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I remember watching Oliver North testify me too and my sisters, I he so dreamy, look at how much poise he has his dress greens on writing. Wrangles metals had his boy three fingers up my. I really think he didn't do that, a even as an adult, like everything I knew about IRAN, Contra like until researching this. It was just the glossiest version will mean hours like ten and eleven to you are like seven and eight sure sure, but I mean like is still overtime. You age, you like. Oh that's what was going on or oh that even as an adult, my conception of it was now very thorough at all and as a dog in time like this is one of the ship, These things, Amelia is ever don't ever yeah, and it was really great to do this in like now. I know it now have understanding of what happened in if it ever comes up at a party

and people like. I was that all about anyway, and we like well, please sit down for an hour and other support. My smartphone and player actually maybe an hour and a half or see how this year yeah by the way everyone? This is a two part or yeah buckle up, and so this is part one. I figured we start with the beginning. I That's really get idea that reminds me of my and in college watched the movie, which when was it, we gonna burn short cuts. We gonna burn the movie that was on to video cassettes why it was so long. You know I had put him up that magnolia a bridge too far I can't remember what my friend in college, very, very famous among our friends, watch the second tape first and then watch the first tape. Second, and didn't really put it together. She was just like, I thought I was little confusing- really I saw, is acceptable and then she was like and then she showed up in the in the second part

I was like she's already dead. She was gonna country. This is gonna work, the most one of them anachronisms. Well, listen an anachronism because we're gonna be normal, smart thing, people and started the beginning. That's right! There is really no better placed to start them the election of Ronald Reagan and nineteen. Eighty Ronald Reagan fewer failure with him already when he was president he already been Governor California, but even before that he had a pretty extensive career in Hollywood, and while he was pretty big, star in Hollywood least, B plus West, if not a step, He was a medium sized star sure definitely way more famous as president, then he ever was a movie star. He learned to detest communism, at the time. Communism was a really big thing. In Hollywood like it was very fashionable.

Oh especially among the intellectuals of Hollywood Leah, and he learned to hate it so much so that by the time you get to be president, he had this idea that there was. It was impossible for capitalist democracy and communism to co, exist even peacefully on earth. You couldn't have both yet of one or the other and by God Ronald Reagan was getting. To it that the one that we had was a capitalist democracy. Yet he wanted to stamp out. Communism wherever a reared its head and it was rearing its head, it close to home, which will see her in a second but all over the World oh yeah for sure he it was called the Reagan. Yeah bits and pieces of it were right and he came up with the Reagan doctrine and the Reagan doctrine was. We will aid any any opposition to communism wherever it sprouts like if you're, if you're fighting against the Communist revolution,

was pour your country if you're a rebel fighting against the leftist communists government, help you overthrown, that's the Reagan doctrine yeah, Visa MA am the arms training, the covert operation. Now that we carried out ourselves yeah, there were all kinds of ways that we could and did help stem the flow of communism. Yet so there is, as you were, saying, there's a place: pretty close to home were communism spouted up, and there was Nicaragua down in Central America in Central America in the thirties. This, The needs to government had taken power and had held onto power well into the Seventys and by the time, the early eighties and Israel I recognise that there was a communist power right there that was being supported by the Soviet Union through Cuba, us Simply I have never gotten. The impression of this has ever conclusively proven. They definitely got support from Cuba, but whether

the Soviet Union. Who is really calling the shots and Nicaragua, Nicaragua or not. I don't know yet, and I think you know to go even further, back, and draw the lines a little even more clear. The sandinistas were name for Augusto. Send Dino, who led the nest. Was rebellion against what the? U S: occupation, of Central America, others it started her, that's what it all started in from nineteen. You know the: U S: occupied zone, the banana worse. So we occupied Nicaragua from nineteen, twelve nineteen, thirty three for life reasons. But one was like hey: no one's going to build a canal here. Unless it's us right sort of one of the main reasons and that all ceased and nineteen thirty three with Roosevelt's good neighbour policy, which is basically like we're gonna pull out in Nicaragua a really here, ok, so but we had our fingers all over Central America right for many many many years and that's why, when people forget

she was not to remember when people fleeing horrible, Sid nations in Central America to come to United States now, like kind of where all these horrible situate and started years and years ago right, because the things that we did right well, we when Reagan became president, intervening in Nicaragua, Nick Man, I'm gonna, have a hard time of it. I can't Nicaragua in intervening in Nicaragua became like a like, first and foremost priority for the future, almost immediately. They started funding the Contras they counter rebels are the good groups who are fighting against the sanity, the government. They were right. Wing groups they were funding on. They were training in, like you're, saying they're doing all this secretly. There is an operation called operation, black Eagle man that one that was something else yeah so

