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They then- and we always you, people like telling you that vanity here outside the girl had actually for much. You could be in such communist lacking here like this go to my house to read your transcripts affect employment. Yet this is the China Edition in you wrote the student you yeah, there's no one. It is dug it out from your memory. Banks yeah. It was on the list. I think I just ran across. Randomly out like oh yeah, the sun, pretty interesting yeah. I think so too. So one of the things they interested me was. I did it. I get to do you like some historical research on it, initially very familiar with the sino russian conflicts the borders, starting in the mid seventeenth century, the Roman off czar.

Versus the man you and later Mean dynasties, I'm more familiar now than I ever have been before my life. Yet despite that way so, but it did surprise me, I just kind of thought. I don't know I didn't know much about commie heart call me right yeah yeah. I mean that's what I want to talk to an apparently I did at some point, but now with a sort of research and turns out those guys didn't like each other so much here, and it actually dig active sixteen hundreds for sure where China apparently didn't trade outside of China, and I didn't have any diplomats, the emperor control, all trade with with other countries, and it was through a system of tribute where, like you, give the emperor the best stuff you got near he'll see what he wants to give you back and the Russians in like that very much, so they just kind of where little more chancellor Hortense, not the best of neighbours but then yeah

Were too when Russia starts taking over Eurasia in China follows deleting, and rather right, thank you and in China Follow suit. Ninety four I was MAO Zedong Communist Revolution thing yet. Basically, this whole area was red and that's how we were taught to view it right, yeah I'll read, so it's all the same, but that's does very much over simplification of the geopolitics of that area. Yeah, like he said, calmly, heart commie, that's kind of what I always thought was that they were neighbors. They were politically aligned in the broadest sense, so they what what issues, what they have rights but, as usual puts like Nancy Reagan, said kill. All the com is like a sort of mouth. He remember that here today I do Saturday morning proteins as usual, the the beef is in the land

neighbours oftentimes, whether its of Georgia in Tennessee fighting over a river water, real or its Israel and Palestine. There are a lot of neighbours that say now that that stuff is ours, not yours, and that seems like to be the the heart of the beef between China and Russia. So I think that the the border disputes were actually a symptom of a law sure thing which was which was now Chairman MAO used to publicly deride the Soviets as review honest that they'd abandon the roots of rebel

generic communism telling anyone hastily sellouts interested, yet any use to publicly say the stuff about the Russians would be like we're sick, email ear. You you talk too much trash shut up and he would talk more trash, like he criticised Khrushchev for backing down from the cuban missile crisis, their stuff that really like poking Romola church and the Soviet in retaliation, withdrew all military and economic support, and then they would called all like the scientists, they were of their working on joint projects and the scientists are left with blueprints, do whatever they were working on yeah, even if it was chinese technology. So there a lot of attention that seem to erupt in the border disputes rather than was over the border, this accident enemy sure. So what we, when we say, rot, we mean erupt as with guns,

are you for real end? In the spring of nineteen? Sixty nine, some bad stuff went down and March, specifically those an attack on a patrol boat Watson over the river that use you. Sorry. River nets in the EU, order of China, of course, and twenty four Soviets were left dead and stuck out real after that you're the Soviet through, like o k yeah, so they rolled into the area with tanks. These missiles aircraft and took out like eight hundred chinese retaliation that same year, yes only losing about sixty of their own, which is a big victory, and so they said you see that there's more were that came from If you don't mind your piece accuse here- and there are saying this to using the New York times- is this like international mouthpiece? Basically,

threatening one another year through the international press. China said what appeasing cues, we don't have those letters, but while they have to Mps well as just a joke, I got So my thinking on says, I understand that this you're coming after us now. I think we should have a plan in place because I don't want you written into but say Beijing

but with all your tanks like you did along the river there. So here's what will do? Sixty percent of the population go red dawn and head for the hills, the other forty percent, here's what will do, let's all get to work, building an underground bunker, but one that can house forty percent of our seven million. The witches thin quite hit that that number will set about two point: eight million sunlight that they made enough for three hundred thousand people does not even close, but it's still a pretty need accomplishment that they created right. Yeah- and this is what would be become known, as you know, France, it is exactly like

Well, I'd like to that area to go ahead. Dixie itching! Ok, I thought those Chinese were Dixie checks and I thought I might have been dishes Chang or something but yeah. I answered you, that's why I was like, unlike endless along, I looked it up and I can find it and this that I don't remember the site, but there's a sailor. I guess users submit and say well wait language. They speak natural. Naturally, here so then it will have like a whole list of like you know, spanish from alone. Here were like spanish spoken by mixed in person. Or scandinavian or whatever right. But if you listen, all there are seen in the same way near Dixie a chain. It's funny and people say Sheng, but in an office here and of people think we probably never look up.

