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It's ready are you welcome to study, should now from house for external aid and welcome to the point cast. I'm Josh Clark, I'm about to brainwash Charles that each bright brain last week is. I can you ve capital is pick. Does that sound working hours believe it. I only got started buddy, I'm so confident my abilities to brainwash you. I can even tell you, how are you doing it? While I'm do you gonna come out on the other end executive which is a chicken you do confidence staring my belly check that brainwash its hypnotize. Have you ever known by whose brainwashed you ever known at cop member, no, but why do I feel you have? I bet caught members before he could she have?

in your drums circles there are part of the caution. Yoga call really yet totally nice harmless people with part of a cold. They endure Heavens Gate deal. No, no. Actually they do quite the opposite. They make like sandwiches for homeless people and stuff like that, and they don't wear Nicky's nuff know they were loosely fitting They did not the Heavens gate people and that one of the hallmarks hurry I keep anything and they were all other males were castrated. Their basically a sexual slick is a candle. Downy yeah well have found that the better You know, there's a kind of a hysteria associated with coal psych. You know if you are a member of a cold or even in a word about the kind of murder, but in the seventies big time

rather yet moonies the the unified unification churchyard brainwashing, was a big deal. Jim Jones is church honour what he called it an agenda right. Did you know, though, that what everybody considered brainwashing this is. This is rubbish, while what like torture, no no ok, there's actually distinction I found out was to camps right. Well, here's the thing you ve got actual brainwashing, which has been empirically demonstrated to work right on a person if it's carried out in conjunction with torture, right, there's, another thing called coercive persuasion, yes, and that Kelly brainwashing without without torture, which is why everybody you know is that's what they think that you know the moon data, Jim Jones Data David corrected, this using violence involved and called to me. I know now: there's not threat of violence. Perhaps

or is there brainwashing or at the very least it's never been empirically demonstrated that actually works right. I think the the willingness of the participants is often overlooked, especially by family men. Member right. So basically, what I'm saying is that the whole concept of courts is like these, these, the brain machine, it's not correct, brain washing machines or brain washing machines. Same thing gets the thought, reform, Josh yeah, but all of this can be traced back. This whole hysteria over brainwashing can be traced back to a british journalist by the name of Edward Hunter. I don't deserve extra research. Look at you! Oh, here's mention briefly in article, but he was in a fervent anticommunist. She wrote a book called, I think, brainwashing techniques of Red China

and it was published in nineteen. Fifty three me later testified in front of the Mccarthy Committee, the cynic him Senate on American Activities Committee here is quite right, but yes, close. I think I got all the words and is not in the right order and he basically skill the big Jesus out of everybody saying that the communists have brainwashing down to science. If anything, they gonna brainwash us all, not true wealth, No, I mean it's not like the communists, didn't try and specifically they tried most actively in Korea. It during the Korean. More right green and chinese captors did this to american soldiers were appeared, abuse to some varying degrees of success. I think they said that I sweaty one soldiers refused to combat

the United States when they were set free right and there's a little bit. Discrepancies is twenty one out of twenty thousand prisoners right, so some people say: are these guys aren't brainwash? They cannot combat? Yes, maybe they dug korean chicks or something maybe so yeah, mercury and its or yeah we're wide open here, stuff, you shouldn't, you know, whatever you want to do is largely not hurt. Nobody else were cool with it, but yet korean and chinese captors of these peel Debbie's did in fact have a systematic process of brainwashing in place, and they did it in conjunction with torture, so it could have actually worked. It could have- and I think this articles great the semi go inside Julia. He's got the goods were she does cheese, a great writer she- and I love it when we do package on her articles. Yeah is their discharge for good stuff with

oh laden, and so when I read this article F. I thought it made sense to me when I, when we're gonna break it down here in a man of how you brainwashed someone and it all added up ass. If while they could see how that would work the frequent yet so there was talk about it that there is a year as a college. Named lifted. Raw Robert J lifted right in here the one who started studying returning peered abuse from the korean conflict and he basically by cobbling together their information and their reports. He figured out the profit, the process of brainwashing. As you know, the Communists did it Really it wasn't anything new in the twentieth century phenomenon, it appears yeah Chairman MAO, actually wrote about it as far back as nineteen twenty nine in his little red book, which was published until nineteen sixty for ever, he call it. Are you ready for this guy and he called it see

