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maybe in slavery, or you can use knowledge did some cooking I like fish stock. Oh yeah, No, I did, I dont be dumb I'll catch up the origin of catch up in it. Actually, oh you saw that to you all this. Of course I do. I had no idea, and we biggest man you're one of the one hundred y know, I'm one of those people. It's like this go so dumb, we're gonna get out of here, get through the woozy. I too like that, but I just keep watching them. I can't help it You saw the one about catch up. Then you know about catch here. Yes, the vietnamese fish stocks that actually serves as the basis for catch up. Yes, the american continent, which is not the number one cell economy, America Saucer, know what is man is: oh, yes, did you know that nowhere, many clearly didn't wake kind. Due to your brain right, well, dukes, better and just imagine

find myself a defender of man is because my whole life people have just thought it was growth, not everyone. You do well, unlike France, Belgium, Buddy like on a hamburger and hot dog people, because I don't catch up and people think I'm weird, oh no! You need some catch up to now. They might Profound recently, as a grown up adult a real live one that, like you, can replace catch up with tomatoes, heavy taste view even better, depending on the ketchup you mean on a burger. Yes, instead of both right, He does mean no catch up, yeah like those I'm not I'm not opposed to it. Now it is it I've found, and it was a big surprise to me. A really big surprise. Yes, said if you just put tomatoes a good tomato, I'm in no ketchup, you're, actually creating the taste that you're looking for with ketchup they just mrs it slightly right cause it's gotten more than tomatoes

It's really again very surprising to me. Even I realise, of course, that tomatoes made from cattle is made from tomatoes. Partially psycho haven't made that connection right. I just realized how good just tomatoes were on a burger thou ketchup beyond Allegro tomatoes either. So I wouldn't do that and you can't different train a tomato. Well now, I am not opposed to catch up still use catch up here, especially for different. Says: I'm cool with that you down and catch appears what I'm trying to say. I just think that tomatoes are great on a burger, but also like Mayo too. I think is ultimately the point that started me. Often, Yeah I like tomato sauce like red sourcing, but I don't like whole tomatoes or just hold tomatoes. Finally, an illness was that you don't like an apple or anything You ve been doing that. I can understand why you dont, like automated some people. Do some people to slice, I'm gonna play right. You're not just hold,

your him eating it like an asshole, but look at a monster. Does this sort of thing in a mindset Keyser Wilhelm? The second yeah he's these alone, all right, so all that to say: go: Mommy Mommy, oh Mamma, this one's about who mommy the FIFA the fifth flavour, the fifth beetle out of what they now say is sick, that that carbon dioxide is also went to a really now we supposedly they found receptors that are tailored specifically dissenting carbon dioxide on a time and that, ultimately, that makes it qualifies. Taste me so

I think the way more. I don't know why science has been so stingier so reluctant to accept the idea that we have more than four flavour receptors more for taste receptors, but a beau mommy was isolated in the in the beginning of the twenty seven. And it wasn't for almost eighty years before the West finally accepted it. For the reasons, because it was, the research was written in japanese car. It's ok, Maybe that has something to do with her and part of the issue was that

Mommy's very mild and taste, and when you have high concentrations of it to increase set flavour, you ve got salty and sour mixed, and so I think it is confounded the west. What we get sour we get salty. We get sweet for sure why we even get better, but we don't get this other thing nope and we're not going over five. So you better make the Sioux mommy some good. That's what the western dumb western scientists in food scientist so check. I think we let the cat out of the bag a little bit. The Japanese are the ones who first discovered mommy. Right comes from the word go. My. Roughly translated as delicious chefs. If you talk to a chef mommy's, they caught thing right now really does say. Maybe it's like a mushroom thing: it's like an earthly,

It is very subtle, like I said, musty yeah musty, which does a sound appealing. No, It also makes sweet different, that's mommy's, big great quality Think. That's probably one of the reasons why it was hard for the west to accept it is booming. Big thing is synergies, and yet it is supporting catch member, almost yeah it it takes. Yes, it is it's like but finally, but that was not a leading guy, but you put him in and ensemble he's gonna bring nobody else up with what is known for, I would give a mill. An american dollars to be inside your brain during that five seconds- a few spinning around searching for supporting gas member in ending up it, Buddy Buddy Will you come back in twenty years and give better go you dollar than I will let you, and that would be amazing. So with like

multi sour. We get again. We get those things they stand on their own mommy has a very mild and not necessarily like pleasurable flavour, on its own. Here you want something like this is just your mommy flavoured right, but it is almost like it's designed to interact with other flavors. It is eventually salty in especially sweet agreed and who mommy can even interact with itself well and all of a sudden, it takes what was just like a whole harm day, in terms of data to the greatest day of your life, with one bite of talking much With some hot you mommy on your mommy action. So it is nothing new. Obviously, it's not like you can just identifying new taste, it's been around

