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Welcome to study should now run. Hasta for external aid was cast iron, Josh Partners. Charles the view, those Brian yup you know like about about no trickled down. I wanted. I wondered if I was related to Mr Clarke area dad's gonna say I am from now on killing veered were incorrect to explore ways of life here on George Clock clerks than usual name. You might be, but I mean like his family

from the Ohio River Valley, I grew up until later a year ago. I wonder you have an explorer spirit, your laid back guy yeah. He was laid back not like Louis Here's semi literate fairly letter. It that's the big distinction it is funny like have you read, solves verbatim journal interests who clarks or Louis's or both on the clerks way? Worse elusive, pretty good writer, I thought you ever he had some weird spellings to Clark is Dislike Frontier Kentucky boy. Writing in its yeah. They were good pair them, and this is one of those. Podcast were ordered stories. Re look back and you, like you, know, histories really pump this up and they were really kind of like this. Unlike Turks and none

This is really a great story and they were actually true american heroes. You know once in my tragic outside, while the ending is pretty tragic now, but Louis, lucid manic, depressive yeah by all accounts, get back, then they called it prone to prone to fits, but modern people say he was manic depressive right and I prepped by watching before our can burns documentary lessening for hours I thought it was two hours and I was like I got this and then I got to the two hour point and I was like wait a minute. They just hit the continental divide. I don't think I'm at the end, that's so funny, because in the email you you emailed me to suggest that I watch it.

Call it a six part not for our well. They headed on Youtube and six parts in actuality, it's twelve parts and filet with our aid. So let's do this. This is one of my favorite stories in history is a really Yemen and again, I have said this before: why isn't this a movie like a really good movie? Not have you seen almost heroes No, I write so Chuck Lewis and Clark Meriwether Louis, William Clark, yeah pair of army folk turned explores thanks to a little bit of arm. I guess serendipity egg

would have been somebody else. Had it not been these guys, because, really that all idea of this expedition, which was called the core of discovery, yes, sounds like a soccer team who it was. It was the brainchild of Thomas Jefferson, yeah in the brainchild of T J, because he's ok, I just bought. It is double the size of our country by buying a bunch of land from Napoleon. Do you know the background on the Louisiana, purchase and notes the greatest land deal in the history of the world, probably yeah, but what would he mean? Well, it was the french land and they were about to get it for they were about to get it, give it to the spanish while the Spanish were west of them so probably, and the French, like her, early any presence in this area, but it was their land, but the Spanish had they taken.

They would have been a real problem because the Americans had access to the port of New Orleans because the French were basically absentee landlords there yet, and so the idea that the Spaniards were about to get it. There was a big problem, so Jefferson sent some people over France to try to negotiate something right and it turned out. Napoleon was having all sorts of problems and in Iraq men to him by his people like just sell it to the Americans. They're coming over, they wanna talk, so I think James Monroe was sent by Thomas Jefferson with the ILO of ten million dollars to do something the eye, Florida in New Orleans or New Orleans for the ten million dollars here Monroe found out. He could get all of the Louisiana territory which went up to Canada Louisiana is really under sells it. It was a went from the rockies all you over to the colonies year and then up to care and down to the Gulf of Mexico. Yet it was a double the size of our country yeah overnight.

Railways like I'll, give you fifteen million dollars for it in the French. Will I get old sorry? He bought a hundred and twenty seven thousand square miles of North America about three, since an acre agenda That was a chunk, a change. I think that was double what our era are. Gross economy was at the time, but it's pretty good investment as agreed in this. Can you imagine how we're that would be if it again four way. The United States could have ended it about the Mississippi River, which it did at the time and beyond that on the other side gave have been Spain right for not Spain, but you know them in a Spanish. It could have been a lot like come Africa in all ago, these former colonies that are dislike adjacent to one another, but this is a french colleagues as a belgian colonies, Serbia Colony and I think the Brits controlled Canada, unlike the Oregon territory at the time. Yes, here we were all sandwich can in their together, so we buy from the French. We go fight the Spanish for the rest of

and in between all of us we send Lewis and Clark to go check out what had just been bought and this expedition was gonna happen anyway, but we thought that we were gonna have to ask for permission to go through. Area right, but now, all of a sudden it was America and they added a facet to this expedition that had been there before which was basically informing the Indians that they were now living in America, and they have, a new great father? Would yeah Meriwether Louis put it how he had described e g, You have a new great father who lives in a large in Washington DC, come visit him and see like how graded, albeit a live under his patronage, but not really had to sign the treaty. So he named, he was his private we're Terry Louis was his. Can a personal aid,