Patients, but we do and Youtube has a lot of now. You know where they will learn that little thing or span and reveal the word then that the polite lady computer, lady, will say it, but I hear the office alike as it's not worth it, to get up the headphones for just that So like your strictly to the laughter Holly over there, the right or a me and you'll this year, random computers all day long with, like Dixie, a king or monarchy manoeuvres in you, does your words can popping up and are ones like sorry, sorry, but I think we all get it ain't, so Dixie a Chang, an ivory. We should say we'll get it through the media, this stuff, but an underground bunker capable of housing through hundred thousand of Beijing's residence was built because Chairman MAO got paranoid, that the soviets we're gonna invade also to a lesser extent, he was worried

american imperialism extending to China? Billy he was worried. The soviets we're going to either invade are launched. Some nuke sign is people is like my dad when we heats saw the day after exactly except you just put my brother and I to work, whereas the chairman put, I think it was three hundred thousand people. I found somewhere, three thousand was how many people get a kid. How now thought the thought of those three a thousand working. Maybe it was more than that. Even now I see where you're talking about their three hundred thousand right there, but you know women, children, men, all kinds of people digging by hand,

We found this really cool blog posts from like two thousand ten by gaining Anthony, Tao or DOW. Depending on I guess I you say it, and he said that I was basically like an urban exploration post. There's a lot of pictures of this abandoned stuff to really cool, but it turns out his relatives including his mother, help build this so that he include some of their recollections in it. Where they're like come like we're, we used to. The school, and then you come home and schooling you'd work like several hours. Building, that's like making bricks are digging or something like that, and so this excavation was being carried out, by the very people who are going to use it as part of this sum, this cultural revolution, this great communist experiment, the Chairman MAO, was carrying out everybody just get to work because the Russians might invade anything.

Famously shown more Dong saying The Tang. I'm not saying this quickly, embruting by which means it means dig deep tunnels store food and prepare for war. He told us population that network kicked off this thing. In nineteen sixty nine really like to get the point. Nineteen sixty nine in eighteen. Seventy nine is when this was going on and will take a little break here until you a little bit about Dixie Chang

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your free trial news are Africa works for ten percent off your first purchase googling square space, make a professional make it beautiful. I think it sounds like I'm saying Chang with an aid, but its Ching Sheng with an e I'm just not good as a southerner, I'm not gonna, pronounced in the E. In words like pen, I say, pen pen like pit, be ironed, Cheng therapy and King ever go right. So did you, you say dicks here also, thank you, say: Dixie I'll, say: J Dixie, Chang, terrible. So what lies underground beneath about twenty six, the sick

feet depending on where you are. There are eighteen miles roughly of tunnels supposedly connects every district in the city for those of us who don't live in the? U S, Liberia, that's thirty kilometers of fiscally underground livings. Fifty two square miles: eighty five kilometers squared and it was the corner under making was is an understatement. There was a big deal right, requiring lots of pants yeah so they use the lie of the old city gates, the city walls as construction material. They are also making their own bricks and they were using like back home or anything like that, their easing shovels in Rome

dirt with bamboo baskets and making their own breaks on site amazing, and they constructed this? This is amazing labyrinth of of not just tunnels, but also they had bomb shelters in the bomb, shelter yeah. They had ventilation shafts there or designed, he found fall out and contamination from nuclear weapons or biological and chemical weapons. I guess they built the great while there is enough, if exact they had recreational stuff too. Like movie theater, I think a roller skating, rink basketball courts here, the barber shop they had restaurants, they had if you want to get down in here. This is going to cause part to me. Is there were about nine, different entrances around the city that were sometimes in parks, sometimes in a private home, sometimes in a shop that you needed a a black light

readers special map on the wall right, it's. I can a neat when you think about it, like that, oh yeah, it is like all the residents of Beijing, her clued into this, this big secret yeah. You know that this is a crucial secret is like you speak easy, except those places come on, didn't color Had that run its course. I? U, like they just open one in Atlanta, right here next door to us where at the city winery, oh really, there's a species, you behind others to speak, easy downstairs. Have you know the code word? You say it at the unmarked door with the co great man. New York did this twenty years ago, quits the covert this week actually voted down. Some Gunderson, their dimona appears shows that this figure will now at the city winery. I'm gonna see blitz entrapper My boys are really the other doing like this, because Dick storyteller tour nice coming

Apparently, if you go there, you see no miss Violet, the sweet, though it U N, finally go down there and make one of em and probably get a drink should leave a victim. That's it! You gotta, be that's right. You gonna go there and skill. Overrun with people. I just wonder if you go to one of these places, especially in Atlanta, could get in New York when their supply and demand We say no turn around go home here, but and at would be, I do come on. I dont know the passwords. Let me in the freakin building right literally say now then they're dead to me fact on them among the Saint Thomas Violet.

