it will. I think, part of part of the reason why noodles kind of look down upon by regular anglers is that it's a rural city yeah, head collision. I guess same Cherkis have plenty about. You know the city types that grab there there trout boots and go The weekends rank go trap fishing like anything, but there's all

A m in environmental concern, which may or may not be true right, as there would be no clearly you're doing as your pulling out the catfish. That's guarding me! No, stash of eggs and many times you dont return fish back to the water, you keep it and eat it right for food, because catfish maiden bright, and even when they do return these fish to the water which they sometimes do, they mean to cite catching release. Fishing is the proper way to do it and they need to get back her comments on the shore right, so they think they might not survive from just massive injury right in the lake saying you're removing this catfish from its role of protecting these eggs, which means that once a calf, he's gone all manner of parameters. Go, I'm gonna go eat, meat, thousands of catfish rags and

that, not logically have an impact, a huge impact on the population of the cat fit right. Here's how, because most people don't stick their hands in catfish nest in the hopes that it will be them and they can pull it out needed. Yet it has gained in such a lady, but still a fringe Zaire which Hocking, like maybe a thousand people across the country that do yeah. Maybe three thousand that's why there's been studies that can't prove anything because it wants to put in money into a nibbling study right. Well, I think we should study it to see if agenda have an impact in the meantime, most dumb fishing game, the inner departments in the various states where it is legal or hedging their beds in keeping the of catches, a new law can make for Meda August, which spawning season right. It's three in Missouri. I think that's the

average and that's lower than if you're, in just a hook in in line angler. You didn't get ten in that year, eggs our day three per day in ten per day, depending on, if you're, an angler newly, of course find this unfair but again there haven't been any study, sir. I I think threes and arbitrary number. Probably I wonder if anyone's over cotton nibbler the dead Mueller, probably hook. The newly Underwater apparently there's this boy in the nineteenth century who went new ruling and he got held under by the year by the calf ass she caught, but I guess his grip was so tight that, like a day or so later, they found the boy and the catfish dead side by side on the sandbar really yeah Hannah Master. Well, that's something! That's no way to go. If you. Hitler. That is the way you die well and that's what Jerry Writer said. He said I noodle till I die unless Newland kills me in here

no said unless he probably meant, especially if you link kills me to talk about the tournament yeah, we mention it briefly. It is the biggest north american hand, fishing tournament. I thought I was the only one but it's the one. It said the Oki needling tournament, that's what it's called in, straightforward. It's in July, that Bob's pig shop in Paul's valley, Oklahoma and others prizes like two grand to think. If you want there's different categories like fish of the day and then total catch of total powdering of your three yet stream. Others, so natural and scuba neutering inscribing you doing is exactly result. I can imagine that frowned upon I didn't get any averting so so is gassing, which newly with the hook right, because basically you're worth is other means pretty much. Because you're not sticking your hand in there. You stick in a hook in their energy bills and Poland about number one. You immediately doing more damage to measure as in but

in your hand, its hand, fishing not hook, visionary laid Leven frowned upon gloves did too. This is how brought these guys are well yeah. They frowned upon gloves because it really, you can't touch. You can't tell from touching right whether to snapping turtle or must get her a canvas, but also they can get snagged on things underwater and keep you under so yeah these two fellows and women. Yes, John there's a dvd series, even call the girls gone grabbing yeah, whom are grappling grip, gravity, typos, scrabbling? No, no! I don't think it's a typo, maybe it's called gravelling them grab land grab, gravity typos scrabbling. No, no! I don't think it's a typo, maybe it's called grappling them an end. The there's been some records. Apparently every year somebody such a new record at the opening contest in which caused if people are like all the same hall there all over the state. As long as the fish

seven thirty p M, when their weighed on Saturday there's gentlemen's agreement to not go into the same needling hole that you do some other people already in. Yes, like a fishing spots in the authors, that's pretty much of the fish has to be live on its wade right arm, but other than that. That's that's pretty much it in the most recent record was set this pass July, two thousand nine. Where we talk about and ten now that's what future sixty point six pounds by getting John Bridges and he had to say, the three fish that you're allowed to catch in that twenty four hour be one thou into I dont know. If you we ve won the bouncy, how he didn't cause he added another fish. They cut was almost the same weight while as part of a string or so I imagine he he won the stringer that you just do me a favor close your eyes and picture a sixty six pounds catfish up to your elbow. Sixty eight point, six

the eight point. Six. Can you imagine that you think I've learned by now the hard way not to close my eyes when you get points here? That's a big old, catfish catfish the alley now sure I'm not that city! well. This is a very nice. A photograph, of course bear blocks right. Thank you took an catfish. Always you know that sixty eight point, six, its huge Stephanie, LAS Vegas that they get. You know every like Rural area has a legend of a catfish. That's like two hundred fifty pound. He has ever see that king. The hill worry, I think, he's trying to catch General Sherman. Now as the Simpsons was it yeah. I think it was a colleague, General Sherman or something like that was his huge cat vision, a hymn, homer margarine, liquor, save our marriage, retreat, homer snakes out catch the fish. I think I did see that one

already ensues. Kids tat season, vibes, yeah, but don't you get you do your deafening here? The rumours like hogs elect the same thing. Is it oh you'll this year. That is our like several hundred pounds, the Thumbtack Arkansas. I think it's real there aren't about Hog Zella, but that the huge catfish deadlier chuck lights- and this mentioning that new doing is not necessarily exclusive to North America. That's not just felt since then, in thirty four there's a tournament in Nigeria or a festival. I guess you can in all this on the should I, the arrangements for universal now or Google or Google that I take it and it's exactly right are Google. That's it that's a difficult one, but is that's why we George, while this is a one hour, long contests, which is yeah Chemical, but I think you can catch fish anyway, you can write well,

in it. What it is hand fishing, but you can now use nets. I think you can't use like hooks and poles ok, so you can use nets and in two thousand eight the winning fish you're right. Josh was one hundred and forty pounds right and they take her hand fishing very seriously Nigeria because they found out that the winning fishermen in two thousand eight bell oh yeah cube. They found out that he brought a dead fish from another river and said all that I caught and they arrested him. He was arrested for fraud in a contest. I want to know how you sneak a one hundred and forty pounds fish into a river. That's probably how he got caught. I mean you can't you can't do it very overtly so somebody arm and re like red and yeah coop cheated and teaching and through the book it does. We're. Hang us by legislation. Understand, but let sounded like this all about so yeah, that's needling right now, I'm that so the too bad for fur.

When, after eight years, the yellow Monday morning so do you want to learn more about noodling. You can read Debbie raucous riveting tail in article four by typing nibbling into the handy search bar has the force that come, which of course leads us to listener mail, the Sir male Josh before we re listener. Male we're gonna, send a special shot out to our friend chance, little sister had a really rough go of it over the holidays, we're not gonna get all into it, but, did say it would really making little sister stay. If we said hello, and so you're saying, hi and hang in there guys happy new year to year. So having said that, I'm gonna call this. We are frauds. You ve been found out. No,

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