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Did they replace Jerry within your own image around here? Just the nickname. We have her, it's a arcane reference to the librarian at the beginning of ghostbusters, whose uncle thought he was Saint. Jerome, that's what I've always been wrestling thing. I thought you were on the same page about it. We also color jeers, that's a reference to nothing right, Jerry right, that's it

great Jerry to chuck. Yes, have you ever been on the internet of things? Well, he can't really be on the internet of things. I dont understand, explain now the internet of things. My friend is really just a collection of interconnected devices here to make your life simpler and more and less private, pretty much fraught with potential complication yeah, but more convenient, allegedly there's a lot of people who also say these are just a bunch of navel gazing and a lot of ways Do we really need these acts? I ran across her a bait firm smoking weed as they call it. That has an app gaping system

for smoking, as this will allow a pipe marijuana right better, but it's a little pipe here and it has a of an ethic us with the deck remotely controls it the heat settings, and so does it like track things like you smoke now, one ounce of we'd this might know which a reprieve intriguing, I guess thoroughly analyse them. That's the point. There's a lotta there's a lot of stuff that you can point and say this is pretty need this thing feed my cat. While I spend twenty, three hours a day at work, yeah, that's it now that I can keep this kept alive, that I have no connection with any longer because I'm at work all the time, but this machine feeds it gives. Control remotely with an app right. But if you have something tracking, how much we do you smoke you're, either smoking far too much or not nearly enough, for you have too much money is another way for it here

You know what my friend clay come if you met clay, but he told me something that the way as far as being concerned about security and privacy, rights and things in what they do, is they sell it to you first as convenience near and then before you know it. You know, DOT, dot, dot, cookie clay, never finish the thirteenth did, but you know I don't remember exactly. I finished it. Clay said this in like ninety ninety three area, I think I'd like clay like way before, like he was probably just talking about cheese. I don't even know like a credit card or something and he has decided Beware: man he's like they sovereignty is a convenience before you know it, everyone is doing it that way and its fraught with complications is was essentially what do you think? It's very prescient, because it's exactly the point that were right now,

and we'll talk a little more will allow more I'm sure about security and privacy and all that stuff. But ultimately it's, like you, said the internet of things. Is this a lot of other people call it the internet like this is just the next wave of the internet. This is where the internet going, but the I guess the best description of it is it's a series of interconnected machines, yeah devices, that since the environment and a lot of cases can carry out, some sort of function usually does assenting function and can communicate with central servers, usually in the cloud yet here the internet. It's about a simple! Is that, like that's the internet of things, you like, if you think boy I'll sounds weird, and I dont use stuff like that. If you have anything that has the word smart in front of it, then you're, probably using the internet things already right: if you ve got up, found to her to a smart,

thermostat a smart smoke detector or if you were exercise tracker, this that's the internet of things right exactly in the There's a lot of obvious steps that right there on the horizon coming after this is. Like the idea that you're refrigerator here will be able be like on these guys were almost out of cash. You milk all contact Amazon and have it delivered in two hours. Yeah and you're. Like I don't drink catch you, milk anymore, be Ridge, do put fringe. How many times do I have to abuse you, but that's pretty need I mean I think, a lot of this. It's it's both good and little creepy like that, be cool. If I showed up at home one day and I was out of milk and it was waiting on my doorstep, I above milk, you wouldn't want waiting on the doorstep of cash. You milk, it doesn't matter now you Don T refrigerated. Nowhere does not milk its catch. You juice! Yes, it s what they should call it hum the

I dont disagree with you right, like I m sure it is pretty needs pretty cool in five years. It'll be totally second nature to a threat, but in my experience the more mechanized more automated, more convenient and dismayed air quota life gets them the more difficult it is to keep up with the less simple it is and the more horrific it is when something breaks down interesting so in within

simplification. You think it becomes more complicated because you rely on machines that can break in when they break your like forgot, how to order costume milk or you get that stuff see, think we're had ever Eddie accuracy to an extent, but I think it's more it's more than that in the short term. I think it's just that. It's it's so much easier to walk to a grocery store in by catch. You, milk and walked back home. Then it is to ensure that your fridge has all of the David Firmware and make sure that its ordering correctly from Amazon and a mixer Amazon gets there. Relying on all these other components, rather than your own two feet, and the idea that the people at the store gonna have your cash. You, milk. I see that in a way, but also disagree in a way that you like, for instance, I have a few.