The Romans and the Greeks before them enjoyed something called Durham, and that is a sauce that boy. You wanna talk about how you find something weird food wise near they were getting fish and they serve us. Take this fish guts, I not solve it and leave it out in the sun for three months and see what happens. You you either of you, and someone eventually ate it. They strain the liquid from the top of it and they said boy the sources. This is Garonne sauce goods that is delicious, Gara means delicious in ancient Roman. I think so, and it is that was mommy personify Because how mommy was discovered, eighteen o seven there was a brilliant chemist, name: Kicker, nay I kinda separate cocoon. I there

a scattered about your little part, two gotcha figure. You did it thanks He was a chemist and he worked at the Imperial University. I'm sorry, he was yes, professor at the Imperial University Tokyo, and he was perplexed that he tasted something one day and said this is not any of them. Four flavors know now. I know this is different. Is all about the dashi? does. She is the basis of Mr Soups lots of other stuff, but basically it's a fish stock made firm. I think tuna flakes area combo, which is a dried kelp. Yes, in there, cancer recipes for adoption base and it's in a lot of things from sources like sober noodle sources like you sent me so yet really really big ingredient in japanese quizzing right

SK. I would like this little boy love this dossier and I want to know exactly. Why is making it so wonderful? So since he was a chemist, he took, I think something like twelve kilograms of dashi and boiled down. Ten of em isolated some stuff? The first thing that came out were some obvious ones that he clearly discarded is not responsible for mommy because they were salts. Is I know it's not that it's that's all. We understand. Salt, it's not saw, I know for a fact that answer what then he asserts sorting through right. Why didn't he separate the dashi into its parts and then break those down yeah? Ok, I attempt to head step gotcha. Make a terrible chemist he's off her he's on kelp. At this point, one of the ingredients, ok, and so with the help is where he found was to solve in your right. He was like the one. I know these flavors and they're, not what I've been experiencing on my dont know old news sullenness, so he looked a little. There any found

Oh wait a minute. What is this its glue to make acid anything? Maybe but glutamate acid has a sour taste and that's weird like it can't be glutamate. Acid doesnt quite makes it so he added more stuff came over. The chemical reaction in what popped out on the other end is well you and I call manner sodium gloomy industry and he figured out that it's not gonna make acid is not the salts, but is it glutamate, but then he figured out even further as a glutamate. This doesn't make any sense like gloomy glutamate doesn't work, then he realize it's not the protein giving it the taste, it's the amino acids that actually make up proteins. They give you mommy its taste,

so glutamate. I'm sorry isn't amino acid right right here and that one of the things that gives you mommy space is the first thing that was discovered to give your mommy its taste, and that was the kelp, so you know, does she has different components? So he had a student you said you know, I let me get that the dried tuna flakes renewed folks, Benita, delicious different kinds, but beneath us therefore went on and he says. Let me I didn't find these components and what he found was something called you wanna. Try down and assign eight the right yeah. Thank goodness right man, it's a nuclear gas is lacking.

Yes, Sir he's like boom of got number two and then in nineteen sixty another scientist, Name Akira Connie Knocker nice. He worked for your master. The famous soy sauce here now to show off he was, and he went under Workin form a suitable, soothes interesting or is a chemist yeah, but it's like you are precise off and then you go for pharmaceutical I'm good at both things but you're right. It's all this chemistry, He said, you know what I can identify. A third thing called one eye late at night.

Nuclear tied in those she talking, mushrooms, you're talking about yeah an aside it just vote either flakes combo and sacking mushrooms are the only things that pretty soon mommy tastier he's just the three things that those guys went to town in isolated, different stuff out of right. Yeah always want to see Benita Apple bomb when you say Benita, tribe conquest. After all these years they can make him referee they can make an appearance is an absurd. Lately. I haven't you mention a man who looks yeah this one remember when we talked about the scenario whatsoever to what the scenario you know what my friend, just in whom you also now his mother, actually left her wallet and else agenda no way, and he even call me he's right. Dude guess what happened? My mother left the wallet and else agenda. It's crazy. I was pretty remarkable which politics

