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Well and action packed show from the title of my microphone here I am for you guys today. Mark Norman very funny, stand up, he'll be in studio, and Course Athlete Council for Joe Exotic, John M, Philip Sue Gene is gonna shepherdess. very well at the time working, because I have not seen it The new one does look. Incredibly too, thing to watch brine. Were you one of these, a conscientious objectors to Tiger king? Yes, of course, is tv. I have noticed that there are some good stuff. Anti vague other corsairs joke I ignored all tagging was from those interesting I heard. Gina could tell us yet no I've. I've said this before I stand by its watch.

Hillbillies abuse animals for six episodes is, is tat for me, but about there is very interesting characters like I do have some questions for those gentlemen, all right, so I will get into that. I had a couple of thoughts unrelated to the weight. Sorry before you get to them, I have something for you. Oh fanny wow I trusted backpack manufacturing figured they can handle a Fanny pack, nice and in the badge of shame, and so this is good new Fanny pact smell at our allegest.

If it after I put it on, and I was looking for like I stayed away from anything that had like multiple flaps endeavours, new whom they know that caused the problem. In the first place, us very nice, hopefully that's just the two zipper. Did you purchase idea, because I didn't want to give you one of my like Rainbow colored ones while, while that is that is wonderful and practical and legal, I shall down at proudly, and you can do it like the girls. Do you know you don't have to wear it in front like you're, going to Iraq bestow or turning around? I have it on your little touch. Other girls that option. Well where will talk to John Philip, Sir, who said he's Joe exotic sky, but he's really a substantial guys been involve a lot of failures itself, he's no hillbilly, so we'll talk to him about that. also I had some thoughts in general It is not of top in the past.

About the danger and our relationship with danger and not being really We turned up for that. A lot of people would, you know, I can share their seven year old, washes the shit out of their hands before they come back in the house of Covert, is We're shine a light on that and it were doing. In our view that basic you know, your kids got a much higher chance of drowning in the Neighbour swimming pool, but you don't care if he goes to the neighbor's house and hangs out yard, but ya freaked out about covert and I've sort of talk about tuning. Yourself when and how the Moluccas guys it always work. When the ban saws and the oscillating spindle sanders have a very nice relationship with danger. Cause they're gonna lose a finger at any potential any potential Tuesday afternoon, because they have to know how everything works. When I was, thinking about it

of course, the soul, a cow Rittenhouse cases all over the news and irwines talking about it and become politicize, and I was talking to paragraphs about it and so on and so forth. But I was there. I was taken little different angle on it, which is the danger angle in the relationship with danger, which is written house at least staff as the as testimony in the experts and the witnesses of all come through the trial, now He was running with as a our fifteen and that there are fifteen is people call it a weapon of war. They call it a machine gun car, whatever it really looks, more dangerous than it is. I don't think it's used in in battle or got, for instance, by obviously kill somebody with it. But, unlike a traditional hunting rifle it looks scary, yes,

stock. It looks like an assault, yes, and then I think that you there's, probably not that much difference between that and semi automatic right all that you might use for hunting. But this one looks menacing and we have a problem with that, but he had one of those and he was running and here being chased and he turned around and shot one of the guys who was chasing many killed him then, He decided the mob was growing dangerous. The police line was a hundred yards down the road. He was gonna run for the police line, so He started running for the police line, the mob chasing him now keep in mind he's got an eight hour, fifteen any just killed somebody with it. So he's the gun. He will use it and it works and they're changing one guy. Just comes up this like wax him in the head from behind and plan appeals off, then he trip

any falls down and then another guy tries to beat him with a skateboard. Now who were got again. He just killed. Somebody with this, a our fifteen- you don't have any, are sixteen or seventeen you gotta skateboard, but you're going. after much skateboards restart swing and aunt with the skateboard any blow a guy. Why, then, third guy shows up, and he he is trying to get gone away from right. Now he has a pistol this guy, the guy, then sort of brandishes the pistol and is trying to get the gun away and one of them had called by re housing fires, Adam Semi, automatic fires. Adamant in vapor rises up her arm. Basically, What I'm saying is is right, the first

guy get shot with the air fifteen. Maybe that's a flu when the second guy get shot by the guy with the our fifteen, but we have established a pattern. Is Ireland? Has a gun gun has a clip the clip as bullets in it, and this guy knows how to re rack, because he is, he is already. To love your fellow folks. You now may you gotta, go the third guy, with our guys go it in it's not like. I, then he get shot. and then he gets up any runs behind the police line by what I'm saying is It's a lot of these. well, who were shot for months earlier, were giving lectures on wiping down grub hub bags before the roommate brought him into the apartment and know what I'm saying is: let's

