In Oshkosh, Wisconsin, the city known for making overalls, tension was mounting between two Marine veterans over the repair of a vehicle. Both were highly trained with weapons and both were trained to “shoot to kill.” On August 4th, the conflict came to a boiling head, and now one of them stumbled, wounded through a driveway full of casualties.
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we buy stuff. We call
Stuff we hoard stuff, we pile up stuff and then we have to
and space to put all the stuff
Have you seen those massive temporary storage facilities that are popping up all over the country there in every major city
as a place to store all your stuff,
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Site, unseen too great show
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in the? U S,
put a lot of value on their stuff.
even when their stuff is crap thing is
the law doesn't value your stuff. Quite
as much as you might, and if you do
I too take the law into their own hands and go ahead and protect your stuff
You don't want anybody to come near it. You don't want anybody to touch it will then,
You might find yourself in the end
without any stuff. At all,.
John was a helpful guy. All I wanna do accomplish on August. Fourth, twenty twenty was
Indeed, as a mechanic, he knew that he could help out his friend Jim.
Ratner and his daughter, Rebecca by installing a new radiator in their shabby tahoe. She needed to return to her friend.
Was a pleasant day and Oshkosh Wisconsin on Minnesota Street. The neighbour
consisted of small middle class homes, many of them
LT in Cape COD or bungalow style.
Back. His home was a typical example of these.
she shared driveway with her next door. Neighbor only
Dr Weir extended about fifty feet further coming to stop
her open garage
As family friend John was repairing the Tahoe Jimmy,
back a watched and helped while they were-
conversing and enjoying music
is close neighbour who was quarantine due to covert exposure. Just
happened to see what was happening to her.
Something annoying that would
become startling.
Nor would I be radically sessions
I say at least two or three so the two windows at
You're lying
That window.
The curtain in the window? Open close, the back of the house we're both on our driveways
again. I am by the Irish looking
tired,
I didn't see anything on there, their an emotional or anything Smith. Did it
then, when you want one,
We ve all been there right here. It is,
Let us take a little nap in the neighbours, are barbecuing or partying or having a yard, sale or
getting shot. Oh my god. Oh my god,
Airlines, Kory Kory,
Seventeen
a twenty four hour by hour during our people shot shown here.
A guy he's working on how these blue
what bought a five hundred Minnesota Nakashima
I was there.
well he just laughed bought in my house,
somebody adventure, you, then
for years,
how about you
Three
Adrian Brandreth now which why even my neighbour them in Chicago
hang up
I don't want to up. I want you to stay on the phone with me. What exactly is going on there
Are you going?
What
shot
I guess
my neighbour he came over here. It's funny.
how hard it is to say, sir,
police are on their way as fast as they can get there, but in the meantime I need you to tell me what's going on
some people are just really bad communicators or just really
out of their jobs?
clearly the neighbour appearing from her bedroom window was
the only one to be annoyed or startled
Not only did the nine one. One collar complain about John getting blood all over his house, but he was also clearly frustrated by the nine when one operators constant questions, but
it's not. Every day someone comes your door in a bloody panic,
I have argued that it over there, but I just want to figure out what exactly by on how many just got a guy does want to bring those by shot and government to come and go, and I want
You don't know the priority that data
watching tv you, my house, guided, get out
Looking for you and shorter,
five years after the offered
as doing all
okay, while you are not going to find the fine, fine, fine,
I am on the way over there. You know what this aspect or anybody anything look like
Now goodbye
Also. I gotta see this sum
people are just not good at handling crisis. Take his.
acts and chill did maybe
sulphur, some of that new legal c b d- everybody is talking about these days.
To his heroics, though of John convinced the man to call nine one, one
I was on the way what they were unprepared.