One though ging wealth, with apologies to sassou over in Cuba and tried to teach me that pregnancy as she did she took a lot of time out of for that. When we were mortals measure at her candle, I sat there in a candy the whole time, she's helping media. So that means I thought, fought struggle yeah, which it makes sense, because what you are doing is your creating a conflict in the person that one way to look at it, but also, there's a struggle between the person whose being Brainwash, which is called the target right now, and the person is doing the brainwashing, which will in future for be referred to as the agent the agent right can a creepy asian target yeah yeah. So I should we talk about. Should we just go ahead, endure the steps of how you do it all it took about brainwashing is basin, is actually based on real psychology right out called social influence. Yet

she's everywhere, it's all around and there's three different little zones here, compliance which is just do it yet that's good way, set Josh and then this persuasion, which is I do it because you feel better more successful, more more happy too, because it feels good do because of you, and then the education made method witches do it, because it's the right thing to do right, which is also called the propaganda method, because if we don't, if you don't believe what you being taught- and we talked about propaganda, yeah, good stuff, was so it basically brainwashing is all of these things combined persuasion, compliance in education and taken to the Nth degree right. But it's generally carried out, like I said in conjunction with torture, and using techniques like sleep deprivation isolate isolation. You have you worry. You can't break someone if they're reading the paper everyday,

or if you send a mountain say right. That's enough! For now you can just go back right. Yeah much jeopardized I very for awhile cool your heels. Yes, I haven't seen it easily, such as the first thing you ass, a first things happen. Ok, so let's talk about it. Basically there's three main phases in that that lifting figured out the communist carried out can assume Do it breaking down himself step when introducing the past If salvation asian and read

Self part three yeah and I'm not gonna, make any comments about my back to suffering. In relation to brainwashing, I swear, I would not want to get this formal, the Edna Mightest. From now on voting. We won't go there, hello friends, I want to tell you about love book, the very easy way to personalize book to someone you love in three easy steps. Love books, helps customers express the sentiments that may be difficult to say out loud for some of us looking in anyone's particular direction, users can create characters that look just like themselves and the recipient right down to the outfits and accessories customers have the option to personalize each page as much as they like, but the express option creates a complete book with just a few clicks love, but now offers a membership programme as well. You receive a free book when you sign up fifty four.

And off any additional books, Unlimited free, digital books and discounts on gift, rap and other products. Love books are the perfect gift for all occasions or just because so right now you can check out love books. By going to love book online dotcom, Slash crush, you will receive a special twenty percent discount, that is it love book online Dotcom, Slash crush of Sir Checklist talk about break on the self which the first step well, it's it's basically just a constant attack, and we're going to talk about this in terms of the two The second is of a military type situation like you, ve got a stretcher that you capture, yet this the windows proven to actually work and yet even military situation prisoner of war torture. So, basically, that's when it see now you're you're, not defending your freedom. You not, anything good you're, not a man you're! Not a soldier is just a constant verbal assault on the senses.

You down right in your actually saying you're, not what you think you are like check. If I want to brainwash you, I would start with shot you're, not a hipster you're, not a hipster I am not a hipster job exactly now we're getting started now. What I would also do right now would be to isolate you as we mention for how it probably perform thank philander on you which is what do you think now. I would perform full anger. I knew it sounds like something involving beads and sticks in oils and stop now, it does involve, sticks Bamboo Keynes is actually being that the souls of the feet with Bamboo Keynes yeah hurts like you would not believe. I bet believe me about you and in actually also this. This isolation in one of my friend told me about it. I guess he's found it unlike the cuban manual which I have yet to see it, but it's called birthday party

and if you're, trying to disorient somebody here or break their their grip on reality. I think you could do. Is you know you're you're, salting the verbal, your attacking them all this in the middle everybody. Comes in wearing birthday hat with a cake and you liberate this guy's birthday, base hanging out talking eating cake. You know and fraternizing with the with the target and then, all of a sudden everybody leaves the parties over and then they get back to business of torturing them in really throws them off really yeah, because there yourselves in them, and then the next thing they know the year like their celebrating your birthday in saving your birthday, like you, have no idea what's going on and what you're trying to do is disorient the purse. Okay. So once you started. And disoriented. You are still you begin to lose your grip on reality right, And once that happens, you move in with the guilt telling them they're doing is actually very bad and their mission is bad. Their evil and sand. That gun like, I would tell you Chuck Chuck

you are not a hipster and you should feel poorly about the state of your goatee. How have you work on this and why this is off the cuff, buddy vs? Now, ok, so now, I'm beginning to set further into year the palm of your hand Josh, and now you going to move at me with their self betray and that's basically when I need to agree that I'm bad, so I'm starting to lose it to the point and starting to say yes, I am bad, so you knew you do feel year, goatee shoddy right. Any would force me to say that, and you made forced me to denounce my my friends in there cheese and my family and their goatee right yeah on board. You start denouncing things that that you hold dear all of a sudden your idea, these on the brink of crisis right, which brings us to the breaking point.