That's fine, but if you're gonna do that, then don't chase guys with a our fifteen sets its seems a little out of balance. Your relationship with danger now at as what I'm saying the reality and realities terms as the true to say that you can perceive evidence. You want all around you over. There actually is at court, the twenty five year, spry enough to chase vigilantes down a street. You you don't have a weight problem, you're, not hooked up, you're, not grab and for your inhale our eyes, the cove. It's probably gonna get ya, but the guy. today, our fifteen five feet in front of me, you may get you young, so I was thinking about that. Just weird relationship because at first I thought the first I got shot than the second guy got shot in the arm and then killed the third guy, but two guys got blown away before the third guy plan D, Did they move in

close helium, Kamba yeah. I would be what the hut like is solely on right. I've got a problem with the guy with the skateboard. Is he can't do it from a hundred metre? So I went with it out. He's got a joy. She can either just back on and live defied another day or he can go in with escape board, which he will do so. dear early impressive? it's also weird about you know: people are sort of simultaneously scared of my oh aggressions and completely embolden and aggressive yeah like us, like I've ever met rations it when the cop, as is gun drawn like that's time now, it's time to just drop down your knees, our do not keep going at the cop as of weird relationship. We have with danger. Do you guys have thoughts about the judge reading his Christmas cookie catalogue during the hearing?

judge boy he's right for fodder. Girls are false: move Josiana, eccentric, eccentric, he's yelled at the prosecution, don't call of victims he's looking at the cookie catalogue. Yet according to Mark I spoke to- and I think I'll drop on Friday that reasonable doubts have sent very long drill down on this written ass case and or the judge. First off I mark if he had been yell that by a judge who overheard many till, I regret that it's not it's. It's not is bazaars, rethink it in almost all, of course, but you really are that quite a bit by by judges number one number to that, the judge, was most Staff was, I think, the fifth amendment where you have the right to remain silent, so he didn't like the fact that the press

gaiters anyway. You never talked about it before that which pass the job because he has a right not to talk about errors, instructed not to talk about it, well doubts available. Now. Ok, inherent good dad drill down the crying was exquisite he said yeah. We can talk about crying here that you know as far as putting year, your witness are your client on the stand. The clients choice ultimately sure they get this. Even if the even if their defence objects a matter of fact, Mark had declined. That said, taken a stand and Mark said, do not take them, Stan you are and he took, the staff rule has found guilty and they always go and survey the jurors. There was one and what was the evidence when we learn that, like the tea essay, I've got lane crash in other when a reconstructed in older break

down and he said well when he took the sand enough. That's what did it for We thought it was innocent tell than, and that's what did it, an mark said that the lawyer he did in this case he go on the record is saying I Don't I try to talk about a right which is the accurate for the record sake, but it's also for your sake, is an attorney because you don't be. Oh he's an indian right. All the ITA take the stand and law here I want to be like on record. I like your step down. Medea. Like ok, I'm saying it's against. You write a mini bike with no helmet. I'm telling you, I think it's a bad idea, but I hear you're, eighteen and a half, and I can't control you. You know so I M here thoughts about that The judge he said there that happens. A lot is wacky. It seems like he said that he was annoyed by the prosecutor because they have this

conversation and not only one try the legal terminology, but before they try to case. Again from the Georgian ago, we want to bring this n and we're gonna bring that an end. ago. We want to bring the fact that he had another girlfriend who sang claims. He was physically abusive and the judge about nine not bring about in that's got to do with this or he'll go. You can bring it, but once he tells you you're not bring it in you down and then you bring it in these past failures. That's that's part of what happened. the judge Then there is the. concept, its it's a little more than that. I am concerned. Percy theorists, there's theory there step concept that the prosecutor is doing this to get a mistrial which something Garriga thought. Dershowitz thought that you can

Essentially I said it is it is it like this, then I made this example unreasonable down. I said If you are a prize fighter and You are getting pummeled, and it's the seventh round and you just jobs in you you're not gonna, win this fight. You throw a low bow and then have the raft like step in and go. Do it again and we call this bow Rhiannon Domain and then you throw another low, bow and You don't quit on your store. They ve called the fire, but then the boy Your cans gonna come rang in, but the raft scenarios that judge he doesn't want to call the fight. If the rough calls the fight, the judge, calcified, the beer cans come in on on them too, so little more nuanced than that. But there is a theory that the prosecution would like a mistrial outward like it would like. It called EL on their record, essentially