For it was the carnage
that awaited them back at Rebecca Garage. It was about eight thirty, last night, when one resident on Minnesota Street, her three consecutive pops before hearing a man yelling for health in his driveway another tells us she thought the popping was just fireworks. This was the neighbor who was looking from her bedroom window and there was a
their piece of information she had for the police
she saw the man. Do the shooting?
and he was someone
they all knew
man she saw inner neighbours. Backyard has now been identified, as Josh aid authorities believe he shot three people behind this home last night, the one victim
Fifty nine year old man was dead at the scene. Another man identified only as a fifty seven year old, as well as the thirty three year old woman who lived in the home or injure they're, both in stable conditions at a local hospital police who continued invests. Even the shooting today did not release a motive for the attack, but they did tell us. The victims all knew the suspect. We also learned the suspect. Josh aid was arrested hours after the shooting near his home in Monticello. That
Green County south of medicine. We know aid was turned over to Oshkosh police he's after Winnebago County jail awaiting formal charges. Authorities expect more information on the shooting to be released in the criminal complaint
after the Madman, who was now known to be Josh AID
bed from the residents to
penalties, way and confine path of destruction to injured and one dead,
add man shot in the head at point. Blank range was Rebecca his dad.
but why did Joshua aid?
a marine veteran,
family man, Jim Gretna, who now lay dead in his daughters driveway did he have a grudge?
and what was it about Rebecca, wish
also a victim like family friend Mechanic John, who was now
running for his life after being shot in the face
Hey you use, shot? Ok, let's get you back here. Let's get you back here. Get back here, get back here come on following following clear:
You got you out of here, get up here and run it
Are you shot annually in the face
got a gunshot to face macaroni squad,
their over there.
Now he shouted the phrase regulars
Sarah Career, no Oreo around zone, one of
got worried that the Seattle once again
I'm gonna go gun shower, I live
work an eye for an eye nor the guy
I think, pulled out a girl and worse yet the body he took off at all
I got a car, my car, the guy that shot him took off in a red car. That's all! I got right now, John
is barely intelligible.
After having his teeth, literally blown out of his mouth until
An ambulance arrived office.
Had walked him a couple of blocks and positioned him under a tree because
well sure whether the scene of the crime was still active and they
weren't sure
where the shooter was until John managed to tell them now it was.
And the return of the scene and assess exactly what had happened to her
Becker and her dad?
why they were targeted
by someone they knew
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on August. Fourth, twenty twenty nine.
on call was made by a frantic and frustrated man who lived on Minnesota Street.
Cash Wisconsin, he replied.
that a male who was shot in the face entered his home and was
bleeding all over it,
The wounded man claimed there
other victims, but then took off after asking the call nine on one
the assailants identity would quickly be discovered and
determined to be.
Military veteran Josh aid, it was
thirteen by the witness neighbours at the vote.
I'm new Josh aid later on assent.
Puzzle peace would emerge indicating that Josh knew the family very well through Rebecca.
Who was also a marine
veteran walk of Ediths wiser,
Could you can walk? I wanna get you wanna, get you up to an ambulance will take away from here. I come this way.
for forty one have the ambulance me me with a guy with a gunshot
northbound from Minnesota tour. Sixteen, you still reason Andre okay, so good got there. Okay, I I can't really tell you're, walking and talking which is good right now,
let's hope so right here,
later we all who comes back, we're not not least finds it. Ass Adele sit down,
I gathered two other victims that were shot and it sounds like they're. Just let them know and let them know let us know if they're more severe than him they're going to be more than more severe times. I'm worried about
This diminutive man with an eighties hair, cut and slurred speech was.
more concerned about the others rather than about getting safely to an ambulance, it was all
he could do to keep him focused on himself and his injuries, but Jim had a right to be concerned
the scene he ran from just doesn't happen every day in Wisconsin
we're forty one. What's the status of the other two there are they more worse than the guy? I have way of an ambulance here, much okay, so, okay take him. We got one with a head injury and the other one's the response
officer was obviously sparing John from the truth about Jim Status, so
change the subject and asked John what
We actually witnessed before fleeing the scene, you're changing a radiator, so you were working on whose car you are working on back in Charlotte. Are you under the car in the car guys are at higher or higher
although you guys doing it, may appear glare, ok, see you you had done. You have finished
changing the radio you radiator you turn around and what are you here,
the guy,
me, oh god, at the scene,
Fifty nine year old, Jim was found lying face down next to the car that was sitting.