Right, that's when you're totally at their whim. Who am I? Where am I? What should I do right an end? You you're just completely lost any faith that you ve ever had in your yeah, you may be sobbing uncontrollably. You reached what we call a nervous breakdown, exactly become unhinged and you have lost your grip on reality, which, as Layton put it, Identity is up for grabs. You're right, you are literally a man without an identity. You have nothing that you attach yourself to any longer right too, then I'm broken down. Did that's the breakdown of the cell. You have broken me down to the point where I don't even know, which way is up that, then you come in with the little good cop, bad cop, You offer a little bit of leniency Jack. I maybe some water to someone I can help you out or that you're oil and even a break in the to me saying I don't want to hurt you or something like that. Small small gestures just become amplified

a choice, and now you have offered me a sip of your energy drink and Josh. I'm that's the most kind gesture anyone's ever paid to me right to give me that energy drink. I am indebted to you for showing mercy on me sure yeah. Well, you know that's leniency, Chuck and dumb it's the first step. The possibility of salvation razor, and that leads us into compulsion to confess there. That's a good one. So what I'm gonna do now Chuck is I tell you that by confessing that you were wrong in wanting to be a hipster thinking that you, a hipster ray wrong and liking, you're goatee graphic you stop feeling the psychological and physical pain. You're right. You can start feelings, in the shame that I've cultivated in you. I have a razor right over here. Her hyena yeah you achieve right so that which leads us to the channeling of guilt right. So you ve got this. In the shame that I have created a new by this point. You because you ve, entered the nervous breakdown,

You have no idea what you really feeling guilty or shamefully out and has no meaning behind, but you feel it constantly in over. Well, maybe you're right, so I am now going to give you that their way to get rid of your guilt right, you touch it to something which is your own beliefs, My own belief system, righteous, my goatee and my hipster present right now. I'm actually thinking you know what that is Why I'm at where today was because the guilty and meeting camera hipster right and in your family guarantees, and all that's done an excellent job on it are sure. Now here is a razor and chuck it's time worthy releasing of guilt. You shave you go tee. What can you tell me this night? It's all my fault essentially flag. It's not you! It's it's your belief that right, hey, whose due in the brainwashing, maybe I'm doing a reverse, brainwash twist Dana.

Ok, so check. Come you gonna, denounce you guilty. You can announce your hipster pass in your family. You have to actually see it. This is how you can gain control of your life. Again. I hate my goatee. It's a stupid thing on my face and I dont know why good to begin with, because it's not it's, it's not even a quarter of a beard. I feel like an idiot for having this goatee just stupid music. I listen to and those damn Tattoos, China. I know it's. Ok, ok, sorry! We reach the end of the possibility of salvation and now check. We ve actually entered salvation entered the, building of the self face. Ok, you're broke down, you're, nothing now and now it's time for me to build you back up into what I want you to be, which is a preppy o k, o K, o K, search, shock I want you to say now that you ve come silly abandon your old belief system. Yes,

that you realise that this new belief system being preppy, is the greatest thing on the planet. It's what you meant to deal more Josh. It is what I was meant to do, because being preppy is clearly that the style and fashion sensitive I've always craved yeah. I had no idea and shock because that this is what you're supposed to be really didn't, betray anybody else, right in your old leave system by denouncing your family, because that was wrong all along. Ok. Do you promise? I do promise check. Ok now, here check. I want you to take this argyle sweater, don't put it on a correct and put it on. I want you to draw the arms over his shoulder and I wrote my face on it in the minutes. Ok, I want you to take the costs of the of the the sweater enroll them together. Yes, is it now you have the sweater over his shoulder stand. It won't fall off because the

The sleeves are attached now return to picking preppy. Are you trying to send me back in time to nineteen? Eighty four took him. I'm in control of eggs are an isolated from months. You don't you you just grateful. I have in our gas for I am thank you for the sweater. It warms my chest or rights a shock. Are you consciously choosing this new belief system precedent? I do choose preppy them. Are you prepared to eat an alligator? I am prepared even alligator. You want penny loafers more than you ever wanted anything in your life with pennies in them. We'll get you pennies later, but first see what these penniless. I want the penny loafers. Shock you re born. You are now a preppy. I have broken down from a hip, sir, and rebuilt you into a preppy and you're better off. Because of how what am I can t go near, you look and Chuck faces all fat. Let's get em, we will overcome it a little bit sure, but we gotta get eaten first nice little bit of rock, So it makes sense to me when you look at the steps you break someone down, and then you offer

a grain of bread. You know a morsel and then he gained their trust in any rebuild them. And when you look at these cult, and not let the prisoner of war in this case, but even either the carts and some people that maybe involved they may be too. That breakdown stage you know already yet I went to actually hate this. This is like, if I can cut parts of my,

out? I would cut this memory out what you do. I went to a weekend, long new age convention dude. It was ruffles walking around dislike, you can buy in the energy saving and it wasn't that it wasn't like I just scoffed at their beliefs, or you know the people who are peddling these police. I just thought it was said that these people are walking around looking for anything new attach themselves, you anything they could define themselves with. It were completely abandoning any thought of creating their own identity right. They had to tat you do something else in its it clearly, its not just new age people sure you can make the case that its anybody he uses something as across China, whether it's you know, church or whatever, right arm, but dear this. This one particularly stuck out my head, this new age,

