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Jerry and I can be Rockettes Luke can't know it's true. Which is a shame because he of the games I do actually I've got pretty decent legs. You know at least my calves array, what not eyes there a little. Tree trunks firmer for my taste air there. A bit of like fertility idle thing going on like up toward the hips and all that him ask is the squat. I was not expecting to talk this about your games. Yeah well, I'll talk about my legs all day, long, all its hearing, the shapely Kay, they're, not again, all my weight between my waist and my chin. Ah, I got If you looked at my legs, are my arms he'd be like think I was a hundred sixty pounds. It's late and the rest of becomes along the bus that that step aside,
still the nice little fanny, sir, by knows that sorry listeners in the UK area that mean something different methods. It's just so Ain t a nice then, but all the five year old kids say fanny in the United States. That's right insisted the Brits you're are sick. But this isn't about our games. This is about and troop a legendary dance, troop, about a legendary is a dance she can possibly be are the Rockets. I think so. I just said that sentence like Yoda. Can you do the voice? Oh, no, not even going to try, is totally. Surprise me digging into the research on this took to learn that legendary rockettes of New York, city and radio city musical or not from New York City know they're, not where they from Chuck did. You know
I had no idea here so shout out to Saint Louis yeah, they they were founded in the nineteen twenty nineteen, twenty five to be exact in Saint Louis Missouri as the Rockets, then the Saint Louis Rockets, which I think they were trying to be a basketball maybe consumers rockets, sure yet the choreographer name, Russell Markert, which has a couple say market, but that is an hour. He found them, like you, said, a nineteen twenty five and he He was inspired by a british dance. Troop named the tiller girls, which was founded in the eighteen. Ninety four by John Tiller and What kind of a similar idea he saw these tiller girls news like I want a high kickin glamorous a danced. But my own going to rip off. He did
so John Tillers is widely acknowledging as the the creator of worth called proceed. And dance is where you have a bunch of dancers, who were really highly trained, really athletic and really precise in their movements that can move in such unison that you take a number like a number of different answers and they basically become one thing that they can do things that An individual dancer can't do that's precision. Dance take John Tiller, literally invented it with, I think, for ten year old girls in the eighteen nineties and dumb, he came up with some further refinements to it like, when put your hand around the wastes of the people on either side of you. It kind of law to the unity of the whole thing. In Russell me Margaret saw this and was like this is amazing. If I can get some among
can girls with longer legs, to kick higher ITALY everybody socks off. That's a quote by the way here, there's a there's somethin to that that synchronicity of for me for movement, an sound the GIS Knox me out. Every time go and see her acquire. What's like hundred people singing together and high kicking or a symphony just them not only the sound, but the movement when you watch a symphony, that's a big part of it for me, for get a coral symphony like I'm on the floor weeping, if you take me to a coral symphony, but there's something about that precision of of all the people together, just really like I don't know what it is about. It I mean it's, it's a like to voice or collective movement, but
precision that really just gets gets me every time for short. Well, that's what the Rockets are known for its there. Their trade is precision dance. There is, does. It gets with it. Although the tell her. Girls are definitely still around. They still have Christmas specials themselves, they're doing their thing for sure. So it's not too sir and off hand thing to say the Rockets are as good as it comes as good as they come in and precision dances. The tiller girls were probably say. I would dispute that statement that they would say it with the british exit were hit. I just stay, so they were not install back. Then the original height requirements were between I have two and five six and a half. And now they went wilting you're tallest answer. Them our shortest answer, because I guess it's just I don't know, I'm not sure why they did that, but now between five six and
ten and a half and it is not because they want to exclude people, or any or discriminate against people who are too taller. They feel too short. But so they can just all look an optical illusion, so they can look the same height because they take that fight, foot ten and a half inch dancer. Although they don't have to be that all, but they take you over there. Tallest answer is but her right in the middle and then staggered out from there and in the end everyone looks it's weird. Everyone looks to be the same height, even though they are not Saint how's works exist. I saw so many different places that I'm convinced that it does work. I just don't get the the illusion of how it works. Well, I think over four inches thirty six women. Just so minute of differences, as you scale down that it would take, I guess and
