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asked, or at least right, possibly before you were a wee dolphin. I now I was Ipod. Catherine, they mean dynasty little known fact. There really was the main dynasty. It was when the first podcast was created by me. You know who created the first paragraph. Nineteen that guy from MTV yeah Adam Curry, in that crazy z I am here in our field should jump on them. Beat him up get me a pillar K street Now we should salute him hats off, oh, yet that, due by the way Chuck did you notice in Itunes that you and I are in a special room where we are basically referred to as pioneers podcast, turns five yeah awkward, Yes, so Adam Curry started

five years, twenty years after Ghostbusters, ah very nice, no twenty one years network. Let's get to! Yes, have you heard of a kid name, Mrs Lynne injure. No, so, let's see he's eleven now I guess, and He lives in the United States. I dont know what state sure we could find out one of the fifty yes and he around. The age of two sorted having them, these crazy nightmares and he always had a an affinity, for airplanes, but around the age of two things turned a little bit dark and he started going to waking up screaming things like playing on fire playing on fire or something like that sitting. Next to you, when you flew to me New York, that that is just just a punk, this kid was, it was traumatize. You could say he knew

out about playing his parents started noticing that he would do kind of pre flight checks when he was playing with his airplanes. He he could point to parts of plant. Has his mom thought a fuel tank collar drop tank was a a bomb attack the Bell over Toy plain his? I know it's a jot tank, and he was a little kid at the time and after a while his his the things is here. He was talking about thirty get. A lot more specific chuck, he talked about going down in a corsair that he used to fly less you of this. He talked about how Corsair the Corsair he flew. His tyres would always go flat It is kind of a little known fact unless your war to pilot or worked on a flight actor then. He finally said that he went down near Redeemer Plain, and that

planet gone down from taking a directive in the engine and by this time the kids like five right right. And so, said that he had been flying off within a Toma right. So far, so to get a little bit obsessed with this inserted researching than at home. I found that there is an item on Ebay and aircraft carrier That was off the coast of Europe, during the rate, I knew a GMO In March of nineteen forty five, and there was indeed a guy, His name was James M, Houston Junior and he was the only one to die in this raid on Gmos from hidden the ancient directly engine went down in his Corsair set a movie it now. It should be so the kids getting allers his his memories are fade

Those this is two thousand five. The article in his memory already fading out fairly. They have their pinnacle about three to defy something like that: crazy in a lot of researchers are saying and of the parents of deluded them Sounds they deluded ham? They really kind of encourage this. You're, seeing things that aren't there, but obviously, as parents think that this kid is the reincarnation this other guy named James, the one who went down and nineteen forty five and his corsair, I don't plausible to me- is theirs. Are people out there. That would say that doesn't sound plausible Firstly, people on the western world by you go a little further east little pass the Greenwich date line and you will find a billion and a half two billion people who believe in reincarnation. I walk away

a billion and have thus just sir Hindus and Buddhists right, There's that everybody? No no, it's disparate, there's like a billion people in China alone right yeah, but I don't know that all of them are Buddhists yeah, but many more people bleed incarnation than the Hindus and Buddhists, so you, whatever you cross the international day, I'd go further east. You gonna, find billions of people billions of people starting in Central Asia and moving eastward and US stodgy Westerners, are always the ones coming in, and how about that? Maxie remedy- or I don't know about that. Coming back as some One of the reasons why is because we your time as though in a linear motion. There's no going back, there's no there's no coming back to do it again and again in others, no rebirth most of the religions over here are monotheistic sure you gotta, Heaven after you die Your life on earth is to sort of gain entry.