and then we'll talk a little bit more about the science of taste ran after this Here's the thing saving money with Geico was almost better than playing pick up basketball because there's always there who joined your game, he never passes the rock he constantly Rex theories and who completely you and then put his hands up and say no foul, no foul with Geico. It's easy switch and save on car insurance known. The vacant ankle sprain because you're absolutely exhausted so which in save with back it's almost better than sports,

so we have done in episode on taste that was great. It was great shield taste and how it works from July, two thousand in highly recommended, but we're going a little bit more here for you. I think if fundamental rights, mommy we'd be big jerks, if we just assumed You know everything there is to know about tat. We gotta talk about, what's called the guest a tory system, ok, so weren't Irma taste specifically that suffer from flavour, which will get to the taste begins on the tongue. Try and on the time you're gonna find what we like to call taste buds repay. The prepay have taste, Botswana right. Yes, there are three main types of Poppea. I have the fun funky form. Yes, mushroom shaped sure Folliot. Those are the riches and grooves at the back.

The town and the circumvallation another circular at the front front into the town right and then said appear have a couple of taste buds. Some have hundreds of taste buds. And then, when you look into the taste buds themselves, they have reset yourselves and what s interesting is when you think, The taste by GB like a well there's a salty taste but three taste, but who mommy, who mommy sweet sour better that right carbon dioxide? So that's not the case as a matter of fact. It tastes but has different cept yourselves in these different, such or cells, can be tuned to accept or since different types of tea yet wasn't at the shape. If I remember correctly that, while I was with the smell tasted closely related right- and we should say if the spoiler alert for the taste episode when our harvesting

for how we sense tat there or smell, be yes. The with the predominant theory is that the AIDS specific type of odorant cased molecule will interact with a specific type of receptor and when it does the chemical in that molecule, that food molecule unlocks the receptor. By doing that, its translated into an electrical impulse boom. So you do. Your food up gets a speedy and saliva covered in a breaks down culture tongue, and that's when that transaction those electrical impulses are sent to the Un S tea, the solitary tract of the brain. Sorry, the nucleus of the solitary tract of the brain yeah, that's what I haven't! That's when it puts all these different tastes together and says delicious. I like this or more to the point, most probably going to kill you so stop eating man.

And, like we said, tastes, different flavour taste is just one aspect of flavour fur food item, a really anything they have a flavor. It includes not just the taste, but also smell the sight of it, the temperature of it how it feels to their firm. Is it a little too gelatinous? These are all things that your brain takes into account, including things like Risa you form from having a before air cat candy. When I was a kid gives me great memories: gas that plays a part in flavour. Exactly like you can like It really releases some different aspect of it that only you can experience that flavour yet like. If you had a cotton, candy jellybean, it would conjure up that memory and that would be part of the flavor rough experience yet or if it's one of your past lives, so that's kind of the science of taste and withdrew mommy specifically again. One other thing

the west was having trouble with, is accepting that you mommy was a real thing, was that there wasn't any with called psychophysical. Evidence that mommy was its own taste it right for a long time. They thought it was just a component of salty case because minor. Sodium glutamate is a type of salt right yeah. It's assault, protein combination. That makes a message. And for many many years was the only the only source of whom army taste but, finally, in the eighties, whence they had the first international symposium on new mommy, the real thing and that that was a party the other was took as it was in Hawaii her and the Japanese and Americans love Hawaii, solve everybody. Was hurting down there. They started to do It is in the early eighties, and they found oh

We know there are specific receptor cells on the human tongue and it turns out not just in human terms, but mostly human tongues. There are designer geared towards accepting resenting who mommy tastes the tray. Others are the e g protein coupled Receptors g pc hours, and that is for sweet, bitter and mommy and sovereign salty those all different those sort of flow through, on channels which is way over. My head to be honest, This is like, if a molecule deposit, charger negative charge, if it's the positive I honour- has positive charge second and make it through all sorts of the channels. It's only gonna make it through positive channels. Dissent is simple, I know, but as far as relating to a tasted, the sort of our committee,

man, that's the whole thing. It's like you said it's like it's a! U your brains is through the man if its transaction is taking it out like a chemical and turning it into an electrical charger. I just think there's an awfully fastened, oh sure, the senses and how they work. It's like it's amazing, but to stay electricity in electric electrical generation agreement, That episode, electricity, maybe one of our best- if you ask me, agreed right so what we have we have here are three kinds of receptor cells that they know are that that respond to this combination. That makes up I what Jesus, I'm sorry! What your mommy is. It's that enough Senate the gun I laid in the industry and what they think is that they actually.