we were already funding coming in. At the time, Congress was on Board and Congress was on board, especially a first, because the Republicans control the house will you now, when somebody comes into steam rolls over the other party, usually oppressed, central election, there very frequently theirs it. In the mid terms, the congressional midterms there's a backlash against that like swept believe it or not. The happen. Ronald Reagan, nineteen, eighty two and the house did flip they flipped over to the Democrats. Adds an dumb that Democratic Control house combined with the news we cover story that came out kind of turn, the tide against Higgins Policy on helping out in Nicaragua yet see, I direct your name, William Casey, who was he's gonna tell in Congress what they needed here here and there you have been here, vague briefings that that was probably a generous way to say it, sir

times case? He would send another guy, though named Dwayne Dewey Clarity and This is where things really went south because clarity did not present New Congress at any time Congress like there being subverted. Or ignored or like kept out of the loop or like not able to offer their checks and balances on the executive branch they really get mad. New, unlike our seeing that today, like like history, just repeats itself over and over again exactly yeah and in this particular case, the place where the administration, ragged administration in Congress, distorted buddy, has ever Nicaragua. It was doing clarity here. You know he just that's how poor job he did, but in his defence he was coming from a place He was a see a man through and through, and this is less than ten years after Congress had just basically rooted out the CIA help public hearings. That's when, like that,

Kay Alter came out in the fact that they been dosing unsuspecting Americans with LSD. S got his defense. He was mad because they and covered all the awful things that had been right. True, compassion, Cerulia compassion. So so This is starting to get a little unhappy with this and it was one Congress, men and in particular named Abu Edward Bowl, and I believe and he's from Massachusetts, and he said hey. I just read about this cover story in news weak. As a title America's Seeker WAR call in Nicaragua seems like they should have flip flop. That Nicaragua Colin America's secret war. I think they both have the same angle, but he was. I wait why my reading about this in a magazine? Yes and I'm a member of Congress right because at this time, like congresses, ok, we think we're just kind of funding. Things were may be helping out a little bit this new

magazine was ignored or no it's way more than that yeah like theirs, way more american involvement on Nicaragua, then than you ve, been led to believe Congress actual covert CIA ops. Like? blowing up bridges and blowing up buildings and me no direct saboteur type ops. Yet not just hear some yeah, and then you know you you closed this one. I believe this I open when you're shooting there was way more involved than that or we could just do the shooting rub. Basically, make it here. Just let me do it so Congress. In the guise of admirable and said: nope we're not doing that and they pay the ball in amendment, which basically said he, if you cannot use CIA funds, are to depart defence department funds to aid. The contrasts in Nicaragua, it's done good night it went to sleep, and so that should have been the that's the end of a right. Does Congress panacea

What was at last now pass an amendment in ACT and act to everyone to stopped right. That's how it works. I was particularly about words is gonna say your quietly. So this did not stop it during the here's. What happened in nineteen eighty, three The CIA had this one operation where they went into the commercial shipping harbours of Nicaragua boy. I know it's do said a right. My head all morning, Nicaragua and they put minds there. You know, for us was a landmines, but there were see minds. Am I floating minds, and the idea here was working plan. These mines that we're going to whip up our press releases for the countries where they take credit. Or like we don't even trust underwrite a good press release raised with me. I rode the press release so where the contracts are saying that they did it

The overall effect it's gonna have. Is there not enviable ship arms vii of the seaport at least right into Nicaragua and puts it also makes the cat just look way more together, church and with it than they actually work. Right, like all we need to do, is get some money and I gotta covered right, so the CIA does this and in their thinking, okay, so my area, shipping in the Nicaraguan Harbours is gonna. Stop. It does not stop now, as a matter of fact, there their words, there is damage to their use, little firecracker minds which make a big blast in a lot of water everywhere. Both the big ship second hurt the ship. Will it sunk a lot of small fishing vessels right, but it also David ships from the Netherlands, Great Britain, Dupes, Japan, India and the EU. Thus our commercial ships, so the Wall Street Journal broke the story and said: hey you guys, you can You remember how you pass as amendment saying there could be, see I involvement in in Nicaragua. Well they mind the harbor of the sovereign nation and a blue

a bunch of other other country ships in Congress. Once again, thank man, you keep doing secret thing behind your back right. That really makes us mad right to take a break. Our I was taken. Break you should now push shop stuff. You should now Amy it's me jack right here right next year by next to me, just like a work, hey one join with you to tell people too tune in to a very special episode special year of tedious,

