You can thank your parents and grandparents for the longstanding ban against dining shirtless and shoeless. While the concept was around, it mushroomed when hippies came along.
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I don't want to say the word now. What is it about when
enter and establishment in there.
Be words printed on poster board that say no short, no shoes, no service, yeah, yeah written by vent
Apparently you get out of my busy area.
On the other hand, it might say, shirt and shoes are required, but the upshot is this, and do you know what inspired me to to pick this one? I had no idea. This is the exception that
If the rule right, so that the exception is that there are places where you can't enter without shoes or a shirt they won't. You deserve as meaning that in implies other places. You could be without a shirt or shoes at any rate, ipso facto. There is a strange backs,
for he too the no shirt, no she's no service placard, and that is that a pair
it was created, not okay, so I wasn't created, but it exploded in popularity in response to dirty hippies in the late
she's, an early seventies here- and I love the research behind this, because there are two things that work in this house too, for ex article dave got in touch with the well eating it touch with the first one, but there's something called the society: a barefoot living, no surprise society for burial.
living, I would say of yeah they're, not even just of there actually are actively trying to promote. It is like we're of it that you should before it. As you
their blog, and he found that these placards, they say, didn't exist until nineteen seventeen and that's when they really sorted took off because of hippies, so Dave research-
did. He is our reached out to an author named william roar by author of something called a book. I guess called american hippies
he's from university washington and said: hey. Is it true that these placard started sprouting up because of hippies? And it sounds like his answer was basically yes
cause. I guess it's true leave me alone. He wasn't very emphatic about it. He was just like kind of like yeah that sounds about right yeah. He was, and he basically made the point he was like this is not like. They didn't create these to put out hippies. It just so happens that rohrbach and cam came from or grew up in a coastal florida town, and he was like we had these signs long before hippies, but they were pretty much relegated to coastal florida towns with beaches, because there was a lot more formal back. Then that's not usually the case. Now. If you could walk into a beach bar in florida, they don't care what you're wearing or not wearing, but in the fifties he said, people are were more formal, so these things did exist, but it wasn't until the hippies came along that they really started popping up all over the country in businesses that wanted to keep hippies out
it was a really easy way to do it. I thought we had sort of a nod and a wink agreement to not say the s word, and you already said it. Oh did I yeah? What did I do when he said the s word I know, but where did I say? Can we can we crop it out? Just in the middle of that sentence? Oh man so rich
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baby. I screwed things like this badly chuck. I'm sorry, that's! Ok, but the same author. I think points out that, even though he was seeing these placards up in florida
in the nineteen fifties, when things are more formal that you go to florida today, something that you may see occasionally even which is the attitude, is, and sometimes they'll even have this posted no shirt, no shoes, no problem. Welcome to my bizzare.
Give any move to Florida yeah with your toes, bring him in yeah, so right, because he was saying that the culture was more formal back then in the fifties, which is why they would have a mini billboard in their window. That said, no, no shirt, no shoes, no service yeah, but now it's it's. It's margaritaville, Jimmy buffet style right. Did you go in there with your flip flops on no problem,
So if you looked at some of these squares of cardboard, there were a window it just justice
Add or any more now, if you looked at some of the signs, especially back in the fifties or or in the sixties or seventies, they would say something probably like by order of the health department right
out that this was a all face. Why, as dirty ally as the hippies feet, were dirty- and I think we'll talk about that right after a bright contract since, like a great clytie
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what they're is still around in their canadian. Ok I'll bet they like gordon lightfoot. I hope this makes up for my gordon lightfoot come. You know. If it's going to, but it's a good start out, met and Canada says love rush, do sure who doesn't love rush? I mean you'd have to be crazy, not to like rush absolutely so. I said something about the health department in saying that no, you can't come in with shirt or without a shirt or shoes, it's his dirty and where the health departments, so we know we don't truck there. That kind of thing and apparently is not the case, because the society for barefoot living course they did. They went to the trouble of writing to every health department in the country, every state health department, so fifty different health departments. They wrote a letter to probably a form letter, I'm sure they didn't person wise each one from scratch, but they got responses from the newly posted them on their site.
It says to a health department, no there's, no law whatsoever, saying that a customer can or can't enter a an establishment with or without shoes or a shirt. That's just not a law anywhere in the united states, yeah they're like if you work there, you gotta, wear shoes, yeah and assured. I think it's just called proper attire yeah. No one wants a chest. Hair in their pizza know it's much less vinnies! That's not what you want and especially vinny in florida cause. Then it smells like cocoa butter and it's muggy, but the health department doesn't care what the people that dine there are doing and they're concerned about. The the people running, the
who does care about? Ensuring rights is the? U S, federal government and depending on who you are in this country and when this was but the nineteen sixty four federal civil rights act basically said hey. If you got a business, you got a hotel, you got a store or restaurant, you can't say someone's gotta leave because of their religion or their race or color or
their national origin. What about their shoes and then the americans with disabilities act then extended that, of course, the people disabilities in certain states have gotten on board with.
Extending those rights to all americans. But the federal government has still not none gotten on board with extending those rights to all americans. Right again, though, what about the shoes- and the upshot of it is this- you can as a business owner, require certain forms of attire and be well within your legal rights to tell people they can't come in as long as you're, not just applying it to one protected group.
And not all people right, that's the key. So if you're just like em, you know the irish have to wear shoes, everybody else is fine you're going to get in trouble. If you do that, and at the very least the irish are going to be mad at you, because they'll be like what what did we do, but that's pretty much the key to the whole thing, yeah, exactly! Oh, that's it! That's the n ha! I have got nothing else. I got I'm wearing slippers. Carry now yeah me too. Are you wearing socks with your slippers know what kind of slippers you are in these days, though, sussex sasha washi slippers
ok, they're genuinely ebeneezer vary, but they're, really nice uncomfortable cloth slippers. I have gotten into these older kai, oh yeah, products in general. This is gonna, make me seem age it now, but I have my own kai spring and summer slippers that aren't super height, but then I was also you know. We went to or took her first trip to the bahamas over the holidays, and I found myself in a predicament when it comes to and this kind of,
dovetails with his episode as far as like beach, where an like how you got address at a restaurant
you're at a beach place or beat resort clothes toad, usually yeah, usually, but there's like it,
It's still pretty casual that what I found is there's like in this sounds so terrible, but there's like resort where great that you can wear to a nice place at a resort, but it's not like a nice place in new york city yeah, like you, don't wanna, wear Tommy bahama to you know. I can't even think of a nice place in new york, but you could as resort wear
yeah, but what a basically was had a predicament in there. I never feel like. I have the right shoes down there. I have my flip flops
for the poor and anna boots, my
You know my man do, balance by walking shoes and or whatever
and neither one of those feel right at a restaurant like that. So I got some.
Look I like a sort of resort. Wear shoes, ok, nice!
They like their oven and kind of like doc, siders or are they like topside earlier? These are so
sort of top or ask
it's not woven, but then I also got a pair of those like woven sandals that are kind of nice that you could wear to a restaurant. I am not
going to a resort any time in the planned future, but I was at nordstrom and german saw that they had spared top sighters.
Sale and I was like men getting those cause, they're a bargain and I'm gonna put them to
if someday, so I'm ready to go with the resort wear shoes. I love that we should meet up in the bahamas. It's very nice! Don't let's not be like nice, shoes and you'll, say nice shoes. Let's go get some amaro, oh no,
at down there? No, no! No! You drink a drink, some rum or something okay, we'll do that. Instead, okay, but that's it right, chuck yeah! We we successfully padded this one out to twelve minutes. Well, since chuck's
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