Well, it's like. If you got pummelled for another five rounds, and then it went to the judges and it was a unanimous decision, it's better, just to have a disqualified, more non trial or whatever to the kind of keep the analogy. other, but I dont know thoughts. When do you guys know the exact same thing? Were I don't boxing? Is walls you dividends like you know, there are things you can do to get out, fight. Yeoman have called like you to do, and I want this to go down as as it now or whatever she tiki. Oh, it goes down as a devolved. Geisha are no flow contest or wherever the terminology is. I thought the exact same thing, not knowing, of course, as much Andrew Woloda. The only guy in Heaven wait, history, just as a piece of boxing trivia Andrew go out as an insane polish man and he in fact was a heavy weight. He was good but he was a little sporadic. He wasn't is consistent and

go out, was reading the shit out of The heavy weight champion at the time big, eighty four, not eighty, I mean trying to think of that woman now start of the next Riddick brow. Riddick bow, you mean. The shit out of Riddick Bow and I don't know, it's gone all Andrew go out as I and then throws the low bluff and add reflect bring it up, bringing then he throws a low below again and- the raft like I will. I will the doktor Why is it then throws another lover then then Andrew Alot of who I guess it's insane egos back. There was still between around in his his. his team is like your winning. It's fine, you're gonna, be a heavyweight champ or the world know They just tell no more body patterns. I don't want to mark where they land just just jab, for that

three rounds wearing away with the strap goes right on our terms, the lava LA blogger and at some point there after gets involved us it's over, which it we're. Stopping this. Why I Think it was a heavy weight fight if Riddick Bow MAX You can figure it out of Riddick Bow, had the heavy weight title at that point. If he didn't He would have been next in line for the heavy weight I'll heavyweight title sheet. Millions and millions of dollars on the table. I don't if we move back to Poland is insane, but he would not. He would not stop at, but not. because it works. In this analogy. He was waiting the fight that literally, that ongoing and more MIKE Tyson putting the ears like each kind of wandered out at a certain point, like those going my way there. Their management, but was looking to get himself back into the mix for the heavy weight championship. so he was in the max are trying to get back in the max, and

a lot of donors, these are very it's pretty. It's pretty funny Go out of this is big power stared and they weren't these words hello's. there are. Three paths. Are those of cardboard you're? Not you see, you see the ones go wide every once in a while. They just catch the belt line, not not him. He punched him so hard in them just do it. There was an accidental now combo now like he just wanted to be disqualified after winnings. What round was that in MAX? Apparently? Does the EU have at their word anyway, our so I will add enough. Regulation he's gotta, be a hot mass about now roused the end of nine

is winning or sluggish, while would have been a ten round fight because it wasn't a championship fight and he was a head on, although all the scorecard Let's say Gina is buying a house. Maybe once pigeon Fraser, he coin. To me. Balls and Sarah. Let's talk about the new phrase that can be patched John forty one was content is high guy. I wanted a good, though it's an honor to get the idea. I also sorry, no short that we have talked a Gerda cried a bit about the pudding. your guy in the stand, and he said well, you gotta decide who this scenario: hovered Roy, I know we all have went to high school with being ball that you start agitate. Damn the jump over there might or might not learning, not go right right. Now, though, they ask him

requesting that, can they do the dry right? You can pay You can also understand that, oh persons, emotional, that might are crying if you start drilling down with them on this of maybe he'd the guy's been with. Four x amount of months. I'm sure he's cried several times talking the k, serenity doing proudly in front of him, so is with his guy actually knew, but it really was zero sneak a peek at the jury, while he's crying is that do we believe it was faint cry? I've never seen crying like that, but I cry weird known as possible. Cries weird. here he seem like games having a panic attack. That's all right again looks different, but back room. I daresay you well being Think it was fake. Do you think was crocodile tears? I didn't personal. Did we see any actual moisture out I'll drive down the face? I didn't see any now. I just saw a lot of visual contortion, yes was again. Maybe that's the way the out the highest Russ environment related

life, is on the line you're Ireland, Witness Box in your own life. If I were, if I were his counsel Would they, like? I didn't put him up to those. I didn't want him on the sand. Is it didn't? I mean we're like people are literally laughing at him. You know it's not like it's. He didn't. It doesn't seem to have gained any sympathy points because it was so odd and in the little like we know it just just didn't. I dont know it's really moving people well sure we hear it none. I guess we have. We should find your opponent. We have more ogden fake you I mean, I mean there's a little bit of that, but it was like this. Is this really weird mere deserted gas? Dude is now I thought had contacts like my feeling is. Is this guy. You know what crime went down. He was seventeen probably had pretty bad year, gas, that I read your call

not yet our eye on terrorism and a white supremacist didn't get and devastating hockin. He also you no eighteen is technically and adult I don't know, I can't higher and I was eighteen, I, your brain with unfolded. The Agnes see, to me. Why was more authentic? That's why I felt like I felt like we ever hear weird sneeze versus a to write. You not only the Algerian, I that I'd be fake when a weird sneeze, like my mom, does she does a chow I will see we'll see what it sounds like yours

