Hey everybody, Microsoft teams is helping priority bicycles reinvent the way they work Great Chuck, that's right when the pandemic it, the bike. Job had to close their New York City, show room, but they found a way to reopen by doing virtual visits on teams yet and now You can meet with two or three times the number of customers that they could before, and people from all over the world can visit their show room. The tray and you can learn more about their story and others at Microsoft. Dot com, slash teams no fees or minimums on checking and savings accounts. Banking with capital. One is like the easiest decision in the history of decisions unlike choosing to listen to another episode of your favorite broadcast and with their top rated app, you can deposit checks in two for money anytime anywhere making capital one and even easier decision. That's banking, re imagined was, in your wallet term supply capital, one in a member at the icy welcome

if you should know a production of Iheart Radio welcomed the podcast, I'm Josh Clark nurse Charles, the beach of Brian over there and Jerry's over there, the three He goes, in every single way, shape or form, and that makes this of course stop. You should know just basically its own sovereign nation of equality do yeah Oh yeah man come on. Get me outside. Jury had more power than we did. No, not a drop more nor drop less nary a drop less Charles yeah, due to its nice place, to be it's a nice state to live in You know mentally and physically agreed I think you're the beginning, we're gonna do a rare regularly. Listener mail, but a rare front loaded listener, male alert that we got

first of all, a couple years ago, a woman named Terrain Bailey suggested the topic of the equal Rights amendment and at the time pointed out the difference between the word suffragette in suffragist I clearly did not read that email close enough because it took an email. Last week after one of us said suffragette and then a recent pursued in a woman named Mary Melanopterus, male said hey by the way. Look it up. I mean she was mean she was very nice sets out the buckets being too nice, yeah she's, very nice about it. She said you know look it up there suffragette is sort of a disparaging term. Rather than suffragist, and it was by reporters in the early. Nineteen hundreds at thing, and I think in Britain to mark people fighting for the women's right to vote and at another until then

I'm glad announced that thank you marry the area which you hear that its it makes total sent. You know of course it is now. I never knew that never thought about it. I didn't either. This is how people learn stuff just assumed you are making a Bowie reference in the episode. I thought it was you that settings. I'm pretty sure, as you very well either way now, we all must go with you. Ok, we probably both Or more and more to the point, probably was be, but either way those, I think, your hats off to you by referred for coming up with that one dwell, not say it again,. What do I tell you all night anymore? No, of course not ok, He said well and I'll say it again. Then I think that the opposite of what you say you know I would so word in a day about the equal Rights amendment, which is it represents a really

like discouragingly long swaths of american history, but if you say, if you look at the whole thing from a historians I or even an anthropologist site. It's really really interesting the history of this. They equal rights amendment. If you kind of look at it much more subjectively and empathy imperfectly and pathetically, it's a lot harder to swallow, but it's still interest Nonetheless, until you yeah, so that equal rights amendment is in a constitutional amendment proposed constitutional amendment that would give women. Equal protection under the law to men that you could not discriminate there. No

couldn't make a law that discriminated on the basis of sex and I'll bet. There's a lot of people out there, Chuck that say world, that's already in the constitution. Isn't it because there is a poll the ape he conducted into twenty twenty? They found there about seventy two percent of the people, they contacted thought that there was already equal protection from for women in the constitution. That is not the case that Saint Paul found. Seventy five percent of those respondents were in favour of enshrining that protection in the constitution, so its kind weird that it's not in their. If people think it's already in there and then when they find out it's not there in favour of it overwhelmingly yeah, but we know we just happen to live in a country where ninety percent of the american people could be in favour of certain legislation and it would mean could very positive fall on deaf ears when it comes to our politicians. Yeah, yes, because by partisan

poor has been defined in recent times. As you know, what the houses of Congress agree to not necessarily what the public agrees to, which is a different form of bi partisanship in to me, if you asked me the more important one they give the if the public, really agrees on something go with that the eight it seems like since their elected representatives in Congress. They should kind of go with that so charges, twenty twenty two Yes, I can't wait, it's gonna be there's gonna, be a lotta big changes around here. Everybody, so should we can go back to the beginnings just we should cause it's. You know Societe URI with the Seventys and the lid movement, is, will see, but it goes back a lot further than that yeah does in it's crazy to think that, since the early nineteenth twenties, they ve been trying to get this enshrined in the constitution and it still isn't in the year. when you twenty one, but that is the case, the first version, and of the equal rights amendment were written up in