The driveway
This had rested in a pool of blood. Next to a toolbox, surrounded
I pavement adorned with spots of oil and Greece, the suspect,
the weapon yielded three hundred and eighty caliber shall casings at the scene
Josh. Aid was known to have a three eighty hand, gun one man
The three were enjoying the sun, enjoying each other
company and some music after all,
back? His parents had only recently moved from Nevada back to their home state of Wisconsin, where they met felon.
and had four children together,
was retiring anyway,
to be near their children in Wisconsin again the next.
in it: Jim was killed life
so fleeting an affair
for what
forget his chance to enjoy his retirement or his
grandchildren who we found him here, the right tool
That is right up against his face, like he fell into a kind of right up against his body, so no Paul's when we got there
and then I looked in front and you could see something right
his forehead clearly
pretty Begone shovels
Officers had already turned their attention to Rebecca
cowering inside the garage hunkered down covering her ears,
who can get her out of here. So we can get tourism
saving measures after being shot
in the ear,
the bullet lodging in the soft tissue at the back of her skull.
ECHO was nauseated and her head was buzzing. Typical, simple
of a severe head injury
the Rebecca. How do you know where you know where he would go or where he lives? Where does he live? He was he lived in Monticello in all the address at all. He investigated as much as she could. I mean she's she's, given us the most information so far, I'm trying to get her name and everything, but I know there's ex boyfriend. He showed up at the house and at some point started just started, shooting everybody and they were on the back garage area, I'm assuming they working on a car,
and he shows up- and that's all I know at this point. I don't know much more discuss he's like China and of all
the way out here, initially
Rebecca was in no condition to articulate the sequence of events that day, let alone
possible motive. John. The mechanic
is ready and willing to tell everything he could, despite the gunshot wound,
to his mouth, a more detailed.
Of just how John knew Rebecca and her family
as well as the exact events of that day, would later become crucial.
explain that his girlfriend New Jim Gretna- and she felt
Would easily become friends because of their commonalities,.
It was the very morning of the shooting, when
actually met the grit nurse and Rebecca, though
the day he volunteered to replace the radiator
on recalled that his girlfriend took him to the home of Jim Angela Gretna about two hours,
as from Oshkosh, where Rebecca lived
the sheeple
very well
me
we can talk and talk.
We need to stop a minute here and point out.
A very revealing detail, John noted that
he and Jim Gretna were recovering alcoholics. That's me
a different from an active alcoholic
strongly suggests that neither was drinking that day
it also hints at the traditional twice
that programme
members use the term recovering.
If you have a loved one in that programme, then you know that for most pay
will the programme works in this town,
Step process members take on a sponsor
who guys them through the levels from level one admitting
are powerless over their addiction to level twelve
carrying the message to alcoholics and practicing the principles in all affairs.
Their steps encourage the person in recovery to make a list of everything they ve done wrong and whom they ve harmed, followed by
actually reaching out to those people to make amends people who are
active in the programme.
very often found doing good deeds for others.
What's with John on that, for me,
a day interesting way? One of the two
step slogans is live and let live.
An idea,
Josh aid had not heard of.
Before making the almost to our drive to Oshkosh John,
was conversing with his newly made friends the Gretna errors at their home, and
covered that their dog.
I was in need of Otto repair. He was happy to respond.
and I asked
allowed. You to do
on indicated that he didn't even know where they were heading when he got the car with Jim and drove off to help Rebecca.
Until they actually entered the town of Oshkosh, he wasn't.
attention to his surroundings. Ya
so paid little attention to the phone call he received from an angry Josh just before they laughed
why should the occasion call on
our
Since my truck,
says
I really am
Ah
Jim and John arrived at Rebecca Place in the late afternoon. They quickly array,
the things needed to repair the tahoe.
Indiana jar
shouting
Around
and
already here
I know when and do
climate.
very high,
Can you
I asked him what time it was.
Hours,
and
I was
Well,
I am
here, I all around
I
Yeah
here
that alone for Josh
right.
