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men got on my snow shoes and am walking in a wheat field, making geometric Barons Haven in the snow shoes loud sort of life snowshoe. I could see that that we work yet still hanging longer yeah, but it's easier. You can do something off your hands. Why you're? So did you ever have the lead Zeppelin Box set from like ninety ninety, my college remitted. Yet so you familiar with the crab circle, Syria and the suggestion that by led Zepplin there it was their Zepplin that was responsible for all of them. I was I was efforts here. I didn't pick up on his on the cover of the box. It there's like this autumn. Very real life crop circle, the formation and then the shadow of the Zeppelin floating over it. I don't think I noticed the shadow over yeah. Ok

yeah. That was, though, a thing like that was up. One took responsibility for the right and by the way we got a lot of responses on how they got the nameless Zepplin. So thank you to the hundreds of people there were they held in where the e fear that a went didn't want people to think it was leads up when exactly extols the Zeppelin in front the leads Zepplin anyway. It turns out that its complete fabrication that the lead zeppelins Applin, was responsible crop circles, but that's one of the few suggestions that have been made for what makes crop circles as really strange topic. Frankly, because it's been out for about a quarter of a century, how crop circles are made,

makes them, and yet there is still a lot of people called Sir seriously just year after Series, the guy's vaguer culture there who are like now this this does people, that's that's the whole cat. It's a hoax right. There is for like eighty percent of crop circles, with least twenty percent unaccounted, yeah. I don't even called a hoax. I just call it art well yeah, so I saw somewhere one point. Somebody saves the most scientific most science based art. There is because the stuff that cop circles are made of a lot of them is some really impressive. Euclidean geometry yeah, some smart people are behind these. What I like to call art for not just a bunch of dummy

I can run on a cornfield no, but they are people, yes, they are and what kind of spoiled it. So, if you wanted to find out who makes crap circles its art, you can turn the episode off. But if you do you're gonna miss out on some Carson cool interesting, If you ask me here, and what I think is weird is that, despite the fact that it is definitely not aliens and other stuff that people propose Morgan and all that is, there When the people came out and said now: we ve been making crop circles for years. Some

like none about there being paid to say that right, yeah is aliens. In fact that something that you run up against with conspiracy theories, those just admitting that year responsible, you suggest that you, yes somebody's put you up to admitting here you're it's this information, basically the tennis. What a lot of people said, a lot of people say it and my five and the reason they say tat. My five is because if you start tracing the history of crop circles, they originated basically there stood in England, specifically in a couple of counties in England yeah I mean not only originated, but I think, gum. Ninety percent of all crop circles have existed in Southern England, yeah even other, very innovative that someone like Japan and the United States and some other the Europe, but yet ninety percent over in Southern England, they clearly earn

fired in that area to undertake the process of circle art exactly for one reason or another who knows well, I can tell you how it started out, yet so the crop circles, if you're assyriologists, you will point two of the sixteenth century, maybe when somebody's like the first, what could be described as the crop circle? accounted for, I couldn't find anything back that up, but early in the sixteenth century, that's worthy. First description came from. I did find in the seventeenth century in the sixteen hundred there's a would cut of something called the moaning devil.

It's got devil and is clearly making a crop circle, but there's a pretty good explanation for the whole thing. Well, yeah. He I don't understand how this became some sort of weird pseudo proof that they had crop circles back then, because if you look at the World CUP is Satan with a safe and he is clearly cutting down the coroner, something some wheat harvest right, but in hiding yeah it's not it's an that's a distinction. Crop circles are cut their like you know it's a corn stock that is laid down but not damaged. Supposedly right they yield the pressure without breaking so this is. This is just complete, to me- and this is even more so the there's an explanation on the woodcutter itself. We are two story. I am basically a a man box at the price that he was quoted by a labourer to harvest