the twenties by a suffragist. Name, Alice Paul some other women, notably one crystal Eastman, also helped out a lot and so help get the Nineteenth Amendment Pass, which gave women the right to vote. In twenty and they together and said, you know, I think, The next step obviously should be just to go ahead and put this in the car solution that women have equal rights like men in all facets of life it pointing out here that Paul was quicker and a leader of the National Women's Party for like fifty years or somethin. He's an imagined she was a Quaker, because she actually named the amendment the Lucretia, my amendment after another Quaker woman from the nineteenth century, who is also a suffragist as well as well as an abolitionist? Yes,

peel back, you know the layer of early twentieth, century or nineteenth century progressive, there's a about a hundred percent chance. They were Quaker criminality and all sorts of good stuff during its pretty interesting It really is. We should do it on their quakers for sure yeah. I have a friend his bigger and stuff Quaker meetings in Quaker, weddings and stuff in it just seems so chill and peaceful, fifty very revealing right, but so Lucretia my apparently was among, what's considered the the beginning of the first wave of feminism, which was you know, Not only do women need the right to vote, and this is like the eighteen. Thirty is eighteen forty tankers when she was really beginning to be active, not only should women have the right to vote, but these people were also very frequently also abolitionists right, so win

Congress, certain passing laws that protected the rights that enshrine the rights of African Americans in to the constitution into view. law of the land saying you can not discriminate against people who are based on their bait because their african American or based on their race women said way just add sex in their insects. Lakelets. Let's put that into the Fourteenth amendment and that didn't make it didn't make it into any of the amendments. and that was a I don't think it cause a rift or anything like that, but I think it is extremely disappointing to the suffragists, who had also worked for abolition as well, that the two things couldn't go hand in hand. So african Americans, it started to gain civil rights. Kids before women did. Women gained the right to vote and women just they had to carry on the suffragists movement continued on even after the apple. Shrewdness movement was successful.

Yeah in nineteen forty three hours Paul said well, here's what or do we reword this amendment that we ve written, so it's sounds more constitutional. I guess and so it sounds a little more like the fourteenth amendment. and the new version basically said equal rights Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or a bridge by the United States or by any state on account of sex, and you know once again this was proposed in You know for about thirty years in most sessions, for I think, every of Congress, every single one didn't get a lot of support, and you know it's not to say that all men in politics were against it, but it certainly was not their legible the priority clearly, and If you have a run from nineteen twenty two to nineteen, seventy, with only ten women serving in the Senate, never

when two at a time then the writings on the wall that the areas is not just it's just not gonna, be a top priority. I note with it, sad writing you don't I mean like this actually warrant. Women in Congress certainly doesn't let men off the hook like they can't now they can't passes, can't possibly take up legislation that guarantees the equal rights to women because we're man, you know, like that's, that's very bothersome, but there's something else in their chuck, so from nineteen, twenty nineteen, twenty three when Alice Paul first introduced all the way through to nineteen. Seventy. It was taken up in every session of Congress in it failed in one of the things that stuck out me was that there was a guy who oversaw the house. I think the House Judiciary Committee and he was a Democrat from New York and he put it I bosh on it a manual seller yeah, so he put the kind

he would not let it get to a vote, and I was like why this guy democratic New York was his problem and it turns out that the opera- listen to the e, our aid, which is now very clearly Emma, like it liberals or for it progressive. Therefore it conservatives are typically against it. It used to be flip, what were the liberals especially new deal? Liberals like Eleanor Roosevelt, were against the equal rights amendment and conservatives like Eisenhower. Conservatives were typically in favour. in their bizarre year. It is I mean Roosevelt. She had her reasons she wasn't just like. Oh, I don't think women should have rights. I think she's you know she thought would undermine workplace protections. She was a party. Kennedys, Commission, the bird she chaired the commission, the President's commission on the status of women, which I think the result was released, postures posthumously. That said, it was

The area was unnecessary in sheep. Become a came around a little bit. She never gave a full throated endorsement, but she can stop talking out against it. I think again point she used to debate Alice Paul, like them publicly. They were, you know, have back and forth debates over that, what you know, the army was needed and how helpful it was going to be so I mean you, don't I no there dumb. Eleanor Roosevelt is frequently criticised, is not out right. Feminist enough a lot of ways, but she also clearly seems to have been a feminist her own way for sure yeah, and we should point out to you that a manual seller and nineteen seventy two in a very big upset lost, to a woman, an attorney named Elizabeth Holtzman, largely did was opposition to the area, so yeah, ok, so so finally by the early seventies, you're getting more and more women who are starting to show up in in Congress like Bella,

bug and surely Chisholm, and they they basically said like this- is our priority. We're gonna get this. This equal rights, amendment finally pass through Congress, and I dont know if it has happened to be like a in error Kind of bipartisan sentiment or what the deal was, but the everybody finally came together and that thing got past like a piece of legislation is ever gone past. It was this one in a bar parties manner, yeah and you know what we'll get to Heaven ass with a really big reason is because it started becoming a big deal in the media. With this second way, Like you mention of the, its lead movement and enough small part by a woman named Betty for Dan who wrote a book called the feminine mystique that in nineteen sixty four sold a million copies and its if sheep. Probably gets at least a short stuff online around. She was really interesting.