Things in my life that have set the auto order, like air filters, baby formula, the stuff that watered my fridge water filter like this stuff, get shipped me automatically and it's wonderful cause. I don't have to think about it. At all, so does your fridge order itself? Are you just put a time around like Amazon? Yes, on a timer to these new? No, not even Amazon, like you know the fridge filter company I get you can set it to auto, deliver like every sixty days, hooker. So it's nice because it ought to about it. Those things missing is the camera or the device itself being hooked up telling the company hey my air filters over arrive in a spent which would be pretty awesome The truth is your air filtered could be like it's actually or at ninety percent. We need to go ahead and in order,

however, you know I that's a little. I never thought about that being will dicey, because you know you need any water filter. Trust me right, I really, but what? If you get another month after this that you're throwing away in your ordering early than they can sell another to a year to you right exactly that's what I assume and arresting them like when they're like you have to change your oil every three thousand miles or or yeah. You need and your water felt every three months and never change by oil. As for jump at this scale anyway, So that's a little personal overview The phrase internet of things is actually coins, they think in the late night by gunning Catherine Ashton, who worked for Pe Angie I'll bet. He has a teacher this, as I cleared mid term internet of things. Well, just so, you can invite people to punish him in the face with a heart gave him a hug.

Depending on how you are, he worked for Procter and gamble and he had a presentation there at work where he said you know he should do. We should put radio frequency. Idee tags are, if I d on lipstick in the store so and have that hooked up to a machine where we could autumn. At least in that information is a hey. The stores running low on lipstick get a shipment over there and he coined the term internet of things supposedly in that meeting, and apparently, though, at this time for prior to that, the Ninetys were a big time for some recalled the ubiquitous computing yeah, which is the basically the predecessor to the idea of the internet of things. Like computers, which must be integrated into I live proudly incompletely and the internet of things is it in that vein? Will similarly, but from survivors alot of people like thing quite fill a fulfil the promise of ubiquitous computing. This is kind of like lice site,

more convenient now thanks to this, but that is a region. I dear Catherine Ashton, makes total incomplete sense. You know like that. You could. How many sales do you miss when you're lipstick thing is empty? until you get you find out it's empty and then get a refill. It yeah like if you're lipstick, the last one can be like a I'm, the last when he gets better sense and replacement right of its great. That makes perfect total sense, and that was ultimately the original basis of the internet of things. It's taking dumb things making, unlike you said, smart by giving them the ability to since their surroundings and communicate that data to essential server words, analyze and then the proper people are alerted yeah. Here's the thing that by often ever could it is. They must have discovered that there was a need for that, and the only need I can imagine would be that the employees were so bad

realising that they were running out of stock, that they would go several days without having lipstick on hand right. So they're like these people, can't even Well what, if they're, what it always made. It lets say that you have a person whose job it is to restock lipstick right and they go one week and there's like five million tubes or so. George, they just take some ample and throw third away just because they want their bosses feel bad about the orange lipstick, the sun being sought tubes of orange and come back right. Yes, the next week and it's all gone sold out and then, like that, you ve gotta, unemployed, you're, sending their that's just hit her miss whether you just wasted a bunch of gas in the employees

I am rather than rang, alerted like now. You guys can come right before it's too late. Sure that's the thing that makes the most sense to me, Catherine Ashton, genius. Maybe so I went to look him up, see what he was doing his this view, just where the teacher or he might be a professional term pointer, worked out quite as well sit back and efficiency of the future yeah that that was the kind of cod little bit early in the two thousand square, but then it disappear and went away. The Dodo, which was coined by giving a great grandfather, older brother, as well as it yeah Tommy Ashton, has been around for a while since the data the Dodo died right. So let's talk about a little bit. What you what you ve got essentially is. It is a step by step system that many times starts with a smartphone. This

due to the internet, then you have other pieces of hardware in your home that are also connected to the internet, and there is most likely app for that hardware on your smartphone right then that's usually send out to the cloud. It's not some guy, some lady sitting in a room here. In your guest, we're looking at your data is a thousand stems today is following Regarding the last count, no there looking at the data from your wearable yeah this in your gesture, but become me- I don't know I bid depends on whether they like get along with your body. If anything at all you ass, you, milk will tie during saw the cashier milk. So, that's why tides not wanted he's been counterproductive, so they re usually goes through the cloud which is where we send our data. These days, words eyes and that's a big that's a big part of the internet of things he took his the cloud. Has. That means that you don't

to analyze the data in the little machine in the little sense are also has to do, is sent stuff and create that data and then send it to the clouds. Were your basically outsourcing all the analysis that takes a lot more computing power. Yet there was a big development that there is such a thing is the cloud now yeah? That's it catapults the smart into it and if you wondering how big it is right now that depends on how you ask, but some say between fifteen and twenty, billion devices already that are connected. Some people say by twenty twenty or twenty twenty five. It could be anywhere from fifty billion to a trillion devices connected depending on how much it catches on you know how every day it becomes here, but it said it that way for sure I don't think. There's any going back from another, nothing they're going to stick a some sort of gum, computing hardware that taps into the internet

I'm everything. Everything, ok and in a desert necessarily have to be a smart thermostat like they have devices. Now that you can tag to everyday items to keep up with things yeah or, let's say, cameras that lessons have a security system at your house that you can view from your smartphone from anywhere in the world yeah, and maybe it automatically calls the police. That's the internet of things right, I mean there's a lot of great applications for again like this is just wherein the the nascent period of of this. Like the standards like why holy cow, I have a small Norville rats, amazing and at its also meant it works really well, but but there's you can't, you are basically can't.

