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and what can be done. Josh Clark, there's Charles the return right. You have my dream something now I'll get my asking you had no would nearby about. This is with us yeah, we'll get you put together and you got a little podcast called stuffy. Should the train. I ve been doing this for four hundred and we work at the outset that were very closely close, so not that they were, I guess you could say were were starting to get our stride faith for someone come take the keys away. Meta my room. I think that this is, I think they stop paying attention. They're they're not really aware that were doing this any longer another one of any importance. Actually listen. That's always good bye

Jerry Single, please anymore, who listens is important. That's right! That's good point! So, Chuck Yes years in a movie star face you know, like beginning part where he comes to Miami from Cuba here, so that was based on an actual historical event. Called the material boat lift yeah. I think I need it so between all its back in, Listen up to something you already know between April 15th, one thousand nine hundred and eighty and Halloween one thousand nine hundred and eighty one hundred and twenty five thousand cuban basically allowed to leave Cuba, while and they were all so allowed to enter the United States for Helen later Window like yes MA, am April to hollowing. Well

so either a lot. I mean a lot of king and ale. It was. It was a huge deal Wesley put everyone in jail member, the phone county federal penitentiary were scarface, was the real scarface outgrown just down and grant park, they put a bunch from there and there is actually an uprising therein and dealt aforesaid becoming. I think we might have talked about in the Delta forces said So it was kind of a big deal. One of the reasons why they put everybody entails because they wanted to make sure that Castro wasn't just sending over the dregs of his presence right so which would have pretty smart yeah, so they actually interviewed everybody and twenty three thousand of them confess to having a criminal record back in Cuba, while and thats really saying something because you know it's not like Cuba was gonna send over these people's records. Rice was self confessed and I think that

right there! Basically, can it tells you about that person you're trying to fit in well they're gonna come clean, exact, maybe ever come clean you! I can stay here right there at both save it. That's what it was that'll happen, I'm so of these twenty three thousand, though they found there are only two percent were actually criminals under. U S law, really the other, let's see twenty, one thousand two hundred and fifty four this is on top of my head: Musket were or criminals under cuban law that they didn't have some sort of analogue here in the United States. I wonder what some results I would imagine they would have liked to do the same political dissent here, probably everything or like hoarding items. The hoarding, like you know under communist rule that is how we are importing toilet barrier or you get some smuggling operation going for toilet paper. How swapping upset-

Why is illegal in Cuba is like we're gonna give your husband to tell you which one it is gotcha, way. So most of these people were allowed to go free and even some of them were allowed to go. Even some of the actual criminals were allowed to go under, what's called immigration pearl and then of those twenty seven hundred and forty six, who were found to be real criminals. Eight hundred two nine hundred had to come back to jail the real poky this time because they broken a. U S, law well on immigration from. But my point is this: without criminal records I would not have had the censure. That's pretty good,

had a feeling that was gonna circle around like that, because we're talking about criminal records, at least here in the United States yet and where we say wreckers varying the good. Can we mean like files you're, not like a break, you broke a record or like. Let's was in your record, yeah, there's your good records. Yet this it there's a camera. What leases doing on the Simpsons, but she s ago, the hollow records than under underneath and princess has not the good kind. That's good! I criminal record here in the? U S, at least as than I didn't realize this. It starts with your rest. For some reason. I thought if you were arrested and not convicted than they would just say forget about. It apparently wants of a charge and there are ways for they can say forget about where you have to go ask, and they can tell you now yet is then I too looks

there's a few ways these or use here in the states, first and foremost, obviously, to help out trying to get bad guys sure in a database hiding suspects, that's kind of the original point, I think so, their Aussies for Senator which makes sense yeah because, like if you ve done something before and they know it, they have a record of it. It's right. They can say you know. What do you do your past behaviour? We think that we should really throw the book edgy right or authors it like a three strikes or they have you yeah background checks. This thing there mainly for this, the most controversial use of criminal record absolutely because with background checks, if you enter the military, try to get a job with the FBI. Ah, if you are

involved in elderly or child care. The criminal background checks are pretty standard, but there are also becoming increasingly used by corporations in what is widely considered over broad ways yeah, because the didn't the original idea of using a background check a criminal background check for job was the third checking that Europeans will. I get delivery, driver job and checking to make sure, you, dont, have a history of like running down the elderly, yet with your car and driving off, because they'll get sued for that will now companies we just looking for any kind of criminal behaviour whatsoever and as well They can actually say that no one can hire you because of your criminal record. They can discriminate based on a criminal record, but you can also not share that criminal record. You can correct yes, we'll get to that back in the day. Obviously they used, it is rightly things keep your love.