the reason she wrote this book is because she, the survey for a college reunion for her former classmates, learn that many of her former female classmates were not super. Happy being homemaker is it not being able to work and, sinner down a research rabbit hole on this kind of a gamer passion, project because you want to write a magazine article. Will you really in Dublin No one wanted it, so she ended up publishing it as a book called the feminine mystique which can go wrong, to the world of America in the early early sixties? Yeah, because I Guinness book she's, basically saying like All this whole thing we're all we're all going along with the idea that the the most are the highest aid. he'll, a woman, can aspire to be the best wife and mother she pot we can be in that fats or identity is someone's wife is somewhat mother that she doesn't it own identity and its independence, all that that is a crushing away too.

for a lot of women, not all women, as will see but a lot of women, and she spoke up for a lot of them and I believe that this was kind of it was already cut it out there in pieces. They people were talking about this, but Betty Freedom put it all together and put it on the mapping and got everyone talking from what I've ever seen like, almost single handedly started the second wave of feminism, yeah and she put a pen in this little many series, she was played by Tracy Omen. Any serious last year called MRS America that working it's you a little more in depth in a second So I'm Betty Freedom publishes the feminine mystique, like you said, just totally rock everybody's world fur for better or worse, depending on your ideas about what the feminine mystique was about and saying, but yeah like yours, like that really laid the groundwork to this by partisan, passing a congress of.

The equal Rights amendment in nineteen. Seventy two, I believe right yeah. So it passes in a big way. I think he said ninety three percent. Ninety three point: four in the house. Ninety one point three in the Senate by China can't read my head around that. How did one third of a senator that Senator Cross section of new Oklahoma and misleading Here's the deal, though, if you want something enshrined in the constitution, that's it! deal in this country. They dont do it willy nilly. Nor should they but you need not only like once. It passes that it's not automatic than the state legislatures have to ratify it by a two thirds margin, which means at least thirty. Eight states have to ratify it. The Euro had a stipulation. That said, if that is done, in seven years, then you got it to the drawing board, and that was that

was not in the actual you're right. That was not in the constant to learn amendment that was passed and that's going to become very important later it, but it was in the legislation were there, you re. The amendment was sent to the states for ratification is a do this in seven years bright. Ok, that's that's just like that. Little slight distinction makes a difference down the road. Oh you mean the ear pushing for that year. I certainly would not have wanted and expiration date no in theirs, as far as I could tell that they have been averted. at the expiration date to an amendment to be ratified before it was just an overhaul. an arbitrary period of time to so just just two on that point, but that what did at Pisa gum in the back of your cheek and save it for later? I wonder debate. If there I mean how many years, seven seven soldiers pour the sky,

So within one year, thirty of the thirty eight AIDS needed ratified it, which was a super fast and their owners. Like you know, proponents like this is great man looks like this is gonna, say into the constitution and then a woman popped up name Phyllis slightly, and we can take a break here and we'll talk about Phil. ready for this You know everybody in twenty. Twenty one mental health is finally a thing, so many people are struggling right now or not feeling motivated and would like to make some changes, and the Czech and I M here to tell you that therapy helps yeah

and it's time to stop being ashamed of like normal human struggles that we all go through cause. You deserve to be happy and better help can help you. They are accustomed eyes online therapy that offers videophone and even live chat sessions with your therapist. So you don't have to see any on camera. If you don't want to yet you can privately talk to somebody if you feel like you're, not dealing while stress sir, if you having relationship issues, you can make their peak to be whatever you need the trade in its much more affordable than in person therapy, and you can start communicating with their therapists and under forty eight hours and Even better everyone, because better help us pondering stuff you should now and listeners- can get ten percent of their first month at better help, dotcom flash stuff, that's better hd, LP, dot, com, Slash s t you double F, get some help. Folks,

with better hope. This episode is brought to you by ip em. We all want sophisticated and simple cutting edge made user friendly. In other words, we want a hybrid and so do retailers. That's why they're going hybrid with IBM a hybrid cloud approach with botany. I helps the managed supply chains while predicting demands with ease from retail to help care. Businesses are going smarter, hybrid cloud, using the tools, platform and expertise of IBM, the world is going hybrid, with IBM, go hybrid at IBM, dot, com, flesh, hybrid, how'd, I guess depend