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stuff, you should know again, if you guys What is Congress do they're like are at their mad? We passed one bowl and member, which I don't think we said shook. The first bowling moment was passed four hundred and eleven to Z, oh here unanimously saying not mess around and Nicaragua anymore. It's when you know congresses mad right when they unanimously agree on something again, then the Wall Street Journal breaks a sorry about the harbor mining. Long, after the bullet memos past and now coming it even matter right, so they two more amendments, Poland amendments because there were loopholes. Basically that allowed. You know that U s a sort of do these things semi legally, so it

like well here's a loopholes that was a really fully illegal, the right stuff. That's like the Reagan administrations Way bearing PIG, closes loopholes, and now this was like it was pretty ironclad on about ironclad, but it is pretty tight amendment wise at the very least com, walked away, thinking, it's dine, etc. We made our quite clear, right, royal reg sign these in the law. Here he didn't, he did not return. No, he accepted these things, I think even said like yeah. This is a good idea, great way to go Congress and signed it. I'm not gonna, do arabian impression by dumb, so Congress that the matter was settled, but it wasn't settled like this is how laser focused. Reagan was on it done overthrowing enemies to government down in Nicaragua? He just took a seat a operation in took it even further

underground than it had been before? Basically, he was like. Ok, if you guys are outlaw the stuff words is gonna have to, get even more illegal. Yes, there are a couple of factions here work. One was this continued operation underground, deep underground now and then was Reagan's public like he still wanted to get. Your money from Congress, so I didn't have to do this stuff, so he kept up this public pr campaigns Beating this drum about communism matter doorstep, he said that the contrast with the moral equals of our founding fathers. That's a big going to pull out, like that's a direct quote, our founding fathers and darted in with IE and again you see this. Can repeating itself the campaign of fear where he basically said unless we do something tough here There will be a tidal wave of feet. People aren't you that means, but that's that's seems super offensive sworn

into our country, he meant you know refugees feet, people seeking a safe haven It was one word even I think Wentworth it's funny to dissolve the people, not a company that, like I think, make shoelaces and there I can send you. Don't you see that cod so this is all going on and on download all the operations are going on and on the public facing side Reagan's. Just continuing this pr push right, basically, Congress, legalese heartless old you no gas bags. Off the funding to these founding their moral equivalent to our founding fathers go further Does that office and vote in some people who will turn the funding back on yeah? the countries may have been fighting communism. They were, doing so through means that the founding fathers probably would not have approved of like murder and torture, and rape and mute mutilation, kidnapping and not. You know. I mean

wasn't so widespread that it was like that's all they were doing, but they would resort to those tactics. And that's not founding father stuff, no stiffly, as far as I've ever learned now and on the exact I mean his head of few hundred couple hundred years to come out here and it's still hasn't so yeah. I read some of this stuff. Do you like some of the Athens Avis were like just pretty oh yeah. Do that the the war down in Nicaragua, the civil war here that the? U S basically fermented and supported. It went out for a decade I give was it went on in the nineties and it was like not just like Countryman am against countrymen civilians were getting murdered by the scores and just they would get kidnapped and tortured and killed in I guess it was a really brutal time in Nicaragua and the regular Jason's right in the middle of a slight, providing as much aid as they can to one's idea, and it is one of the big problems was that the countries back then, were a bunch of different factions

right in answer to a single leader, and thing. I got out of the affidavits one of which this woman described them. Taking her children, and her finding their mutilated bodies and at stake is a brutal. The leader said that there's there's no disciplinary system at all within the Contra groups oh yeah, yeah like there there's no accountability. You could do anything you wanted and there's no discipline set up, so it was just we're fractured and no You know was talking to each other and it was just a big mess right, but Reagan was doing his best to pain everything in black and white right, conscious, good, sandinistas, bad, so anything that contrasts did was good and stuff that couldn't Pain is good, would just be denied or glossed over, not reported on that's right, so wild rob Higgins out running around trying to drama public support for the contrasts and thus congressional aid being turned back on and also saying. Don't you drug