Coffee shop and that's why, back in the day, it was really easy. Your criminal is to move to a different state or a city yeah in like you're sort of getting a fresh start on my yet because if you wanted to share this criminal record, You might have to sit down in hand, write it up and who wants to do there? Nobody not me. Basically, it was just the medieval mom who were cool with doing that and they didn't have anything else to do cause. I had plenty of other stuff to do the right about now, if you're out their impact ghastly analysing the does anything did. Why are you telling us fear awesome audience about criminal records because we're all have clean noses and we're do gooders of the world? I believe you, but here's a set six point: five percent of the? U S. Population is a felony record, felony record that is higher than I thought it would be:

and no one in fifteen people have actually been to prison in the poky and the poky and not, I think our fan base would be on the lighter side of that yeah but hey. I know you can't be blather. There have been imprisoned his wound, we did prisons, people wrote it, We have people out there who are imprisoned very now, gather. Let's do we'll shoot out to our prison population listeners, everybody in their stay up, and Hang in there get out soon, yeah, ok, even beyond that surprising step right six point: five percent felonies right, the sixty five million, which is about a quarter the american population, sixty five million american adults have a criminal record, which means have at least been arrested. Yes right, yes, that we need to talk about anything in urban. You know I don't talk about that.

Are some things if you do have a criminal record that are that are gonna, be there for the for the taking of Europe and law enforcement. That is pretty much a name that birth aliases, what you look like, which are built like where you live, which have done you got any outstanding warrants, have you been convicted and then the old standby fingerprinting buckshot? Yet it's all right there. Firstly, what what's keeping smoking gun dot com alive of that same ugh shot the do the hover with gold face They are seen that guy now he was arrested for having and he's got like the glittery Golda spray paint around the knows about it. But now my fate

either Nick Naughty or James Brown, and they look like brothers in their monk shots here. Those are pretty close to the crazy here get near. So, basically, you can see just from those details of what's in a criminal record. The idea behind them is. We want to find out who you are and what you ve done before yet, and that's pretty much edited aside from the fact not hand written in this tat, like you say, at the local precinct anymore, the sword and databases? That's that idea behind him hasn't changed much over the century, vesture very true, it starts at the local and state level? And if you, are gonna, have an arrest record or of or a criminal record that who is in charge of keeping up with that like if it was a state crime, it wasn't a federal offense. Then your state court and state offices who's gonna, be in charge of that

They can either report it to their repository. More not, I think, not all states mandate that no it's fallen and then the state repositories can either report it to the national repository right or I'm sorry, that's voluntary within a state in some states is voluntary. Whether municipality share their imagination so talking to voluntary right. If you end up and on a federal registry to an extent- and you can have more than one record I would imagine an imperfect law enforcement world. Everyone has aroun has record, has one record and it was

flouting? The onus is access. You know when you do another thing: they just add another thing to it, but from from the sound of this, you can have a bunch of different records and they could all have different stuff in and then maybe they'll never be compiled, and one is true well as a civilised people commit crimes is one reason: is there and I think, they're traveller? Does it disappear that way because they have multiple accurate? I think we may have some alone. Thank you right, there's only like eight criminals in the: U S there just really prolific new year. As a loosening- are very, very difficult to keep, get more exercise save more money. What about this? We have a resolution that you can really work with stop wasting time going to the post office that right you standstill. I'm instead because they bring all the services of the Eu S postal service right to your computer. With your small business, pending invoices or packages,

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So the Good NEWS Josh. If you have a criminal record and you wanted expunged or sealed in some states, you can get that done. If you go through well, you can at least try to get it done by going through very specific process in the court in the state where you were convicted till you have em, you petition the court in theirs. Others, lawyers that specialise in this kind of thing going before the quarantine this guy. This crime was a crime of passion. There's no recidivism involves there's this guy had a in exemplary life since then he wasn't even convicted he's just arrested. This is twelve. Years ago. He hasn't done a single horrible thing and even if he had, if he had had a sense, he would have completed it and arm. He hasn't been arrested, sense and so that the judge thinks about it.

They bring out a dog, and if the dog likes you in your record is expunged. I think the jets are the big expunged stamp or denied yanking raising Arizona. This, why am I think they expunged as the isn't? I don't think we should use that word, because it gives the impression that your record is white, clean yeah and that there may be a sheet of paper the stuff I used to be on, but there's nothing there any longer is not the case. Sealed is a much better turn to describe what happens. Just what happens is your record remain but only law enforcement has access to it yeah, but it's sort of its expansion away because or I guess the key word there. You said the appearance, because you can still from that point on give the appearance that you have a clean record to employees, who can say employee

the unemployed. You want them thinking elegant, but you can say I have a clean record and legally you can say that and get away with you if its expunged, although it still exists, is just a law enforcement and also on government agencies have access to it. But no one else does juniors honour your luck, yeah. If you're New York, I think and see this to me should be automatic. If you are a rest and convicted something, then I found out some one else did it, but you have the still go through that process in York to get expunged, and I guess another it is, but I figured that would be automatic, no in New York. If your arrested you are not now our committee, you go to trial, but you're not even convicted. If you still have the petition to get your arrest record cleared yeah yeah, I guess it's everywhere there right.