and where your views are chuck, we should have introduced Phyllis safely with the m. The Darth Vader theme song and see me and, if exert exactly right. Did you watch any of the interviews in debates? Yes, did you could really interesting? If you Have your wits about you, you could despise everything there ever came out of finnish lifeless. Mouth is very, very easy to do. She equates gay people which I guess in the fashion of the time she calls homosexuals. She calls him perverts, yes, says that they should not have any rights afforded to married men and women, they should be able to adopt children. She says some really judge pickle. I didn't hear allowing yeah. She says a lot of very despicable stuff in her home

viewpoint is despicable to a lot of people, but there are very few people walking around out there who have the poise, in your possession to go into the lions den and speak for whatever she was convinced of, was right that view she has to be credited to at least degree, no matter what you think about her mind. She was she had a lot of points. I guess you could say in its really kind of something. No, what can I saw this Did you see that the good morning american debate from nineteen seventy six between and foot in Yemen In its like, it's really clear what a skilled debaters she was yeah and how rattled she could get somebody here I mean she clearly, I feel bad for per day and she was doing a good job. She was she was getting this off, and you can tell that she does

to get under people skin. Yes, while she just remained perfectly you know, erect in her seat with perfect posture and that MRS America Series, which it was on our list and then a bump it back up to next in line now to watch, but she was played really really well. Judging from just the the acceptance mannerisms via cable internet Maybe I can do no wrong yeah. I want to see that series to. But yes, she is so. If you see those two debating, it's like a study, in contrast where you fill a chef Felicia slightly, is basically sitting there at tea time at the country Club before the model match yeah. Before Dan. If you put like a break in sunglass, french cigarette in her mouth she's, like sitting at the beaten cafe like listening poetry, GM or something like that produce any justice to totally contrasting personalities, fish fully debated or under the table into selling Betty Freedom was was it in intellectual slow

by any measure by it's. This foolish. Lastly, could rattle at anybody but she could rattle Santa Claus. I'm I'm just going to say it I mean she kind of made herself out to be just this homemaker she would entered when she introduced yourself it engagements. You would think her husband for letting her come there, but when you canopy and the curtain she had a masters in political science. She had a large degree. She ran for Congress when she was twenty seven years old and lost and she was sort of pre Nineteen eighties, a big part in that Mary least think they called it the Christian right at the time of organizing what would later become the Christian right movement. Yeah you make a really good case that Finnish, lastly laid the groundwork for the current republican party yet in every way, from from Reagan onward to today, and in yes, she basically said like unjust.

housewife from Saint Louis, proud, housewife, wife and mother of six from Saint Louis and in a lot of ways she was like a she made reference to law school during her debate. four Dan and she sound like she was in law school, then so interesting. It seems like He was just a woman who said, I don't agree with this and I'm going to put a stop to it, stood in front of this unstoppable tidal wave ants tapped it. Yes, stop. It? She stopped the e array for being ratified by the states right at the eleventh in a half hour before it was ever ass in ratified by the thirty eight city, so they got thirty states in the first year. Nineteen eighty seven there of the thirty five states. They just need to be more three more states and the whole thing

going to become the law. The lane and finish Lifely got in the way of that. Almost single handedly at first yeah, and you know she watched her. Her group has called stop URI, which you know weak obsess about acronym. It's sort of annoying when the first letter of an acronym is the actual acronym Thea, but stop erase did for stop taking our privileges. and her argument. You know she was like and then she uses to her advantage in these debates like see how angry these feminist star light, she's she kind of coin. That term I think the angry women's limit these angry families they just want. They want to to throw down everything that makes us female and everything it makes us women and they wanted just set fire to it, and before you know it, women are gonna, be able to be drafted in the armed forces, never happen, you know, there's they're not gonna, be separate bathrooms locker rooms. Any more from this point on not true that There have been more in recent years.

wrapped up same sex marriage, and you will get to that. How she can have cooperated, a rights and reproductive rights, and all this just a sort of coalesce that move but Instead, you know, women are gonna, lose their right to alimony. Child support, never happened, and just that if, as we know it and the families we know it- and this is something fifty years on other stuff is still so relevant. Like that the solution of what you know, people think was the perfect family and nineteen. Fifty, basically, yeah because I mean so, she was a troll like a protocol troll but likely. Where you didn't do online! You do in person by her. Her points were coherent, understandable to people who agreed with her energy. Were that like a like, the man's role is to provide for and take care of, the woman and the one. provides like the domestic labour and that's just the division of labour between the sexes in. If, if we have