green and the man said. I would rather have the devil harvest my green, the new, and so when he woke up the next morning, he was quite surprised to find that the devil is harvesting screen, any probably went to Hell for it that was the whole story behind the moaning devil, I fear assyriologists. This is the first evidence of crop circles, which kind of says alive: yes, but something there, kind of pop up. That's a little. A little less easily explained came on in eighteen. Eighty in the issue of in an issue of nature, there is an Englishman named John Rand, Capron or Capron views from Surrey. Any said they found a field of wheat that appeared to have been knocked about as if by wind here and they say, there's a crop circle yeah, maybe it's possible. He said that it is to him. He thought it was cyclonic, wind action and a game again. The other explanation

later, but one of them is that they are the result of like a toy NATO's recycling yeah, but what it? What he didn't say was that it was like a perfect circle and others were conference. Was you know? I mean it could have just been a windy spot where some stuff was knocked down right right, the exact you're, even sales in the shape of an egyptian arc. Anything her head, or an alien smoking part. That's a real one really here, so that those who, like the earliest evidence of crop circles, the sixties. The first modern idea of a crop circle came about in Australia and there is supposedly a depression in a bunch of grass a circular depression. And it had been associated with a UFO citing and made the rounds in the media.

And then the lot of peoples. It is probably a tornado recycling or something like that, but there was a dude who happened to be in Australia added I'm when it was being reported on who, as you know, big hub in everything and down his name, was Dave. Crop Circle Dave Crop Circle, don't let it now, I'm sorry his buddies. His name is Dave, Doug, Bower, dahlia and dug Bower when he got back Australia. He was hanging out with a friend of his one night in eighteen. Seventy eight drunk there they'll just come out and admitted they were drunk at the pump and he told his body about that and they said. Wouldn't it be hilarious if we went out and made our own crop circle and died, Dave said: That will be really hilarious so much so, let's go do it so they figure.

And they made the first crops are going. Nineteen. Seventy eight like the first caught circular. First hopes cops, are girl or you call art was made in eighteen. Seventy eight and what's funny about the whole thing, is they may these things for years? Hundreds of him yes, but say the first couple dozen. Maybe nobody noticed here because they made him on fire fields and then they finally figured out. Why or if we may one I'm like a field that was on an incline. They made thou one and all of a sudden. The whole crop circle. Paranormal phenomenon took off like a rocket nineteen. Eighty one year in people, Carla, obviously in started making our own crop circles all over England in all kinds of coal designs by the ninety Ninetys? It was a genuine tourist attraction, Then farmers were saying. Come to my firemen repay me, some shillings and come look at my

circle. Apparently they were charging to offset the damage done to their crops. By so many people flocking to these farms yeah shower. Could it didn't even to crops that is not the others possible? The the actual cap circle itself, yeah yeah. I think it can damage That I mean the hallmark of it is that the green is bent but not broken. So as long as it's not broken, there still pretty good chance to continue growing retreated, grow back up right or something, but I'm sure, there's tons of broken grain in a crop circle. Here I mean I guess we should about the design say out most of the times are circular, but not always all sorts of different shapes. Now started out a circular either singles or doubles or triples or quadrupled, and sometimes there connected sometimes they're. Not they are usually bed one way for a while, so either laying down

clockwise counterclockwise, or if they get super crafty, they can be clockwise for ten feet and then counterclockwise and from the sky. You see these different. Can I swear patterns. Yes, I like a layered, sorely pattern through oppressive. Yet in and again the started really kind of to take off in the eighties and throughout the nineties, and they became more more popular in more more widespread media and among people who watched the x files and again that the Ninetys were a deeply paranoid decade year because of the impending millennial millennium. So I think that kind of really help the the pop Larry of crop circles, explode yeah, there's a lot of people are like these are signs from aliens are either alien, leaning, yeah, like ailing spacecraft, landing and leaving these impressions waiting for us.

What is right for us, they're leaving their leaving science for answers, even a movie called side too terrible terrible movie, where I'm sorry Miss Gibson about this very thing So there is a lot of people who bought into like then, as as the awareness of crop circles grew, so did the complexity of the where you did have people who were sitting down and coming up with like really incredible math yeah, I'm going out and doing in a cop circle, form yeah and some people use that, like that, it's it's this when it is exactly four times larger than the one below it and as evidence that it something extra Mary, and not just people who are good at figuring out and lay on the tree in math there's there's specifically,

and who kind of, I guess, provided a stumbling block to the debunking of crop circles. His name is Gerald S Hawkins and he is a retired astronomer who became a crop circle enthusiasts and he used his math skills. You analyze Bob circles and basically said I've discovered a new kind of euclidean geometry in crop circles, which implies that.