I am under the impression because New York, where is possible only if the case was decided in your favour, that that would mean that if you were, if you want to trial your criminal record be expunged. If you weren't convicted I have to admit, I am not sure about their own Norton play nobody rezoning seriously. Does play the game, no process for expunged from whatsoever, which is to bed- and I think, even with kids- that's the case, one in Arizona yeah! Well what juveniles, since you brought it up. Everyone knows that, if you're under eighteen generally, you will be tried as a juvenile unless you have murdered or raped somebody some other really really terrible crime. They will try was an adult that you're under eighteen or try you and juvenile court, and here

country. We have a little belief that you know what we're gonna wipe your record clean. When you become an adult, you might a messed up as a kid, but you're gonna get a second chance out there and life as an adult. Don't worry about your juvenile record me more, which is great. If you stand the straight and narrow right, if you dont, then it's still attached to you. If you start committing crimes again and.

You actually, if you are the juvenile convicted of an adult crime, tried as an adult, and you want to get that expands you together the same process as any adult. Would yes, as well as if you have sexual crime, you have to register for the sex offenders list. Just like you. What, if you an adult right, which is super important, I should say also in its defence Arizona does have a process for destroying juvenile records already yeah. I guess it's just adults gotcha, I'm so that the legacy of the sex registry is kind of a version of the specialised criminal record, depository right yeah. So for many years I guess until very recently states weren't mandated to have sex offender registry. There's a girl named drew Should dean here who is like

here old, North Dakota College student. I remember the three. What do you? I didn't remember you who was abducted in and, I believe, raped and murdered near by a guy who was a level three sex offender in level. Three is like where the justice system is basically like this guy's gonna. Do it again yet he had. Raped than other woman. He kidnapped instead, the woman and he just got out of jail for twenty three years for those crimes, and he did it again it again and one of the ways that he was able to use is because North Dakota didn't have a sex offender registry? Well, they do now all states do now- and this is, I think, like two thousand to two thousand three yet but they named the national sex offender public registry after drew's shedding. So it's very appropriately called the drew shooting national sex offender public registry and basically this is

quickly accessible database. Yeah yeah me go to it and type in where you live in. It will be like here all this expenditure, Abraham, it's pretty disconcerting. Here's apps out there, where you can like see who lives where and you'll, find also that their very frequently there's a like will be one apartment com, something where there's a bunch of them and the reason being because most states have laws where, like you, can't live x, number of yards within a bus. Stop right. You can't live x, number of yards within a school. What have you and in stately floor to their so restrictive that sex offenders frequently have the lake live under overpasses in the middle of nowhere happen in Georgia, yeah that camp I think it's still. There is, I believe, so yeah I think probation offers officers to will set people up in

now that's like the apartment that they go to the Burma, the apartment, but obviously that's a really important complex to But obviously that's a really important thing to have, because sex offenders had the highest recidivism rates of, I think all criminals, yes, that somewhere to three so now there stored on databases. Obviously we ve talked about interpol before and their shared INA internationally they're getting better about that. At least it's not like an open book right. It isn't an open book and in fact you have a legal right to access your criminal records through the full freedom of Information ACT and I loved the FBI. We'll give you whatever they have on yourself or I'll. Send you something that says you Have no FBI record ya think. You're only in the national crime

information centre database. If you have been booked and finger print about the FBI or the f, has your record right? I'm sorry, the interstate identification index I think that's the one where you're only entered if the FBI obtains your fingerprint data so like some by his send it to the FBI Italy's, but the F b I did. They maintain a national data, of criminal records. I don't know if they maintain at night and it doesn't say another deal. The deal t maintains one for traffic violations like big ones. We should imagine that if you ve been convicted of some sort of traffic offence, spinning ticket, what have you or anything it's not on your criminal record. Yet unless it was like the hack, your homicide or something like that that without being the right yeah, I think so. Instead, it sir things like do you eyes

splendid licences, driving without insurance, fatal accidents, yeah there's their maintain on the national driver register, which is separate from your criminal record surgery. You couldn T records out there, maybe maybe a perjury about the operation of the vehicle. That's if you ve ever like you get in Iraq in you're, drunk driver and you get your best friend switch with you. It wasn't drunk which, as they should and driver to begin with, that's perjury, that's felony with big deal so check. You can get your criminal record. Yes again, the government can look at any time they want near and employers can wish. You talked about. The top is podcast here with permission. With your permission, it you can't give anyone else. Besides a potential employer or an employer permission to get your record like you can't. I can't get yours even if you said no, really. He kin

it's fine ready now, but an employer can end like we said a regionally. This was this was something that was just very targeted where like. If you were a driver, they want to know if you had any vehicles, homicide the accurate or that kind of thing, and it's getting more more broad in apparently because criminal records weren't protected. There were a member of a protected classier, so you can be subjected job discrimination based on the fact that your criminal record they used to be like free wheeling late. They would tell you to your face and maybe smacking the mouth when they told you that you weren't you.