see. Array. That's go away and then there's going to be all his other horrible stuff. That's going to break down the fabric of society and do we. We want that and so by by taking the, argument, away from the idea of weather women have a fundamental human right to equal protection under the law, as men, which is who disagrees with that. Nobody disagree with that a mixing it up with all these, what I have seen: potential social outcomes not ruin of the family. Gay men teaching your children at school, that who is what consolidated people into a movement finish. Lastly, everywhere was really underhanded, but it worked really really well and still works today. like him up with that from what I can tell yeah in seventy three when Roby Wade Pass. She was and savvy enough to say what here's something else I can,

can seize on and I can wrap this up like there's a theirs Oh there's, a really large block of voters who, conservative Christians, Do you know we ve never really intermingled politics like that before, and so, let's wrap this up and pro choice, less wrap it up with gay rights big culture, where issues at the time to kind of rally and, like I said coalesce grouped together in order to defeat the equal rights amendment and, like you said it, you know if it worked, in a big way, and I can't wait to watch that tv show. A canyon and I don't want to suckle the oxygen away from Betty for Dan and the other feminists, but I was saying that Foolish Lifely was a troll, a protocol and if you read some of this stuff that she said in public is sometimes sounds like a spokesperson for the Taliban like she said things like gum that that sexual harassment on the job was not a problem for virtuous women like right.

You know you exactly or in that the atom bomb was a marvellous gift that was given to our country by a wise God, just things that would drive any. Liberal or progressive, especially a feminist up the wall and, in fact, Betty for Dan. In this very famous debate. three years before that good Morning, America, appearance that you and I saw she said you you're like you, should be burned at the stake there betraying you're you're ginger beer. She didn't yourself any favours the stuff like that. Gazette just allowed slightly to say, see are you angry? They alone is exactly right, but she could just get under your skin like that, so fast forward Many many years to come, now almost seventeen. After about forty years of not much movement, Nevada, became the first new state to ratify the array, thanks in no small part to states, pat spearmen,

and she said this bill is about equality period, twenty eighteen, A few years ago, Illinois came It is well, and now it's back up to thirty. Seven did we mention that five of the state's d ratified or rescinded. Their radically asian and I think we did. We did not, and I think that an important point here, yeah Nebraska, in a sea, Idaho, Kentucky and South Dakota. You can all be hurried out of your legislature after nineteen seventy seven. They do ratified or de Certified, not decertify. They rescinded it. They Dan, they said this is based on theirs, actually pay it is for their Ohio in New Jersey, both rescinded their support for the fourteenth amendment once their legislatures change, control to white supremacist. Basically, in the nineteenth century they said we take backer our vote for the fourteenth amendment. It also set a present

though, that Congress ignored that and still counted Ohio in New Jersey as having ratified the fourteenth amendment, because they did officially writes a ghost back up to thirty five, then, into in Illinois made at thirty seven in January of last year, crazy that it took this long Virginia finally became the thirtyth state and so forth. Units of the erase it alright. We got there the thirty, eight these things should have never had an expiration date to begin with that right arm. Whoever said seven years and the import of Scotch they to be burned at the stake. They said, listen get this thing done him. Then they said you know I back in seventeen. Ninety eight, that's what Seventh amendment was passed, but ratified until two hundred years later, two hundred and two years so like there's press

there, in that was about prohibiting the law, raising your lowering taxes for congressional salaries from taking effect until their next term, like big, big stuff, not knocking at its it's important but they said you know that was done. So the thing should note had an expiration date. To begin with right? Opponents say well know there wasn't expiration date, so we have to honour it and This you know, that's the deal. Sorry, there was even a three year extension that brought it up to nineteen eighty two and, by the time, the extent and who is running out and it did not look like anything was going to move or happen, or no more states remain unmoved, ratify it even the the NASH. organization for women and other feminist groups based Clarice through in the town, said it's done, The EU already lost this time has not gone forever, but this amazing immense tired.

And tidal wave. This with just the momentum of a freight train running through the country is now dead, just a few years after which is just nuts that that happened. It's just crazy, but that's that's the fact that now thirty eight states have officially voted in favour of ratifying set off a flurry of lawsuits here in the United States in Wind Virginia became the last one in twenty twenty and basically every in anyone's suing. The national Archives records administration to either certify in did into the national archives or the national record that that this is now a part of the constitution or to not do that. And it's totally up in the air of what that's going to be, but apparently about People, not everyone, because there's plenty be were like its official now take all the b. The way in this is the official law of the land. There are plenty of people who are proponents

of the equal rights of members who say we need to start here again, I am one of those people was Ruth Arbiter, Ginsberg, who said, needs to be voted on again. We need to pick up again basically from square one year and I think and we'll talk about all the stuff, but I think there are in so many laws enacted since then they do protect so many of these rights. I think people like r b g were like you know what, let's start over. Let's rewrite it further modern times making sure everything is in there that we still need, and yeah and when we vote on it- and you know, I think- that's reasonable- so do that so much less sing a break down then we'll talk come back and talk about those questions? I do we need the Aryan. What would happen if we did pass the yarn about that sounds good