There was some non human agency creating crop circles, something advance beyond the scope of human understanding right, because if this incredibly brilliant mathematician could learn something from these something new that implied that something extra terrestrial was behind him on. His findings have been challenged time and time again, so he believed tat. He believed that it was a very serious debunking. No, no, he he confounded Dubai. He created this. He bought he did bunk here, and the thing is that the language is using. The math he's using is is real, math yeah, so the average person can come in and look at this and be like this is wrong for this. In this reason, industries of right-

and then his. I think the real give away those his work is not discussed at all in what appears to be normal, academic, math forum right. It's just it doesn't exist. It doesn't like it doesn't get any recognition, even though he publishes initial findings in like a respected math journal hasn't if this guy had discovered, You kind of euclidean geometry here it would be an intractable revolutionary yeah, and it's just not discuss here- I think that in and of itself was a pretty good example of how serious challenges but applicants sceptics in and the whole thing is continued Somebody will present a body of evidence and then nobody is either both are willing to go to the trouble debunking it here in these things, at this article is an african recommend. People read this: well it

seems like it was written by a believer here. I was pretty bad, but one thing is struck me as I'd in this article, at least is on these things are usually like their big. You know there are several hundred feet, maybe a hundred feet. It says sometimes they range from several inches here. I turn understand that. That's that's called like stepping on a piece of wheat right like how can a crop circle be several inches. There is some stuff in here that I couldn't find any support for anywhere else like their here's, a sentence for you. I knew this that the title who makes crop circles the first senses, the answer of who or what is getting these crop formations is not an easy one to answer it is. Actually it is absolutely easy to answer. Is another thing

few, even with crop circle makers claiming responsibility for hundreds of designs, hoaxes can account for all the thousands of crop circles created trick and yet again, hoaxes can account for every single one of the cop circles ever created here. I was really disappointed with this. I put in article at the barrier? Oh yeah, good eye, so we'll talk about a little more about where these are located. What kind of fields are used after the spring? Everybody we want to talk about audible, which, just so happens to be the sponsor of the audible audio pioneer award at this year's Iheart. Radio podcast towards an audible, gives you the edge by keeping you informed, inspired and entertained on the go. Right with the audible app. It's easier to get more books in your life using the time you already have listen while commute working out, doing chores anytime anywhere

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its localised for the most part in the recent localize there is that were Dave and dug lived happily, that's where they live than ever Crab circle started. So, yes, they they were. They were concentrated there that the other thing, though, unfortunately is debts were Stonehenge is yeah. Oh Crosbie, boylike sure David Douglas HURD cares. They were put up to a saying that they did it by my pipe. The real story is that Stonehenge is right. There are all kinds of fields can be used for this art, corn out barley, tobacco, weeds, my like the corn ones. I think that the makes a nice canvas. I don't know that corn on fire with the corners. I think they were corner signs right. I rise roundabout corn. I tried to make myself go to sleep with you. I wouldn't allow my hippocampus before memories of the movie.

So I guess we should cover some of the theories we covered like big foot and other things that are real too. So some beers would seriously believe We mentioned that it's an alien calling card, perhaps of the lot of eye witness reports supposedly say: oh, I saw some. I heard some strange noises saw some weird lights. Others affair famous video called the Oliver's castle. Video, where you see strange lights above yield any actually see the crop circle on video form its field, and then it just oppressors and your crops or could be seen as I ass. Its on Youtube. But that guy who made their video came out and said he shouted that its computer programs in its paint. And it's all fake, but some people