and he knew what kind of duty was maybe drank too much was prone to depression, but he he sort of gave him this job to help him out. He thought he be good for it. Don't get me wrong, he groomed him for the police, but yeah. He thought it would be key, had heated vested interests in the man like this. Is me really good for Louis is what needs he's twenty nine years old, which is remarkable to me good sharpshooter. He said you pick your partner. He picked William Clark who was his former captain. I believe army couple years older and he looked up the Clark quite a bit like. I need you brother, because you compliment you complete me, which, by the way, we should probably say, there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Lewis and Clark, wherever gay car

Definitely wonder is that a rumour dealers, Lahti conjecture, barely Merriweather Louis, was he courted several women and was rejected by all of us. Here is a total eligible bachelor? Never married, never was engaged her betrothed or anything so, of course, as time or I'm people like while you must have been gay. I've never heard it. There's been a lot of a lot of conjecture and they come up with the idea that he probably wasn't gay but that he was come by though he had something of an aversion to women that was not necessarily based on any kind of sexual orientation. Hunters didn't know what he was doing any didn't feel comfortable around women yeah. That is the main goal. Well,

couple of angles. The mangled for Jefferson was hey. I want to find this all water route to the sea is really important for trade, but also hey. Let's check out this thing: we just bought and go out record is much of it is you can animals plants, people what the heck is out. There basically come back and tell us rain loose, wasn't exactly as slouch when it came to this kind of stuff. His mother was a celebrated herb doctor in urging you yes he's doing and dumb she can arise TIM in the woods. So he was, he was pretty good at botany, but to just kind of further education and not just that, but also of other things that would come in handy, an expedition Jeff.

And sent him to the American Philosophical Association, which is the first learned society in North America, and basically he underwent this. Like gruelling crash course of everything, from astronomy to cartographer, feed, geology, medical training, everything everything you got, you would need they basically just filled Louis's head with in turn, filled clerk in a lot of it to you are also a lot of what they might encounter in ways of will call them Indians for the purposes of the show, because that's what they call them right in Jefferson's like enough for you to call me great Father, it's so Louis's in Pittsburgh in Philadelphia. Getting this training he writes to Clark says: please join me on this and you were my captain, I'm a cat,

we're going to be Co. Captains on this yeah, just so there's not any kind of weirdness or anything like that. Like I'm, I was chosen to leave the expedition, but I'm choosing you for help, but let's do this even lay, which is unheard of and it actually even more unheard of it worked out really well. Yeah did like there wasn't any kind, like back biting or no problems in, they actually ran it a bit like a drama. See two year in the end, the they were kind of described as a family like really really tight net. I kept waiting for this, to go off the real right, but it did really hung together and stuck together and after some initial discipline problems once kind of weeded out. I think from Sir, were to fall. They gonna weeded out some of the the bad apples. Well, what's funny One guy got discharge for mutinous acts. Yet another guy got discharge for desertion, but-

they. This happened in the middle of the first leg of the trip, so they had to stay on get him to a place where they could go back, so they just had them doing hard labor the whole so they brought along a couple of people of note. One Clark took his slave York that he had had. And he was a kid he was only only black guy and we only slave on the on the party right on the adventure Party will call it. He was um. He was technically a man servant. I guess like a valet or something like that to Clark outside of the expedition, but on the expedition York basically just a member of the party yeah. He was a member of the party. He player the great Rowan diplomacy because

American Indian, was had never seen a black people before and they didn't have hang ups. Obviously like white people did so. There are like this guy's awesome he's huge, any strong in that, like amazing, black skin, that's even darker than ours, like they really thought. He was great and I mean I'm sure all the white people They might well yeah. Look at me. Look at me what about media, my fair white skin and France with the great father, but he played a great diplomacy and, like you said, was generally treated well, although he did gets sort of sort of some of the crap duties or policy also got Roy screwed over at the end of the expedition dahlia will get to that. Ok, and so we have York with Clark Louis purchased, a dog for twenty dollars, name see man and they used to think it was scanning because they, these guys handwriting with so bad. That further really be a basically a century, like everybody thought it was