extraordinary human to be like that woman, is an inch and have taller than the one five people away from her right now I gotcha. May I guess it's so you just a normal person, is what I'm saying You should feel good about that. I fall for that optical illusion every time here everybody should so they started with the Missouri Rockets, with just sixteen women and, like I said now, they have thirty six and they Debian in Louis but then went to New York to perform rain or shine on Broadway and then, is where a man Sl Roxy. That was his nickname. Rosa fell, which is an interesting name. That's he saw them and said: hey I gotta get out on this. This is amazing yeah, so Russell make market took the idea, from John Tiller and actually wrath of full said: hey
I want in on this sham. So I'm an egg grab a few of these dancers from Saint Louis, and bring him over to New York City and we're gonna tell start dancing. There. Ok- and I know just the place There's this new venue, that's opening up in nineteen thirty, two and called the radio City Music Hall, and I'm going to make sure that these days there are able to perform. Call them the Roxy. Yet about that is, it is nicknamed right and Markert said, that's fine, just make sure you pay me some money for sure and he he did get paid in paid until nineteen. Seventy one heap it's hard to believe, but he worked for the ride. Ads or with the Rockets from nineteen thirty three to and twenty two- I guess either previous in ST all the way until one, seventy one yet really amazing, It is pretty amazing, that's a pretty long career, so
They opened radio sitting Music hall. I think there, part of the seventeen Group ACT and that was like such a hot ticket, something like a hundred thousand people wanted in, but there it's a sixty two hundred seat theatre, which I think is still remains- the nations largest indoor venue, which is really saying something, because I guess it's just be a like a theatrical You could obviously the largest indoor venue sports venues: have it beat by quite a bit. Oh theatrical, ok, I gotcha it has to be to be either movie or theatrical or something, but it's the largest venue of its kind in the United States. From what I see you, for many years the day, specials every now and then, but it was sorted, a movie theater yeah, here's the thing
you could go see the movies. I think especially it started to take off in the fifties like before they would have premiers for movies and the Rockettes would like perform at the premier, then at some point I don't know if it was Russell Markers, Roxy wrath, a feller. Somebody said why why just this, once have I ray time. Somebody comes to see a movie at the rate, your city, music hall, we'll have the rock with Rockets perform before the move, can you imagine that how they will that would be, it would be pretty cool. I mean it like that. Seeing that and then be like okay now for the movie, that's dead, you speak, it be a different experience for sure. But it was rough on the Rockets, because not all the movies were successes, so, they would change the rocket show for each movie so If a movie came along and it was just a terrible flop, this the whole regretfully teen that they learned would be out the door in two days and all of a sudden they had to learn a new one. Quick, because
the new movie coming in to replace that one out, so they did a different routine for each film. Yes, interesting, yeah sometimes they would have to learn it in a matter of hours like around midnight, beat before the next day. Performances. I wonder if it was tied to the film, sometimes, I think of it all the time. I think it is. I think it was its ends in some cases, but I think more than anything they would change the routine just because the people coming to see different film would want to see a different routine. Ok, I gotcha you. Let me sense, so in the nineteen forty. If they were one of the first groups to sign up for the added service organization and go and performed for the troops and in the nineteen fifties, is when things really started to come take their toll like they were performing, sometimes the five times a day and so they said they built a dormitory there, which you know they could live in. I would think there were required to
but it really was to accommodate the fact that they were work in almost around the clock. Rather, does learning these new routines, like you said, and then forming up the five times a day, really gruelling stuff it was based, the prototype for Google. Yes, it's just so you're employees didn't have to leave interesting You don't have saying, discuss sleep in your pod, so the Rockets their fame started to grow pretty pretty quickly and end they. They made like a few steps if you're fired the pine along the way that kind of cemented them as a as much piece of America as Apple Pie, baseball or moms, or what have you so the fifties we're so big through the the Rockets to because they joined the Macy's thanks.