You haven't been in hell in on the on the other side of the world in in among cultures that believe in reincarnation. Time is generally viewed a cyclical right of which makes for you know, coming back again and again as a lot more plausible yeah, I did funny thing about Christianity, though there are some people who think that reincarnation may have been an early tenant, She entity, but it was misinterpreted and or just flat out kind of lost over the years. Yeah I'd whether the catheters lounges, I can be proven, obviously, and Judy is in the end, Cabal and Pacific juice. Believe reincarnation, doubtless talk about that. First, let's talk about asian views of reincarnation there's a lot of really interesting, so ladys across cultures. As far as reincarnation goes

in the earliest, while the oldest active religion right now is Hindu, his right of surviving religion right. I think you can make a call zero asterism is older, but I dont know that you could say that that's actually survive near that, at the very least, not thriving, like Hindu ISM, thereby so shock. How long as reincarnation been around it hasn't been around forever, like people would think it's actually its fairly new rain. The fifth and seventh century b c BC. So we get yell that every time we use I die sometimes and they were in the upon a shot right, which were these Hindu Ancient Hindu text, where reincarnation first really spelled out by right and they don't think that it was around prior to this because

There's a lot of evidence that enlightened burials that people believe that this in visual person, one onto another life, so they were very like like their hunting materials or their area in societies, would burn the wife alive when they cremated the husband. So they were together in the next life right. So then reincarnation, first pops up around in other fits the seventh century or the seventh of century BC. Right, yes, so what are we talking about? comes to Hindu is unlike what is it what's the basis of of reincarnation? Well, I mean in its original latin translation. It means entering the flesh again, so that pretty much speaks for itself. And Hinduism, it's all about the acceptance of some sorrow which that literally means wandering on and for what I gathered. It

more of an answer to what are we doing like the eternal question is: what are we doing no way? Not? Where are we lot of people? Think it's like you know where you are at your station. It's really. What are you doing right, and so, basically, it's in the same in Budapest and we'll get into that. But it isn't there. It's not, a continual cycle for olive eternity. There is a goal that you eventually want to break the cycle and reach an in point: and an Hinduism its all the yeah attire ticket and that's bait that salvation right. Yes, it means release Literally, really so to be released from your cycle is I took it so with

Hindu ISM. You achieve mocha through karma right in cars that, over its this very its let's is misuses socialism these days, I think, you're, scaring the western if karma, is basically this impersonal law, where, if you carry out actions. Yeah you become good. If you carry out evil actions, you become evil right, so Accord how you live. Your life is the kind of karma you, a crew in this karma accumulates from life to life. And ultimately win. I guess the good enough of the good Karma is a crude. If you will share- and I don't think he's is black and white is good or bad karma right necessarily, but but once you crew this, this type of of Verbal karma, you're you're, ultimately loosen from your human form. You not gonna, be reborn again, you're gonna go Jack,

the Brahman right. Yes, that is the the absolute God of the Hindus right zig cheese. You become one wishes, I guess a part of it yet, but karma not control. By that God is not controlled by any got no right. It's dislike universal law like thermodynamics, or something like that. Yes, not my God, says with me now. You ve earned this really have an early that he's dislike. He's like a dealer, Vegas like and got nothing with this body. This is all about the second time we don't call me clearing your hands or tapping out Chuck, I find that really really interesting and kind of uplifting that there is this God almighty, powerful God in the hindu religion. Others, of course, like tons of other gods right, but that this, this all powerful God can't doing about this cosmic law of karma, it's up to the individual actions. I just

the endlessly appealing curate it's up to you how you live your life, whether now You're going to achieve most show not now. That's. I just think that super cool absolutely in up, because your action should reflect. You know how you end up and I think it creates station in life was well right. Well, yes, if you do enough, I guess a few accruing Dude karma, you may end up in a higher cast yet another incarnations here on earth right right sure, but then there's no Heaven or hell or anything after after you do hit mocha right it righteous being a part of the Brahman right, which is the buddhist equivalent of or the hindu equivalent of the Buddhist Nirvana.

