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The Time Nazis Invaded Florida

2015-07-16 | 🔗

During World War II, Nazis invaded the United States with saboteurs bent on fomenting chaos. Three times.

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We are living in complicated times, I'm seventy rule, MSNBC Anchor and NBC News corresponding in my new plug cast modern rules. I'm gonna be spending time unpacking. Some of the hair is of today's tat. I decided I was moved to survive and survival price, but equal board. They won't need its american listen and subscribe to my new pod cast modern rules on Apple five test, the iron radio or wherever you get her factor. Welcome to stop. You should know how stuff works that I welcome the focus on Josh Partners trials to be private juries over there. This is still huge. No, so huge thanks right off the bat
Everyone who came out for our northeast was one summer tour. Yes, it was a success. A big thank serve ass in New York in Philadelphia and Durham in Washington D C and look for us, this fall like early October in the MID west. The upper Midwest don't get excited yet Saint Louis. Not yet now but hopefully were targeting at Detroit. His boy were long overdue for Detroit yeah. I don't know how we're gonna be received in Detroit you're gonna love us. I hope so. I think GAD we're lookin at Chicago to try maybe Cleveland Minneapolis, Minneapolis, lucky They walk. Your Madison were not quite sure, yeah yeah, so arm, maybe some advice, Wisconsin Knights and then everyone in each city would say come here up, you're driving. If you
yeah yeah, thanks for the support and them look force, this fall and did you think square space yeah? Did you think how stuff works? Did you think Jerry for the moral support sure I think, Jerry Everyday nice part of my wake up routine yeah, I'm looking forward to go back onto its fun? It's ok, richness, I'm had according to channel our stuff, you missed in history class yeah, I'm not sure if they ve done this or not have or you know so Chuck. I don't know if you know this one can think up in this article, but back and we were too did you know that the japanese act
carried a bombing campaigns, two of em in Oregon. I didn't know that eight, it I'm a bit of above and then at Saint yeah. I mean there's a lot of forgotten history or little known history, that you read it and thank God for like the internet, because some other posted article say I bet you never knew the year and then you were there That's pretty much. The function of the internet, There- are you sure, so this one, I think I ve learned about this from unsurprisingly Uncle John Bathroom reader years and years and years ago, but definitely not in this kind of detail, there are more war too in nineteen. Forty two, I believe in arm again set York, which is on long island impiety, Vader Beach, Florida, which is just south of a Jacksonville Nazi.
Every tours landed, they invaded America. Pretty remarkable really is what is even more remark was how badly their operate Why you what's remarkable is one that remarkable. What's, thankfully, they chose a bunch of doped half hearted dope, half hearted dupes, who I dont know if they didn't do their research, what will get into how they pick these dish mouths but I didn't go so well- and I really do, but if they are to pick some like the right guys, it might have been a whole different story. Oh yeah, totally in this war and the FBI in especially J Edgar Hoover, really lucked out that these guys were half hearted. Doubt mammography. Ask him now is this: you might wanna tape around the office, the Vienna
may have, and little else so I am back in war were to even before one. You're before the. U S entered the second World war. Hitler had this great fantasy of sending New York City up in flight. Yeah like he really wanted this to destroy New York, and in November, on the who helped get America to the moon was working on a rocket program that could strike the United States from Europe. There was one thing never fully realise now, because war came to an end before they could develop the right kind of missile, but they were working on it here and there are also working on Longrange farmers. They can fly out of Europe all the way to a magazine, coasts and bomb the apparently hidden he's too literally sit around and watch like film footage of cities burning and like Van insights about New York City, crazy yeah. Why he was pretty crazy. Cure
but he finally realise that like if he was going to get New York, the best most efficient, most at hand way to do that. To send savvy tours into the United States to infiltrate and do New York themselves, the train Hannah terrorist, essentially via the only thing they kept him from being considered full fledged straight. Terrorists is because we were formerly at war with this country. So yet they were, they were considered. Officially spies and unofficially savvy tours yes, but should we shot up articles here? Yes, let's right off the bat, I read read a few. I read one on damned interesting, which was good. There was one you sent a world war two.