Apply your imagination to predict, what's eating into be fifteen years into the future. As far as the internet of things goes like this, that the change in how we deal in interact with the internet and our surroundings. Is it's it's inestimable yeah who wrote this one Stricklin? No! This is a Bernadette job. Well. She wrote a line in here that I'm just gonna read because it really can I hit home for me, she said we essentially given common physical objects, both computing power and senses, and that explains it to a t. Yes, she did a good job. With this visit. A lot of information like you can do anything. You can make anything smart that you wanted, you can have a smart, can opener smart, too ballistic yeah, exactly urged Smart Cuba to face that when you know when your squeezing the end in Europe, how do you get all the toothpaste out? What your method? Oh?

They make a little remover cameras com. They get a machine yeah I was marked it. It's like a little. It looks like a member those candy lips, the wax lips. He looks like those put in their pocket right now. Ok, simple! Those out there. If you had a like a slit in the lips, you put the two were toothpaste in like the end of it in their in It is kind of tilted at an angle. A little bit and puts pressure need the sliding along internet issues into the front. I used my tooth brush to do the same thing. How oh, you slide the truth. I was suddenly the two face assumed on the sank and use it as a mere flatter squeezer squeezer yeah, that's a good one, interesting you'd! Never realized just pack, your toothbrush, your teeth. What are you what he paper? Some like what you gotta get dollar

music. I don't like that year. Nothing! Nothing too much whereby I guess I got away with it see now if, if high, if there were some sort of computing cheer upon this thing that calculate how much toothpaste was left rather than information in my amp. That will be a smart to pay squeezer right. Or you come home and open the mailbox in his new to face I didn't even know I was out because I haven't been using my my lippy device forget to brush my teeth for three weeks. Take a break year scheme or silly here, and you go brush your teeth and will meet beckoned here and now I want to take adversity three seven, eight second straight, that your needs new year's resolutions are very, very difficult to keep.

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or go to the post office again. By the way. Seven and eight seconds is not nearly enough time aren't you spoke. No, that's washing Hindu supposed to do. The alphabet Weiss, proportionality for washing your hands are pressing your tea? You now I use my city like three minutes for brushing unity. I've got the idea. We want name check here and buzz market, but I've got a mechanical too.

Hush mechanical ended electric depression and you know it has a bit beeps and you divide your mouth up into four zone. Sorry, I think I have the same lap top right bottom with bottom right in disputes in mind, as indeed bit like vibrates. Really it's already vibrating technical, but if it changes its vibration, really weird, I guess maybe it's a pause in the vibration. I think about it. I just dissenters, vibrating yeah same dealer and they again their smart toothbrushes. They can keep up with how much you pressure. That kind of stuff other their wifi connected to pressures that connect through an app you know my brother in law, the Marine corps general. He ice to laugh at him, because I was in his bathroom once and open the door and he had a log of his

razor and shaving long while and like how many times he used the razor and is basically pre smart internet of things, smart razor, perhaps I'm sure they have those now The two alert you like when you should change your your razor blades. That alone, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was slightest those very funny amused at a lot about who he was oh yeah. You know and no surprises Marine Corps General Hippies Kevin up stuff, like that, I can. I can see him like a modem, is a great guy just sitting at the edge of the bed by before bedtime, putting his cat fifty times, no more, no less than putting in the foot locker at the end of the bed for the night in like tucking himself in his one that German to being sitting down to the area, the great debt to him nice heads off under this issue, again nomadic transferred over its overseas for the first time ever commandeer UK says now not that oversees