what s wrong anyway said snaky life in his brain God, as I can honestly guess. So it's hard to say where he looked at the job, but but thing, is if, if I also, if I were a council idly look, if you're gonna break down now's the time you know I just don't it does it. You can sort of sea behind the curtain. I guess when Europe is jaded, as we have all become I'm not. I think we're right. I mean it. If it helps

decry the that is more motivation to cry, but let's poverty, this, why? What gives an eighteen year old check it I mean I would she cries weird. You know just but why is weird crying the deciding whether its inauthentic cry cries in a way that I have never seen a human cry before so I know why don't I mean I have nothing to do Aren't you cause I've, never seen anyone break down it in that maybe I'm just very soon. People like have a real yeah variety reaction asked but with, but both no actual tears coming down their fate. I've never seen that before. Ok, I've had my etiquette acts way, but I've never seen that single over the top, but, like I used to use his maybe on the line or release is yours is a dog like what he was facing? Buddy. It's high stress situation. Maybe that's how you, maybe cries expresses emotion, unusually, viewers, a pleasure,

the picture, so someone crying thus now you picture well. I would make the argument that, let's just say it was, let's say completely it premeditated right. I would argue if you said, like you're, gonna crime there, it's gonna help the attorney said it. I was discussing Sir premeditated I argue you would do more conventional. Furthermore, I agree with you a kind of textbook like that, moreover, Adele dollar Nobel right right, like a little more standard cry that wouldn't make it seem is bizarre, is it is. It seems if it was pre meditated. That's that's my tat. Now I get that, right. Now we have the jury as sneak peek a look over here yet quickly.

there are still Might the here's my thing? It's not. Provable one way or the other but considered considering what he's been through and what is possibly facing you can't go. It was found. because it's unknowable now at last We find an email or seller or Amelia Orson. Isn't I'm crying before I can check this document? Is then you could video? Does this work years here in two thousand and seventeen watching the end of old, yellow dry is a clown bombshell news. Let's talk to John you're, so I believe, because I need some something more tangible to not believe them. Let's say I was talking to John Online three John Forty one Wisconsin, Hi guy, who suffer

You wanna talk. You thought you wanna pitch new phrase. I got it and I idea for nobody like I'd like a man for one year stagnant generally always drop a knowledge asked how the world should be thought they could be called critical if you allow a bad guy see. Eighteen, that's guide, yeah you can ice acronym MA am that right, let down MAX repaired and Critical s theory. Thank you, John segment that's good John, no Oprah how's the as the temperature over there in Wisconsin, I mean why call yeah. I didn't mean that part, but

with the trial Neverland going on a literary ass, the weather was where I was I was held. We were people, remember the twenty seven minutes conversational had leading into the Wisconsin call, but where was cause, he was never mentioned. Vs wherewith cancer is never mentioned. It is in Wisconsin and I think the guy That is an earthly arm. I guess curiosity, My friends only discuss the two large eyes. so they're, not in a boarding up windows or anything. Now, how can I get design? Thanks for thanks for the new idea, those really good right now gina her home curious about this to forty five Charlotte I am a huge fan, unless it every day

you should, he shouted save me. The soonest genus I've ever beside you and I wondered whether it bothers me. She talks about how she could never afford a house and I'm hoping that maybe you more can finally get a house in California and my girlfriend loves her so disaster. I swear to God. I dont know this man got you sound, gainfully employed on a bolshevism exterminating business, which you know so: yeah yeah, It's in the inflation out here, like literally in in my neighborhood. You know neurons almost a million dollars a house, it's just it's just a joke with Kosovo bullshit buzzes manure, Furthermore, as drivers is not very satisfactory terminator, you have heard him talk about Anson in his house elucidate. Now, please,

I believe in the exterminating now allow no, no, no! No. I airs what I will say about the exterminating business, because I have had a few exterminators something you get when you get to certain bracket. Darwin and people A lot like when you see a commercial for him, Berger, Carl's junior new, triple patty, make an eight hour in our network, looks really good horse. and we're gonna Carl's union order it. It will least looks something like that: yeah, it's, a little smaller leaning, not lit, is well bad. It's still got three padding I struck in and Bacon ran the Starman, ADA Commercial as a guy guy, looks like Joel Mikhail Authority, wonder Joel Mikhail working man, rash from the Shaven Gm Scotland,

tie his pulse. Darts stopped short talk: Dan, four percent body, fat, poles in and brands thinking we value tag, Metz name tag match walks, peace cordial with the with the homeowner. Then he goes to work invisible. Radar goes out over the house which zapping all all creatures, within a national Ryan. I need check and under the house, he's got his head because, under the crawl space Gus Head up in the attic zapped app that India see, does the invisible perimeter, then there's each green, laser lights go round the house. Now we ve got a reality. Guatemalan guy shows up in t shirt, so Can a cigarette he's got the hut inspire, and you see him just walk around half she's. Just he sprang the outside. How does the perimeter fucking dog could be sleeping? I did have a re right over there. He sprays that thing like