A german servitors invade America in nineteen forty two year that was on history net history net young. I feel that there is one more there's a deer Spiegel article yeah, that's one alarm call operates tempestuous, Hitler's unfulfilled dream of a New York in flames. Yet poor I know that his dreams failed. So what two hadn't been raging for long for the? U S when this happened. It was right. After pull, harbour was bombed and Hitler said you know what they think there are over there there a long way from us, so they probably feel pretty pretty safe. So let me underline that and let me devise this plan and it was originally. Be a wave of saboteurs. I worry you no forty six weeks, they were gonna, be in small teams of of
or a slash, spies to wreak havoc on the? U S, and thankfully it didn't work out that ways it was kind of wrapped near the M the up there. I think this you pronounce it you're, the one who knows german up. There is a right here, I was the the basically the sabotage unit. German, military intelligence core and these guys had kind of perfected their craft with explosives. Terrorism and in dumb all that jazz here in Europe, theatres already in the war, and so they set up a school the terrorists school which supposedly these guys were train and like Jujitsu as well as explosives and stuff. Like that, you and I'll bet it looks a lot like come enter the dragon and thereby with Germans, Hannah yeah. I wonder if they were training, kung, FU school on an island
But this is in the woods. I wonder if they in the black forest, perhaps yeah, I wonder if they were trained, pinnacle and movie watching and car carbine that this huge that will in rolling over a thin singing like a canary, so the very selected a man, his name was water cap or is it Cappy be evolved, a cop? What Walter CAP, who visa pudgy bull next man as described in the history article and the reason that they selected him to head up this operation, which cap came, the nickname, is operating Pistorius, which is named after Frances. Daniel pester is one of the early german immigrants, the United States, who write in Philadelphia in sixteen eighty three recently. So tat for this operation was because he had lived in America for twelve is already so young ass. He was
understood. America have functional, white target should be struck that kind of stuff too, and they said, select your teams yeah He put a donkey on the wall, got his tail with the little panel it right, now what he did was. He did some research any went through the records of something called the offline institute yeah and they were big on getting Germans back to Germany, right ones that have emigrated to states all over the world out yeah well case. So, specifically the ones you look even looking for a ones who had been in the United States in this case and a lot of these people have been and what was called boon or is it the bond? I would say it's a bound, the African bound with like that, basically, the Nazi sympathisers in the United States right and they would set of little shop all over the country tat, they would speak out against them. Franklin Roosevelt their speak in favour,
tourism and apparently they managed to get twenty thousand people at a rally. Madison square garden, once by holding index game, I think the Knicks could even get twenty thousand people come out and Madison Square, but We were so unpredictable and radical here in the United States that even the Nazi Party officially distance itself from these guys, Oh yeah, officially, unofficially they recruited from their ranks specifically for operation Pistorius Yes, sir, what he he found, some some blue collar deeds all, but two of them had been Nazi party members, which was a good start for dropped off right off the bat and that left him with what would be eight deeds. They divided up into two teams of four one leader on each side and three dupes below them with with cap at the
the whole thing year, even though he did didn't come over to the United States for the operation. He was just sort of running the training. Initially yeah knew it was watching him. Do she jitsu? I guess so but so here in their hilarious Germany. I do and you really, I don't think so. It seems a little like you know: neighbourhood Ninja, camp kind of what they had to train in some sort of hand to hand combat now the saboteur sooner than I need to know that their dismissal to blow up a bridge, but what, if they get caught the middle? I gotta like turning runaway jujitsu somebody down now you just Rhine. If your saboteur well, that's some foreshadow marine. There So I hear the players are now on once on team. One we'll call it team eyes about that. They want church. Ok Don T mind she had the leader, George John Dash, and he was thirty and he was the oldest sky.
And so all of thirty nine and he was picked because he was on you. Smooth talker, and he was apparently just and very american, which was you gonna sticks and Germans over there to be saboteurs is probably get if they can pass themselves off his just regular good Americans right plus also you have the added benefit of not having to teach them to speak. Colloquise English you're in there. Already know the terrain. They know the culture rather Coney Island right the hot dog, exactly ass. They were all good practice. Was I count Dracula now? Well, my german heard Salvador. So that's why they want
the guys who had already spent time in America plus eight. It also showed a pre, significant loyalty to year homeland, the Father way, and in this case where, when war breaks out, you go back to where the war is being fought. Sure supported me, so the Ike, selecting from the Austrians institute roles of emigrants who were also boon of members. It seemed like a trusted knock at the park group of guys yeah die. She was, he actually did like you said, in the german army and what one came to America, waiter and then and Thirty nine said you know what duty calls going back home Right the second guy on the first team Earnest Peter Burger. He was speedily smart guy and he had an interesting story because he was.