Giving they prayed in nineteen fifty seven. I think that that was the big. The big move yeah because they went from just a group that you either had to go to New York or go off to war, to see two other my living room. Now these girls are kicking television and I'm just love in life. Our aim take a break to nineteen fifty's, good times her head and then times come in the seventies, because New York City in the seventies and everything was kind of awful, then so we'll be back, right after this gas. New
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Kay stamps that can never go to the post office again ok, hate before we get started go on to say we put on a pretty good stage. Show ourselves. We ve been unto and we ve got some common up. You know plug plug the others, no high kicking involved there could be people demanded it. I would be willing to do little high kicking for fellow. Are we talking about some shows yells to their or quick all right so where we're going out west for annual sojourn in January, where we go to Seattle. We gotTa Portland, and there we end up its
so sketch best like we always do in MID January yeah and I've got a ended. The world live show on Friday, sketch fist and you have a movie crush on Saturday, sketch first right, yeah, I'm doing a matinees show at one o clock on Saturday January nineteenth with busy Philips is my guest nice to me? shows Friday. The eighteenth cafe do, nor did I am my own guest, the seller, and then I have another one in Brooklyn on the twenty. Fourth, at the Bell House, too, Our thoughts did needed, know how it got postponed. Two January, twenty, fourth, great yes, So you have a MR there's still time for you to come. Fantastic, so that is our little plug. However, that year, and of course our or big stuff you should know shows is at the Castro on one is that Thursday night. That is Thursday. The seventeenth? Yet the country is it the more in Seattle Revolution Hall in Portland at the
Castro in San Francisco check out her individual little shows are cute little individual shows and there's plenty of information on S. Wife S, K Live Dotcom, that's right! So now the seventies New Yorkers. This is suffering Yes, crazy. When you look at pictures of New York City in the seventies, an early eighties, even hard to believe how bad things were there. He, I was pretty rough Actually, it's funny like you, can think Rudolf, Giuliani, Fer, a guess, cleaning up the town, if you want to call it that ok, Have you ever her, then? What do you think rid of Giuliani for cleaning up the town. Sure, ok, good for him, So am I saw him in the park, Wendy, You did rosy do in talking to a duck. Now he was he doing like a photo up but add friends from Another country, even I think, an.
I said Higgins US as of New York over there. They are like that's nice. I went kind of a big Hilda just walk around and see the mayor of New York They say that ever tat. I think there are struggling. Actually, I was miles giant impressive. Those good then yeah, that's pretty that's a great story chuck near its fine, but for they didn't understand fully that the mayor of New York City is is, it's quite a big deal to see him just out and about in the city. I have a similar story. I was watching one of the first few see my television and order on my television. One day- and there was the city, really ready Giuliani interests but I knew was a big big deal, I got another story: did you know and they Michael Bay, film, Pearl Harbor? That they come in,
I'm Maclean Character from die hard and one hospital seen how just digitally that's an anachronism manner that doesn't make any sense. To make any sense to they really do that yet there, if you can look it up Pearl Harbor, John Mc Lane and there's like screenshots of of John Briefly for and his white the background. Briefly for a blip in the background of one of the hospital scenes in pearl. So weird there's a nude woman in the window of one of the buildings at the rescuers fly by advocating the Disney movie from the sixty see how these weird movie. Easter eggs? bored editors, I guess we heard it editors. It's a nineteen seventies, None of this has happened yet that we're talking about the rescuers the rescuers there, but there was no die hard. There was no Pearl harbor movie right, except or to but no bad Pearl Harbor movie
no Rudy Giuliani, he was alive but he was not in the mayor of New York City in the nineteen seventies, not as far as we know, who was it that was at catch, Who is the eighties. I think I was a maybe late seventies. I will that straightened out. Ok, New York City is going down the toilet, including believe it or not, ready of the great radio city musical. Much like our own legendary Fox in Atlanta. Was facing shut down, and demolition potentially. Yet there was a rough transition from some of those old movie palaces after people stopped while going a movie palaces and moved out to the suburbs. The lot of those beautiful places were left out in the cold, and some of them didn't fall out lot of an didn't, make up its own room almost make it like. You said the fox and Ready city and apparently was going to be turned into a parking lot,
Belushi himself got under the news desk at Serna, live and was railing against the demise of radio City Music Hall and the Rockettes too head said: hey, hey, hey, hey This is our home. This is an iconic place. Let us help. Like go raise awareness and funds to to save this place, and they did. There is successful. They got it put on the National historic register of historic places. And it has a landmark designation, not just the building, five hundred buildings in New York, with the landmark designation, but only a hundred and ten interiors have the Lamb designation and read? city music halls, one of them, which means that its interior is so amazingly beautiful. That is protected and mark in the United States, given I been in there evening then the Carnegie Hall, but never radio city. It's on the list sure but it's interesting as they they tried it. Their whole deal was. Is they wanted exclusive movie?