add a regime like bad guys hinting lines on a roadway words like the spraying over the weeds on the rents and there's a beer can out there. This spray, rather than ever, really must down spraying around there's now is that he comes in. He spends a farce of their therefore Seven minutes there not doing the full parameter that stake anything out there just spray. This Hudson David around to get the bill And then later on, when you get, the answer is really nothing you can do. But per, could you come back again set an accurate action of your business, Scott Yep much of this, shipping, a lot of money, that's good, but Junior to get ass. You make a lot of money. Becomes. Actually I do come back out. Do the thing I don't do the organ thing just made so what's it what's regular size, you out two thousand square foot family,

home in your neighborhood run Well, I'm a North Carolina whole given in California about a hundred forty five hundred dollars that I do I do over. What is your view on the share of all? Let's see what your mortgage payment Adam mortgage. I can't afford our own house now, because the house pledges are so crazy. It's like two hundred fifty thousand dollars to buy out here now. I know that sounds cheeky landscape, about my twelve hundred year. Are your aunt but mortgage on a hunter fifty thousand dollar houses thousand dollars in dollars alone. Five, I think, of the less than a thousand a month. I got thank you for that Jack in the mail brass. If I love you, you no good. You know raise thanks man. I pleaded, I think it's more about like what like isn't

our policy like can't there be. I mean I hate, I'm sorry to tell you this homeowners and sellers. What we can me, some sort of a fuckin cap to give us a fighting chance to buy a house. I need them I'm on red friend I get the stupid alerts everyday. I get this by the way below wasn't the word on the street that they were buying the house than flipping them themselves learn some sort of nine. There is an end all there is no way for your average Joe who is gainfully employed to ever get but all into it. It's in there, I don't know I don't know what you're no luck, the, where heavily regulated we're, not building a lot, a new stuff. That's the way, heartened that re too tough out here to build so inventory, that's down and put it buyers are up and that's how the market is driven out John Philips attorney for lead, council, Ferrajo, exotics gonna be with us all. We can talk to him about the all the right now

case. If we want, we can talk to him about the Travis God case and he's actually in an interesting position of one of those like the enemy of the enemy. As my friend, because he was representing someone on Carol Basket, he's even interesting guy. So what came about all that first day. About simply say once you, home homeownership now, some coming to feel safer. Well, there's no better time. The now this week are friends that simply say for giving them. show listeners early access to their black Friday deal deeper percent off everything you need indoor, an outdoor cameras, comprehensive sensors around the clock. Monitoring by, frame, professionals who send help the instant he needed name best, some security, two thousand twenty one by: U S NEWS and world report easily customize, a system for your home online and minutes even get free costs recommendations. simply saves biggest discounts. This is it of the year

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your king to is the shouts of Elba Wednesday on net flax John, is, was led council for a joke. Zadok or maybe is lead council for Joe Exotic, as is that an ongoing thing still am, and at a huge fan of of things, Adam Corolla, for as long as is I can probably not one. I admit, while as that, your failure like now in back at the back of it now so let's talk first I've I hear Joe exotic has prostate cancer and you don't think he's gonna make it more years in prison with medical care in prison five years with prostate cancer. Probably not probably not a good prognosis. good news, You never there's never good news when you have cancer, but the the silver lining too that to that Tragedy is its

stage, one stage too, they are continuing to look and other places. He's got testicular testicular examination coming it's it's cancer in federal prison is, is hell on top of a hill where she being housed in what are the conditions, because there's a lot of fun we have a lot of range. We have certain club fad. We have worries about the January six, riders being and solitary. It's like. We seem to have a lot arranges to wow. We how's our criminals. You ve got everything from the stories of Martha Stewart, too, you know the art space line of don't send me to bang me in the blank prison raw and show Joe is in what is called the federal medical Center in Fort worth taxes to be a medical grade, federal prince but they ve lost a lot of their certifications,

I visited there their few times. It's nice enough dorm room kind of housing, but it's prison and the food socks, and as it is, there's no ipads. None of that. I went to a maximum security. Prison wants out here are a hundred miles away from here. To do a man show bet who Jimmy and well, who we're gonna hang out with a bunch of murders. There are like these are the murders that don't try to murder other people in prison, and so we give an acoustic Qatar and they can kick around a handy shit. I met as soon as a sharp and a spoon. They're gonna go back the whole way, as others even kind of a prison within president and the shoe the act. So let us show the shoe ripe, Joe Meantime, the shoe Joe is currently in the she. Why so