support for this plan cast in the following message: come from e trade. You want invest your money, but there's one problem: you're, not sure where to begin lucky there's a trade who offers more than just trading e trades Levice, investing without the financial jargon and has the people to offer guidance and support to make your money work hard for you for more information visit trade, dot com, slash, Iheart e trades, priorities: LLC member fin raw Civic, you the body when you're relaxing at home? The last thing you want is for your neighbours to be able scope out. Your bedroom set, refined other

bringing the same, embarrassing reality. Tv show for the tenth time. Luckily, finding custom blinds at an affordable price is easy at select, blinds dotcom in a truck. That's right if you're asking what makes a like blinds better well. First of all, they make the whole process. Choosing blinds really simple: we're gonna, give you all the tools. You're gonna need to find the right product for you, and they have a huge selection to choose from two you're sure to find something that fits your style and budget. Here they have everything. designer roller shades to fully automated motorized options to no matter what you choose, the blinds or ship directly to you. So no one has to come into your house and don't worry because they are very easy to install shopping at select. Blinds means your shopping direct, so you get the blind you want without the big markups. Just visit, select, blinds dot com to check out their selection. Samples referee in shipping is free to that's. Select blinds die select wines is the smart and simple way to shop for blinds.

Hurried shock, so you may engine of like a lot of laws that have been created since the since dumb the e r a was passed. I guess by Congress I and even before then that protect women as a as a form of what was called the protective class in the United States. Their protective classes, they include dumb races, religions, sex, the sexual orientation in gender identity is becoming a protected class and if you remember of protected class, it means that if there is a law that excludes you from something, whether intentionally or not, that law is considered described, sure you can file a lawsuit against it and then the courts have to apply different tests to it to see just how discriminatory

it is or if its discriminatory at all and whether or not it should be struck down or over ruled in the reason that sex is a pretty protected class even without the equal rights. Amendment is thanks very much largely to Ruth Bade. Her again who is an absolute legal pioneer in figuring out how to give women the protection under the law that they were looking for with equal equal rights amendment without the equal rights member being part of the country, fusion yeah I mean, I think, people that say that don't need the array it's a very fine line between saying I am against the array and saying I don't think we need the array it's all falls under the same banner ultimately? But people that say we don't need the array say you know we got the Civil Rights ACT of nineteen. Sixty four and its color religion, sexual, national origin are you can't hire and fire pier

hire and fire people based on that. That applies to pay and benefits to. There is also the equal pay act of nineteen. Sixty three that say there should be equal pay for equal work. That's didn't you know in practice, has worked out that way as are still wage gap. We didn't get up, but the other was a good living. Violence against women active ninety, ninety four, if it were resources for domestic and sexual violence in prevention and prosecution of that counselling and this one, however, in you know put upon in this one, because this is one that is used also for peace So we do need the array because at one expired and is still hung up and has not got in rational reorganization, since twenty nineteen, because of politics, the violence against women. Yeah and then title mine is the last one and nineteen. Seventy two title:

is the one you hear about, mostly in college athletics and says, there's a lot of things, but in terms of college athletics, at the biggest impact saying you got the same amount of women sportsmen sports, in the same, like accommodations in scholarships and all that stuff services like we don't need the area because we have all these things, and so yes, sir, you have law and then you also have case law to that basically hinges on the fourteenth amendment, which says that a citizen of the United States can't be discriminated against. Is due equal protection under the law by the states and by the U S, and that was written in the thin in in passed in the fourteen member. In the wake of slavery, it was meant to basically make a free rein. We freed African Americans full citizens in the United States, but it doesn't specify on the basis of race or on the basis of religion,

it says if you're a: U S, citizen, you get equal protection under the law and so Ruth Vader Burke, one of the reasons she's such a legal pioneer in this respect is because she's the one you figured out how to argue that the fourteenth amendment applies to sex as well and the whole thing about legal stuff? This is all new to me, but but it's really can interesting depending on how enshrined classes are protected. Grew is in law the more protected. It is the stricter the scrutiny that judges are Going to apply to determining whether a laws discriminatory or not and the most the most scrutiny you can applies on. These calls strict scrutiny and that's typically reserve for things that are protected by the cap. detention, and that means that if you have a lot of even remotely stepped on the right to one of those protected classes, its probable, an illegal discriminatory law. Yet how does that work with