Right, so Mosher is one of four primary Hindu goals right, yet a final gets the final, the first one in its almost kind of like this sum. This transcendent saw in it starts with this very base goal of desire or you want to have sex or you want wealth or you want fame or something like that. Then you move to Wealth Arthur which actually is China was the first one right dresser. Am I right in your saying seo enemy Kay em and then are

a r t. Hiv is wealth and it's not like bad thing. It's not like our concept of wealth. It's, u want to accumulate wealth, so you can take care of your family right or do good for other people. That kind of thing church, so that in the western concept of wealth, are not necessarily one thing and you have Dharuma righteousness right and then, after that, you achieve mocha and I think there's an interplay cannot see, don't think it's a surly graduated there's that LINEAR thought Prague,

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yeah. You can really call it and after life right have you call it an in between life and so check this. This thing that exists in between life and also in life and what die it is well Buddhists, consider a germ of consciousness, and it's made air quotes right right, so that starts in the womb. And you live. You die. You generate karma based on how you live, but the point of life to Buddhists is suffering. Yes, my heart of the four noble truth right, which is suffering exist suffering, arises from attachment to desires. Right suffering ceases when attachment to desire season and freedom from

a thing is possible by practising the eightfold path right in the eightfold path was Zalm, something that was created by the Buddha said Arthur right, who is born around five. Sixty three BC, yes and he was born into a life of opulence and wealth and privilege and very easy bunny noticed fairly early on. I get the impression you something of a prodigy that he wasn't shaving much spiritual progression yeah through this life of well, So he went off and he didn't what chuck well, when he was twenty nine years old, he laughed and said: I'm gonna practice Yogi Ec Training and he basically abandoned all that and sat under a tree. They lived the life of a hermit yeah. So you know me check. You know how I feel about food

going off in living in the cave by themselves and not contributing anything humanity right right, and this is what said Arthur tried. And did he gained enlightenment from this? Now he was, I guess you could say he was in your camp. He didn't among its aid and get much out of it. I wasn't there, but he ultimately did not gain enlightenment. That way- and he thought you know, I thought- maybe a mix of both is a good thing. In my We should call that the middle way- and maybe that's the way to be right- and it's called the eightfold pathway. So he achieves enlightenment knee immediately starts telling other people about it and he said that there is as eightfold path. That is basically it's in the middle between excess, insult deprivation right right. So what are the eight, the eight part to the eighth. Path. Well, this broken down into three qualities, wisdom or Pena. Right view and right thought You get morality which is right speech

action and right livelihood sure you have meditation, which is right, effort right, mindfulness and right contemplation, very nice. So basically, this: together, you are living there, right life. That's going to deliver you You Nirvana right yeah, which is the middle way right since breezy about its extremely difficult ethics are too in a while there it's it's difficult, because there's something all hindrances and actually list these out, which in enounced robbing a surprise at one of them is lost, MS aversion to ill? Will you have Slav and torpor which you know who wants to be involved with Tor restlessness and worry and sceptical doubt and then seven factors of enlightenment which are mindfulness investigation, energy, rapture, twink, tranquillity,

concentration and equanimity? So not so easy? sir, I mean think about using it to avoid those and then do. Those, though, does sound easy, but right by how life, as I'm sure, if you like you, zig to the left, using right in to give us some sort of temptation, nor you know you if you close yourself down to the possibility of no being exposed to wealth or whatever you're missing out on being able to help other people. You know this is probably a lot of fun pitfalls to that that way of living, which is why issue the whole thing? we'll sit hard to believe that he wandered. Around India for like forty five years teaching this, and

till he died at the age of eighty, and you know his last words were tell him. I said something cool how he did say something call he said impermanent or are created things strive on with awareness party on basically with his party on Darth. Well, my last words. They I have. You ever wondered what years away. I have a feeling minor gonna be wholly my last two words will be. Probably you got me: copper. You gonna revert back to your bad boy, ways destroying less dynasty. Out of a suicide by cup. It reminds me of the end of arms when they

raises talent is died. Heroically that is fairly for thinking should have their age shock it. Some of this stuff that we ve been talking about, may sound, can offer. If you live the right way, you can stop coming back to this existence that we call earth right life on life on this planet. Here is a kind of bears a striking resemblance to the judeo christian ethic of you know. If you live this right life of your good other people, you don't hurt other people or other things. You know rule person, a new kind of is not u dont pursue worldly objects, you're going to have a better after life right yeah, but it's on Christianity. Obviously it's a permanent afterlife right, because reincarnation here