None of that guy was paid off to say that or am I five kidnapped his family exactly and made him say, but its enemies very cool looking, but that is the you know. One of the points that rational people point too is like if these things are being made, why is there a single image anywhere of it happening right? Because cameras are ubiquitous, video cameras, people, look the stuff they care about fields trying to get those images well, yet there was a very famous some operation by a group of cereals suggests to camp out at a field for several like a week or two. I believe they're back in the Eightys and Ninetys, and apparently not only did no crop circles form during the time they were camped out in that area. None didn't all of England during that time. That they were, they publicize that they were camping out,

and I'm right when the operation ended a cop circle popped up, like I think, couple football field away from where they ve been campuses. Dugan, what's his name, they they were like gone exact. Let's go metal them I another one is that I'm a lot of people say that there is this. This plasma that conform, ionized wind, basically ear the plasma vortex theory and in that it forms a cyclone its cyclic, which means that it moves clockwise. I believe here or counterclockwise, wanted to cyclonic an anti cyclical. Whichever way that they said, the the cyclone rotate the the dog and Dave started doing crop circles that rotated the other way when they re, like others, anti cyclical, perhaps thirty, making square ones so every time

There's been a real tug of war playfulness between people popping up in the media, yeah experts on crop circles saying something and the people making a crop circles doing the opposite of what those people just said to prove them wrong with their crops. Circles right after that ya think the English ever like with banks. You know, I think, there's a under current englander like cheeky mess with the establishment sort of earth, yes, a verse of art in hoaxes and pranks and seems like I admire and things carnation. Another theory is that down draught from like a helicopter, an airplane small airplane, my push it down into these perfectly shapes cheek geometric patterns, but they ve tried to recreate. Then, of course, that's not possible. Now it's not possible, but that is a theory again theirs.

Say cloned feet theory, and this was another thing in his colleague avi. Probably the most scientific theory says that crop circles are created by small car the swirling ring wine called vertices there. They send them a scientific theory. The most scientific theories that humans are making the crop circles like what is going on with this article wacky to me it is, but there is a theory, that's a theory that some people put out. They say when the when that cop circle in the Sixtys in Australia created. A lot of people said cyclone, they call a willy nilly. Did those my austrian access to know

call it a Willie Willie with here, and there was something that they said, that it is possible that they also said it could be a lot of things. Probably wasn't a? U S, oh, but that wind theory has been around for a very long time in a guy named Doktor, Terence Maiden, whose from the torn ego and storm Research organization in England in Wheelchairs yeah, he says that there is this thing called the plasma vortex theory Says the dust particles get caught in charged air spinning, and not only can they may crop circles, these this dust can glow and that accounts for the light. Seen there's the you ever yeah, I'm he's using pseudoscience to debunk even further pseudoscience yeah, I'm surprised as a doctor team.

Maiden, formerly of the tornado, swarm researcher electromagnetic radiation is another theory. Supposedly there have been strong magnetic fields measured inside crop circles and people that go to visit them report, feeling tingling sensations all over their body. I think this is explained is easy. Is he gets one that leaves electromagnetic radiation of crops are grown, stick em in the middle of one they're gonna feel a tinkling sensation. Yeah Another thing that I ran into, I couldn't find any evidence to back that statement up like whose finding electromagnetic radiation in these fields and is it being are the early reproducible. The findings there was another crop circle called the Julius set, its fractal, yet pretty cool. Again,

Using from what I could find it's, the largest ever was like gum, three hundred meters, nine hundred feet in diameter, that's enormous and its four hundred and nine circles. Disgracefully, look up the ninety ninety six Julia said school is very often, but it was right next to Stonehenge here. There's plenty of images of this crop circle with Stonehenge in the background, and apparently a lot of women who visit. It found that their menstrual cycle think that year and then some women who had already been through menopause certain menstruating again both are things that can happen Kenny without you know, aliens taking part did that happen, though, like hoo hoo documented ass, this the thing like for just saying stuff and those you can say whatever you wanted, it doesn't get, doesn't count necessarily at least now, if you're trying to explain something yeah, I think both of those things,

happen. Like I'm a forty and you know like, I think there are limits to science and their stuff. There exists beyond sciences. Capabilities to explain things Now that there are things that will understand more clearly that appear to be superstitious now dropped circles to me or not one of them they did their just not art in the ninety nine is there was a buyer physicists named Doktor, William Levin Good, who discovered that crop circles were damaged and as if they had been heeded by microwave ovens, so he says I think, they're being heated from the inside by some kind of microwave energy and deserve cunning richer Taylor from the University of Oregon. Professor