Job, because you are a crook right of course, have started to rule in people's favours finding that some laws or some convictions have been shown to disproportionately affect, like black people, Hispanics area, so that job discrimination based on these kind of convictions amounts to racial discrimination, and some courts have found in the favour of people who were turned down for jobs, even though there is no law, rap defence against job discrimination based on criminal records. Interesting and you could also be discriminated against for like public housing yeah, I have often heard go and in general treated differently. People can be a jerk to you if you have a criminal record with no right

at the end of the one exception which I thought was interesting was that if you ve a phoney for drug use, they can't use that against. You did not give you a job is part of the re him as the rehab process stature. That makes sense. They are the very powerful rehab law got out, loophole put in me. Well, it certainly strikes a of knowledge on the side of people who believe that people, drug problems are like you know, have addiction problems in that they're, not so bad people right. Give them here's the thing: saving money with Geico was almost better than playing pick up. Basketball. There's always that guy who joined your game, he never passes the rock he instantly bricks theories, and who can we have you and then put his hands up and say no foul, no foul with Geico its ease the switch and save on car insurance, no need fake, an ankle sprain because you're absolutely exhausted. So

which in save Geiger it's almost better than sports, so do you talk to your employer and there like look? We know you have a criminal background, but the dog, the test dog we brought out like you, so we're gonna the chance on you, but we want you to pony up some money. They're gonna tell you to go, get what color fidelity bond. I had never heard of this. I had neither like I've heard about it in the case of. Like Robert Downy Junior needing extra insurance after you went through his like bad drugs face this without delay, the same thing it probably is but inch but movie companies production companies will have to like purchases massive extra entrance or not be allowed to work with him at all, used to pick the liability, but not anymore course, nicer, clean up his great, so yeah, there's a regular people, not just Robert Downy junior regular people can get fidelity binding to its amount, soon

Sharon's policy that you get or your employer gets on. You saying we think you can wear screw up, maybe and we all right sure were better hands. You not fired, but but We need, to put it mildly, skirts up on the spur us here firearms you gotta go through each background check when you purchase firearms here in this and don't worry. You won't have to weigh very long for your fire on the allies. It psych instantaneous as it, but if you have it I'm a record! If you ve been indicted for crime, of more than a year and prison. You are an eligible to purchase a gun, which means your disk and have the by went off the street, like other experts from us, what you said, it doesn't preclude you from travelling to other countries necessarily, but, as everyone has ever been through customs knows they can do

whenever they want in any country pretty much. You know that they have to allow you to come in there to invite you and like a vampire than it does it preclude from coming to this country. If you have a criminal record either unless you're on a boat from Cuba, that's right, but the same idea we can deny people coming in, they suggest to get a visa if you come to this country to work and have a criminal record. Now, good luck with that. What I say I say the same thing: good luck! Everybody! getting out no there's another went down in our endless string of law enforcement, public health that we definitely sweet like ten. At this point, if you want to learn more about criminal records and all that kind of thing has the forty four judge you if you search for that you can this type it in to the search bar it like. I said it has the works, dot com,

and I said, search bar. So it's time for a base, but questions We have two hundred and thirty these, and so yeah was going to start here, the Callaghan, if you were to dive into a pool, filled with any kind of fruit. What kind of fruit would you choose? Mango Pineapple. Jerry follows when a half hearted a team mascot work. That's crazy question! I think that's a request for a shell, like demons got it. Celine Chuck shook took two says: that's the best,

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is the best guarantee. Thirty August, great and Louis to me is like a time for the best guarantee that he's like did he's making like french or else movies weak on television is pretty made I watched the killing. I watched reward the The killing yeah well axing. Isn't it is found and down. The feeling is it taxing from is depressing walking dead. I want you time, there's like, like eight shows like that's, threw off the rails about the task of the years. I am. I haven't seen the cover user sway, predicament DVD Van Spy. Or of the rail are so that's. It were now to get one more edition of this in the more rapid. Ok! Thank goodness I've! U want to catch up with me in Chuck, digitally speaking you

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