The thing like there's a there's, a very there's, a similarity between the judeo christian Outlook and Muslim as well, because they leave in the afterlife as well, that The soul is immortal that there's something in us that lives on after the physical body dies. Rent where it differs in disagrees is specifically with real carnation, where you come back right, a new and habit some body on this earth again right. That's the that's the different, that's reincarnation! there hasn't been doing immortality, Israel was everything they do. The immortality of the soul, but as far as comparative religion goes right, the differences- you don't keep going straight, you come back yet he gives you screwed up. I took a comparative religion class in college and here's a little secret Josh, don't tell him

de there all kind of the sea. I know- and you want to know why I had my theory us here: are we gonna? Go there? Here's my ears, my theory, man of olive into man, whatever and man started to assume a man could think man started questioning why they were there on earth. Looking for a purpose and that's where religion sprung up and that's why they're all very similar when you break down the tenets of world religions, is people fractured and put off in a different areas and re evolved differently, but at the root of it I think it began with man, walking, upright and looking at you know the sun and saying son. There yeah. I think I subscribe to something very Why river run right? I think I think it was born, though Chuck out of the first time somebody witnessed some one else.

I realise that that's going to happen to me one day. What happened to talk talk right there, there's a if you, if you look at the religious scholars work most of them will tell you that reincarnation was born out of watching the seasons change, especially for because, because these were agricultural societies that started giving rise to religion like this right on the whole cyclical thing, it makes sense to earth, rotates the seasons rotate in a cycle right so, except the I guess, the commonality, like you, said people, Sir, to split up right it I don't know, there's a surly that it happen and then am I see you're, saying like with religion in general right but with something like say reincarnation of these really lead a good luck. In the no yes. After this, I think it was from cultures.

An influence on another by living nearby. Another remember we did that podcast on whether the Greeks get their ideas from the Africans yeah, Will? This apparently, is another example of that right, african, mystery system. The kinetic mystery system talked about in Egypt is one of the big guys who formed a mystery system. The big well one of the big co founders. His name was the tigress over him, the pythagorean theorem, so we're gonna get into the mystery religions little that yeah he spent several decades in Africa

came back in. The next thing you know is founding mystery calls Orpheus the orphan, the orphan mystery Colts founder, Willie, supposedly a mythical figure, but they also think he may be an actual historical figure, the music legend. Ah, if he was real, there's a part of his legend is that he went and spent twenty years in Memphis studying from the Egyptian. So you can get the idea that a lot of the ideas of rebirth reincarnation went from the Hindus to the Egyptians to the Greeks and then where're. We talked about the Jefferson Bible being RIM or the Bible being written by the platonic acts. Yes, that Plato was derived,

These mystery call to bleed reincarnation, and actually some Catholic called early catholic Colts believed a reincarnation as well as the catheters, yellow. Orfis sounds a lot like Heaven and hell the me, because he believed I believe that leading a correct life lead you to Elysium within which is like a paradise, and if your evil you'll get oh hell right, but can die in the afterlife as well. Yeah does anger around. That's that's the main difference. You have to lead three good orphan Clive, yet to some, so you get out of there What what is leading a good or affect life chuck with this horrible horrible or for life,

well. No, no wine, no sex, no meat vegetarianism is good, is good, so yeah there's a few. The tenants which is strange because this this is this orphan coal- was actually an offshoot of the dying icing called and they believe quite the opposite. They would ripper go to death, yes, reds alive goat to to with teeth as part of their sacrifice, their mutual sacrificed to get drunk as they could on wine, that its Sexton orgies and they never eat everything right now and he apparently Orpheus went to Memphis and came back and said, hey, I know what you guys are trying to do it's a good idea. What you're doing the opposite of what you should be doing. Let's start leading his puritanical life and that led to this this kind of idea that denying yourself was it a good way toward being a pure person.