He had long been a nazi since they set as Minos long as Hitler himself had been, and not yet whose per the beer how push. Yet he was a which color or what it was the doktor you heard of Nazi. He really was, and he actually had fled Germany for the United States because he was afraid, he's gonna get brought upon brawling charges that right The fight any stay there for about six years and then worked as a machinist in the MID West even during the National Guard, the- U S National Guardian, and became an american citizen Europe, and then he went back after Hitler gain power while he went back, but mainly because of the great depression is there a year by mean it coincided, but he was like this place thanks now here in Hellas, empowerment and go become a browser, rough people on the street, which is what he did pretty much because he really did love to fight and the brown shirts were per
in those needed along knives by Hitler and his cronies yeah. And dumb burger with it was burger right, yeah. He he he managed to not be killed. Yeah during that period, yeah so he was working with his body earns room of the storm. Troopers exists business right, Rome was actually killed during the per day was oh yeah. They they put. Apparently they put a pistol the cell with them and gave in ten minutes the kill himself, and he said if you want me dead, I ask, and I have to do it himself and they came back and with their use, he ain't Hilary like what is going on here and the guy was standing there with the shirt off with his chest, bared to him. Yeah, supposedly they d shot him in the chest point blank and the head of the branches went down so that didn't work out for him
No, but burger did survive this year. He did survive in their went off the college, but then he wrote a of the paper about the guest gestapo that was not too favourable and he got sent to a concentration camp for his efforts, for seventeen months right and then when he was released, they said you can come out, for you have to go off with the army. They harassed his wife, it was. I dont know that he was the best pick right now. That, I think, is whether we were dragging idea to turn in prison in enforcing the army. Sure we also killed his boss yeah her asked his wife We trust him as a service as a team of one of eight right. So Berger is right hand, man to team on team iced tea might a I envy. Ok, Then there are others. There are two other deeds Heinrich Hank right right name and Richard Clearing
yes, and they were a couple of machinist. Sue were a couple of machinery. In America for awhile back and were selected for this team. You have it they, they went back to Germany started working at Volkswagen, and now I guess- we're probably eager to leap on Topsecret job like this. It's probably appealing to these guys. So there was team. I will talk about team, Try right after that. Here's the thing saving with Geico, was almost better than playing pick up basketball, because there's always that guy who joins your game He never passes the rock he constantly bricks theories and who completely you and then put his hands up and say no foul, no foul with Geico, it's easy to switch
save on car insurance, no the vacant fake, an ankle sprain because you're absolutely exhausted. So which in save with Geiger it's almost better than sport, so check tossed about the smiling face. Then teams why well, Josh TEAMS Vi was led by a man named Edward Curling, more Edward. I guess who is I take. It is the only competent person in this entire mission yeah. He seemed like a right He came to a little more than the rest here. Tiredly speaking, you seem like a criminal genius Thea. That's good, so he was also one of had gone to America. Nineteen, twenty nine to work, Mary a german woman there and then they work together is Butler or and cook for a little while many said, I know it Like you anymore, I think I want an american woman, so he did that.
And then, when the war broke out, he tried to sail to Germany. So I'm not sure if you mastermind either another thing about it a lot of initiative, well good point and he was turned by the time, the coastguard, finally made it to Germany in. In forty any ended up working at the Ministry of propaganda. Yeah guess, with turtles, are a sure, and when he tried to sail, to Germany that one time clearly had a guy with a named. Was it Herbert new power? I believe I was Newberry on his boat yeah. He was on that crew, and so he would have been, back as well, so that he was a natural fit right. Any know each other curling, actually recommended Herman New Bower to be part of a team he's like he can hope to sail wealthy and it is in the wound,
First, there was the youngest member of his crew at twenty. Two is Herbert, helped and he moved to the U S when he was just five years old and sought another. He was a great joy guess he was pretty we American, and you know he was also so smart or an ovum put it this way experience was not experienced a little low, green, yellow, wet behind the ears. And then the last guy Varner Theale, he said This prize is a member of the wound and he was working in a war plant. So is weird hodgepodge. Ragtag group of guys were selected. Only two people are the whole original twelve who had been in the military. Yet this sounds like a movie in the making, oh yeah, but it just if it would have had a great third act. It probably would already
the movie, oh yeah, yeah, I'd, say and yet is lacking a third I imagine like when there's someone had tried to develop this, like the sounds great so far, it's gone great and then that's audience near shelf it. So these guys are pretty good sense of the affair school, yeah tailored you and all sky George dashes like low kick look at our my hip. Yeah. They were also studying like explosive techniques right wiring, not just explosive jujitsu taken but real explosive right, wiring detonation timers, all this stuff. They ve got to go on field trips to power plants, bridges and canals and finally like where the weak points were, and all of this took place over in intensive eighteen days of trading. That's it. They got. Eighteen days,