bookings like they, they were they were to be the only theatre in town that would be showing a particular movie so that that limits their their pool immediately, and then they really prefer G rated movies they had really strict screening criteria so that just it narrowed down there. There movie pool so small that they would go weeks and weeks at a time where nothing happened there. Yes, they would just shut out yet again. Remember like the rockets are a dance troop that you would see before you saw a movie. So if I movies, they're, not showing the Rockets and at this time in the seventies the ROC had said. Okay, more were bar talent is being wasted here, at least, let us go take the show on the road, while you guys are sitting around waiting for another movie come along and they actually, They gain that right because their union dancers wishes We'll get into a little more later, but they may to get the right to take the show on the road and they re,
so to make a name for themselves in the seventies is Lake Tahoe in Vegas Church apparently made a huge fan out Sammy Davis Jr, who would come see they show like night after night when they, when they play in Vegas or Tahoe or whatever he's just fascinated by the rocket love that for sure Little Sammy. Great guy. We should do is show him Apparently he also oh yeah, I'm down that. He also surprised them on stage by joining them on stage for a dance number which apparently, he knew because he'd seen the show so many times while which that's a pretty soon, anything to do in LAS Vegas. I kick Doesn't it is his kicks weren't, so high run out on stage unbidden uninvited he's a little guy. He was. Is that the littlest rocket- I imagine you are very- was too so they're doing their show on the road here and there they're making into meat radio city is struggling, even though it was designated as a landmark. The eighties were not super kind to radio city either.
They very famously appeared at the half. I'm showed the Superbowl and eighty eight they're trying to change with the times other dance in it the nineties at different places and they're always doing their Christmas. Steel through All this after you know they started doing that and what was at fifty seven thirty two they did the Macy's Braden thirty two o I'm sorry, I thought you meant the Christmas spectacular at prayed with the Thanksgiving parade was fifty seven. Yes, they got their their holiday stuff there Easter specials Christmas specials their dancing it inauguration were George W Bush. In fact: the came under under five for dancing it trumps inauguration, while they dance troop. Almost was split asunder over whether they wanted to do that or not as a big deal. It was a huge deal actually and they they had revived the Easter extravaganza. They read aimed at the New York Spring Spectacular the year before, and this
They took a year off and I don't think they ever went back to it because of all the controversy over two thousand sixteen in the inauguration. It was just listening an unusual experience for the Rockettes like there they're, just like America, personified and further debate. Huge national conversation about you know them forming at an inauguration. It was a big deal for the organization for sure, especially for the dancers who were like career rockets yeah exactly. Should we talk a little bit about just being a rocket? I think should meant because we ve done it. We have a mean. There is a brief time, although we face entered Dinah low hand, territory now, who's Lindsey low hands mom. She very famously lied about being a rocket. Really, yes He said that her. She has a background in show business to Sir kept for a while in some journalist went in
Doug around and they found out that is definitely they had no record whatsoever of her under any name Maidenhair married as ever being Iraq. It's always amazing to me. When every. Is provable public, lies or told by people like that. Like politicians who say that you know like they fought in a war when they didn't like that's happened, I don't know why people say things like that. It's like now weak China can go check that really easily yeah but even without, like you know, the czech ability of it to to just like you know, lie in an interval shirk puff yourself up. I guess his ear, like I nurse in psychology of. Is it just because you don't feel like you're, given the interviewer enough of what they need, or do they did with? Did they lay some sort of trick lead you into it or I don't descended either people start to believe these lies like if you make it story about yourself, and you too,
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We were gonna. Tell anyone about our experiences rockets. Because we're dynamo him so here's the thing if you're right and you ve been doing this for ten years a pretty long lived rocket, although I think I see one one. Who is a rocket, and if- talking weird all of a sudden. It's because I am stalling everybody looking for her name and I'm not finding it, but I think it's Lindsey how positive or names lazy how I believe she has been a rocket for fourteen years. That's a long time, it's a very long time to be Iraq because, as you will soon learn being around, it is extremely difficult and very demanding and in to show business and out their widely seen as probably some of the best professional dancer, in the business and Sir some of the most discipline, professional dancers in the business as well, but