Am I lay in the Azores imperilled I'd say where he's going? Ok, let's go with you topsecret her. I can tell you off here through those blink this, as I see it, is probably doesn't matter and disrespect private. Let's call by telling you When did he taught me to be sitting down, really are starting that national combo enter? I just think it's important eunuch there need to be talking about. No mistakes is the motto of the dying on no no drips. Neurons, no airs nice that we just take a break and we came up with this garbage. Maybe we should start over now, where I heard of the year. I was talk about the Tec, about that here, too, limiting nothing new. No apparently, this says in again the hope. The whole basis of the internet of things is what's called machine

machine communication. In the way the EU have like you're smart lipstick to sending their sensing that it's the last tube. It concerns all day, long and still a dumb thicker lips lips now get tell you right unless it can communicate that data to the people who need to know that stuff right and they do through machine to machine communication and, unlike you're saying Telemetry was the original version of that, which apparently dates back to nineteen twelve yeah. It's comes from the week, tell it means remote and match Matrona means measure, and that's why you basically in a remote area. You measure something, ok and then send that visa back then telephone line right like an arctic station or

something set up to watch animals like deepen the jungle or something like this all the beast. Someone gather the will the beast near. There was early telemetry exactly and that's essentially just an extension of what we're doing now, yeah now and extension of from that boy, we built upon the mean think like the first dial up stuff. That was I guess, probably telemetry another series of lake thick now that I mean you're sending signals from one machine to another saying let me offer my support. Why are you so slow

and what's allow the internet of things to take root very simply gives more complicated, but the invention of the world wide web by Mr Tim, Berners, Lee and nineteen anyone hats off man, then the ubiquitous ness that word ubiquity ubiquitous ubiquitous of wild. I, although yeah thank you because he is the right of wifi, porky, big thing right If it that the widespread nature of wifi, all of a sudden, were united to be physically connected to something that really advancing as eyes weed and then, like, we already said the cloud yeah, I think the cloud

the thing that really kind of allows it more than anything else. It's just if you had to have, they can computing power right there in the sensor than it would be very limiting you couldn't put it I'm just anything, and it will be a lot more expensive too. Things that their adding two to you. No normal inanimate objects to make. I'm smart are very cheap yet to produce yeah they just need a few components. They need computing hardware, they need sensors, they need communication hardware and then they need some sort of power source which you can get that from the machine itself that you plug in right. So, like a very smart coffee maker, it can draw power from the plug fit. The coffee maker runs off and then needs internet access which, if you have a smart coffee maker, but you don't have internet at your house, you made a poor decision in your coffee, make a purchase the pretty much everything comes that internet access it. This way right eye in the western world

The other thing we can have been talking about is your own devices in your home, but it just did you don't have to be just hooked up to things that you own, you can hook up to other like system devices like will say your town has devices that monitor traffic conditions. You can tap into that. I guess that's what ways is right or that all self reported I looked up and it seems to be all self reported, but there's something called ways: citizen or something like that in it, and it appears to be ways trying to get smart cities to let them tap into their information. Like tat cans and stuff like that year, apparently the authority, a thing like, if you just leave your phone opener like the blue tooth on driving through a smart city with some traffic sensors, it it. Basically you your phones, information, while you're in traffic is real time traffic information, because your phone has something like

and accelerometer in it? So it knows how fast your moving at any given point and if it's giving that information a panel on the side of the street. That panel can put all that so together and be like a peach trees like super backed up right now right and they if ways can get their hands on their information, they can send that to their users, but far right now, ways far as I know it is it's: it's a social apps right. It relies on its users to update conditions right which, by the way, ways I think, might be the best f of the twenty first century. So I didn't start using it ahead it on my phone for a while, but I never used it but have a little bit recently. I don't. I don't like interact with much eldest set it to tell me where to go right, like our report accidents, things. Should that mean I'm a bad user? I mean you're here we're abusing like the the efforts of other people. Without,

shipping. I mean the point is for everybody concerned and makes a more robust, but I don't, like your data, show a beggar how, like safely you pull out I'm a highway world and accident. That's that's! Probably the one big thing about about ways they like you're, not supposed to be using it in that you were right here. The driver use must be the passenger, but there also kind of telling you do well, The thing that when when it comes up, are when you try to start a liar, you passenger rights and they disappeared, you're going to be truthful about their less. Like the website to say, like tell us when he won by clicking exactly and they welcome the party yet a twenty year olds. I shoot me. I click on the sun close two weeks, I'll be back in two weeks.

The other thing I was wondering to like what, if the lipstick as an example, what if they that's open to, where you can look at your app and say like will know the stores lipstick because you know said I have an account or to a dumb person. I know it's awful wait for them to go, look with their eyes well, but you know I can get. It is nowadays you can't hay and one second seabed someone stock and usually met with near hold on and not like sure, I'd be happy to go check right where you are like I can't wait to get out sorcerer robot right, but then you get to the store and they dont haven't stocking like a call than ass someone there. I heard you talk to, there's no one by the name of work. There. Sorry and he's like got covering his namesake with his aunt in check, with speaking of smart cities in a traffic, impose a big one job so with some smart.