Hold on to these. These compounds hold on longer, which is why you get these interesting combinations. When you have like cheese with an apple for cheese, on an apple pie, right, it takes sweet, unlike doesn't it make it sweet it makes it like sweet in a different way, Riah exactly the same again when, when you mixed together different types of either amino acids, nucleic assets, they create a new mommy taste. They magnified mommy. None of this is meeting us of the whole thing and am also with, I believe, salty. Oh yeah, oh Mamma, insulting mixed together in the fact that it it hangs onto that them molecule longer here, and it is leave that charge going then that sweet can come and go, but it's it's affected by

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had a part in evolution in that we were just wired to know that if you something sweet is probably okay to eat, and that will give us nutrition so then, really better may be dangerous to eat. That might be poisonous reporters exceptions to all of this yeah how's, your pretty good general rules when it comes to. Evolution right that that was the evolution. Explanation for the sense of here, but what I dont get in is where in here does it explain that evolutionary method of mommy like what role it played. I gotta see ready. Well, is this part about cooking? Yes, oh, it was very poorly state really wants, but it's really interesting it immediately when she realizes that, so you say mommy is is like one of the newer tastes or something like that actually is yet configure out like what part of the seven evolution. No, but even book they're like if you look at it evolution airily speaking, it is actually very all supposed

the receptors are very old. Four hundred million years old, or something like that, but the idea that we can tasty mommy or us tasting you mommy is very actually fairly recent, because. But Molly is released by cooking food. Yeah like if you eat a bunch of raw hamburger, that's that's can be mommy tasting. Second, it is very good, but you cook that hamburger and You have molecular early changed its composition. You ve unlocked some of the proteins into constituent amino acids and all of a sudden you ve got mommy taste like, noisy along in a completely different than the taste a bra, onion or even a just, regular growling, and yet in the misery of all this evolution, airily speaking, is that what you're doing, one of the biggest sources of mommy taste is glutamate. Well, that's great, but the human body produced

hence a glutamate. So it wouldn't makes sense that we would have a taste receptive to in nature right because we got enough in our body you need other essential amino acids and if it figures that the Swayed a giddy amino acids is to cook or ferment food. Yet you won't need you need fire. Because amino acids can be bound to proteins. Don't absorb them as well, or a body spends a lot more energy breaking down in digesting. Then, if we cook them or if we ferment them the man Events fire man starts to cook food man. Answer more rapidly. Yes, that's one of the ideas there why our brain it develops as well as it did or we'd be came as intelligent as we did with from cook food, so we were able to break down. Are

lot more easily and gain from absorb it and basically growth, huge brains. That's us where it came from cooking and where do we get our mommy taste from cook or from any food where these put of a broken down in a much more easily absorbed me no acid constituents. I like that. I agree I feel I know I just made a confusing, though, did it come cross now? It's it's totally makes sense. We learn how to cook food, and that put us at the head of the evolutionary ladder right am who mommy tastes comes from cooker. For many very clear, what is not clear, or maybe it is clear- is immense. She bad for you. A lot of people say it makes me dizzy or makes my heart flutter herb. You know the immensity crash after you go the chinese food before others.

Something called chinese food syndrome not had not through. Apparently it's a myth. Suppose you possibly culturally bound syndrome where, like very few other cultures outside of the United States for the West, even Think of the idea that amnesty can make you sick and that its apparently psychosomatic reaction, the where you expect Amherst she's, going to make you sick. You get sick, yet that's one explanation, maybe you're body or our bodies, or just different in Hawaii process and metabolize immensely. Or maybe you have indeed a little bit too much of anything can be abandoning right. Could be all these things, but what science is saying is there is no evidence that industry is bad, for you called on good right, apparently, study after study found that people that you'd the amnesty doesn't cause he's things. Yet it's it's weird, so get off a couch lazy.

You just lookin for excuse the not cut the crap and so Amis G again it has come about, has come about. Appear in the: U S, but it's everywhere, and it was actually one of the first things that yeah professor a killer, did. Was he figured out a way to patent extracting man assume glutamate from