really hard to do for a really long time. One of the main reasons why, because their work schedule is extremely gruelling, but but with and see how she would make the same amount of money that a first year Roy, cat would make, because all paid the same. They were the same hours, they do the same work. Some of them are kind of promoted as like the faces of the Rockettes them. The company think Madison Square company that owns radio City he's a call and the Rockets really protective of their image. Like they, they aren't freedom. And you talked a meteor wherever there's some that are kind of like you and you and you year the rocket to the face the Rockets but other now everyone does the same amount of work, same amount of ours, same amount of pay, and one of the reasons they do. That is because the point of the Rockets is not. Have standouts it's not like other dance troops or other Broadway troops, or anything like that. There is not meant to be stars, they
kids are the star their meant to be one a single unit that moves and works and lives together. Yeah their union. I so they make their They make most of their money over the holiday season, so they walk out after a couple of months with about forty grand in their pocket, which isn't bad you know for a couple of months work, but it like you, said, super gruelling. If you to become a rocket year, required to, but there is something called the rock at summer: intensive dance programme where you can go, you can in raw. You can spend six hours a day, learning burning everything over the course of about a week, The choreography, headache how get in that shape stay in their shape, how to prevent injuries and sort of the business of it all- and like you said you don't have to do that, but they do place a lot of Rockettes. If you
that intensive dance programme while saw, I saw out of a thousand that have taken it, sixty have gone under actually become Rockettes yeah cause it's very tough to become a rocket to Vienna. I mean I get the feeling that that has to deal with the programme, then just how, It is due to make that cut right right exactly so not only do you have to be fair enough to kick those famous kicks up to twelve hundred times a day through all these shows, there's one there's one clothing change: you gotta, do all these costume changes, but there's one particular in between. The parade of the wooden soldiers in New York at Christmas, that you have you be completely changed out in seventy eight seconds. Seventy eight seconds these costumes, are not like super easy to take off the hook, soldier, one in particular pretty complex. So seventy eight seconds probably goes by extremely fast. Yet
there's, there's thirty six Rockettes total performing onstage, but There are eighty certified Rockettes total overall, you have a morning cast an afternoon cast and then, for each of those shows. You have four swings or extras per so like if someone's like, I twisted my uncle. I can't do this. For women waiting in the wings for each of those. Morning and afternoon shows yeah so that It is those is their working six days a week are the Rockettes are performing six days a week. If you have to cast rather than work, all work both cast six days a week, Phil Phil, Turning to give one another a day off and they'll do that on days, sometimes, where there's four performances in a day which, means that if you are a rocket, there are phase and I've seen also sometimes Sir backed back days, were you you're, doing for performances
good day for ninety minute performances and that those twelve hundred kicks that you mentioned Chuck comes in. Some of those shows have three hundred high cakes and we're talking. I level kicks and if you do for I'm in a day you ve just kicked eye level twelve hundred times in a day and from some of the articles. I've read that is. About as much as your body can possibly take, yeah I mean they all in the interviews. I saw those at great New York Times article where they really sorted dive into a day in the life of a row. Get during the holiday season, and they all kind of earth are like there's no way to prepare your body for this, like we are in the best shape that a dancer can be in and it just destroys us to the point where, like One of them said that just taking their stockings off at the end of the night is laborious Ryan you know what they're commute depending on where they come from some or are awake and
their commuting or or rehearsing or performing twenty hours. In a day, just gruelling growing stuff but across the board. They also all say that that the only job that they want it is agreed sorority and sisterhood, and an thousand to be one of these, over the years three thousand it's who have made that cut the like it's, really not worth it in the end. Yet another I mean at least the ones who are allowed to speak to the media, certainly have a lot of positive things to say about being a rocket and like how familiar it is and how just hanging out with their best friends in is a great gig for a dancer Firstly, as one of these articles pointed out a few dancer who doesn't sing that's a rare thing to get that kind of a gig. I think it's one of the few, four jazz untapped tap were singing snowball, but also not