training here had apparently dash the leader of tea minds, wasn't even read one account. They said he basically kind of snooze through most of it, which would go on to explain a few things later. It's hilarious, yeah, eighteen days and you came in and stay awake. They learn how to build something seriously. Am I on May twenty? Third, they were given their assignment in these, were I mean this is pretty smart. The assignments were there. They have good plan in place, small teams of It's a dash. Esteem was assigned to destroy quite a few things: Hydro, electric power plants, it Niagara falls. Said: the Aluminum Company of America, factory in Illinois, Tennessee New York, three planets and the Philadelphia sought companies cry like plant, which apparently supplies Rama, two materials
women and rivalries they want wanted. A guy for aluminum was because aluminum production, the United States, the output, was greater than all of Europe's. Both sides, access and No, I'm sorry! All of the axis is aluminum production put together, An aluminum is a very valuable thing during war, easier to make aircraft friendlier ease it to make the interior of ships. Apparently you use it for everything from like a Marie's like the feel ration king cancer, while not tin cans. Aluminum here but all this stuff comes in Haiti and wheels, if you can't sure pinwheels like a good one, if you, but those men, even put your finger off of one of those things. Yet, if you can cripple alumina production, you can put a serious delay in the war time effort yells. Mark play, and then they are also told to bomb locks on the Ohio River, but
in Louisville Kentucky in Pittsburgh. Yes said disrupting transportation, sure that would have been a huge the office. They would just step of Vondra Pack Mule that was supposed to the appalling abode along the canal kaboom. So the sea minds themes why curling steam they said. Are you guys? We want you to concentrate on railroads because we saw during the mayor and so or destroying railroads is a great way to cripple and army sure they blew. I don't think that's where they got the idea. You know long been a wartime thing to destroy railroads. I see. It's when you railroad Station at Newark right the poor. She been section of railroad track near out Tuna Pennsylvania just speak in Ohio Railroad parts of it. The New York Central Railroads, Hell Gate Bridge, canals and Saint Louis Cincinnati Ohio. And the water supply system of New York Right
and they were also told the carrier acts of general terrorism to scare people in general, yeah bombing, jewish own department stores, locker room said: train stations just briskly format real fear and make Americans feel like while America's being struck year were vulnerable right, and so the guy said. Ok, let's do this and they ve they ship down on two different subs from Laureate France. You boats baby. This is Germany, the ok. What does he boats? Uber yeah, they left on you five, eighty four in you, two or two, and them they had for each team had four boxes like dynamite, another explosives and then a fourth box of things like timers in debt, leaders and wiring, and all that stuff sausages for this sitting,
we gotta go hungry, amateur, yes, Germans! After all, right. They also had a lot of money about a million dollars today at the time each group at fifty grand and they the distance travel into live in deprived people and pay folks off by in cash. So they had via with equal to about a million dollars today in cash on them, nothing greater than a fifty dollar bill itself out of money. Here, like physically a lot of money, each member was given nine thousand five of which there was his very funny like tea. Leaders gonna hold on the and you can keep for. Self in your money belt, and only carry like four hundred and fifty in your pocket right and that should be enough dough to carry out this plan was the job and then the year the team leaders also got handkerchiefs yeah that had the names and addresses and things of contacts friendly in invisible ink written on the air.
Bona fide spy yet being irish terrorism operation again great movie in the making so far. So the then again, I think he said before that, like Hitler was planning on sending several waves or wave after wave. Apparently the schedule is every six weeks there can someone one who teams to United States yeah. I got I mean it was a really smart in scary plan. Yet because catching you know a tiny team, afore guys who can assimilate as Americans, or at least good german Americans? That's that's tough to catch. Yes,. So check. Yes, you two or two and which actually left two days after you, five eighty four showed up off like fifty yards off the shore line of long island That's just frightening the thing about yet there is a german you, both fifty yards off shore of Long Island
I know June twelve. Nineteen forty two showed up there in the evening and it felt his out its cargo of boxes of explosives and savage. There's an fiducia as their rowing, the shore they They are wearing like german military uniforms yard and fully in this didn't make its innocence to me. I will, if you caught in playing closed behind enemy lines. The rules of war state that you can be. On site, but if you're caught as aid german marine living prisoner of war and yet How did he said? How is taking a chance out addressed is an American no. I mean like I, I think there were smart out addressed. I would try to assume not been like I'm a german marine. You you're supposed to take me hostage right, but I,
Thank you. I would have you know my own awhile and yet come on. Let's go I'm taking you hostage, whereas if the guy had been like yours by, I am allowed to kill you right here and now he added, I don't agree with them, but hey everyone has their own rules when it comes to sabotaging okay, so sabotaging Yes, advertising now kidnapping and I've learned recently that that was of that's. That word is of recent provenance and you know that, like it didn't come into use until the beginning of the twentieth century, they make sense. I would have thought it was a fairly all were near Nope. Did we just think of sabotage, or do we just start calling at that like? Did they not used to sabotage back in the day? He I think they d started, calling at their local so on the services