scanning for centuries, and then somebody figured out wait a minute wise one of these rivers called Siemens Creek right. Then they realized, wait, that's the dog! That's everybody by the way had something named after them, and they had trouble coming up with names for everything like York, the York Islands of Montana, like everybody on that tour at something named after, it's gonna need so he's a Newfoundland dog and he made it the whole way. We're habited Gooden spoil that one year, which has great cause. They ate thugs by the way. When on the Strip, data lotta horse, heavy TED. So, like you said they start in Pittsburgh, but the official site It was really in Saint Louis, in December, of eighteen, o three and there like right. Let's hit the river, the Missouri River will that's where they symbol camp in wintered, other writing losing they started, allow their people and random through like

retraining. India took the best of the best. The officially started may the falling spring. Of course you instruct the winter, so they had a big kill boat in a couple of smaller canoes and said, let's hit the river and they did so they so astute. Because, again, ultimately, Jefferson was looking for a northwest passage the continent to the Pacific, and he wanted to see if you could basically writer river all the way across the country yeah by the time. I think you're about forty five people at first, but when they eventually whittled down the official cord discovery was thirty three people right, so they they had out and they start going upstream up the Missouri River and it was rough going.

First, the literally pulling their boat out from outside the water waist deep by two rope against the current again, the other going upstream, the whole way to the source of the Missouri River yeah, so the first Indians they encountered will not the first the first situation they encountered where the Teuton Sue, but the Lakota, and actually warned by previous American Indians like watch out for these guys, their basically the mafia of the Missouri River. Oh yeah, like demand payment, they won't they'll. Take your goods, they'll controlled the trade, yet they wanted them to trade exclusively with them. Yet they had done this to the french and spanish for years and they, I think Louis, called him the pirates of the Missouri, but when they did reach them, it came to us and off over a canoe that there they gave them their gifts. The first thing they would do whenever they incur

A new tribe was like, given these trinkets tell him about the great Father, give them my handkerchief. Some things like we come in peace and dumb with with the Tita pseudo, though those stand off over canoe that they wanted there like we're, not giving his canoe, and at least We came to a point where guns were raised and, like hundreds of Indians had their arrows pointed at them and it was about to go down and chief black Buffalo intervened, like you know it. Let our women and children, tour you're, really cool boat, that we ve never seen and meet all you guys, and then you can have say fast. So they managed to get through their unscathed, but that was our first like Runnin, where they're like man. This could go down pre badly yeah. Luckily that was one of just a few. I think. As far as cross country, unchartered expeditions yeah uncharted expeditions go. This went about as good as you could possibly hope for

I mean a super peaceful. There were the Comoros discoveries, yet academic or blood Sanderson. Well, they only shot one bullet and anger. The entire trip designs pretty remarkable. That is needed, so they hit the great, gains, and that might as well have been Mars to them. If you think about it, if you'd never been west of, I think there is a saying that a squirrel can jump from tree to tree till it's the Mississippi, and so when they hit the great plains, they had never seen anything like it like there were no trees. This is plain just vacant and it was just you know. There were absolutely blown away by this. And there they encountered the and then in monetary or he dots, Indians right and they decided this pretty good place to fill the camps. The out here for a few months and they built Fort mandate, which they named after the local one of the local tribes,

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Eu Trade Securities Elsie Member S, eye pc, Johnny Chuck so we're at Fort Man and which is where in South Dakota, I think Yes, mother, told us they were having a guest. I'm hanging out having what sex with the local Ladys yeah there's a big, problem with a venereal disease expedition because, like they were having a lot of sex, Indians enter the Indians had syphilis, which thing that was unknown. The european idea and Europeans contracted it very easily. So that was a big thing,

but there was another thing about Louis two, apparently like everybody else in the expedition, I was he had sex with indian women and he was dyke. He he stayed away from his journal. Entries about, like indian sexual practices were very like interests need, I think, is away. One person put it. That is just using a duck it I get what if he tried to put on loan that he was just being a clean, it up they're like Louis. It doesn't hurt when he peace, like something's, going on in a desert burn. I don't think he's having he's an outlaw. He says he had sex with always women greater burnt on IP is apparent when you be then burn when Louis Peace apparently burning when you ve, like was a big thing. Unsure on this at the core of discoveries, discovered syphilis too, it so the other important thing that happened here, which is, I think, what you are getting too, was they hired,

french, canadian trapper name to saw Charbonneau, but they really what they were doing was hiring his wife. Yes, I could go. We Osaka away or Sokoto we're. I didn't mispronouncing eat him, miss pronounce a lotta pronunciation, yeah, but there's only one that's right, and then the right one is based on the Journal entries of Louis Clark, everybody else in the expedition, because this is an expedition. Everyone was expected to like notes in and yet there, although only uptown, right here and Psycho go here, is mentioned dozens of times in these journals cause. She did this amount standing stuff area and she's mention fanatically, so it's Sarka go. We