like a good gig, a good paying gig to like forty grand for a couple of months of performances a lot of the rockets. They don't live in New York. They'll come live in New York during the season when they need to rehearse and then do the christian spectacular. Then they go home so they might live in New York from September. To the the December and then they go back home wherever home is forty. And probably goes a lot further than it doesn't New York unless they live in San Francisco, in which cases probably goes even faster. But it's a really good, paying gig. They also benefits because their union in their contract workers there have year round benefits the other and forty nine so they can go work as politely structures as nutritionists as all the other after they do during the year, normally come back in the there a rocket, but what I thought was pretty cool was even, if you say a tenth year rocket,
you get invited back like once you're rocket you're in is a roquette, but you, you'll have to edition in April, like everybody out here, so you're edition in April, and if you make the cut you. Start to go, get in shape and then rehearsals, I think, start in September and were are six hours six days a week for base. The six weeks leading up to their performances, which run for MID November till I saw this thirty first, I also tickets available for January first show so I don't know if they extended it or not yet it's funny like forty grand sounds like a lot of money over a couple of months and it is but when, break it down per show. It get breaks down to about a hundred thirty five bucks, a show yeah, which the sun doesn't seem like great money. No, but this But you make as a standard CAS member Fer, a Broadway Union, dancer
or actor variety performer, I think, is the in their their part of so no, it doesn't seem like much but Another reason why the rocket gig is so good. You get over time on those days when you do a third and fourth show you getting for time pay and theirs pull shows in in on multiple day. So you can, I mean, another actor at a different gig King, the same days of same period would not make that amount. Money that forty grand as they wouldn't have any over time. They wouldn't have that many shows the end, and I think anyone like dry of going to Broadway to become rich and wealthy like part of the allure Broadway as year with the best of the best, and you can see, I danced or I saying your I acted on Broadway with Brian Crowley. I saw him on Broadway yeah. I saw my I'm on Broadway area, an accomplice,
the audience was the accomplice that was the big twist. You just ruin their. Wasn't good. It was a great. It was one of the greatest stage performances I've ever seen. I saw Lenny I've, onstage derricks inhabit yeah. This is before I knew him is anything but Lenny. I was like at eight this is a while ago. Citizen, something new on Broadway. Now I think didn't network right man. I want to see that sure that's good. I saw her there was described, is get this Are you ready for this boy? Electrifying we cannot draw we showed described as electrifying. His performance was electrifying. Don't think I've ever heard that word used the iter So another thing, though, about the Rockettes, even though they do make most of their money over this couple months, and then they have the rest of the year to
in a the cases, be like a dance instructor or some. Like that or fitness instructor they the increasingly, are working more more and more more months out of the year, whether its as ambassadors for the Rockettes, or doing like video things for Youtube. They are increasingly called on to do other other things, yeah lab That is so. I is the woman who came along as the league choreographer turned director and really kind of punch, punch stood up even further, her name is Linda, hamper men and she took over. I think in, like the mid two thousands maybe two thousand eight, and she kind of brought like this whole new, not new. It's a whole new think, she's kind of she made it a little more pro feminist. A little more like you go go kind of vibe to the Rockets than they had before. They were seen
you know rehearsing in the rehearsal gear, rather than like full costume and this kind of like the they intend. I get was to make them more people. Yet is yes, because one of the great criticisms of the Rockettes is that their nothing but of teeth eggs just a bunch of women yeah out their kicking like forming one large goober woman. Who can kick legs amazingly high and has led to the widest gleaming his teeth ever you ve ever seen, and at that really kind of this objective. Nation, of women like to like by definition, and Linda Harriman, like really kind of took that in tried to unravel it quite a bit, and she also the show, so we a little bit about the show. It's a two depending on who you are it's either like just below traditional Americana, Kitty offensively sexist.