Oh yeah, you gonna tell them how things stand on the scarlet. Let me know how they pay their actual, Miss Scarlet us in your text, either me sitting on the sidewalk drinkers drinking and forty. Yes, this it's a substitute he's a drinking occasional forty college back when you thought you were cool. They do so because the busy boys did it get out reckless swell and it's totally hot after about the first like ten minutes, so you have to hold it up around the neck. I was at the usher like champagne, I was never get. The bank's out. Portance amount from my home is well this pretty thoughtful of you. So where were we? species that right now, even further back than that. Well yeah that this than the complex and by the way, Dixie itching literally means underground city like that's it. You don't even capitalism

yeah, it was never use because then the big, a pocket never have well, not only their chairman MAO died, and apparently I didn't know this shortly after he died in the seventies. His cultural revolution seems to dine with him, which was news to me, because I thought that China was communists to the core up until a couple years ago, but apparently there was a real opening of their culture like starting pretty much and slowly in incrementally right after Chairman MAO's death, and so I saw a bunch of different stuff. This is part of the problem with researching China without ever going to China Church because they could dispatches you read from the place,

You know they just very wildly in the accounts here, and this is a good example that I saw somewhere there. They so Chairman MAO died, nineteen. Seventy six. I saw that by night eighty one. They had the place open for tours right and it cost like ten chinese sensor ticket and that you, if Chinese you could not even get at it was only for tourists right, I thought my own article that they boarded up and forgot about it and it wasn't until two thousand that people like started to find their way had the same problem. I was trying to find out, like literally the current state, because I saw that in two thousand eight in preparation for the Olympics. They closed it from relations and it still not open, and I tried to find out the most recent and from I couldn't so I'm going with dont, even myself

not even my own article, the article where they recounted that it was ten chinese sense, a ticket to get in back in nineteen eighty one, I'm thinking is probably right to go back as it has numbers in it, but the seas legitimate. I was take her final break here and will come back and talk a little bit the rat tribe of Beijing. Hey everybody. I want to talk to you about your website that doesn't look good and this hard to program because square space does it better yeah they do square space. Is this amazing magical tool that you can just basically good people? and all of a sudden, you have a website to do whatever you want with you can use it to sell stuff. You can use it to tell your world about all the great thoughts you have and now Skurse based also offers email campaign, so you can take

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So check from one of the first things up and where there is in nineteen, eighty one or two thousand was people start the move into this area illegally and at first I get the impression that there they open up businesses, and there was actually like an official, much like about a one kilometer stretch of Dixie Chang. There was open for tourists like underground Atlanta, yes but then the other, like twenty nine kilometers, were closed off permanently frozen in time Riah. What kind of stuff attracts people like monsieur flight, mysteriously like urban explorers and again go check out Anthony Taos posts last visit to Beijing underground city? It's got some great photos of this abandoned stuff,

but over the years there are people who have you no work their way and the like the other shut off twenty. Kilometers and of reported back that its dislike eerie. A time. Capsule is posters of Chairman MAO on the walls with them slogans like dig the tunnels, deep, accumulate grain oppose hegemony, yet mean pictures of its preening right, Araby and they get this, if you were also like gum, Ronald Reagan had told us all this. When we were kids for the people prepare for war prepare for free, in the kind of unsettling when they keep young your toes her so there's a lot of it. It's like this. Kind of rotting time capsule because again, like you said it was never used, but then plenty of it has been used yet and that's a can even figure out for sure these are definitely parts of that complex. Yet where people are living yes

ok, I didn't know those other. Oh no, alters its birth Boca, its birth, gotcha Iraqis we are talking about, is the rat tribe or the shoe, and its basically about a million people, no exact numbers, but about a million people in Beijing. Moved underground about him. Another twenty one million people who live there, Yan. If, if you talk about it, violation, Berman. Ninety ninety five: there were about nine million people in Beijing. Now there are twenty one million, that's a lot of people and not a very long span of time. So it's expensive Two, I really don't know the like median incomes compared to housing, but article made it seem like the

reason these people are doing. It is because they can afford to live above ground or that there is such a shortage. Like your your choices, this you can live above ground in adorn, like room with six to ten people in this herbs and pay about what you would pay. Own room below ground, which is about fifty to seventy american dollars a month right so Go over six to ten people in a doormat the suburbs, or you want your own cosy little foot by eight foot concrete room underground their lot, percent. I'd rather be underground near and their norm, people they're not. Like its situation, MIKE I'm trying to think of something comparable, but this woman interviewed a lot of these people and at camp from you, I see a southern California, GO trojans forefront Brian Bishop, oh yeah! Congratulations, Sir Brian on