Light weight area. Always these had been around starting. When I was sixteen years there is there a few things to me that are more of a waste of time and sitting in a traffic light when there's no traffic going through indicators were near rather this famous for its lights, not being timed trip or whatever It is there for ever it's horrible yeah, yeah Decatur does have really long lights and the other they don't even have the. We thought It's either metal detector await sensor, yeah that were there's like the lines that were, they obviously cut out the the hard top infernal guy for the light the. If, if you don't even have that this problem, but even those ones that have sensors soon always linked to immediately. This should like yeah, it should be a lot more than that in that part of what their rubbing your engineer, that guy had to stop at Vienna indicators,

When you drive in its dictator, what's your hurry really now thought and I can see it actually slowdown Decatur? What's with all the baby strollers another one road, baby strollers, there was big off early jogging baby stroll out the huge tie yeah yeah yeah, but that's you live in decay will now I mean that I dont really go off robot. That's because the sidewalks in my neighborhood, her awful suffered there lay suck yet is off. Road might well be like tree roots, grown up everywhere. That kind of thing they're, like the others, trees, never gonna grow, who put a sidewalk at breakneck. While you two months marked cities, the other cool thing, potentially that they could do, they might actually be doing. This is infrastructure like embedding sensors into sidewalks. Well, that's good example like a sidewalk that becomes cracked, her broken or a ridge

Becomes a week in one point: they can send a signal say: hey, maybe you should come check out this bridge and then eventually they will send a signal to the robot sidewalk crew, who will come out and writer sidewalk and everything is perfect, Alla time thanks to the robots right, but there's forty robots and like thirty eight murder standing around him, sent over more than words they learn to smoke. Cigarettes seems weird. I want you to get so rubbed it. Cigarette break is ended in smoke. Oh yeah- and I was always like I am just going to stand outside the boss via you can't do that. Really I mean you could take a break, but cigarette breaks went even real breaks, a man like any smoke. You can never go, I'm going to stand outside for five minutes for, like you have to be

killing yourself to make that allowed here, and I d done on me when I smoke or to that's when I was young and like a more angry back then but justice near so again. We can see here basically all day and talk about. You know devices an epoch, since for this kind of thing, but there's some hurdles that are coming up, that need to be addressed pretty soon and we'll talk about them. After this the new year. The US which resolutions do you, plan to conquer and twenty twenty become more mindful or create healthier lifestyle through diet, exercise and, of course, improved sleep. The sleep number three, sixty smart, that helps everyone get the proven, qualities, leap that will change their life uselessly by queue up to help create a redeem. The sleep number three sixty smart bed is the smartest choice for betters

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using totally different language is different protocols? Different everything If you have a house full of different smart gadgets, you probably have an for every single one of them, he added one integrated gap app and that's that sir, it's not a hurdle. You can have that many apps, but the idea of it being similar the integrated into just one part of your phone right would be great anything, talk to one another without you having they control it right. You know like you're you're here the light answer is on your light, shade notices that are the sensor. Any good answer it open blinds a little there and when that happens, it you're you're, smart, cantaloupe. Slicer knows that you like a slice, a candle of before dinner. Yes, oh it's like The can't open there all talking to one another. So it's not like any Then a timer and things happen at once. It's happening because one thing is sensing this and its

that information to the other devices in your house's of as well. That's not happening right now. What I need is here. I need between seven and nine. I am any my toilet toilet the flush about every eight minutes, man alive and be my smart house were or as soon as the coffee starts brewing seven minutes later, the toilet watches the happens, e coffees good for that straight. For that, but that's a nice things coming very soon to smart toilets. I can tell you like osier, you allow to Billy Rubens in here with that, little what's up with their. So basically, what you're talking about is systems that are integrated, because this bunch different companies with all their own devices, But there are companies trying to come together, to join up with open source platforms. And one of them is created by Qua COM copy,

seen alliance, which is what I like it, something like from our future horror movie yeah really creepy the all seen alliance Newspeak like we might, as you might as well say like we want a camera in every room of your home. So we can all this talk to each other. Make your life simpler to relax, lay back apples home yet always make it sound cute and not creepy, when it's done crazier than the austrian alliance yeah, a bunch of people have on Google Adam Samsung. There's one called everything. That's missing a couple vows wink is a big one. Number two with the big one right now hear it controls and stuff, like, I think, Phillips lights and it works with nest, maybe or something like that, it does like to think so. It's like courage right now, but as the author of this article burned Johnson puts out niner all encompassing which I saw that nose like Mitch, hamburger

like that sentence, none are all encompassing yea cities like trying new words and dumb, rather than like totally totally too much, maybe like midst. You, like small, seemed like all encompassing we, So another hurdle that we are already getting around was back in the nineties. We see to realize we are running out of ip addresses. The standard ip address was the wealth and it still is in some ways the ip before yes, and before and in the nineties, they get smart. Wasn't like the whites UK bug. We like oh, my gosh things, you're gonna, be different in a month. They got on this a while ago and created the ip, the six and started basically create

potentially what's the number and on the civilian number of at three hundred and forty undisciplined addresses the money that is one with thirty six zero behind it and enough give IP addresses to everyone on the planet. Times tend to the twenty Eightth power. So basically they said we now want to run out ever again. Will the thing is Chuck is in nineteen, eighty one when they came off the ip before they came up with four point: two: nine five Billy in place about address, they write knowing they like that we're doing here and there what within like thirty thirty years, the thirty five years they said. Really,