There are also at some point. It's also mention that her name is Shoshone for bird woman and in showing Saka is bird and we're is woman. So it's a cargo we're not second jellia. The trade volume in its big point is true. Although the kin burns thing these historians all pronounce it differently, which is what frustrating the other second co, wake her yeah and in second where they are one of the ladys color straight up. Secondly, I like her straight up seconds- you hate her, so she was very important because a she was a translator, be she was essentially a whitewash everywhere. They went- and I don't think we said this, but by the time they broke camp to leave, she had a baby. Yes, she actually gave birth to a first child in Fort manned and Jean Baptiste Charbonneau yeah, whose pretty cool grew up to be pretty cool Yasser but psychic, aware

if we say? Second, you we're too. I think that's fair. She! She was sixteen at the time and she was married Charbonneau. Yet one of two of his wives, and I didn't hear anything about the other. Had an illness has shown a woman. Did she go along. I don't think so. Ok, so she Jean Baptiste and to saw, were a family. Even though Segovia was Tucson slave wife, I he purchased her yeah, but she was shown and the reason why she was so values, because the expedition leaders had found out there This is shown they were known for their horsing abilities and reacting tradition head two horses that they set out with him we're like we're going to need a lot more sure had so why we need to trade with the Shoshone when we make it to the Rockies, and we will need this woman and she comes in handy to a spectacular degree. In this sense,

yeah, and not only wish you white flag. She was just great for the Spirit of the camp to have a woman there. Yet baby was a charmer too. Of course, you know you can't pull up with a woman in a baby in say, like were warring people exactly apparently across all try. Along the planes. If you have a woman and a baby in your party, your automatically, not a war party and therefore you come in peace and she was also pretty awesome. Charbonneau himself was described as quite average, but Calloway was the real deal like one of the bravest members of the expedition and One point one of the boats overturned in they lost we're losing a lot of their important records and things He was the main one that was like boom in the water retrieving the stuff get while Charbonneau Is- and I know what he was done. Who knows what Charbonneau by psychic away? I was swimming retrieving the stuff this is after she given birth is while she's breastfeeding walking scores of mile

in any given weak she's, pretty tough, yet Anita will govern spoil this. That baby, like we said, lived it made. All the way, their back, this brand new baby till the of about a guess, two and a half, and he to stall William Clerks heart. Yet he love em up adopting he did. He adopted I'm an educated women Saint Louis Year after she died yeah. He darted both her kids here much so arm but yeah. His name was Jean Baptiste the baby and he was nickname Pompey because of his pompous little dancing antics as card found. It would be quite a little dancer,

so the the other way that psychic away I was on a helpful to this expedition was that she was a translator. She could speak Shoshone. Obviously here she could also Speaker had Arthur, and so her husband could speak her daughter. So if she was speaking, no Shoshone was sitting Kurdish, as shown in person. The Shoshone would speak to psychic away. She would say what they said in her daughter to her husband, her husband would say in French what has just been said: Anne had atta near to another man who, in turn tell William and Mary, whether what had been said in English yeah, that was the translation line, then psychic away. I was the pivotal point of this as far as speaking too

in strides Y yeah, and you would think that setting it up to say, unlike big problems, arose because of it. But it really worked pretty well now, because there are also train. In plain sign language to, apparently, there was a lot of thumb gesturing that was fairly universal, that a lot of the people who are recruited in Saint Louis originally were familiar with two. Yet do they get along pretty what they did? are you so after the men in villages, they broke camp and went on to the confluence of the Yellowstone, with the Missouri and entered a land where they started seeing like when they hit the planes asserting these crazy animals had never seen before it's important say they didn't discover anything yeah. It's very important there, just the first white guys to record at present, yeah but Prairie dogs and Elk and Buffalo by the tens of thousands antelope all kinds of things to them. There were just these weird animals, actually Sinhala Prairie dog back to