We share.
yeah
If you d already figure it out. The red thing John was talking about was the least
beam, leaving Josh's gun and focusing on Johns Face COM
go down
and he did get away with his coat.
Reaction and ducking down and fleeing John
able to get help but help didn't come easily
Remember the man who let John in at the cost of cleaning up the blood in his home
he didn't want to. Let John it
the war
Thursday.
Where did you say,
what do you do?
we all want,
women on the.
Joe?
down
everything
the truck?
Each
I'm not,
in
in machine
tg
do you have a long way
yeah
not very neighbourly for Wisconsin
the mystery of this horrible and tragic day lay with the Tahoe Z,
the time was owned by both Rebecca and Josh.
What aid
known each other for fourteen years through the military where they met.
data for five years, often on
as well as living together for much of
time
Joshua or Josh didn't want
What else touching the Tahoe?
specially a man he didn't know
Josh argue that
didn't even need a radiator. Well, what did he care?
I mean Rebecca, was the one driving it right. The prom
four Josh was that he knew this was the last day of his relationship with Rebecca, because she,
made it clear earlier
a day and the day before that that she had been wanting out of this relationship
time,
kept getting Lord back in by Josh's promises according to
back up
scary to live with
in order to get rid of one of the last possessions linking them together.
like I had made arrangements to return the Tahoe, but then chain
the date when she determined the radiator had a crack in it.
she and her family were setting out to return some of Joshua's other belongings, too.
Josh even offered to come and get things but Rebecca felt. That was a trap
when Josh found out some one else was going to be working on his vehicle evolve.
Here the drive to Oshkosh
to our drive
parrot himself, Rebecca
said no repeatedly
hazardous text where they know and she took his
phone calls telling him not to come well
She didn't answer all the cause they were more
Thirty calls that day within an hour and a half,
but you know how they say it takes too
Joshua had his own version of what happened. Of course,
told a close confident about it that night
Now he was
What is more, I use
a new life
He said,
Basically, what had happened to take care of attacking? Why, as to
and I have to rest
where he was worrying.
It is wise.
It is worth
for over an hour, Josh repeated the question to his friend they attacked me.
Why would they do that three people shot
very close range by one assailant, Josh aid.
now thirty nine year old, Josh aid, was insisting on a very different version of the incident. That day first
Little Bit more about him, despite being,
hired from the Marine Corps Reserve Josh.
His physical frame was less than formidable at.
feet tall. He wait only a hundred and sixty eight pounds making
actually kind of scrawny, his
you'll appearance was rather nerdy and his dark
air no longer covered all of his head
when she was balding.
As an enlisted soldier, Josh had been on active duty for four years
we're being in the reserves, and he was too
Floyd to Iraq twice and to Afghanistan wants just but
where's retirement? He was in reconnaissance and secret operations later.
Josh was also employed as a senior mechanical designer fur g health care of Medicine Wisconsin
ten years in twenty two
and he met Rebecca in the service. Where
with him. Rebecca were senior staff and
If fifteen there began dating a first
They happily shared their interests of gun collecting
and shooting
Whole days at his place target shooting soon
relationship deteriorated and jobs,
explain this on Rebecca
Twenty eight
I wrote a song now.
I didn't
oh god,
time. Josh was living on a small farm in Monticello Wisconsin, just
about two hours, south of Oshkosh?
He also inherited some money and a house when his father died and twenty nineteen he said
Rebecca was pressuring him to sell the house and move with her two Nevada
parents resided at a time Josh.
was not on board by March.
when he twenty the relationship ended, but some of Josh,
property was still at Rebecca S House, including that,
I hope that was
in both of their names, this
was the tahoe at the centre of it all the way
that Josh says he dumped money into,
to make sure it was running smoothly when Rebecca borrowed it but after
separated they both agreed, it would be put in,
Russia's name only
turned to him along with his other stuff, before it
running it, however Rebecca would claim in July
when a twenty just one month,
for the shooting that it needed.
a new radiator after
a produced, a list of other minor things that needed to be repaired in taught Tahoe Josh Easy.