Now, apparently there is a prediction that in two thousand fifteen we're gonna straight up, run out of IP before internet address as their ip addresses. Yet and apparently there was a cliff. We avoided, obviously, because that's still were still making things that have their own ip addresses. L. I thought they did run No, they used their use. Different things, unmitigated, including this network. Address translation, really cannot open things up. Networks A server identifies a network as a single ip address and then leaves it to the um network to decide where the informer and That'S- must going to one computer on the network- goes right, see better this to the rest of the internet, whole network, which can be a tonic. Computers is just one ip address, so you just reduced it by that many computers that are on that local network gotcha. There was a big one, but then all

building new things and ip? These six platform has helped mitigated a little bit too. So I think it's a cliff that we came very close to better voided going over. What does it matter now, because I p these axes the new way forward. It is but there's a lot of stuff still in use. That's pointy good for the next couple years, yet they have like IP deep before P ip before addresses that still need to like like me too, well that the matter they can their compatible. Now that will there working to make them compatible. I think they're already a long way down that road. Oh yeah they're, using both seamlessly pretty my article or there's a great save well, I think so, there's a great wired article about it and they basically said at first they weren't entirely compatible. You had to have some sort of layer and between them

them basically be friends, ok and there still working on it's not like finished, but is that so far the transition has been pretty seamless like you're, using your interacting with IP basic. No, you don't know it yeah. I would assume you like. If you have something that was made in the last couple years, it's probably IP basic set out. Yes sure. Since Brittany, under civilian didn't you another was a thing at any. There had a look it up. What the heck is at a typo on so I think we can put it off any longer chuck, there's a lot of security and privacy concerns that crop up from the distant presence of the internet things right, give a bunch of sensors in your house collecting data on everything from you know how many times you toss in turn in yours, leap write to you know how many minutes the toilet needs to be flushed. At intervals,

to whether you're moving around your house or not whether you home, there's a lot of sensors in in even now. The standard home in the United States that can there are collecting data, and there's not a lot of regulation on what happens. Is that data who has access to the data? How safe that data has to be an its wide open for women surveillance hackers, while he argued it adds. Yet, if your pay Lloyd about government stuff than this probably worries you hacking a whole different, can of worms, and everyone should worry about that yeah. I feel like everyone the worry about government surveillance is well big time. Some people think that spunk, but governments valence well some people here,

sure they're fools made easier or other food in the world is full of fools. That's crazy to me! How could you not? I mean like there's there testimony from the head of the USA. There is snowed snow. Real, releasing the Prism files like how could anyone just say noticed The cases where what you're saying as everyone should be as upon this as I am- and that's that's the foolish if you ever so many people on the street today, I think about fifty of them would say: that's just that's. Just conspiracy, stuff I see, I thought you were saying like people knew and- and they were saying, like notices in a real thing now I got to most- people will probably have their head in the sand of ok up totally agree. I see what you mean. I still think the fourth well sure and said because there is the one thing that

press security into the internet of things, yet there isn't any right now, there's virtually none babylonian. It's all gotta be self installed, not another person. By the company right. Ok, we know you're, probably worried we ve done this. Isn't that right right in the that will happen is if people say, oh, their brands, not very secure. I'm gonna go to their competitors which a super secure or they get sued sure and that will come brand new, which are self regulating right now, as far as security goes to become more secure, but People are unaware of it or just don't think that kind of stuff is going on and there's not can be any calls. And they ll be able to continue to put senses sensors in her devices in our home here that can eavesdrop on us that can detect all sorts of different things about us without any thought for security whatsoever.

Yeah. Well, they have a great example in here, and it's not just the internet of things is already happening with the target is dad and two thousand twelve got mad, because his teenage daughter was getting baby adds targeted towards her, and he was like why you trying to get my teenage daughter to have a baby. Why do you keep centre and the suffering and he found out she's pregnant and was like he actually apologize to them, but I still think like he had a beef, because what I thought, as they were just using her search information to target, adds like which is what goes on all the time. But she wasn't what targeted ties is they have every customer every time you shop at target with a credit card, you have a guest, Idee number that says: oh here's that credit cards.