Here? Yes, big, won't. Even though shipping allotted drugs back in very softly written another, you know all that stuff. You know, yeah he's also secretly. Boarding them going in flagrant violation of what congresses said, though, that America can do. He tells us people you months, the conscious movement to be kept alive. Body and soul is how he put it. Which any basically said do it? This is what history is told us is that Reagan basically said, keep the contrary, been alive body and soul, I'm gonna go work on Congress, I'm putting my hands over recent years. From now on. Where did idea? Not we who probably never no right to the cells in order. That is far as the history books is concerned here, those that's. What happened right, so here's what they did. They said the CIA has a bad rap for a lot of reasons in Congress is not super friendly Will they expressly forbade the CIA from operating rights?

he said, here's what we're going. Do we're gonna use the National Security Council and there, the CIA chief, William Casey, he's around he's gonna, just like it here and there and William cases like No, I really gotta be involved, as this is really good stuff like no. No we're talking like officially here is our has correctly so at first so whatever he was like a an additional boss to heed to the main guy, the guy the guy everybody's heard of in whose name jumps to mine. We hear about this lieutenant unofficially right. I think, even in some cases kind of steps- especially if you went if you live through the IRAN Contra hearings in you. Familiar with only north, like you a guess there, everybody's heard of the guy who's, my whose name jumps to we hear about this lieutenant Colonel Oliver, North North and in in in retrospect, especially you went if you live through the IRAN Contra hearings in you're, familiar with Ali North, like you, a guess that when Ali North was tat to head

greater to the ninth degree right, bread is not at all correct. Now, career marine, very high, keep the Contra movement alive and kicking that all we know is there a bad, a over operator to the ninth degree right It is not at all correct, career, Marine, a very highly decorated marine, sir. It is like the present in our internal. I think recently now I think you're. Some scandal that has happened where there were it came out that he like tried to depose a guy and too many many Americans. He is still like TAT american hero guy or not, as the president of our until I think recently now I think there's some scandal that has happened where there was it came out the he like tried to depose Wayne Lapierre, something like that.

I don't u, but even beyond that, like even beyond whether he's a a up guy or not. As far as you know, patriotism is concerned you're, just job experience, none there. He had no experience whatsoever as far as I could ever tell in covert operation. He did it. And he had no expert he's learning as he went there just making it up ass, he went along and he really did do a pretty good job of it. If you look at it from there, and Intel arm shadiest stuff. It was doing stuff, those so shady the c I a what even today, in the dark about it. That's how shady the stuff Ali North was doing in He had no expert he's learning as he went there just making it up ass. He went along and he really did do a pretty good job of it. If you look at it from that angle, just as forest like getting get nor done right so what they basically designed was all right. If we can get the real task, pair money, unlike official funds, will discuss raised,

and on the side and secret through business people that- and you know we can have these big parties and dinners and say hey, listen, communism is knocking at our door. This wouldn't be good, for America will be good for your company and want give us a money open up. The cheque book Reagan here, you wanna photo here. Sometimes he would show up to these secret fund razors and it was. It was really worked like they raised a ton of money from the business elite of America to stop the Sandinistas yet Nicaragua, so they actually forget this. They founded, they had to private citizens, found a nonprofit national endowment for the preservation of liberty. Its sole purpose was to get these fund these illicit funds to send to the countries which means that the people who are donating to the president's ill, we'll secret proxy war could write their donations off on their tax. It sets it it's just my

Glenn hilarious in some senses, yeah, but they were not. The must stand up nonprofit because, as you point out, they re so point three million dollars through that organization. During eighty five. Eighty six about three point: three million made it to the countries, and so that means that fifty two percent programme expense rate- that's pretty bad There are now three million dollars it took supposedly to run to run that nonprofit those fund raising breakfast for a year, yeah pretty bad good omelettes, though so yeah you're the best idea. So from this this deal like ok, this is this probably kind of legal were just fund. Raising right, we're, giving any american taxpayer funds were just getting other people, the donut private citizens. Saudi Arabia was a big one and is also stop communism. So, like Their intentions were that, oh definitely, there's were yeah, and but there is a definite and just