work in practice. Does that mean they just spend more time or what it. What does that even me? So I think What it means is that you, if you pass a law and say that I passed a law in it accidentally discriminates against your ability to get your hands on oatmeal. I can get all the oatmeal I want, but you can't let say in the constitution, Chuck is specifically protected under the law. That means that law that prevent you from getting oatmeal. That's a discriminatory law, and so it's going to be really see for you to bring a lawsuit and for a judge to say like even a little bit of discrimination here, this laws illegal, because it discriminates against chalk and his it says in the constitution, you can't discriminate against Chuck. It just means that that the standards for that law to stand like everyone else

on the planet basically has to benefit from you not getting oatmeal for some religion and that that that's just not how long work so would be really easy for Europe to bring a lawsuit and that law overturn, because it discriminates against you, because you are protected class know if it's just like everybody likes Chuck, but it doesn't say in the constitution that you can't be discriminated gets. The guinea is a slightly less stress, test to determine whether the thing is is a discriminatory law or not, and so maybe yeah generally promotes oatmeal use among other people. Among all people. but there's some other people who don't get it to that, doesn't really matter, because you know it's not in trying to the constitution, so it's almost like degrees and once you're in the constitution as you as a protected class like it, is really difficult to discriminate against you and that's one reason why people say we need this. We need this in the car,

because women in sex engender even should be protected class. She should not be able to discriminate against somebody based on that Yeah, I mean that's the main. That is the main argument for proponents of the area's saying. No lets me this- is the real deal there? You know cases can Overturned laws can be reversed. Executive act skin have devastating impacts in the end, only being enshrined in the constitution will make this like, like you said. So lock down and protected the people can't mess with it anymore. I think, seen in recent years that you no precedent can argued in laws can be. overturned and it's like. Sure we have all these laws that passed since the very first came was. ratified. You know in the nineteen seventies, but it doesn't it

the much you know, especially when you look at a super, very unbalanced Supreme court, when people for people do, worry that these these things can be taken away. Yet I mean There is a famous quote from Antonyms Scully or when he was alive and justice on the Supreme Court. Basically saying like no. The constitution most decidedly does not protect this against discrimination on the basis of sex, and you know when, when you hear Supreme Court, just the thing, that's like what? You know how many cases it is gonna take before he rules like now. You can totally discriminate against survey on the basis of sex is in institution. It is a matter which Antonyms, Scully or any other justice thinks it's in the constitution, so that that level protection like your thing would be it's just a totally different level of protection then you know customarily. We we dont discriminate, it's no! You cannot discriminate, that's the difference between those two things. yeah, and not just reversing laws but passing new laws that

by way of violate that equal treatment under the law, and you know some other things it the that constitutionally could come into play. If I were to go through as something like the pink tax, I don't you ever done, a show on the pink tax. Anything to you, but this is you know this is the notion that, like you, know, everything that, like similar products for men and women, they large women more than they do for men, for these products to stuff like You know minstrel equality, equity. Basically, you know tampons adds other menstruation product should not be taxed languor. They should be like We did like any other essential item new year and then so so there are a lot of things: a lotta, protect, Instead, it would afford one thing that frequently is cited as is protecting women against, like violently say, domestic violence.

from what I read it, probably wouldn't, because it protects against being discriminated against by the law. It doesn't necessarily for protection from like an individual person or something like that Ray a surly company, although being enshrined in the constitution, you could really sue accompanies pants, offer discriminating against too. But there are, there are some things that would do some things I wouldn't do and then there's some things up in the air and one of the reasons why this is still such a cultural flashpoint. Still today and twenty twenty is because now more than ever, it is become acquainted with a taxpayer funded abortion. No, the reasoning behind people who oppose the array because they think it's basically tantamount to discuss. Legally repealing any restrictions on abortion. Abortion from that point on is

women can get abortions, and if there is a law against abortion, there's a law that discriminates against women. Therefore, you can't have laws regulating abortions, and so that's why, especially with the Christian right, it's still such a flashpoint. Today and that's why starting from scratch again is going to be no easier than it was back and nineteen seventy two there now you're, probably right. It's pretty frustrating now to get to that thirty eight state threshold and because of some dumb arbitrary expiration date placed on it. It still being held up in the year twenty twenty one in the year, twenty twenty one and then also the United States, has an obligation is like basically the leader of the free world to join the rest of the world. Sir Nations, in in enshrining the equal protection law for four by sex. I guess

the United States is one of only twenty eight countries in the world that doesn't guarantee gender equality, one of twenty eight chuck in a hundred per cent of the countries that have written their constitution since one thousand nine hundred and fifty have included some guarantee of gender equality in those constitution. So it's kind of sad that we don't have that stuff. This day here and if you look around the country, the sooner desrues up this out with this article any points out stuff like enough, you go to Nepal. Their supreme court structure oh exempting marital rape from criminal pass a prosecution because of its you're, a clause in Tanzania, the court of appeal. strict analogue allowed a fifteen year old girls to be married without parental can said, rob only had to be at eighteen. So you know when you look at countries around the world that are herb.