He gave her the money to do so, but
act radiator as Rebecca claimed.
Was not on the list. John,
felt very strongly that it was
necessary
the Josh,
a relied on him for financial support at times, and because
She was estranged from his family. She wouldn't
more than a half million dollars of life insurance money should something
happen to Josh this
was payable
no matter what the cause of death would be.
including suicide, or you
homicide but back to the Tahoe
Josh finally agreed that if the Tahoe needed a radiator, he would go and do the repair
himself,
He had the knowledge and means to do it.
He even offered to come and get the tahoe along with.
personal belongings,
meaning
You
it'll, be trailer
It also has escaped the international trailer at my house. We could easily offer is any offer. I'm Asia
She shot down any off.
Josh made interesting
ways of words she wants. Is this
but I never knew there was and the brand thousand and one and
wheeler other that I have, or on of urban and no relating to survive.
She mentioned John and his old number on the clutch, and he answered the phone and I asked easily Lula's and then I answered yeah. The certification is a no. I don't need a fucking certification have been doing this shit for thirty years, and that is glass and it goes on to cry warranties. The only know it
it's on his way home your turn around, at which point idle him, then don't go work on the vehicle.
I didn't get stuck in situation where
I have asked.
someone without a certification, no crime warranty, two hundred and forty miles, I'm just not comfortable with that when it's coming back into my ownership,
especially broken down on the way and then I'm stuck to the vehicle on the side of the road or get it back.
But Rebecca was moving ahead, whether plan to have the vehicle fixed at her house in her driveway by her family friend, John Josh. Finally,
Aqua acquiesced and made us
second offer
If we
They were are in
I had asked if I was trying to describe to her.
a issue
through
guy
I already there.
As with nature, the age of the vehicle Leander and in the shell. Those balls are probably didn't snap off and if I need it,
It involves the rear, whose is it also nudity,
in association with it. I didn't know their age and, for years, being replaced most likely. Those as well will prevent them from bursting an overt pressures
Generation Rebecca responded that she didn't need anything but had given
M Johns phone number earlier, Sweden
it could be a problem if you just showed up to give them a hand, but he was
with a set up and he
happen to be licensed for Conseil.
Carry, and he just how
and always have his gun with him. Josh
and he arrived in Oshkosh Rebecca place at eight twenty p m. He D.
Making any stops along the way or having anything to drink or vehicle. The jeep was back in the driveway. There was a white car and angle back into the driver. Also I in the driveway or nose to nose with her Diego but are now
it wouldn't block the side door entrance to your house and walked around the back of it, and then she'd shoot up your driveway on the passenger side of my
We see this recession or her g,
and he shall be hours. This was very
different from what Rebecca was saying about her step. Dad Jim Gretna I've been going around,
to my back. Ports were Rebecca. Was
and
walking members you resume
area where she was
resistance of it?
What
behavior
I know
It is only there
was a view. You rose
what was going on in Rebecca's driveway that night, the mechanic John as
Alice Rebecca step, dad we're both in drug and alcohol recovery had they relapsed. I I
well. How, though, what are you going
heard Fernando shoving shouting and she helping her there.
I me in my left side
Josh recounted being struck in the side several times.
causing him to be unsteady,
but then Jimmy stepped up the intensity ye.
I heard you
delete showers
We
as you all around you,
clearly Josh felt, threatened and helpless.
many times. Would he be punched, but was
doing
and why wasn't she helping them
why
in a visual contact with me. They knew I was there. So I was position
more to the right?
Oh my earlier eleven June,
again, I was
I was literally
find do not have time to.
I guess you, your eyes reflect
I didn't even have time to get it out to the ocean.
I saw the wench
in there
I garage I was on IRAN
No,
I am also shot
Around John was in a timely fashion on his head, as it is ended too.
you love him.
Calloway,
We don't have the time to attack me on my ass and then are not Rebecca.
Was the last one standing JANET
for help next Josh,
Rebecca still in the garage.