person for the lady, and I made it all the way. Grizzly bears the counter those for the first time in the expedition yeah, they were warned the grizzly by the Indians and they were like. We ve, hunted brown bear by the right wing out how him out there, and then they were kind of like wholly crap layer in there journals era like I've, never seen anything like this. It took ten shots and we almost died and the Grizzly bears to be reckoned with. Louis said something like come address fight to Indians than one Grizzly bear yeah here we are in early June, they reached the point where the Missouri divided, that they didn't. They weren't told about this fork to occur, right. What should we do here away in equal parts, north and South YE? I mean it was like a hard core left and right there was basically, everyone in the party, agreed on one direction except Lewis and Clark there,

we were old school we like in sync, so there despite the fact that everyone disagreed they followed them and that two shows, like how united they were. There are like. You know what we don't think you guys are right, but we're going to follow you, because you are our captains and we want to see your face when you realize you're wrong, which actually would happen, but it wouldn t do like eating each other, like the Donner Party so the they moseying along in their doom pretty well, they apparently they got to a point. Where Clark look down one day. I think those carpet was possibly Louis too. It was Louis and he read is there a little stream at his feet was running west, any realised that they just cross the continental divide, yeah, that was the mouth of the Missouri that there are literally straddling when your feet and they are that meant that now they just let the Missouri and we're going to hook up. Firstly, when, under the snake river

but that would take them to the Columbia River which, by their reckoning, we take them to the Pacific Ocean. So they made it like a substantial amount of of distance, yeah. That was a depressing moment over Louis, because he he thought when he reached that ridge that he would look and see just downhill to the ocean and what he saw Rocky Mountains Nevada, and he was like a man. This is not going to be very easy. Now we did know about the rocky since no one, even even still when they finally do. You think that they see the ocean. They still were twenty five miles away from it when they finally get to that point yet, which will get you know sorry

so what they ended up doing they made a mistake because there was a short cut. They could have taken really that would have taken for days and instead they had to go work their way around. The great falls of Montana, which took fifty three days of portage. Ah uneasy portage, yet because this portage was like carrying these boats year, but also these guys worrying, like moccasins stuff, and they had a huge problem with prickly, pear yeah. What We just go right through your moccasin is basically like stepping on nails the whole time, while you're carrying a very heavy boat, yeah and all your supplies, whiskey in food salt one July twenty third- they that another fork three forks they named

the Gallatin for the Secretary of Treasury, the medicine for the Secretary of State in the Jefferson and decided to follow the Jefferson, because there is more to it. I think yeah I think there are like this is the one that is going to head west right. So they follow that. I think it this pointer either bright before, right after they they meet up with the Shoshone. Have they met the Shoshone yet well, at this point, Louis went off by himself in a couple of more people define the Shoshone, including I could go era are known, she wasn't area and I think she was very occur, but he did find them. Go away. I know she wasn't there yet, and I think she was there, but he did find them here. Yet we want you to come, hang out at all there in bad shape, apparently the Shoshone. Where are they were yet they were here. Yet we want you to come, hang out at all there in bad shape. Apparently this is shown here

these women and children in and told him all that stuff and they came back and hung out with them and at camp psychic aware you recognised one of the women. Their Clark was a clerk or Louis. I think at this point it is both who that who they came back with in said, hey we found some shown in she said: hey, that's actually might be a fair from first grade cause. Rumour psychic aware happen, don't in she said: hey, that's actually might be a fair from first grade cause rumours I could go area have been kidnapped and sold yeah, so there were still members of her tribe living around the Rockies and she actually met up with them and with her brother who was now chief, yes, she's, like your chief, you know it little sister anyway you're married to which is not funny at all. You know so then they proceeded across a continental divide to the main village, with the Shoney's

and hard on a tour guide, all Toby, which is a great name here for an imminent or guide and said Toby's. You know a lead you through these mountains, but we're gonna need some horses to eat cause. It's gonna be rough anteater right, but this is where they were really eating a lot horse: meat, the Bitterroot mountains. It was pretty rough, Montana in Idaho I was when you know their spirits were never broken, but that's when they were dampened for sure so um when their make it through the routes. I dont remember why they did or where. But there is a point where they said we can't use his horses anymore. I guess when they got onto the Columbia River right, we'll make is this where there are eating salmon in the salmon was making them sick yet well. Maybe as this, where there are eating salmon in the salmon, was making them sick. Yet so they come,