He got caught with little contraband. One of these things found yet and I M so he's he's spending a little time and she went on our public. That is by the way is the sheer where they have them the guard sort of in the middle and there's a as am I making this up the slot so with Terry Holdings Ovid? That's your servants, Yad. You know when I started this case. We didn't do the federal criminal was as as regularly I do civil rights in several side more by so you know aids. I've learned a lot about it in its unpleasant in for a guy like Joe who is always he's gotta be connected. Super gregarious always needs to talk. It's you know hell, it's it's terrible. So he he's in by himself. He has I think one hour a day outside on the outside of the small room, so we know you're, you cast quite

wide net from life. EL standpoint, so we thought we might want to talk to you about the Travis Scott after a world thing, I I Talk de La Mark Garriga us about a half hour ago about that he called the attack by the way, but anyway, What can I do with Margaret goes? Neighing voice can be long. Tell him I'm in an option a couple of years ago, two to go to lunch with it round since happen, and now I'm gonna be untied urging and now he might need a lunch with me. I'm just kidding backpack but, like I literally paid to go to lunch with the guy, and I can't I can't get- I can't get a date with them, because a covert so tell him I'm ready for that lunch. Our railways were the winning bad and they mark go it alone. with Mark Garriga sweepstakes I was I was. You know you, it's it's always about you're, trying to find the smartest guy or gal in the room He certainly done it at a high level

Shapiro become a pretty decent friend of mine and in those you know. level of why you're, just as so much to hand down teach Well, I don't wanna get to personal, but what's the winning bid to go to kebab way, I'm going down with arrogance which I can do for fuckin free any day the week by that already yeah, I'm just gonna fly over and urges you just described just come over. I think it was grand or to grant you know. I went to a good cause. I don't even it's been so many years. If I get you it was good business still. I mean it's always good, always good to be connected. Just first too private airplanes. You could occasionally hopper ride on its. We ve been known to do so

yeah his his thing was that no real criminal there is going to be hard to find criminal liability for, like Travis Scott cases on stage in their music and noise. Can we really hard to prove that? But there may be some criminal liability somewhere in Kay sort of I don't know it be hard to find criminal stuff against Alec Baldwin Butter doesn't mean we're not gonna find some criminal behaviour will and somebody's already suing em for PTSD. Writing so people, like Mars, there's a good or no abolish the outbreak of everyone everywhere. I mean if you are trampled killed or injured, there's gonna be losses, but if you were just that right, you're gonna, there's gonna be lawsuits. Thoughts are. What do you see these things develop with the travel sky, though in an earlier in earlier with the filing about lawsuits that darn thing

I've been Saturday and I follow suit, I get it, but that don't they. Had been Saturday in one of the usual press conference. Lawyers already had a lawsuit found Sunday I don't even court even open, summarised as is beyond ambitious by it. Happens is then the press announced the law suits and you get more client instead jump on the wagon and That is a tragedy. There should have been lost, but Sometimes you want this little expression got due diligence to occur first. By Everybody's gonna be sued, there's there's whoever was packing. Oh man, you know if there was some drugs, there are some drug issues. I think that people are saying, were, were passed round. That's related! That's criminal, but but you have a civil liability, is you're gonna, get it tearing apart. Hopefully they were highly insured, but yeah dry, graven Girgis. How could I not that you know the people on the stage civil liability, essentially criminal liability

Dear me, there was like flashing blue and read you don't like in the crowd that didn't leave to how our interests, Denmark thing it does fall, but well the people at the people warning in I mean there was so much talisman. But callousness isn't a crime. I know there's there's no good samaritan law generally, unless you put somebody directly in harm's way. You don't really have to save on you gotta step over him and go about your business in America, but but the civil liability is a negligent standard, and so that's that's easier to accomplish. We are also talking to your hero, Mark Garriga us about their the Rittenhouse case. and we don't need, in all the nuts and bolts of that, but I was saying to him. You know shortly after the incident. He was basically just.

All the white supremacist and he went out hunting- and you know, big news outlets with familiar faces were gone. This guy gets a gun, goes out, hunting protesters alike, they said some things that were pretty amatory and tat makes you think about the Nicholas Sandman case. The guy was standing on the courthouse steps went out in the indian guy. You know that the video footage they didn't really drill down on the video footage. They saw what actually happened in both cases because they had access to the footage they just start up got over their skis and we're right to this mark went right to the white supremacy in the end, the you know Hitler. You thing and so I said is SAM. Cashing checks. Now, right, Nixon minutes he's getting paid by these organizations who basically did that to him I said any room for that with this Written house case

he said not really, though convicted for bring in a gun at least, and I can convicted for murder but thou convict and pram again and then, once you get the gun convection, then you can't really do that civil stuff sound about right About right in the question, is this judge right? That is so It's rare that judges yell in open court, particularly the germs- and this judges is kind of he's, he's the man the Tories judge in America right now, because of how he's handle all sorts she's an look there is. There is a right against self incrimination. You have an obligation, in some This is not to speak out if you ve been charged and so to say. Well, why didn't you speak here and why didn't you speak there? That, certainly is is something every prosecutor should know the way the judge handled it in he's gonna do next. I haven't checked, you know the news lately existence yesterday, but they are.