Josh Clark, a gesture he's back in my store. Here's all the things that he's bought. So let's target adds at him rice simply by shopping there without using cash which add another happened. Well, and they used to be. You had to sign up for, like a rewards program like a covert cardiac that I only land use. This is the same thing without you opting into right in a yet just tracking a credit card, and I M Ling is New York Times or add. One article were eventually equipped talking to the New York Times, but he got a little information in verse and I say talk to a target play that said: here's a hypothetical example. I will say this: there's a girl and at last shopping here I should like cocoa butter lotion. She buys a big purse that could be a deeper bag. She buys magnesium supplements and a bright blue rug. They might just surmise Hey a bit

It is pregnant. Budgets can have a boy, the she's gonna blow by that bright blue rug, his guest cocoa butter engineer- and so you know what a better she's doing August, two determined by what she's purchasing right. So I start bombarding her bombarding with ads and that too simple creepy, if you're not opting in with the amidst a little creepy anyway you get like the shoppers card been here that you are saying, and I sure I'll take a little bit of a discount in exchange for you, yeah keeping track of my spending or you willingly check the box terms and conditions without reading it that I think terms and conditions should be a whole other episode. Man yeah documentary about that yeah. It's I think it's called terms and conditions apply. Nice is maybe but boy. It is creeping here here. Why does nobody ever worry that stuff no way and they make it that long so that no one would like its yet, and there is actually in. We read the Sir Guardian article D check that out at a century ago,

so in the guardian article, there's a mention of SAM Song which had they had terms and conditions for their tv, a thing it wasn t doesn't fourteen or fifteen that it came out and it says in the terms and conditions for this. The tv that you bring into your home, please be aware that if your spoken words in person or other sensitive information. Then in for me and will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of voice recognition, which means your tv is listening to you in transmitting your conversations or, at the very least keywords from your conversations in your Listening to somebody else who can figure out how to target adds who can on a government watch list. You knew anything which means a year

walking. Normally in your own home, you're tvs, eavesdropping on New York and in you you think you say: that's, ok, not you, but one says that's fine cause. I don't wanna touch my remote. I just want to say turn up volume here now I can't be bothered he's my finger. Firing gettings by Nicholas Cage movies, come up a bad one. Either make families there getting used to love any sandbags net cage on personnel. I dont think I ever saw the hours of money I like Nick Cages. Tiny Elvis is good news because of this He's I love Nicholas Gauge because he's unabashed he will do some really great smaller movies, where Yorick manifested is an amazing actor and then he'll do the worst garbage you can imagine for money, yes, and just like yeah, I wanna buy eighty motorcycles, but I think he's a great example of what a good director can do with it.

Sure, if they know what they're doing with I'm sure can see, does virtually the same thing in all our movies, it's just how much more he's doing it and how much is reigned in or how good the script yea comes in his eye. You want twenty percent age or eighty percent. I mean you're right. He has made some gray movies, but man he has made some penguins. Where are we going to get back on track? There's one other thing to there's a big debate going on right now about whether your phone is eavesdropping on you write for at the very least targeted adds again if you think that your phone is not eavesdropping on you, you're just deluding yourself your phone, your tv, your laptop, anything around you that is connected to the internet and has a microphone and or a video camera is Eve, dropping on you and you don't care right, guy,

care, but I also have a feeling like, but you have a smart, but what can I do? I know that you cannot have a smartphone, that's part of it in theirs. There's a that's a big thing: there's a theirs like ok, I want to be able to read Twitter every thirty seconds industry, likewise boring Do it again, thirty seconds later. Any I'm willing to trade that ability for the idea that yeah I'm being listened to and in the gamble that, while I mean I guess, I'm not saying Things are important, but I mean like that's. That's that's wrong like that's wrong well or people say like we feel have nothing to hide than you know better. That's a fallacy that the logical fallacy granted a lot of the people collecting data bank on yet it still has a chilling effect on on society at large and if they ever do want something on your brother, they got it yet ancestor. Man, I'm sorry am work there.

I was I was driving you get on. My start out, like glitter, I'm gonna, be cool. Now, then, that, like didn't change, green all itself, dumb traffic, we talk. A little bit about hackers and we're not just talking about your information or tapping in your bank. What about? If you, if you're, if your grandmother who is a shut in, has his great new smart health system that is hooked up to her body and alerts her doctor, if something's wrong, she's low on meds. These are all great things, but what? If someone can hack into that and tell you know and hacking grandma systems where it doesn't alert than her? Life is literally at stake here or what, if he of- and this has happened to what, if you go into your babies, room your baby minor. You hear some guys voice on the other end yet screaming curse words.