yeah and on their celebrated, welcome, very throw a feast forum and it makes everybody violently ill in the expedition. Rather like a salmon is awful yeah are these routes or whatever, but it was the routes that gun he. I think it was so I ever Apparently everyone recovered, but they say: ok, well, here's the Columbia River! We can only use his horses anymore. I think one of the things it's very much overly in the history of this expedition is just how much the cord discovery relied on friendly tribes. So, like one they hit the Columbia River, they said, hey shit. They are known as Pierce friends, you will. You watch our horses for us and then, as peer said. Yes, you guys go to the Pacific Ocean when you come back will, have your horses go ahead and bring them, so you know which ones are yours and they did yeah. They left their horses with the Nez Perce yeah. It was kind of a best case scenario story for most of the trip

yes, pretty cool and that is actually to where they were the, where they traded for dog to eat, which was one of the only disappointing parts of the store for me that in what happened to York, right? So this point its MID October: it floated down to the great falls of the Columbia, which is now soliloquy, falls and think about how much easier it was at this point they're, not going upstream any longer. They deal with the current true, but it was the organ territory, so they were getting arraigned on constantly area and it is pretty brutal conditions, but you're right. It wasn't like slogan through in the summer time pulling that both upstream Stepan, I'm prickly pear exactly so. This is where, on November, seventh, they thought that they saw the ocean. Actually a bay about twenty five miles inland and what I said ocean. In view o c, I am, I love the ocean.

In this the same paragraph they misspelled ocean, but with two different ways, give him a break come on Finally, finally, finally, by MID November, they strolled upon the sands of the pacific- and this is of the really sad part- is that Meriwether called it. Tempests some horrible, like he wasn't like. Oh, we made it. He was used depressed and he was like this isn't like the Atlantic Ocean. This is rocky and beating us with waves like the organ Kostas rough, and he didn't cotton to it, but what he did. Cotonou is being an accurate dude by dead reckoning over the course of over forty one hundred miles. He was only off by forty miles wow

charting this. This right. That is pretty amazing. Pretty remarkable. So psychic aware, one of the reasons she signed on aside from being a slave to her husband who signed her on, was that she wanted to see the Pacific she'd heard about the great waters, area and yeah, and so when they were getting closer She petition Lewis and Clark saying like there's no way you can. Let me not come with you to see the Pacific Ocean itself and they let her come along. They had word from some local tribe, I'm not sure which one it was that there was a monstrous fish on the beach and loosened clerks. A better talk about a whale. We should go, get some blubber idiotic, always like I'm. There I'm coming with you, so they took her long and they all got to go. See the Pacific Ocean, whether whale personal at first time, yet they get a bunch of blubbering oil and stuff from it and it died first. So you can keep liking, Lewis and Clark

so they can't there on the Pacific for a full four months yeah. Basically, they were trying to do things that are trying to decide what to do and they were technically. They were waiting for about two come by their letter, credit from Jefferson. That said, hey. If you're about give these people a ride back and will pay you like good money by you, I, rather they never seriously thought that they were going to take a boat back. Well, that was the deal is technically they were supposed to be waiting for about what they were really doing was just sort of weighing their options as to how best to go back and win, and this is the really cool part they put it to a vote evaded put it too. And if it was a vote that included an african American and a woman in a native American here. At the end, it was a who psychic aware an york both had both their votes were given equal weight to everybody else's yeah, his article where to Camp set up camp,

winter, yesterday elected to cross the river to the south. They were informed that there was elk and dear you can hold up here. You can hunt all winter and they did and prepare your

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Did he come out of it at all, while there at the Pacific, we did it to stick the whole time I mean I think it was up and down. Basically, they believe when he was not recording and his journal. He was depressed, but he is remarkable in that he soldier on, like this, a manic depressive, who was still I getting up every day in doing this and like the worst thing he did was, journal, but actually the worst thing he did was on the way back. He stole a canoe at one point, which is really out of character and he was described, is kind of like cracking at the seams at this point, which is really said, so March, 23rd, one thousand eight hundred and six. They started back up the Columbia with these new canoes water for some horses and camped with the Nez Perce for a month, and no, they got their horses back.