convention so apparently in check. This is why I could never actually brainwash you. It works better and some people than on others right people have a weak sense of identity, which you definitely do not if you have a tendency to shut to be guilty as or feel guilty to die. You Know- and I absolutely in black and white thinking, which and self doubt and soft out there you ve gotten into those- did no one could bring watch me. You gotta thick skull not you not anyone here what I dont razor. I definitely tend towards guilt. Slasher face how committed violence near you, Chuck suggested get the agent they can't study brainwashing. Clearly that can actually. Perform this in a laboratory and someone, because that would be wrong right way. Thanks to lift in. We have this. We know how it works and actually soldiers are still to this day trained to yeah how to

I recognise that some brainwashing, which immediately takes away most of the power of the brain washer and also how to the tax themselves from the situation. Yeah. I would lose a meditative techniques and things like that. Just me person thousand the korean war. Let's say back then, and I had to occur in chapter yelling at me in probably broke English breaking down out. I mean I guess, when this torture involved is a different story, but I do not brainwashing you with that and he getting right now I wouldn't mind, ran the poorly conjugated verbs and things like that. Yet. Well, that's what one of the techniques to avoid it is. They teach you to focus on the uncertain details and things like that or details of home, and I do not buy and all the stuff yet and they said people who who believe in a higher power apparent yeah much harder to brainwash, which strikes me as I ride noticing, hey Chuck, are you

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Yet so I've got another thing for you. You ready money meant aside no idea. Another word for brainwashing. I was interested in. That was the route, their meant its many fresh aside and its added, I guess, mental mentality. It's the breakdown of the persons, identity or belief system which is lodged happily in this little campground in your brain right and also the aside part. You knows: murder freight brainwashing. You took a lot out of me Chuck did it I'm sorry, you look like you your whipped like her, you look like you're, whipped like Lee Boyd mother with here. While this couple, a famous incidences of brainwashing, one was Patty Hearst

in the seventies, when she was the famous first family was kidnapped by the Symphonies Liberation Army yeah. She claimed to be brainwash when she was robbing banks and that you set in her defence, she actually was convicted. She was in seventy six, yet her sense, commuted by Carter, shoes pardon by Jimmy Carter and seventy nine and then cast by John Waters in many films. Yet it's right yeah she's of animals. I forgot about that. You know who one of her greatest proponents was his at John Wayne really and actually that's one of the reasons why her sentence was commuted. Bye, bye, Carter's, King John Wayne with such a vocal Advocate real on her behalf and because of the Jonestown tragedy. After that happen, people like our brainwashing, really does exist over the course of always

skeptical over my name, gambling John Wayne named after giant, do names Charles W right when I always figured you named after weighing coin the flaming wealthier now were that time, We are well let's talk about Lee Boyd mother, yes, he famously is your member was a part of the young, the sniper Cyprus shootings that happened in two thousand to two thousand in d c and he was just a young kid and Antigua when he was what the way by I'm John our Mohammed, and he was brainwashed, really says what his attorneys speculate. They didn't get him off even get. I lied in prison without the possibility of parole. Yes, as far as the courts are concerned, its little dubious it is

and it was the whole there of course of persuasion. I was talking about earlier, yet the idea that brainwashing can work without violence or the threat of violent right. It then all kind of went away and ninety ninety, in a case, called usb fishermen. This year there was a guy who's being convicted of male fraud, and he entered insanity plea saying that he had been brainwashed by the tricky Scientology and it didn't work, and that was pretty much the end of the idea of coercive persuasion. Interesting we're gonna, get subtle, asking us now to do on Scientology again. Do you know? I'm not doing it had now. No get away for anonymous to break them down a little more before we said. Button bright throughout in the crews will show that our door baseball bat there's no telling what would happen, Well, that's it! That's actually, less time. Let me mention somehow you two yet what Sir

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Gases in the Middle EAST little we can civil get around him eventually and kill only now, I dont generally educate killing, but there is a fascinating concept. The interesting has, like you know what a figure taken out Hitler with no one. Essentially at work in Lawton, so I thought was kind of interesting and he said that it still has one or two cakes, but so does teleportation so to say to you in one or two, maybe a bit I also want to give a shout out about the innovations podcast villain who email and I guess you know very spirited debate over whether not teleportation was a good thing. It is very intelligent, really good debate mouse in the outside the eurozone. That was very well thought out. Answer yes, met him down pretty hard. Now was in good spirit. Those nice agreed So why do you want to engage in a debate with shock or me Not me, I'm not gonna happen.

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