Which is where it, how much more abundantly than unlike kelp and package it into a seasoning, and he had no ill will he's like this- is great. This can make that boring dish like tastes better, but that healthy, boring dish tastes better exactly so. It's not that it's erotic, then that people think it's bad for you when, in fact, when he package that he was like this is gonna be good for you. It's gonna make this thing, that's good for you, taste, even better in our country, is going to be very healthy, right, yeah, but it's hard to find. He said it was in everything, but its disguised and ingredients. Yet again, stealthily chemistry has a bad rap here in the west. Here they should just put emissary right. They they do sometimes for the most part, though they will call us something Hydro lies the wheat protein here because remember it can be extracted from we. Sometimes, though, colleges, natural flavors yeah, because all these things are natural exactly what else texture eyes vegetable protein idolize, EAST

tracked right, yeah or just natural flavour. So if you see that there can be a lot of things, though, with this natural flavors sure yeah, you don't- which are you, now, but there are some upsides to using the same as she is actually actually can be used in the way that Professor Acadia envisioned it, which is taking stuff and making it slightly hell you're. Actually, when you have when you use certain like a potassium chloride, rather than sodium chloride, yes to make amnesty, you can actually replaced the sodium in a dish. So if you ever sodium problem, you can you some of this stuff yesterday about that low fat food that didn't take so good and will demonstrate tastes better. Although recent medical research suggests that you should be not eating welfare food that regular fat food is not every or hey all person, you don't take so get anymore.

Anything medication that even dampens that why don't you thought chemistry on their right? Why don't you join those experts back to life? Yes, so chuck whether Embassy Isabel Raffer, not it's definitely all over the place and it is making things tastes good. In my opinion, to monitor it is but there's other ways to to get any mommy flavour out of food, and this this article actually has some helpful tips for your cooking. If you want to go and cook and given army taste, you ever been to remember no, I haven't the sounds. Also it's good. I like it is something you can make one at home with the mushrooms. Mommy burgers a chain unaware but I had in LOS Angeles and they add a powder, mushroom and sea weed to the beef which also

ass, you don't even know what you're eaten, except that it takes good right. You know here I'd like to take the mushroom at sea within this programme right, it's your mommy flavoured with money, and you know it's interesting there, sir I think it's called like mommy information, dot com or something like that really interesting site, but they point out that while you associate you mommy with asian cooking, actually, found all over the world like in ITALY, with tomato sauces and catch up in the United States. It's in cheeses in Europe in West Africa. They have something called Is it called some Barbara? I think it's kind of I got me so in West Africa that sounds kind of delicious yeah symbolic. That sounds good looks like the sounds of exactly so it don't you think. They're like people had been cooking, withdrew, mommy, stuff lol

for we ever knew. The word you mommy It's been around the world too. Harmonizing onions. We mention in like butter, nothing better What else you can put parmesan cheese rinds into a superpower? when it old mommy that thing up, that's a good one! If you're making a stock use bones of an animal against that gonna think with a guy who invented veal stock is reputed to have believed that there is a fifth taste that had we been identified back in the nineteenth century I'll just boil this calf and he's like that alone is something something going on here. Besides the beef, the big for nobody believed him,

if you're cooking with mushrooms- and I recommend this with all vegetables, so restless things a little bit. First. Readings are all kinds of labours and it makes your brain beggar like if you, if you gotta, make an omelette, don't just throw raw peppers and stuff in their cook. That stuff up a little bit on the side, then add that to the egg mixture it makes the world of this Yeah yeah, I'm omelettes everybody. She watched internet, rounded, just just to get an idea of what like our little gesticulations, are going. You Talkin Valley, cooking papers on the side, throw him in there like this. You make him very cool hand. Gestures over. There were always a joke with it Think about it almost stand on the beach one day. It's my retirement job, nice, like wine. Almost stain on the beaches like this, no one's ever done it now they will the beach land there. The hot sun like equity is an army have every time. I think that is what my return

job to be very slow pace than not busy family or get to eat omelettes. You got anything else, cooking with wine, is a good one to the Emerald city. Now does go forth and try. Coming up your dishes and you will be happy. You will be happy say us its ill, be an indefinable quality but you'll never to mommy. Yes to be some about it and put my finger on it. You'll see the stuff is my again these delicious roughly in Japanese. Oh my. If you want to know more about whom army you can take, that word in the search bar has therefore tat. Come and simplicity of army. It's time again for a listener. Male gonna call this

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don't even know why I just meant censoring truckers upon it. Like you, Mommy Cinema, I wonder how many times have we should ever do mommy counter there, because I don't know if we are familiar with the technology to do that at the end and distance into big pile of salty dried fish debts. I seriously and making some top notch. Mr soup, I've been inspired to get ready to carry the area. Well, I've got a pretty good at sour soup, but I make it from a mix such this, I'm going to make some like dashi and me so from scratch, one, like ferment, soybeans or anything like that, lay and make your own dodgy nothing dashi should make your own does nothing to make my I should have bad my apartment smell if I like from

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