eyes the means sharing a thing and in a really isn't the prisoner, really the most powerful person in the world right. Can Congress really tells the president what to do as far as foreign policy goes there? Those kind of the idea, I think so, Howdy Rabies donated a bunch of money, there's always private citizens donating money and here's the thing. The conscious found themselves for love with cash, many millions of dollars over just two years ago, radio alone donated the two million to the contrary. This is a couple of loose. The affiliated factions fighting in two spots of Nicaragua has suddenly have thirty, a million dollars at their disposal near the problem. Is they don't have the contacts the international arms trade, to buy arms with this money? There's a bunch of minor like who wants this right and they were getting crick. I've got some bombs right. You know the Khartoum

his black kind, the round ones that are highly fifteen other before Craigslist to write. So they're only. Their only avenue was to go back to the Americans and Oliver North. And he began working with Gunning Richard see cord, he was a retired, forced retired will get that in a minute, airforce major General- and he had a lot of experience, there was a group of deeds in the nineteenth century. These and eightys that were formerly a currency, a former CIA former and current american military who were all had their fingers in the illegal arms trade right. So exactly What you can imagine a Hollywood writer would come up with you. This is the real life version on yet for sure. So they would they would you could form out assassinations they couldn't rustle of mercenaries. They could carry out sabotage

operations they could find whatever gone bomb knew anything you need some money laundered beyond write, anything that is eggs or nearly illegal and deals in death like these guys could get their hands on using poison done, be sure, o o a bomb disguises a brief case. We got it buddy there and they would here's the other thing to. They were in a legal black market arms ring They were also even more illegal and that they would sell to whoever, whether your enemy or a friend, America, it didn't matter. These guys were parading well above any sort of national loyalty or anything like there. This is about making money sure, like many milk five dollars yeah you're right so especially Galaxy gourd. He was it. He was in it to make dough, definite, whereas an Alley North was seemingly in it to stop that. You know communism right, so that's it. An important point that the fact that they that they contract with sea cord to kind of swoop in and help hook the Contras up with

arms means at the Reagan. Administration is contracting with this extraordinarily illegal black market arms ring, yeah, one of which they took down some of these dudes over the years when one of em I one of the founders of the sky, Was a CIA op name Edwin Wilson, he He was sentenced. He served twenty two years, twelve of which are in solitary confinement but was sentenced to fifty two years. Illegally arming Libya with ten thousand machine guns in twenty tonnes of C4 that he hid in rules of mud and flew on a charter jet to Libya, write him Hollywood Stu. I know it really is like this really happened. It's crazy and it wasn't just Libya. This guy was funding or outfitting or could Alfie Eddie, I mean was another customary like whoever. If you need to keep a stranglehold on power in your country, where the people to help you do that and when I teased earlier about Richard, see cord being

forced into retirement that was due to his connection with with Edwin Wilson right, so he was forced to retire from the air force. They and pin anything on item, but those enough of a connection there where he had stepped out there. You can do this the hardware, the easy way we're gonna, give you the option. Ain't took these USA and then he went on to make a lot of money right here. I got a lot to do with arms dealing thing. Full time now write any. He did so when they brought him in at first see cord was basically acting is like a very laissez, faire intermediary. He was basically the guy who, of Ali North is like you. I can introduce the contrary to my friends in the arms ring yeah incur of all places yeah, he introduced the consciousness of canadian arms dealer. So now the set up was this: the friendliest arms are

all these, but also really put all in somebody a year or sorry had meant to include rocket launchers on that order or ignoring those pretty get. So I see cord was just there to make some introductions make sure things went smoothly and then that it was up to the cod is to use these funds that were coming in from other people and by weapons from the Canadians. The EPA right, you think. Ok, that's fine! As that it still has. I guess, light veneer of arms link. Legality as far as America's concerned yet- and we should mention too that heed to do this, he's he set up a oil company the stand for technology trading group, with an iranian american business. Man named Albert Hakim

who knew how to get around certain official procedures and stuff like that he's another guy who could get things done so he set up swiss Bank accounts untraceable accounts because that's what you do right to run the funds through, and this became known as the enterprise, there at Stanford Technology trading. Company groups are angry ok aid enterprise- that was like everybody called it- that cause they're like the sounds way cooler. The enterprise are like your alluding to you think it would have been going great, the countries in the north, who was the after they were the largest by far the largest group. The better organised from what I hear. They were doing a pretty good job, but in the south they were not doing a very good job. No somehow we're like we don't have the arms and equipment daily putty talking about you have the same amount of money of the same contact yeah just by the West and the girl? No, so