Or a mistrial with prejudice meeting will let him out, that's it and happens. I think he is. You know the next, the neck star social media voice, particularly the way they know that why, grouse, Al Qaeda! Wouldn't you know the judge is gonna, get some masked inside gigs format to but its it. You know I I love. as in the board room. I grew up. You know, like I dont know. If it hadn't been for watching Cochrane it, and appear on those guys in the OJ trial, and I d gone towards litigation nourishes. There's something about it by we are seeing in the in the pop culture movement. You know that the tick tock star movement. you, no more lawyers can showing their asses just to try to get the yellow a bit more Fang they die Have you been yell that by judge that way, you know you see judges who

federal judges that run its shock, US federal judges, federal strict judges, not the magistrate level, but the district LE judges are appointed by the president. confirmed by Congress, and so they feel like they can use that. You know iron fist, state stage Just depends on their elected or not today, they tend to do just try to go on we get along. You get the votes, but judge, man better he's he was out there. Yeah. He also did kind of the guy yell. Were he oh yeah. He agitated himself on that kind of lost this place in only one has been yell that by an old person realises at some where was I why there are pm's gets spun up so high, they lose their revenues. The threat of this earth ride right and then once old people gets Bonnet

if you say that them whatever comes out of your mouth nexus, gonna get yell that dear. So, if you go, can I get a simple water with their eyes? They trip up in your like. Do the one with the workers are young, harsh and ring right there, going down the I've I've felt during catch onto that stuff. You know jurors, just wanna get done with jury duty and if they see lawyers act, the solar or being crazier didn't get him about the judge too much. They do take it out on your claw, and so you know, there's rules of professional conduct that every state some lawyers get him. Some lays down at. Oh, my God, I gotta ask have you seen Tiger Jean yet now not seen one frame of Tiger king doctor and I walked out their drew- who you know Well- have obsessed with Tiger King and I feel ashamed speaking Joe exacts lawyer this way, but I have this

About but ever everyone else's into. I would like to find something else to begin to weed out curious way of one else's into it. I am when I was like when I was in high school. Every one was listening. The pink Floyd led Zepplin in, however, and I would listen at Graham Parker John High, just it listen, there's something different than what everyone it's not good for dating doesn't generally not a good life supplier but for some reason, the more something gets into the site, guys the less in did I mean yes and a guy. I do I love it. I am oh blood. I have a fiduciary duty to watch it just so I could have a conversation in no microphone about its I'm kind of dropping that well, I know in every second and I have acquired a guy, had no I just saw the jail Mikhail Interview, because you did that rather than you do

about how you know you afraid of of of that's how did you use the piercing, the significant piercing aid, the and so you know, tat your king too, I'm in it doesn't have nearly as many piercing saying. Maybe you skip to look at it. It was funny the written ass trial, the guy who was shot in the upper arm who had the pistol who kind of screwed the fruitful. Prosecution when he just went yes point my gun at a shot me back guys. was gauge hours, AMOS Gauge any had gauges, got your dad. I ran wonder in management ones, honest tatters, mom before we move to form of red nose in this, not ass, John. Why would you think of the kinds of performance in the box so you know I can't decide. I tell people not

look. I'm not democratic reasonable, I can't decide how I feel on that case overall unites. I I could go both sides and argue. Besides analogous here, the guy took up took her You know took a guy to unexpected fight and I dont think what he did was right. I in fact I think he deserves jail time, but he looked The problem is we stay in our own bubble right, and so, if we, if we do what our parents say and we we all stay in our one bubble. We believe that bullshit, sometimes and and- he clearly believed that was right. That was, you know when you crying. some people like under the guy, I feel bad for the cause. We make mistakes, but not where they are fifteen June. The

I was thinking about it. I didn't get a chance to bring this up to mark, but I do have a kind of unintended consequences thought bigger societal notion? cheers there's a famous story out here in Pasadena, then there is a second story that happened: the two stories. One is somebody their laptops, stolen Pasadena. They call the cops scars, cops, aren't going check shit. So he says the guy had a gun, so they can get there to come down and then the cops come down. The guy doesn't have a gun that confront him in the alley turns around. Of course, cops. You don't kill That's an unintended consequences have started the cops not doing their jobs. There's another store with a guy got its Mustang stolen said he had a special needs kid in the back seat. I would have left it it just my kid, but he the brilliantly one special needs and, of course they rolled on it because he wanted his car back. Any wasn't gonna get a car back, it strikes,