I can see Rebecca, has a well then raised that
weapons he says was
small black pistol,
one of several guns she kept around the house, including a three eighty Smith and Wesson Pistol.
and several other firearms, some of which Josh had purchased for
I saw you
and again
the situation
ground.
the inside is still
Josh, had just shot and potentially killed the woman? He loved
trying to reunite with
all seemingly
over a radiator.
Why?
man.
A new house
I agree
You got it back
He was
on their fire? So
I
She now
the
the driveway
You're wrong
as
our Josh was concerned. This was
an all out ambush. He thought
was coming to the house of his girlfriend to help out
although he admitted he didn't want John or anyone else, working on the Tahoe
kept saying he was confused. Why would they attack him? One two three just like that
they were all poised to harmonise one
his fists repeatedly pummeling against Josh. One with a
The instrument from the garage and finally,
the one he loves with a gun. What on Earth
this former marine due to protect himself other. Then
rely on his instincts and shoot to kill.
the.
What are here all night to come,
I'm gonna start
ok,
John,
would never be the same.
forever losing his sense of taste after being shot by Josh aid.
No Josh maintain that the mechanic was coming directly at him with an object in his hands. The facts would
surface a little differently. Of course,
Since John was shot in the side of the face. He was clear.
Turning away
back? His version of what happened was also
very different from the killers
ok,
all the way
and I knew I had to my race
I first
and
What are you doing?
Well, as we were starting to close, we were ragging out the radiators fuck. I was standing next to John
the radio, or so
it's already in front of me,
I will I'm my rights
we're on our way to replace the race for one.
actual boxes
away his rule and when
I happened, town
I turned your work.
later
in the middle of my forehead, and I said what the fuck Josh
fire. Now is your forehead
and he s
and I will be able to move just now.
The next thing I knew
my side.
I have woken up and I have seen a police officer. Ninety two
as for focus and my eyes shifted
I saw my
I remember seeing how old
I remember my name
and also just spoken out for Kung FU, and I was
vomiting and made meteors ringing really really feel like. I did
it's soul.
has he met a while, and I just
It's really how
Unfortunately, Rebecca
Father would not be able to give his version of what happened,
Jim who had gone, is live together and was in recovery,
drug and alcohol addiction was
retire.
concept them.
From Nevada was so recent that Rebecca is almost ex boyfriend. Josh did it.
They had moved back here.
Unaware that Rebecca dad.
was at her house that data repair a tahoe that Rebecca
would soon be returning to Josh the main Mackay
on the job. That day was her dad's new friend John, who was told by boyfriend Josh not to work on the Tahoe,
knowing it was going to happen without his consent
Josh set out from Monticello to Oshkosh on a mission
He maintained that Rebecca assumed he was coming, but both Rebecca
and John declared, they told him not to come
Rebecca, even told them. If you come, the police will be called.
Became anyway.
For that nine. When one call the call that was problem,
led by none other than mechanic. John. After he managed to flee, we'll Josh fled to
He didn't call nine one, one
instead he made a start for some beer and called is long.
friend, then drove back home. Another two hours
during this call Josh claimed he was attacked and kept asking. Why would they do that
but other phrase you repeated was I fucked up
I really fucked up
as he told you much do you know, he's a one year, marine sergeant, okay
Ok,
I have heard this confused and I have known Josh ten years he lost in Boston as he must
and thrown off course when he stopped forbear. Note
his friend implies Josh may have PTSD or repercussions from too many tours
That puts a whole new spin on why Josh may have thought he was ambushed or
Maybe Josh was drinking before he showed up at Rebecca S, remit.
Describe them as a functional alcoholic, and she would know
since her father was in recovery from addiction when
The judge was talking about it. It was why he didn't see any positive events under the shot and he thought at least two.
I never that was Josh's long time friend discussing the conversation he had with Josh, just
after the murders he
we convince Josh to head home.
And said he would stay there with them until police arrived
when the friend arrived at Josh's residence, the
pretty was swarming with cops.
Who had already surveyed the scene.
They appeared inside the windows of his house. They discovered.
Loaded with firearms hey, so he is definitely come.