eggs, he said yeah, you can build something called a magnet drawn using stuff from like a household, hooker and twelve of battery, and you can essentially use this to create crop circles and shoot microwaves, so yeah that might be possible that they ve been heeded by microwaves, because that is another way that you can make a crop circle. He says that these crops usually have joints in the stocks like a corn stock does, and if you heated up it expands like ask horn yeah, it's gonna fall over would be funny if they also forget about, but he says I am not saying this is how they do it, but using GPS coordinates and a computer

in a design program. You can actually use one of these magna trans to do this, and that is something that possibly could happen. Gotta again. The clearest theory is that humans are doing it. We'll talk more about evidence that Ciriaco just point two and evidence that sceptics point two and then how you make an actual crops her right after this hello step, you should know listeners. Do you want a new year's resolution? That's easy to keep yes resolve to help your identity and personal info with lifelike identity theft, protection, lifelong alert, you to potential threats to or identity, and they see more than what you can see by just monitoring your own credit like your info on the dark web and that's a big deal yeah and if a problem lifelike? U S, based restoration specialists, no, the steps to take to help resolve your case after all,

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going to see a little wines that go along the field tat those are left by the tractor, their tractor tracks crops are planted in rows exactly so you can this move. In an about them and you know other planet and rose, so you can move in and about them right without stepping on the crops, exact, unlikely mentioned earlier Dave. Surely in Doug Bower came out nineteen. Anyone and said hey: we did this BBC come along. What's film a little memory, gonna show you how to do a rope and plague crop circle and parenting. One of the guys had backed up a bunch of mileage on his car. He has other through one of its true or not, but it makes for a good story and his wife was got onto minutes. Ok, what's goin on here, you cheating on me and that's why he came out said now have been cheating on you. This is why, there's all this extra mileage in another go public with it. So

maybe rooted story. They were the only three people in the world who knew about that for a while. Patently they went public because the government like people had bought into this lock stock and barrel, like there is its ufos, possibly that we're doing like bright. Like smart People were talking about this. The media was covering it like these ufos and these guys are just sitting back laughing and apparently the queen had a book our summer reading list there was released by your press people that included like some crop circle. Spirits like you are following analysis of the crops. Was around the world. What was going on so the queen was remiss in these two guys in the guise wife or just sitting. Laughing at the time of their lives in an apparently, the british government was about to conduct an investigation, and these guys were like we don't need the light taxpayers waste their money on this. So let's go forward and they came forward and light in September

ninety ninety one year and apparently within days they were on good morning America showing the world how to do this stuff and a lot of people started doing it after the yunkers like this kind of fun, I'm an artist as well- and you say you do it others in different ways and get a magnet drawn. Naturally, the most conventional way is, like I said, the rope and plank so you gonna cheese, aspiring to choose a field. You gonna creature, little designers could be a circle. It could be the mental bright said For the Julia said whatever it is, you want to put it down on paper yeah, because you know it is math and you have to work it out. You have to have a pretty good eye for or brain for design. I guess to draw something on a page and make it hundreds of feet across like these recounted people, you're gonna get your field n you. Basically you basically

it is a human compass, exactly like a math compass that used to draw circle, merit compass to show you which way north is you're gonna put one person in the middle and that's gonna, be there Essentially the little point a man, you use rope and you're gonna mark off your for opposite marks as the circle in You're gonna get the guy in the sinner robe. If someone on the outside Europe, in their you're, just gonna, walk in a big circle, as he holds that rope Graham and I'm gonna make essentially a near perfect circle. Inferior informs the diameter the circle here. If you're taking your time, then you're gonna have a pretty good looking and then after that, you start moving inward from the site in to stopping the the the Green down here with your big snowshoe like things right and there, you have a crop circle yeah, like