ashes team team ants tonight and they show up on the shore and their wearing again german military uniform at which they took off really quickly very quickly without your ear once they saw that you know. Ok, we made it yet the operation has begun. They change right. Yeah, they change clothes and they started the they put on their. I left New York shirts and they started digging big holes in the beach today to buried. These munitions, so they could come back as needed when they wanted to blow something new up. Yes, the get scared that stuff around
no, they needed a stash everything and go and cool out and make sure that no one was like onto a more any thing like that men come back and get it like. You said: if they need a year, the plan was to meet up for the two teams to meet up in Cincinnati on July. Fourth, right for a baseball game is what I'm imagining yeah yeah the reds versus the braves dont know where the rays were then probably Milwaukee sure. Ok, I don't think they might do it, I'm until the sixties. I was trying to think of Boston, but they were that was long before so the team eyes to reserve was changing, they just landed. They were in the midst of changing when they reduced by a coastguard me yeah. Well, one of them was the dash climbed over a down and The other guys were still bearing and changing that their clothes and he walked up and those coastguard. Dear John gum standing right there and you like what you do in many places
I'm the guy was like all nothing here and I hear you apparently was kind of handling things when burger comes over and burger thought that so the team. I had been rowed ashore by two german sailor yet and I guess burger lost track of german sailors and assume that they were still there and, for some reason, is only dash for guys, plus the two made a dash had climbed over the dune to talk to one of the sailors. Yet so burger comes up and ask the question in German yeah and the Coast Guardsman John colonists like why are you speaking German, were at war with Germany? What's going on here and at that point dashed tells forgetting yea said you fool, go back to the others right,
guys twilight what others wait a minute. It's a dash. His story was that they were fishermen, strain and fishermen and before he got really suspicious Colin guy from the coastguard said. Well, if you can, fishermen, that's not my job. Will we ever coastguard like House Party House right up the beach with just sort of some pizza, come with me, eradicating pizza and chill out and dashes like well, don't have any idea. Thus, yet we don't fishing permits either right. We're gonna get in trouble counts like well you're telling a guy from the coastguard that so you're in trouble, first of all, but secondly, that strikes me as weird of other time. Burger comes up ass. His question in german and Dutch sees the writing on the wall and tells tells COIN Willie do you have a mother and Collins's? Yes, he goes to have a father says. Yes, injustice
well, then I wouldn't want to kill you yeah. So how about I give you some money? You can forget that this ever happened. First to give him a hundred bucks and Collins's nope. Yet he says no you- and he said he into giving him too in sixty dollars in common basically realize that something was going down and made is needed. Just take this money I like em down with the take right and get out of here, so so he does. Does he skipped idols and then oh, but not before this very key piece, actual Ojeda dash grabbed his flashlight before he left and shine on his own face and said you will be meeting me in east sometime soon you know who I am because like now, I don't know you aren't you sometimes words, John Davis, which was a lie. Well. I was his real alias for the mission, though so, like you actually Israel. Alias,
What's your name and Collins said Frank Collins, which is a lie which is alive pretty quickly and basically he scrambled back and dash came back governs like little seeing their guys. I totally took care of it should be a big deal. Don't worry about painted Ituri, Sixty box yeah we're good here so Buddy Finnish, bearing these boxes, which they did and Colin ran off enlighten grab some of his fellow coastguards meant by the time they got back. Team eyes had left caught a train, but apparently- and this is another thing so- the you both dropped off team eyes, hidden, grounded itself on a sandbox yeah. I was sitting there like trying to get back out to sea because, though was it right back and forth in your chair was that I thought it was that the method they had all the guys in their city, I just move to the large size or thereby exactly yet and finally, the
I came in just enough for them to dislodge themselves and go back out to sea just in time, but apparently Cohen, and the other coastguards minutely back caught sight of this, you both having back out to see that no good right, yeah, no German, you off the coast of Long Island does ran into some guys who speaking Germany failed to pay you off and then all of a sudden in the moonlight you can see the ghostly outlines of four freshly Doug holes in his hand, yeah, listen What's in there, you wonder a farm couldn't find us all that about the boat being stuck, but I couldn't find if that was like, if could have gotten away. You know it could have all change. They may not have been that suspicious. I think they are What use are greatly speech? There is definitely coming back, but seeing the U boat was just icing on the cake, exactly so the other due to hop date. Well, they dug up the holes and they found the stuff and said okay. This is a huge
yeah, we defend a true of explosives in german military, uniform buried on the beach like sixty miles from New York. Yes, sweet by ten twenty three that morning, those boxes in the Office of New York City Police, Captain John Bayliss, who then promptly got in touch FBI in by noon that day, thirteen hours after they had arrived. FBI had all that stuff in custody and J Edgar Hoover said: there's a we need get a black out on the news that he as don't get wise to this threat, and we need to get the largest Manhattan FBI, history, underwear and they did, and we will explore that in all the ways the F b I got some lucky breaks on this right after These methods- I dont Big America, has ever gone back to the way that it was.