Then as pierce those horses that those were there's the ones they brain I desire, for they got back there to the nest beers they bartered for some horses and then eventually look back with a nest Pearson Camp for a month and get their horses bank at the horses pack. I think that your favorite bar this thing it's cool there. Let's he guys we hang onto this war. They also sunk their canoes at a certain point and then those neat went back and got those yet to keep that keep the canoes from being sent down river. They just Sancho, and then they came backing ATO s pretty cool so they basically retrace their trail through the bitter roots, only one retrograde march in the entire journey, which means yet the double back drastically, which is in itself pretty remarkable and then on July. Third, eighteen o six. They separated back where they read that original shortcut that they should have taken and said Hale at sinned, often different factions here and do a little bit more exploring a little bit more recording of things. It is hungry. We slacked off well Yak as Erika on, like us

home, but on the way home. Yet this is where Louis, where they ran into their first kind of violent episode with the black feet Indians, and a dude shot at Louis he shot back, hid the guy in the belly. Another guy stabbed the Blackfeet Indian or is it a blackfoot? I think like foot, and They rode away like that. The black sea dead, but two of them died and it was outside, They had gone all that way without violence and they, finally, the go had, to their hand, was forced, essentially Chuck, also there's another shooting that took place during this period, but this one is accidental area. Louis was actually shot when using bacon for and Elk. Yet while he was out hunting with a member of the expedition peer cruiser and cries out, didn't face up to it immediately heads he. Like. I guess what Madame femininity at the monitoring. Those Blackfeet and F

Finally, when they searched area found no sign of Blackfeet Chris, I was like some I value out, I'm blind and one I don't forget yet, but I'm the fiddle player and everybody loves me. Saint Louis was like rule just let it go and patiently was really in a lot of pain. It hit me in the dry and like here too long and difficult recovery for the rest of the time. But it was about this time when everybody came back together. Yeah in this universe, Sort and bovine is part of the story, but they eventually did all meet back up pretty remarkably, like. I think the story is one of the rounded a ban and a right as they did, that the others were rounding. The ban in there I it's you like you out here in the middle of nowhere. Eventually went back to the man in villages. That is where the shark no family left the expedition, and that is where

private John Culture, who is one of the men said you know at Saint Louis, like I don't like it there I really like it out here. Can I can I go back now, like German? Go go West young man exactly in here So he did here. He was going to work with some french trappers and they had a falling out pretty quickly after and then this guy Coulter yeah, he went off on his own and they think use the first white person to enter what's now Yellowstone Park and he was alive. He was the first to recount the geysers and even still this part of it called culture. L, L, cool the geyser area of Yellow STAR burial. So reportedly the only thing they did not run out of on the way home was powder led paper in ink while early states. What kingbirds, as you know, me, but a little cherry on top of everything.

Finally, in September of one thousand eight hundred and six on the 23rd they arrived victorious in St Louis and the river was lined with people cheering for them, shooting their guns in the air and, like we should point out, everyone thought they were dead oh yeah yeah mean for a long time like they were sending messages back and prairie dogs, but then at a certain point that was impossible, so even Jefferson had given up hope they ve been like they been gone for two and a half years now, like we're, not gonna, hear from Lewis and Clark again And then they did and then they did and covered about eight thousand miles over to your for months and nine days discovered, I'm sorry not discovered, saw recorded a hundred and twenty two animals that they had never seen a hundred seventy plants tat they had never seen and did a pretty darn good job of cartographer cartography is even worse.

I think it is drawn maps those great describing the rocky mountains endeavours. Like rocky mountains but I have mountains. There are those in there are like their snow capped. Even in the summer, and they were in other nursing, anus are blown away so um after this Clark sets up shop and Saint Louis, yet done everyone's pay, which was nice and gave everyone a bunch of land right, you, the guy, I think three hundred and twenty acres. Doesn't larga sixteen hundred each but right the rest of the guy's got like three. Twenty, almost the rest, people did not get any land or any money and that a second aware and your gear, which sucks he had. Apparently York had a difficult reentry into slavery. I can imagine so

yeah living like that and then going back to being a slave yeah, and so he asked Clark for his freedom. He was like, I don't get Lana on stuff, but how about my freedom, because I know, and not only that he wrote his brother a letter and said you know. York is being kind uppity, since he got back he's, not he's not being a good slave and he's having trouble, and so I had to beat him. No, yet that was at one time runs like a man, yet it's pretty awful suicide. Really headed in the right direction in the Alps, it happened was, he could have just said. Yes, you are free and then it would have been the best or ever man. That's that's really are I had no idea about that year and then there were their various accounts that he might have been freed.