The house- and he still armed, we just we just had a friend of his pull up. That's been on the phone with them and he's he's told this guy everything that he did not he's coming back here. It sounds like he's got some PTSD issues from his marine corps.
twenty one years in the Marines real confusing he was lost in Madison, so that was part of the problem,
The other part of the problem was that Josh was shit faced
No wonder he got lost in the very
county worked in.
police had no idea how things would go down when you
finally returned and the We hours of the morning
all they knew was that they were
prepared, as they could be
arcades were set up to keep him from gaining access to his house and many are
fears were wearing Swat gear start. The vehicle share, stop
turn off. The vehicle Josh turn out to be a gulf turn. We want
help you Josh, we don't want to hurt you just come out with you
so we had, our, I just said,
what would your hands over your head
we gotta see your hands, put your hands up. It was
quite obvious that Josh was in fact drunk
growing from the Red Toyota. He man,
to drive home after trying to execute three innocent people. His breath wreaked.
have alcohol and he could barely walk a straight line. We just want to make sure you're. Okay, alright. Clearly the car boys, girls, are just stay here:
so you are up in arms gosh and they requested that we try to locate you. Ok, we're gonna, get it!
figured out of her. I do you
there is just. What is this about? How we got here. Just a man down
detained all tend to run
I need two to sling rifles and the other two to help me get him up on his feet
But we just. Why make sure you don't fall down? Ok,
Josh was slurring speech and yeah. You seem confused regression.
Well, what am I being detained poor and am I being detained tonight? We're gonna go contact me. Okay.
I don't understand yet I don't. I don't know what this is about. I don't want to
Who's gonna come thought. This was a very different Josh than the one you heard earlier on
night. Police did not find a placid and composed Josh articulating the details of his case.
They found a scrawny man with a child like demeanor Josh, isn't happening there.
Are going to give you a ride up to Oregon, where you're going to be handed over to Oshkosh Police Department. Okay, give up on that
What what? What am I being charged with right? Now? You are under arrest. They will inform you of the charges up there. I don't understand what I did. It's their investigation, we're just assisting them. So why step out of the car for me? So what? What did I do? That is
you will have to talk with them about that, because I do not know the details. Yeah, I don't know the details either I drove home or that's. Where am I going to take you up to them,
I really do not want
well they're performing yeah. I can step part of the vehicle for the first. For me, alright yeah, I can
I really appreciate it. I mean I'm not trying to be a dick here are like what what is going on
our while Josh.
you would soon find out. What's going,
is that you went on a killing spree
and you are now going to jail.
And by the way PTSD Israel. It certainly is real. Even though
Does get thrown around a lot by people who claim they get
from words. They read online words of
I once after all guys but PETE
I is not what caused this tragedy.
No evidence was found indicating that anyone had threatened Josh that day and Oliver
because guns were accounted for. She did.
not have any weapon when Josh pointed the laser of his gun directly at her forehead.
After Josh's incarceration, he practice
he told himself
He wasn't confused after all this,
is what he said to his long time. Friend
if you don't
stand him above the noise. In the background, his words were, like I said,
you're gonna have to make the story sound good.
You saw, the whole thing
we
I am way
only one person
why
No
Good,
you're Josh was referencing a conversation with his friend, the knight of the killings that,
one got away.
Chuckles a little and says
that doesn't sound good
What does sound good Josh?
was sentenced to life in prison without
the possibility of parole plus,
Are eighty years for shooting his expert?
friend, fairly shooting her father and shooting his friend John. The mechanic, the hero with no teeth
Joshua aid clearly valued his stuff shoot
three people over a shitty use tahoe with a broken radiator,
he clearly valued his possessions.
more than the law would recognise. Unfortunately,
one of those possessions in his mind was his
Ex girlfriend Rebecca, but people
possessions
people are not your stuff. You can't treat them as such, so
well, Josh finds himself
in a small cell,
about the size of a storage unit minus
stuff at all
no tahoe-
Girlfriend no life, no future, except in this
yes, no tv shows will be made note
the personalities will be bidding for the contents of your storage unit Josh, because
there's nothing in it.
other than useless trash
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