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wherever you get your podcast all right, so team Einstein, recap here they are in Manhattan. Shopping. It may cease. Of course. Yes, a lot, All they had with them was the clothes, the civilian clothes they brought and all that cash, those it everything else is very back. The beach put is now in F B. I custody unbeknownst to these guys that's right, so they go shopping at Macy's. They split into they said was split up into pairs. Gazettes makes sense here and I'm Hank checked into the hotel, Martinique Dash and Berger. I went to the Governor Clinton, hotel, Governor Bill Clinton and I don't think so and unless he was named after the hotel, hurry. I never saw he always finally governing its up We die
and burger met. He he summoned burger to his hotel room upon a tall floor and opened the window and said I've got a plan. And I'll, tell you about it, and if Europe your on board, but if you're not, then one of us is leaving through the door. One of us is leading to the window. He basically threw down the gauntlet. Berger to Berger. I allow I didn't realize that year and so burger. He basically said I would like to turn and saboteur sabotage the sabotage run and go against Germany and because the miracle can agree. So dash was going to kill burger, forgetting go along with it. That's what and apparently burger, had the choice to like you or you can you can defeat, you throw you out the window where you can triumph and be the living victor yeah? So I think
Berger was just the on board and they said that in this article it dash. Probably was telling the truth that he was. He was really. This was his idea from the beginning. So here's the here's. The question like historically speaking, dash, has been. He is a genuine betrayer of this mission, sure but when he became a genuine betrayer of the mission is, is issues still getting this history, not article either, for he he knew it but or they even landed here and there, that is why he showed is facing, gave his real, Alias to Right John calling on the beat which makes it or his encounter with John calling on the beach rattle them enough that he was like this is never gonna. Work were already already dead in the water. That's a quick turn! So now I'm going to go him betray it yeah. I say that he was in a note from the beginning: that's what that's my feeling kazoo snoozing instead,
Scope dishonor. Now it seems like a really quick, like they just land on the beach. Five minutes later meets again he's like a weight of it. It is often gonna betray Germany. It seemed a little too hasty maybe head nerves of spaghetti near a cook again even so he says here's the plan Conversely, dashed Berger, I am he said a Monday. I'm gonna go to her. They closed the windows. I know exactly what the dinner meanings. God and he said, I'm gonna get. You are you're gonna Washington me with J Edgar Hoover should be pretty easy to get that meeting the man himself yeah here. He wears nothing buddy, and he said you go back to the other two guys in disorder occupy. Then for a little while I'm going to do you see questing, a meeting with the FBI, the head of the FBI right so Burger says: let's do this dust is ok! It's Sunday, and just as they make his way to decent until Thursday morning. Yes, instead,
goes to remember. He was a waiter in America what he called the he called the F B. I first at least reign. The reason why I called for, since he was a little worried because apparently backing them in a training camp in the woods cop Falter Cobb had said you guys, don't Worry we have a man on the inside of the FBI, so dash was worried that if he called worthy to showed up at the end, quarters he talked to that. One guy right out of all the F B, I guys he would have, though, that level bad luck which, from what I understand there, was something of a good concern for her to have. So he called the New York Bureau first and said I am a german due to get information for J Edgar Hoover. I'm coming and then he hung up any went to a club for waiters and then played Pinnacle for like two straight days: yak it. I think he was rather gambling. I that's what I think because, if I'm not mistaken with the map, he ended up with more money than he came with her. Yet
so we were in gamble with sabotage money except me that guy is some serious illness, prettiest So eventually he said I gotta go to Washington. This pinnacle game has dried up. Though, he had thought me, a seller Express for Washington, which I highly recommend by the way man train travels. Often if we re regional train travellers, delight such a delight and especially for my Boston to New York. He just right along the coastline there in its lovely it is lovely sailboats in Cape cod houses. Points. Lobster roles near my good stuff are it's a dash has arrived by train. Finally, by this point, teams VI has waned. Right. There isn't a driver yeah the shop in Florida, and then I could do for real, and I imagine pontiff Diedre Beach and nineteen. Forty three was pretty Loki scenario for sure, yeah, yeah think so,
so they are twenty five miles south of Jacksonville. They bury their creates, no sweat hop on a bus, go to Jacksonville. They split up from that point too went distance and Annie to it to Chicago yeah. I mean there's no mass. Yet it wasn't like any normal was calling the f B. I like they were in its win, it basically why they should have done team, I should have done their recon beforehand. The U boat should not pulled up next to a coastguard station. First of all, thought of anyone think yet because it coastguards issues like half a mile away. Yet was there maybe the bed until so dash gets the DC checks into the Mayflower hotel. Here. This is the same day that killings group lands in Pont Evader, yet a big day huge there and he NBC said, are aiming at a call, the F B. I again because got me with over any reach