said he the one for three feet on this way and hey, I'm gonna jump ram, turn the other way and lay the corn or wheat them that way it appears, stymied weirdos. World right. How does that happened yet and the whole key apparently is planning it out ahead of time and then just translating what on paper in real life you know are, basically all it takes is a little bit a multiplication, some ropes, Paul's and a couple of boards, and you can make a pretty awesome. Crop circle you're doing here. You could also use a gardener lawn roller or the traditional rope. Stop stalker right in there. You have it. There's a group called circle maker dot org and they were very much inspired by Dugan Dave. I think tugging Dave can became honorary circle makers yeah, but these guys they their other websites, still up not nearly as active as it was like

ten years ago, but they were getting paid by companies around the world to make crop circles here, like very they made a Nike crops They made arm like a swedish furniture stores. Crop circle, like anyone would be, did they make the swish they made a foot footprint. I've gotta get huge footprint, and there they just did tons of Emma got paid, apparently like hundreds of thousands of dollars for each one they did for them. For these guys spent the early two thousands make em bank runnin around doing crop circles. At the same time, their teeth are teaching people how to do it and simultaneously cereal adjusts are still investigating this, and so they say the serious challenges came up with their also called crop. Is we should say copies came up with some

steps. You need to take when you're investigating a crop circle and we're gonna go over this sure they talked eye witnesses. They did you see or hear anything. Weird, because there's a crop circle and they'll say yeah actually come to think of it. I did hear something: weird am I going to news they check out the weather patterns in the area of the previous night cause It always happens overnight, which the enthusiasts would say. You know this is their doing it under under nightfall to not be caught as aliens in listening secret messages and rational, think people say no they're artistry doing it under nightfall to not get caught sailing, keep a hoax going right,

exactly what I'll see you do? Supposedly, they will bring out our machines to actually measure soil and used like X, Ray diffraction Analysis and electronic electromagnetic energy readings right They re lies in all of this information and I don't want to know what they come up. I would like to clearly they ve been forced to say yes, some of these are hoaxes like the alien smoking part. Eighty percent right right when he percent cannot be explained by cereals, is here. There is a will. There is a famous one that said we are not alone spelled out in one more basically, but in all caps. We are not alone here and a lot of sceptic sage didn't it. You are not alone. If these are messages from aliens and did I just happened to speak English yeah so

there's a lot of a lot of points that sceptics pointed they wanted to go to the trouble debunking these and there's a guy named Joe nickel and dime. He writes for on the committee for scientific investigation, sigh CSI and they he basically came up with the four good points that the bulk crop circles. Wine is that there is an escalation of frequency as they became more more popular church, which is canvas. Thing they. The geographic distribution of em, was again concentrated primarily in this region of England Bright, even though you find him elsewhere, Brazil, Japan over. You, can also explained that by the fact that people were inspired by their crops, circles

an increasing complexity, which means that are getting better at exactly, and then there is the like. They called the shyness factor, which was there only don't night. No one had ever seen a crop circle formed right that one guys you tube thing not outstanding church, which was fake exactly unless he was paid off to say it was exactly and pretty tough to disprove. That yeah, I think, like I said I think of me.

Just look at this is really cool public displays of art, khazar amazing. It's really neat looking yeah what people are able to accomplish with their hands and feet they young they somebody redid, the NASA humming bird. You know the mask aligns yeah. They did they kind of a more stylize version that again pot smoking alien. Somebody else did a straight up part leaf. He of course, some someone did the moth man, the West Virginia moth man, the shrouded turn nice yearly. People got really good at this in and, like you said, I mean, if you look at it as art, that's pretty pretty easy to appreciate it. I bet a fine conversation to overhear at an english bob. Is a crop circle, brainstorming session right on what kind of what can circle they can make next about? That's a lot of under listened to in our rural county in England,

pub and I'll have to be an unwanted pellets, yeah we're gonna wheelchair. Maybe I will tell you anything else. I got nothing else. Third crop circles. The mystery continues. If you want to learn more about crop circles, you cannot take that word in their host of works in the search bar or don't bring up this weird weird article here, and this is the first time for listener mail like others, chilean camouflage hey guys and Jerry owes riding to make a comment on something checks. At the last listener. Male animal camouflage at one point Chuck read that the listener suffered from mental illnesses. There were practically ignored by her parents who happened to be doctors then commenting that that was quite a shocker. That's right. I remember that yet this girl had had a bleak doctrines like psychology, psychologist pair

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