Knows, but I think the first tour the predominant views of it. It's kitty and sweet or its Lena endearingly americana, and Linda Haber, men kind of took their and tried to shut up into the twenty first century, a little more in there's like way more visual effects, and there were before there the three key component I think to this year. Showered recent years shows, like the hold the whole thing is like a girl once a video game and her mom is and showing her. You know why that's not so good Is it a violent video game? There's a dead lot of kind of updating. That's that the Rockets have undergone in the law. A few years, and that was largely from what I understand Linda Haber means doing. I think she was the one that digitally inserted John Mc Lane from die hard. Let's hope soon in the New York Folly Section now, I'm glad I updated things, because this is a prime case of like
a beloved american tradition that could use some refreshing You can highlight them as humans and individuals, and still you know You know, and you can still have that desired effect of a and precision that their known foreigner right exactly They don't have to be just like faceless and nameless. You know now, read a few like feminist critique of the rock They seem to have been kind of outdated, like I really Billy Glinda Haber men. Good job like tat. Yes, she she kind of took those those critiques. In change them and a lot of ways, that's great Where did the other criticisms? Is there wasn't until nineteen eighty five that the Rockets have their first woman of color as a member of the their cast of their troop area. The women of color was a japanese woman named sets ago Marta, how she and a night, maybe five she joined
one. Eighty eight, the first african american woman joined her name was Jennifer Jones, and the reasoning. Apparently it was Mark Markert who like no add it from, I saw it had nothing to do with racism, it was the idea that it was going to disappear the visual unity right of the dance line if there were you, know differing skin colours in the stance line, Apparently he was so not so about it like you get in trouble. If you had a suntan like that's how little we wanted. Everything to be a listen in unison, well, regardless, where in the twenty first century in the late twentieth century that that sentiment in holed up in Vegas shortly after he died, is when they started adding women of color more to the Rockettes troop yeah, and then saw people of color in that same dance line, and it still
some and synchronized, and regulate exactly and from his grave. He went. He stood a rolling around. In goodness, so you haven't seen a Rockets Christmas spectacular. Her we owe you may live in person. Yet I have not. I have not either: are we going to go now? we should. I know if any Rockettes listen to the show. Yeah that will make needs, super super happy I would for me is the only other small did better have, as they have microphones in their heels of their shoes. I thought I'd to they used to they used to play recordings of their tapping right now I enough That does not surprise me. They figured out how to do the actual like broadcast the actual tampering, so we're gonna go one day, Chuck we're gonna, go see the Christmas spectacular gonna go see the live nativity with a real. Camel and donkeys and the wooden toy soldier March, where they fall down
like a domino in slow motion. It's pretty amazing stuff and if you want to know more about the Rockets, then go to radio city is a find them there about. That sounds great well since I said that, then it's time for listener man I'm going this, I was a search and rescue. Victim volunteer, this guy, his dad summarize the beginning of it has come along, but His dad lives in the upper peninsula of Michigan and as a member of the locals as they are team and so they were like. We need someone to play the victim here and he was like I'll do it this guy said so, what happened he said off into the heavily wooded area. Did he said I did everything I could to think of to a full, the dog in the hammer. I ran in circles
I cover my own trail hike through off my hat. I even found some garbage and rolled around in it. I sent wow once I done everything I could think of to try and fool the dog and handler, tracking me, I found a nice comfy spot up in a bush on a hill where I could just watch the dog in the hammer, try and track me on a pretty good job, but once I called the handler- and let him know I was in position- was all over very quickly. I sat back and everyone was shocked to watch the dog basically retrace my trail step by step every move I made, although circles into that finding my hat even that I've run off even getting into that pile of garbage that basically rolled her fool for Ryan up there. It is just basically A fool for Ryan up there in the mountains, so he said. Needless to say, the dog found me in short order, I gave him lots of praise for the great job he had done. Thankfully, I was never in any real danger so
experience with a lot more enjoyable. Obviously when people are in real need of assert search and rescue dog Thanks for the great episodes guys, we company on overnight shifts make it I'll go by quicker. So if you read this on the show can I get a shot out to my girlfriend Terran issued. Be thrilled to hear her name get called out on the show pictures happen. Yet that is from Ryan. I like that. The gusto that Ryan put into trying to fool the stag rolling garbage, and I equally love that this dog was like whatever So thank you. I think you Terran for listening and thank you, the SAR dog sure scruffy. You wanna get in touch with this, you can go to our websites that you should know dot com. You can find Oliver social links there. I've website called the Josh clerk Wade. I can't send an email to chuck Jerry and me at stuff. Podcast has the floor.
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