Dwayne trainer and, of course, trainer says you know this is probably not a legitimate call. We get these kind of weird calls all the time, but just in case I must go pick him up yet listless see. What's gonna is slow day had yeah exactly so. They gonna pick up the German and they bring him to the Justice Department and am dash said that he is basically bout from agent the agent. Every is kind of a hot potato, nobody wind and deal with them. Finally, he convinced these guys. To end up in the Office of Mickey LAD, who was running the that for the spies and the head of the spies was now sitting in his office yet telling him he's the head of the spot and he still didn't quite believe him here until dash said, oh well here. Let me show you this in dumped out eighty forth
Thousand dollars on lads desk in LAD said I'm so please you came in today correctly come with me, dash. Here's here says idea is I want to talk to Hoover himself because I'm gonna be here. And I might even get like a medal of honor out of the three like maybe Jack, we'll have me over to his house for dinner here, who knows what could come of this? What did you take parade? The true those all the time back, then yeah. So this the F b I get some talking, he does get to meet Briefly church, but a couple of other agents take his deposition, which lasts for thirteen hours before he finished he had to. About Berger and where Burger was, and they went picked up burger. Yet he like, while he was still telling the story here, were already on bet. Burgers hotel staking him yet so the eye before they picked a burger. They were staking out like he said, and they watch Burger go meet Karen and Hank Into
This arrested all three of us may now, all of a sudden they had team ice in custody within like a day of dash walking in the F B. I headquarters didn't get so offered him act now now, When the team leader betrayed you yet like you're you're in trouble, you're just so June. Twenty second Hoover wrote to F the hour and said you know what sir we we ve got all the members of this group that landed on long island pretty and here we are awesome. He didn't mention that is a guy turned himself in. Tell them where everyone was right in so after was just thought that Hoover had done like a bang of job, basically is the way to go. Wait. Do your job exactly he'd wide pretty much so Dash had no real leader, anything about team spy here, but he did have a handkerchief head content.
An invisible ain't can surprisingly had blown his nose in it right at disappointed, but He couldn't remember how you're supposed to get the invisible ink to become visible now. Luckily, F B, I had a crack team of lab tax on this thing. And they figured it out we certainly have the names and addresses of all the german context for these teams right there in their hands, thanks to dash so they're all obviously staked out just waiting on team ice or inciting spy to meet up with these people right which they did, but first to spy did their weird stuff like Herbert hopped. He was in Chicago, where again he lives, since he was five and help cited that he would buy a pony a car. He had. He went to his parents house right now, all this data The EU has thereby scar yet, and he proposed to his girlfriend he Remember he had left
the war and he was an able bodied man over age eighteen year and so the local draft board one no, where he was so you jobs by FBI, headquarters to clear up his draft problems as I'm back Sorry, I've already registered with my local draft board no need to, track me any more unjust. In all american boy, damn the F B, I was like yeah sure thank you for coming by right, and then tell them on the way out then led them to at least one other team member right yeah and wild who's going on curling and Werner Theale went to New York, then met up with a name helmet liner, because they wanted to have sex with a late, so liner hooked him up with the missed his mistress said here have sex with her and is a great thing. And he ended up by travelling without woman, curling did and within a couple of days
after dash surrendered, they spotted curling because there are trailing him at a bar. Where he met with zeal and they rested both of those guys right so too, non teens by Herbert helped. I'm sorry three down at this point right how to calm down in Chicago, he had only one left at this point was Herman New Bower right New Bower spent his time. Was it in New York. I think he wasn't chick ok, you're, probably right. He just went to the movies over and over again Did he was apparently lonely, so he sought out some friends of his wife, whom he hadn't really met before, You told him everything all the man who gave him his money for safe keeping, unbelievable but kept enough to go to the movies about. So basically, a dollar bright and was popcorn, ok, dollar. Fifty here
Then he was. I thinking just come back from the movies when the F B, I picked him up right. Yet so ash remember is sure that, like he's going to be fed it as a hero that J Edgar Hoover is probably like thinking about him right, then yeah he's dislike basically like Ralphie in a Christmas story to stay dreaming about like how his we carried IRAN, everyone shoulder, he probably should a pen. So him he's the reason why this went south because he said you know what I'm term, riding with America. Sure the thing is Hoover eating here, Jane Hoover now he did. He not Karagwah Hoover was taking the credit for all son. Rather, I see them very the right, he couldn't let dash be known as this guy who had come and dumb given in this hall, on a platter right or else Hoover would look like an idiot and dash might very well have been held.