Ali nor zig. Ok, here's what gonna do he called the lead of the FDA and to alone to Miami to me with many said hears. Here's how it's gonna be from now on there. Any veneer of legality is going out the window from now on I'd like you to meet you new boss, Richard See Court, not only is he going to make sure have arms he's going to take the funnel money himself by the arms himself and then he's going to have it kicked out. Playing over your camps. So now America is directly involved in supporting and arming and training the Contra rebels in the north and the south of Nicaragua, and if there was any and if there is any kind of legality, it's totally gone at this, yeah and, in the meantime, see cord and a keen were marking up their stuff as much as like three hundred per

Do they made a lot of money offer this year? They made a time, but they put it up. They put a lot back into the inner presently they took this job very seriously. I was accordingly if you are, if you were only north, you are quite happy with the work you are getting from Richard see CORD and Albert. I came because the shipments went out. Fine. They got everything they needed. They had so much money they had left over, but they were so investing it into the enterprise they bought planes. Rented airstrips they hired please be contracted with other, like gum airlines like a CIA front, the care remember the name of their right now, but they were we're doing the work for sure Great Healthcare, the best part of it all of the all of the countries had really nice teeth after Richard See, took over work from home. It's over the break here and will come back and bring it home four part one with a little bit about the propaganda machine that was set up

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Is unknowingly totally hooking up the key just on basically running this proxy war. The countries are fighting against the Sandinistas government right The enterprises working full bore an ethic if it couldn't get any more illegal if you thought it can get any more illegal prepared to just be knocked right over yes, here on the home, it was decided that their needs to be a pretty massive and dense propaganda campaign and and we're not talking about Reagan, just going on the news talking about communism being at our doorstep, which I met a real, the old propaganda campaign and set up an office, the Office of public diplomacy for Latin Erika in the Caribbean. That was founded a managed by cuban american name, auto rife and this was all exposed later on by the mighty Harold by them. Running of a guy named Alfonzo charity yeah

this one interjected earthquake, and so do you remember when you ve done. You know historic stuff in the past and I might go read the contemporary articles. There was easily Zaga really good reporting gone on, because the story was so huge and multi faceted. Oh yeah me Newsweek broke it before Congress. Now nearing the Washington Post broke it yet There are three Journal year: three journalists in the Miami Harold yeah malaise, I'm still a lot of really wonderful, like in my back here but it was back when it wasn't, like, oh think, peace, think peace peace actual, are, I think, peace. Think piece. You know it's like real wording and even then it still that wasn't up the snuff. In the end there were actual journalist, like actually paying attention and writing about this stuff and informing the public about, and this is when you- and I were kids- and I think, like maybe even the seeds of us, because we both cannibal had desires to be real deal. Journalists in our lives. At one point here, we'll get us now speaking up for the joke are

p mad magazine, oh yeah, what a shame! The editor that reboot didn't work here. Some of it is it's. It's tough biz these days and I got friends that worked form to like this recent reiteration. Oh really, yeah declaration. Oh yes, I know one other illustrators is sufficient fan from years back here, three to Jessica, so it is aid is reference that ill? I really was adopted so I disagree on they. They set up this office run by Otto Reich and this whole thing was nine and orchestrated by the CIA, but here's the deal the sea. I wasn't supposed to be doing this. They were barred from doing this year. There is a long standing like prohibition, the CIA, from operating in the? U S, basically like. We know who you are and we know you're so good. You can use that stuff.

You can only use it over is fine if you go overthrow other countries and on your mind, tricks, yea use those on other groups, but you can use them here in the states actually Reagan himself also had his own executive order explicitly banning the CIA from at sea doing any activity that was intended to influence United States political processes, public opinion, or media. This is Reagan's executive order, twelve thousand three hundred and thirty three, and he at least his administration was like forget about that. Will just get around that yeah and who was this. It says here that date, the CIA's, like biggest for most psychological, warfare, expert, right, retired from the agency officially and then was hard as a consultant I guess to this office of? but diplomacy was that Oughta Reich. Was that someone else? I don't know,

the little boy were yeah, but that was held. That's why I was saying earlier, like Reagan, that's the Reagan Administration Way, just like here's the way of the law. Well, let's change this letter in our sentence and now we're following the letter of the law right. You know and that's what they did so, the CIA psychological warfare. Guy retired came on as it can, I said. Oh here's its do. You need to basically start setting up some sting operations because the the point This is too. I can remember who said this, but to paint urge to glue black hats on the sandinistas in white hats. On the contrary, in the public mind right, sir, When you say sting operations we mean literally the United States and Oliver North smuggling. Cocaine. In Nicaragua right photographing, the Neeson and officials with this shipment right and then smuggling Ok and back to the United States Spectre Florida back to Florida, like we talk