Years later, or perhaps escaped known as quite for sure, even though the notice Kin Burns does a lot of factual stating of things that are disputed media, like he D, said straight up that he was freed five years later, and I read up on it and people, like maybe not conferences, does whatever his hair cut. Tells me I'm a sucker for those things, though I mean, I know a lot of documentary. Film makers, gonna, Poohpooh him, the ear by me how it takes a certain interpretation, and that's that exact, like you said so, let us wait, I'm really disappointed in car either at stinks. Why do you want me to do This version is talk about Louis here I mean Kirkland on. We should say that have like a very successful rest of his career will hold on you wanna bright side, ok Bill Clinton. Two thousand one gave a posthumous rank as sergeant and the army to York. Oh great, so

that's kind of canonize and waited go Clinton. Today there are some statues, in writing. York, one in Louisville Kentucky think there's one. It Lewis and Clark College in Portland in Kansas City, there's one so his ease deaf I've been smiled upon historically, is like a great man, an adventure by everyone, but will include yet and his family, who is like no so Louis, had some difficulties upon returning home. He has made winner appointed governor of the Upper Louisiana territory, thing started out well, but then he can a gotten to finance. Trouble his territory in financial terms. Right here, and he was going to Washington. He was unable to complete. The big thing was that he was unable to complete what he was supposed to do, which is come back and write about the whole thing gathers weren't published until eighteen fourteen we as eight years after they returned

Even then there were published after his death yeah. Those is, by all accounts, pretty depressed. He was on his way to Washington supposedly to plead for more money for the territory. Yet again, if he had been called out on some finances- and you want to go clear that up in supposedly he had some some of his journals that he wanted to turn in. Her gotcha, like here, have got this nor any fellow to favour low. That would Jefferson, because of all that, which is constantly it did,

because there is room by Jefferson. There was a family friend like they were friends, so um Louis, I guess is on his way to Washington, is following the Natchez Trail Natchez Trace, and I he stops in Tennessee at a place called the grinders in in your Nashville and that's where he died. He was, he was found well, apparently crawling toward the innkeepers wife shot bleeding asking for water and she's just like screamed and ran away yet- and this is another disputed thing- was each

older didn't commit suicide. If you, Google, death of Merriweather Louis, it comes up suicide, but it is definitely in dispute yeah and can burn straight up said he killed himself and was very sad while the reason why it's in dispute- because he was shot in the adamant and in the head- yes also an expert marksman, Yandah suicide people. I think reckon that back then, with guns like clearly want to do it. You would point when it your chest and one in your head and squeeze at the same time our really like him, but I mean why he was murdered for money and worrying, say nothing. Sadly, even though this story had a happy ending, it was sort beginning at the end of the american Indian. That's a pretty big thing to point out where there was agreed. Quote from one of the people in the documentary said they left his students came back his teachers and said

They America failed to learn the lessons that they had brought back with them, because it s They had gone away of Lewis and Clark, and ass. They were basically like. Hey get the great Father, like you said we live in harmony and they believed him and they believe themselves, you know they weren't, like Poland, one over on his ear and as you said, that it went down a different way from that point forward. Basically, you know I'm saying there is one brief moment when it could have gone indifferent way, and that was it, but the clerk and Louis also I guess kind of

the way for the idea of Manifest destiny drew, although that was in coin, until about forty years after the expedition. They are always held up as this idea, and this is an idea that people subscribe to you for a very long time. Yes, that America was destined to take up the area between the Pacific and the Atlantic is our destiny in there for anything that stood. Norway should just fall before us as we swept outward toward the Pacific ocean. The end justifies the Means and Lewis and Clark was like look there. There are an example of that Clark eventually died of natural causes in eighteen, thirty, eight most of the rest of the party shortages faded into history. Baptist dwell yeah, he didn't he became like the court is not a court, is on be lady, a courtier bright boy you're a two year of leeway to Europe, but he was no accident. German prince our german Prince Prince Wilhelm, ok,.

And I think the oldest survivor lived to be Ninety nine live all the way to the civil war Gloria and at the age of ninety volunteered to fight for the union and out of it, took him up on. Her third is like we get it your legend but work. We got this sureness, so the sailors and clerk Expedition, the core of disk raise the dog lived, the baby lived near, the dog made it all away. They only lost one person on the entire trip Charles Void in. Died early on of what they believe was probably appendicitis, verse appendix and pretty amazing near they didn't have each other. Now they didn't even eat the guy who die the birth appendix. Does dog and horse If you gonna, be us now

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