Mr Lamy, collaborators rather than a criminal after everybody under the F B. Dash and dash must have been quite surprised. Why are they rested on? But they said: hey just go along with this you'll get a full presidential. Pardon after six months are really this sort of play along with the arrest- and he is like- ok, I see so put me in the jail with the Guys, the eight hour now yet exactly I didn't want to get his light. Yeah sure workers that job with Hoover's plan to keep it all quite still, exact, was working on great for Hoover. It didn't work out great for dash the others chuck now so Sdr wanted to make sure that he could get the death penalty and that this can be kept quiet. So he ass. He formed a military tribunal to try these guys and it was the first one since Lincoln had been assassinated. Yeah. What's the big deal so
Prosecutor was Attorney General Frances Biddle Chief Defense was Colonel Kenneth Royal, they defence argued initially for a civilian trial that was quickly scrapped and they said now we're going to move forward with the tribunal and held the trial, the Justice Department in Washington during the month of July, nineteen, forty two and basically said we know the whole does not can be much of a trial, fellas right, We know everything because you told us everything he's include your coming here to sabotage and blow up our junk and you're in big trouble right in the prosecutor sought the death penalty as expected. But it was up to at the yard to decide when and where and to do that he had to have a transcript of the trial and when he got the transcript of the trial, he came obvious that Hoover hadn't really done anything. Yeah really if they are never call them out on it in public now
It was a nice thing to do. I guess because that would it has been further embarrassment for, like the whole country, Anna yeah, so they kept quiet. But at this point it was news all over the country they weren't keeping why it with the press and the american public was way. Favor of the death penalty. In fact it open letter published in one newspaper calling for them to be fed to gargantua the gorilla at the wrangling brother circuits, because it's very gargantua to eat those Germans. Well, instead, they electrocuted six of them on August, eighth of the district jail in Washington Dc Trade, including former helped, who is just like founded upon yak there. I just want to see my parents Berger and an dash were spared the death penalty because they basically had a hard time proving in court that they didn't. You know fully intend to betray the operation yeah.
So they did not get electrocuted. They were sentenced. A burger too hard labour for the rest of his life. And dash was given thirty years, but President Truman commuted their sentences, release them and deported them had them ship to West Germany. West Berlin said don't come back now, get out and the other guys are buried in a potter's field by the way, an outside Washington. Yes, so it is now the DC municipal water treatment plants early where there were buried strike now in their part of that system, gets and sewed dash hamburger go back to Germany and burger starts like feeding the media. The story is ice. Cream
five years later in the lane right in blames dash for the deaths of these other six german patriots, sure who were saboteurs. I and dash tried to publicly clear himself: three first sought a pardon in America he could come back yet he really want to get a chair from India. Can imagine- and America said now we're not going to do that- we're not going to pardon. You were still mad at you, Germany said were mad at you too, and so he just kind of fate the public spotlight, yet here hinder dying. Ninety ninety two at the age of eighty nine and I didn't see any follow up for a for Berger. I think he was it quite as vilified is. Dutch was right for sure, but that was not the last time
german sent saboteurs ashore. There is at least one other ill fated attempt in nineteen forty four another german submarine. These are expensive boats, man that they are really taking a mass of risk to drop off a couple of saboteurs near, but they did it again off of a main in snow storm and too former american residence, german americans- were really were sent off under the main coast no sir. They were seen by a local boyscout using a compass during this, turn on the side of the road and the boy scout was suspicious, so he traced their tracks all the way back to the shore line they come out of nowhere and it's like I'm gonna call a police state, scouts actually got these yeah, that's pretty
What's ironic is one of these german american savvy tours was a boy scout himself? There was a boy scout on Boyscout tattling, while and they got picked up immediately. As far as everybody knows that ass time, Germany ever tried that yeah. I think the idea was that Hitler was like this. This is embarrassing at once just focus on the rocket programme, yet we can't keep sending guys to the United States who immediately get there and start doing stupid that great giving themselves up here. Currency, mom and dad see a movie plain pinnacle. So that's it! That's the stew. The time the Nazis invaded Florida and New York and main, if you want to know more about that check out history, net check out damn interesting check out all sorts of stuff to search it. You'll find also to call things.
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