me if people Captious stand back and go. Listen, we're gonna! Let an angry mob! Let connection burn them. There's gonna, be a small group of Americans or fuck that someone Alcohol is a car dealership there and they're gonna get on the roof like the Koreans did with the guns out here during the Ronnie came riots and we're going to fuck that you're, not gonna police. I'm gonna police and connecting and I'll show you got seventeen year olds with nay our fifteen, showing up and guys with pistols. Another guy had a pistol here they are fifteen. Like you tell her you don't get involved. Let let the fuckin place burner the fucking ground society was nobody's, gonna shoot. Somebody owns that use car lot, they're going to shop with a gun. of gonna happen. I'm not I'm actually surprise. It doesn't happen more really, if you think about it

well and with what we have written house on one side in a motto barbaric going on at the same time. You know we're wherein it we're in a spot where we're civil in this country on earth are gonna, be effected generally and specifically by a couple of couple, a different juries: I've gotta go: I've got a law office, probably formal from where they are conducting me Ahmad our very case law, which he did a jog without a jogger, that's a jog, Addis systematically went on in so it's unites. They ve gotta, get it right. I mean unintended consequences. We have a case that we're trying next year where a guy was just in his garage listing the loud music police, up on allowed music complaint, the opens a grudge door slammed the grudge nor police fire four times through the gradual killing in. Anna

they. May I please we. Why me why races are exactly what you expect quite officer black gentlemen, shy to make matters worse. In that case we tried it in the end station where it happened, Thirty one live witnesses six day, Jure federal civil rights, jury, trial. Jury came back forward. Oliver dollar, reach daughter and die a funeral expenses lie. Malta, where was that of Lorna Water? It has, however, that didn't get more national news got a little bit right after and we got a reversed by the appellate court, we actually went up to the Supreme Court on it. Appealed they build. Our appeal the Supreme Court. We want that and so were retrying it, but it's small town justice in

people don't want to. I don't wanna hold their police accountable, but even even perhaps you know any good cops like I. I've turned it bad lights if good cup, when turning in bad cops, we get problem in any profession. It's you know, we just we ve got a police around somewhere. yeah. Now I've lamented with Mark Garriga us about their the California bar, really not Jack Squat, the police any other guys a guy lived down the hill. For me start yeah yeah during a rainstorm me another. He had a mud hill, torrential downpour and adjust mud. One is pool and hits send me letters like hey Gimme, ten thousand,

Then we'll call it good, and I know where you I moved after that he's like I know where you live this future, be a shame if it got out and threats and I'm an attorney. I know what I'm doing it. I've like full report, further to the bar and then dear. She had about his disguise, resell, There is not a lot of self policing in policing, probably not an airplane piloting either, unlike people are really good. It doctor Turning there's a code, I guess said my, and yet my feelings are after seven, seven Gara goes name drops We do have a title in question ideology. Thank you. I'm I'm just really curious about. It looks like you're of affiliated with the children of Don Loris right, and also Joe exotic

so interesting so die so out of, doesn't it or jargon round, but Carol, Basque and husband disappeared, let's say and a lot of shrouded in mystery as to what happened to him. There are theories that careless, There are three areas that it became: a TIGERS, lunch you know, there's all these theories, and so it's it's. Talk a little bit about being affiliated with him his family, as well as Joe. It was super interesting. The transition in the short still moderately funny version of it is fired in the middle. The story is there: I represented the family, gay on dines, granddaughters, fiance, say great guiding dusting called I do wrongful death said have been around for their case and, unlike good morning. I'm happy to talk about that twenty three years ago, that seems a bit out of the statue limitations. Oh Don was, I watched aggregating, and so we met with them

Carol, went on dancing with the stars, they did a little Pierre say that was made from jobs I had. I know back and she was so that the USA and that I look like I held hostage because we were all do it, for you know instagram size as well, and so in front of me the first on my madame because they fear say but we still represent an Mcqueen whose dawns assist right in her information case against Joe the family really didn't have a defamation case. They want to pursue some other issues. I don't spoil it for them, but they wanted to pursue some other issues day essentially said, I'm good John. I kept an Joe found out a few months later Emailing me, that's really at the prison you know, might be repaid your presence emo he kept email until I went to Fort worth. Walked into the room for Molly. You know still the tattooed eyeliner,

the guy that I saw in Tiger King and I said you know at first. I didn't really believe that he was set up and after a few months I started to believe it, a few more months. Everybody started coming forward and you know the rest will, since I can't to as much did show finally motions and trying to get him out legitimately, but it's been five new AIDS, a project like that you know, is exposure for a lawyer, but it's it's. Crazy in, and I haven't idea what some of the points in the final episode and it's If we find something unites. Interests there. CIAO Tiger. King too, available is available. Wednesday Netflix, which I'm guessing you're, coming up this Wednesday website, Florida, jim- this dot com. As my gay porn,

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