Right, I think you are starting to lead us down the road a minute ago about of China's em there's a cup all other indian religions. China's men always thought it was seek as em, but also saw something said: that's a common, Miss pronunciation and then it's like sick say it gives them nice than another tried and really go the extra mile chuck. Well, who knows you know, the internet, might not be true, but a giant zoom. They think that your soul accumulates karma as a bad thing. It's an actual substance, physical substance and that karma is never good. Com is always bad. Your goal was to rid yourself of karma right on here on earth. Here and if you have these karmic particles in your souls always going to bind to a body right yes, so if you get rid of the comic particles Europe also mentioned. The caters right these this was there. They were from South Francis

Spain, I believe, and there the reason the spanish inquisition was founded because they are considered this. The heretical sect of thoughtless ISM Bay, clean. They were vegetarians, they believed reincarnation. They were highly. They follow this highly neoplatonic tradition right and they accuse the roman Catholic Church of being the Anti Christ branch of Catholicism right, the roman catholic brow. Proof stronger started. Setting up stakes, burning, caters ottoman, basically random out of existence, but they believed in you know that you should meet me a rag back is as a human or an animal and that their there it is kind of a kinder gentler version of Catholicism. Little less blood thirsty

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he studied it. He never said that he believed it was true. He just wanted to believe it was or wanted to prove that it was at least a possibility, so he spent his life pretty much until he died in two thousand seven trying to do so founded the division of personality studies at you, ve a right which became, I guess it was originally called the division of perceptual studies I will now it later became the perceptual studies. I get confused. Those originally personality studies- and he was a Virginia cavalier there right go caps and he had a lab basically, where he studied near death experiences. He studied children mainly through to five young. Kids who mean out it. Can I like your kid that you talked about the beginning through to five who had

stories that could not be explained in ways that made sense other, then perhaps you were reincarnated yeah, there's, there's been tons and tons tons of cases summer easily explained away, others are but Stevenson, apparently in forget it about twenty five hundred of them gear for years, yet he was pretty much. Down by mainstream his peers, you, in here. He was a true forty in actually he was he wanted. Do apply the scientific method to the supernatural right. He just basically believe things that were considered supernatural were just things that couldn't be explained by science right now, but, like you said, he was basically push the French just because of his studies. Right, but there's a lot of people are the think he was successful and in proving that it is possible for reinsurance

asian like the kid who thought is a world war. Two pilot is Stevenson would never say like whether he believes in reincarnation. Anything like that, but a bow in. I think nineteen sixty seven he went out and bought a lock a combination lock and set. The combination himself and then used in mnemonic device to remember the combination any stored, the lock away. Any always said that the reason why did this he wanted to see if he could transmit the information the mnemonic devised, somebody who could then go unlock this lock after he died right and so far nobody's, unlike the lock in three years, brown under the disproves anything now, of course not if it proves that no one's, unlike the lock it

I still feel that the automatic, let get you a job in the foreign service, the anything else, reincarnation yeah. The chinese government did you know band reincarnation without permission from the chinese government. I think I have heard that actually win was like a few years back yeah they China it likes to ban things, as we all know, and they banned reincarnation without consent from the chinese government and basically, basically its away too. Keep the Dalai Lama from reincarnation and saying this is the next Dalai Lama Basically, he won't have permission to do so so China we'll be able to choose the next Dalai Lama and the current dolly as obviously he said many times. I am not going to come back as long as China is in power over I bet say, boycotting reincarnation. I don't have a summit

boycotting it? But he's he's gonna end up here? Well, He is boycotting. He says he refuses to be reborn until that happens is something you already, but it's happening is a mean when he dies as Gimme LAW hanky, because potentially there might be too Dalai Lama's the one China appoints and the one. You know that the real one I would call it that will be awkward if they ever media or if they met. Surely Maclean member that stuff sure she claimed that you reincarnated and she had sex with the Charlemagne. I didn't hear Beauchamp Charlemagne per year while she said she She actually did have an affair with the swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme and he she said he Charlemagne, reincarnated, trees. So supposedly she says she got it on with Charlemagne.

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