yet the two. So what she found out was that as she suspected these UR computer, programmers and waiters and dresses and barbers n they are literally just me. Migrants that have come there from the countryside to work right and they're, not weirdos they just there like you know this is what I can afford to have a job. Above ground, and this is just what are our choose to live We don't have a lot of options so that those like it, the spectre of How is still around because apparently part of the housing code in China or in Beijing at least

requires that if you are going to build like a building, you have to build something between one, two, three stories of basement or bomb shelter below ground that still the thing yeah. So, in addition to people squatting in Dixie Chang, which does happen, These people are going to the owners of the building and saying? Can I please stay here I'll, give you seventy bucks a month, and even though its illegal. Yet the owners are like you just leave it. Leave it under the trash cannot frightened out from Yale again that using a tiny room right now, because these are Vienna, small as is their communal, toilets and showers. You gotta pay like fifty cents for a shower for five minutes as their right. I'm through that gathers is.

Photographer century yen based in Beijing, and he has a collection called China's rat drive, you look at pictures and done you know. It's not ethic.

Stigma too, at first of all a because its illegal, and I call on the rat rhyme MBA, because you know that they interviewed some of these people and the girls I get. My dad was a son. Now you can't, you can't live down here and he's dead at this. What I can afford I've got a job and that a one live with ten people in a room right and there's no windows. It's dark! Apparently there signs in some of these tunnels. It advise people to go up and get son. I was arrested like their thoughtful sure. I think one of the other reasons to wear their considered, like the rat tribe, is only a lot of cases, their living beneath fairly tony apartment building, sure so the people above ground there's like a huge class difference in this same, like sprout of yeah, of living space in Beijing.

And the people above ground are not in contact with the people below ground. If they do not trust them, there we're the different their poor there from the country air. So they don't. They dont communicate with one another, but they know they're, so the people above gonna very suspicious of the few below ground, yeah fairly, Malta's problem, NEA Casino, underground, Canna, dank so they have to work to keep mould at Bay and don't think we mention that the original plan to with that Chairman MAO is to grow things like mushrooms like things he did need the sun right to grow down there. How fast you get sick of eating mushrooms, if that's all you had to eat. If it was me, it would be one bite of mushroom later they like mushrooms. I can't do it. What if you put soy sauce and man is on it? I mean I could

get down, but it's a texture thing for me is not even the taste what about uncooked raw delegate a bit of a crunch to it I'll, try one yeah child like a white by a mushroom, little salt Lake click, it First pillar sultanate. The ethic of might not like the mushroom you described is that that slimy texture doesn't have that other wash. It offers the area it would get scrub with your tongue, the proper you I wish I could, if I actually have when he met my Pike S, good, ok, pocket, mushrooms. No, you anything Nope, you know o have one other thing So there a long time there are longstanding rumours that they built like secret tunnels in this underground bunker. Dixie Chang that connected to like the peoples

another government buildings. Yet no one knew if it was real or not it till night Eighty nine, when the Tiananmen Square Uprising happen and all of a sudden Ali's. Government troops come out of nowhere. Flooding out of the people's hall, the quell these protesters, like those underground tunnel to really are real. And apparently there's only out of the ninety original entrances. There's only a handful of those left yeah because the the The area where this was built beneath its called kin- men, I believe in kenya- and it's a very famous stretch of like shops in Beijing- and it's been just re created in rebuilt so much especially since, right before the PICS yeah. That's a lot of these old shops are being levelled in their there to go the entrances to the places and the florescent maps. So it is in danger of being lost, but it will still be there for people who go find you. I gotta get the pit,

springing. Ah you I know more about Beijing. Take their word in the search bar has the ports. I can't see what comes up pressure luck, you say said: Priscilla This is about the mining. Episodes has been a bit, but we also get information Oh here it is. I have been listening to your show for about a year now then blissfully enlightened on so many topics currently pursued. My masters degree in economic geology were oh, the unlikely state of Ireland. I have a few primly clarifications on your mining of study. And hard and soft rock mining We entered the difference between the two, whether it comes from the rock or the or the terms

Often hard right mining relates to the hardness of the rock from which the oars being extracted not the or itself to the clerk at good. I think that's what I said. I don't remember actually think I hedged instead, it could be that one without his right ready, either way. So soft, like mining, typically pertains to sedentary rock, where hard rock typically pertains to igneous or metamorphic rocks. Furthermore, just finish your wonderful observant, eyes, ages and giggled a little from your pronunciation of Lois.

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