Russian. I think that's happened to hear that it favours dislike. Was this guy's problem here? He usually tells me nice stories, where's Sergei. I want the thirty day it's all really creepy man, you know one of my heroes, Charles Man, Fourteen ninety one and forty nine three, I never heard of it. He has, though, he wrote an article on vanity. Fair, called look out, he's got a phone and it was all about the ways that the internet of things could be hacked till. I basically really threatened somebody like. If you got a smart pacemaker or smart insulin pump, the things could be hacked in that's that's it something that we're gonna have to deal with their we're dealing with now, as it is a stance while one of the things that could help, what should be going on? Is these devices, at the very least, should be giving you options on how much data they get their hands on how it stored

and what the expiration date on that is like. If you quit using this device, they solve your for me. Right where I'd still be collecting it to be absolutely or one! I didn't! that, when these systems are no longer supported, like you, know that the company shuts down or something it needs to have a suicide measure programmed and right to it like it kills itself after it's not supported, aim or any to do a gruesomely. What are economic Well, as you can imagine this hundreds of billions of devices on the horizon being connected. It can have a pretty big economic impact and you're talking about. Something on the order of what was it for point.

Truly in dollars in value by twenty. Twenty four up from nine hundred billion seems a loaded me. You know like think about just in Kashmir Cologne, sure trillion dollars, whilst also accosting. Some companies has a well if you ve, heard of square yeah, probably pay for a lot of things with square these days thing, because it allows small business previously, there is only one way to make credit card transactions. You had to get of fairly expensive system. That cash register, yeah the Mena made at all possible and you had to they can a hedge over barrel. Little bit then swear came along said now. You know it. You don't need that stuff was democracy.

Yet we have the internet now hear some competition. I need a little thing, deploy again to your tablet and you can swipe it right there in the cab or in the place of business and avoid the middlemen and use or use pay, FAO and basically skirt these companies have kind of revenue off threat. Is this. In turn, that business passes the costs on to use a customer. So in a way or their like, we don't take their credit card, their fees or to hire whenever he exactly but the right. It's the Democrats nation, which remain its greatest, opened up a lot of a lot at stake at sea into the real world, a threat it met. Awesome There is also worry that could cost jobs like he said what the lipstick stocker gets fired

Does he threw away others orange tubes, lipstick yeah? He deserves a didn't. Do his job get enough? Well, that's it like this. I think this article kind of this kind it glosses over the issue and it's a big issue in and of itself I don't know, but I'm thinking glossed over it so much as there's a school of thought, very, like prominent school of thought. That says now: that's not what happens near it. Big people get different jobs and learn new things and the one example they used in here, which they make sense, is I'm ATM aims popped up everywhere, and people like out, while others do not have any more bank tellers, knowing you screw bank and well yeah, but they actually increase in number right. Yet I did, and they think part of that reason is because banks get open more branches because they

didn't need to staff it with fourteen bankers. They just needed a couple: you're buying more branches meant ultimately more teller. Yes does not in one place. The thing is. I would be very curious to know whether that was an anomaly like that. You know it. Typically in an industry that gets replaced via a machine, a good one. I can atm works pretty well right if they, if they actually, if jobs, actually go up earth. That was just like one of the very rare examples of it. Well, I think it's it depends on your industry, if you're one of the people that did that thing you like, while ass my job to a robot, if you feel the robot You like I got a job because I'm now building robot Ryan. Again, I think we talked about this. I don't remember in why episode, but if you are

getting rid of in industry and in putting a lot of people out of their their employment, their careers, I'm not against automating stuff like that bright, but I think part and parcel with that is to figure out a way to take those out of work, people and train them yet going to new fields or this too, to build the stuff that they take took over their jobs or whatever he appeared to be like better luck, we figured out a way for a robot to do what you do in bright. Go go, get hooked on action, anger, die way. We get it for what was it? We gotta greatly male about the year. That's that's! What I'm talkin about Iraqis written another, a certain amount of people from this industry. It was Kentucky call. Coal industry, willing that were then cross trained to do computer work right

when you that long ago, but I can't remember exactly what it, but that's exactly what I mean like that number one: its role of government. In my opinion, this one of them is one of the clear things that you can look at me like bow. Yet that's what governments for their space to invest in infrastructure and education to to keep people employed yeah so that everyone can earn a decent wage, as is my so box. This is basically been one long, so it says nothing. So, what's the internet of things there's literally nothing more to speak about it? Ok, no more! I'm just and if you want to know more about that cancer, is you go check out our compatriots John Strickland podcast text? Us a guarantee success. Things every other week. Yeah now imagine you want to know more about it in the meantime, you can look at this. Article on how stuff works, that com by typing internet of things on the search bar and since I said things sign for listener,

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