seemingly ahead of the USA and in terms of equal protection is just it's it's baffling and disappointing. It baffling is right. You hear anything else I got nothing else, it's good stuff! I have one more thing: if you give me another second, you ready you're. So when I was Britain is my hair is spinning again and again and again It reminded me something that I read recently and that is really easy to get bounced around from one outrage to another, to one thing: to care about this issue and then away what about this issue- and I saw some advice- where I dont remember where, but it was, if you want to effect change pick. One issue indebted yourself to it, and there doesn't mean that you don't care about all the other issues that you do care about. It says that this one issue is your specialty you're, an expert in it, and your probably going to get further going like that. You're probably going to be able to see more change. Doing that, then you would just kind of bouncing from

shoot at issue the issue. So I mean if this like really got to you and you really want to do something about make the make getting that ye are past your specialty in a totally ok thanks for. Let me state, and so boxer again and since I'm getting offer my soap box and shook his putting it up in these soap box, carry that we keep hearing studio them is a time for listener. Men I'm gonna call this a ninja in the Connecticut forests nuts. Did you read this one? No, I haven't. This is gonna crazy. It's long it's worth a big eyes. When I was about seven, my mom Mary, the man I called dad and we promptly move from Texas to Connecticut where we use cocaine, I wonder if we're out the woods benign roles around and go to bed about an hour later I heard my tent and zipping, and my dad said, shaking my foot thing come out here. There's a effing ninja

so I thought some slippers and my jacket begrudgingly trudge out to sea. I kid you not a ninja sitting next to the fire pit. Regular shaking my head disbelieve to reaffirm this. Wasn't some very strange dream and now when I say there was a ninja, I mean full garb with a slit to see through this had twin swords on his back, throwing stars tiger clause for climbing grapple hooks. All the tools. Apparently my dad's Owen, rolling out of a bush, it had to see What's going on the story behind this guy was using National, a national guardsmen and also ran a Duke Indo in men jet so don't show in Rhode Island as its main gig we set for the next couple of hours and skies to showing the stuff like how fasting a tree, or out of there was star like I then progress is any ass if we are familiar with brutally as an avid fan of enter the dragon from around eight, I said yes and he s of if I'd foreseen is one inch bunch

Thirdly, I said sure I have, and then his name is Brian Nature. Brian and asked if he could demonstrated on me a budget twelve year old, They said no thanks. I'm good explicitly did not fly backwards, with any force and he said no, no I'll deal with an open palm, so it doesn't hurt I get in, Physicians me safely away from the fire, but with my facing the turned about seven feet away from anything trust anyone by the way his instruction is okay, now to stand there. While I hit her he and hills deeply? Does the flat hand against my sternum justly him kill bill, then, in an said, I saw his muscles tense up the audibly exhaled sharply and hit my chest open handed Go airborne and hit my tailbone next on a tent stake, seven feet behind me and can't really walk without crutches. A couple of weeks while kid Scotland, but believe me when private

about. Why was on crutches, because who would believe a kid that says I had a run in with a ninja middle of the woods meanwhile that is from drew Carroll and shining Cheyenne make sure you knew. I mean Cheyenne Wyoming. That is true. That great gray that was a magnificent listener mail. I mean hats off for that one, thank you and if you're Brian, then you're out there, I want to hear what happened to you yeah, probably, like. I've been doing a ten year bid for beating a kid up in the woods, but the kid so like your head boy well. If you want to get in touch with us like drew and try to top Druzya listener, mail drew by the way is the current list for male champion

We want to see. If you can do it, you can send an email, rapid ups, banking on the bottom and sent it off to stuff podcast. I hurt radio dotcom study should now its production. I heart radio from what had cast my media is that I have any apple, had cast and were everywhere

your favorite shows. You know nothing is better than learning, while your entertained, that's why we love curiosity stream, its netflix for nerds or Hulu for history, buffs or Disney plus for the scientists in US curiosity stream, as thousands of documentaries on science, nature history, an more you can watch on your computer, your phone, your tablet or your tv, and with our code as Y s cake at twenty five percent off your annual subscription visit curiosity stream dot com code as why, as caters subscribe, happy earning stuffy should knows, brought you by progressive. What would you do with an extra several hundred dollars by plane ticket paid on your student loans trees after that pursue benign well with progressive

You could find out drivers who switch and save save an average of over seven hundred and fifty dollars on car insurance. Gayer quote online a progressive die, come and see how much you could be saving national annual average, auto insurance savings by new customers surveyed in two thousand nineteen potential savings will vary