It will bring a bank chill man Unbelievable give us our drivers, licence is bang, so this photo publish this during the middle of the USA, movement, championed by Nancy Reagan yeah, so it all it all fit. On the surface But what was going on behind the scenes is just in it is continental unconscionable both by the so good, but this gave Reagan this photo. If they got published all over the place, I Andy's ice what's goin on the good guys, you're doing riser be they're, bringing this stuff into America, they'll kill and our get exactly right. So these are the people that were fighting or with their contracts are fighting. How can you keep the funding turned off for the contrast Congress? You jerk and that was the only evidence to yeah they Brady. In that case it somehow came out and said by the way. I don't know if anybody cares or not, but we have

no evidence whatsoever that this sand in eastern official has ever engaged in drug trafficking aside from this photograph, but this was a follow up, probably weeks after the pigs flash again original photograph came out, so there was one thing creation. If there is another one day, Men, Wallner Noriega, detonator of Panama, actually was selling drugs. America's youth that he was also a friend of the CIA exactly so much so that he was a CIA operated for a very long time gathered about a friend, but he was at least an asset right here, and so this seeing operation was they were going to through Panama. Have Panama arrange for a shipment of arms to be seized in Honduras, El Salvador, El Salvador idea on it, way to honduras- or maybe just in El Salvador, ostensibly arms from Nicaragua

You are basically saying your arming salvadorans, your arming hondurans. You re exporting you evolution possessing exactly the kind of thing that Ronald Reagan has been saying we need to contain. We need to pluck this, proud of communism out from Nicaragua. Kids are trying to spread out of the region, totally made up complete sting operation and it didn't even work because, meanwhile, Noriega was like I'd like that New York Times piece you guys just published about me. I meant to keep this shipment of arms from myself. We have no other virtues like I can do that. You're so maybe arms, and then we right. Ok, there will be a it's from the IRAN Contra Investigation, the disk meanwhile Noriega was that here, and a narco kleptocratic about the government that he ran he has allowed a gender or heard tat. He was ashamed of you that they come that this means drugs. Favourably and so on

what's going on in the United States in the in the mid eighties, yeah, here's the deal if you were a rapporteur at the time right in your reporting on the stuff, the inner seed didn't like that very much so they would meet with editors and reporters themselves. I envy I K. Can you like? Can you report the sandinistas that there really not good people like. Can you help us out a little bit right? Well, but here's the thing: If you didn't play ball right than did they cook up some story that they would that they would send like Sandinistas sex workers there to their life, pleasure. The reporters that was the the rumour was that if you are a journalist who report it favourably on the Sandinistas government. The reason you reported favourably animals, because the Senate the government of furnishing new with sex workers right that was that directly from office of public diplomacy, and I read the thing about it. They say the big I was like and we're not to stock and women either. If they were gay men than they would, we would send gay sex workers right so totally discredit them.

A complete Pedro other ever Bernay Playbook, its orchestrated, CS foremost, tax burdens. A logical warfare- and this is the state of amerika- in the MID eightys, but there was just one dimension of this whole thing, and I say is the end of part one. What do you think? I think that's great we're going to make this a cliff. That's right and it is per. We are not going to do a listener mail, but instead will do a call to early. Do just a little marketing call everyone. If you like stuff, you should know, we ve been So long were so bad at this. Yet we may to grow anyway. It's crazy tell a friend chairing episode with fright right now that they don't have to explain what explain what guessed podcast is right for cleaner now. Maybe with a good one like ballpoint pens or something you tell us and about the show leaving.

Review, or just any color of you at all on Itunes. That would help us out yeah, that's how classy chuck- and I are he corrected himself from good review to just any review whatever you only we're not going to try to influence. Even now, like the rigging White House, that's for profit I would really appreciate it spread a little of trying turn one person onto our part. Guess this week and that really helps us up nice shock. That sounds like a good pyramids. We like to do this once every five or six years. Well, thank you for joining us this week. If you want to get in touch. You can go on to serve, you should know dot com and check out our social links. You can also send us an email to stuff bag, as the Iheart radio Dotcom study should know its production. I heard radios how stuff works from what had cast my heart, Is it that I heard radio apple pie over every listen to your favorite?

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