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or of our democracy in its available now and Amazon, anywhere, you buy finer box and I should say the podcast as well forward with Andrew Yang, so of o, always followed. You always listen to you now we're talking about third parties, I wanna get me some of those nuts and bolts as well. What made you think about starting a third party and what makes you think it's possible now in the current climate wrote this book after I came off the presidential trail and twenty twenty and I tried to figure out why I felt why so many of us feel so stuck why politics seem so broken in dysfunctional big inside I had Adam was that it's not working because it's not designed a work is not supposed to work. It turns out duopoly is setting us up its setting. Us a fail. It setting us up to heed our fellow Americans. We are

trending towards political violence and civil war to point no, and so based without realization. I thought ok. What would act? free us from this and only thing I found that would free us would be to change the incentives of our given our government leaders and officials in that choirs populists movement to break up the. wobbly, introduce new political points of view and the path Yet there is a third party which I call the forward party, not left or right, but forward figured I'd, be pretty catchy in an easy. The two men remember, but it was because I dug into why things are working right now, and this was the only solution. Yeah I mean I love competition in general. Like me, you know if there are only two makes of cars or to taco. Restaurants are to have any thing. How good with the product

and then also, if you just kind of, took it well, let's just say: there's only Mcdonald's and only burger king. and there no other opportunity our choices for hamburger and then Mcdonnel and burger king spent the lion's share of their time too king shit about the other versus try? they make a better burger. How would the customer benefit from that and I, I think it sounds like a weird analogy, but doesn't sound app to you. I think it's spot on Adam because check it out. I, like I'm, a child of the eighties Entire member Mcdonald's, worse burger King but imagine if there was no in an out no fun. You guys notion check what a lesser world we'd be him. That's the world politics to the ability of the Democratic Republic of Party by the way most people don't like rags

percent of Americans are looking for an alternative, but we keep being told. No, no can't happened is impossible and its nonsense. So your burger joint analogies spot on, except for the fact most of us. I think China, like Mcdonald's or burger king well I'll, go another one concerned when I was coming up there. The time when it was pretty much. You had your choice between a chevy or afford a couple of theirs big, three auto manufacturers, and by the time you got to the mid seventies, all their products. Socked pretty much just across the board, at some point. These plucky little japanese companies started coming in Nissan, then dots, Toyota, Honda stuff like that, and they really force the hand of them in cars I mean the american american uniform.

it makes a great product today, but it's not because Ford wanted to make a great Braddock. They got forced because of this crazed competition. To me a great product and for that matter, electric products there doing tongues of electric cars. Now because they don't get a lunch, eaten back to the Berger analogy by all these other company. So why I wouldn't this holds true in every facet. We I mean of society, We ve somehow carved out politics and decided by that's unnecessary. everything else benefits greatly from competition. You are spot on and the fact is we should have more competition in our politics or the big question we should be asking is why don't we cancer. Is that it, parties are playing, you lose, I lose training power, while the rest of us are really doing the losing they tell us

can't have anything more than these two parties, even though Tat was wanted. if you re wine back to the founding data of the country, are back. Fathers hated political parties, John Adams said that two parties would be an evil costs. The lad George Washington, railed against partisanship on his way out. The report can party didn't even come into existence until decades later after the civil war and the two parties active LISA, press any competition. The third biggest party in Amerika we now objectives the libertarian partly end it what's been fascinating. Adam is that the libertarians and the Forward Party are now making common cause, because we to try to make it so that there is genuine competition. Urine a foreign you're right. He asked. yeah I'm in new york- and these are one party towns- are states. You know just like the Democrats and no one can look at the situation say. The Democrats are,

of competition in these very, very blue areas, because they're not take a one party town, whoever wins a primary when's the whole thing and anyone whose an independent Republican is essential Lee an afterthought that's all right. now I agree, whatever. Whatever business? Is competition forces you to not only kind of be smart decision making, but it also summons things in you that you didn't know, maybe even had the ability to do. I mean it's. Why we love sports were so inherently attracted the sports on some sort of visceral level like. Why is it purely think about it. She was why do we love sport? So much? And it's like it because it brings this out in in the athletes so you are, or were democratic, and ran for president and your ideas almost were to lie

Jack all or made too much chance. You didn't talk a lot of even talk down to people enough. You kind of talk too much about math and other things that made sense and maybe not sexy, for a dynamic, and then I saw you going on shows going on CNN talking about political topics and I thought to myself. This doesn't seem as much, Andrew, as it does sort of talking because you you, you know, there's aside your on and aside you're, not on, and it's kind of hard to never dad or negotiate that- and I know this sounds the sound, pejorative, but I would hear you say things on tv that didn't really sound like The? U I was familiar with before, and I while he probably wants to stay on CNN and but

when you start of the third party I was like ok now, that makes more sense, doesn't make sense it does Adam and I can share with you the dynamics so CNN, me too, come on in twenty twenty after I drop out of the race. I was at a point then, where I said I read for president to try and get trump out. I didn't Tromp was a good president was hoping that you wouldn't be president for a second term. and so when I was on CNN, I did paradigm. Judge because it was genuine like I wasn't fabricating like I was. I was calculating What can I say: that's gonna help get tromp out, so that deserves be very genuine motivation, the! entire time, I did have misgivings about the overall direction of the country. Are you know, I think that we

to change, and then, when I dug into why I felt we needed this change. That's when I realized that it's the dew openly that the happily is turning us against each other? It's not solving any real problems. My approach, things when you describe as backdoor math or what not doesn't it they fit in public Please look at with with a party that comfortably There are a lot of Americans who want a break from the heat, and the polarisation that don't think that other Americans are enemies. the sense censor. The media is maybe leading us in turning us against each other in various ways to make more money, and so so that that's what drove me tat? The decision to start the Ford Party without can we my next question my question was gonna, be the media and social media by the way

Think about there, ain't nothin, social, about social media so used to be like formally in part. He certainly he's a social parsonage, gregarious he's outgoing social there's. No, social, about social media, but kind strikes me that Both parties may not have Americans best interests at heart first their own eye. like the media, still in that as well and I wonder if the media is going, it began kind of clear to me that the media was much more involved with this system than just sort of hanging back and reporting the news they seem to be very active in the system. The media are in tell me: how have the media been in response Still a third party

you are completely correct- that the media is hand in hand with our political system. There are a lot of relationships there. about it in my book where during the essential primary and MSNBC producer said that there were certain candidates? There were told not to interview. I was one of them did so if you imagine that there are direct is coming from various parts of the political system to the media establishment? You are right. That is happening. I think a lot american sense that end cause that there there is this hand involve relationship where, all parties concerned. A lot of mainstream press has not like to talk about it. They realise that most Americans don't have a deep affection for either the two parties, but there interests as a media organisation are tied up in getting people

animated about the politics of today and generally blaming the other side I will say that the way I came up as a presidential candidate is the same way the Ford parties coming up, which is due podcast. It's one reason why you do as so important independent media voices, like yourself, just call it like you see it and people agree or disagree in that they decide if they like her trust, you and you make your own decisions in a way that independent of these media organisations that genuinely are now in some ways appendages of the political system, while no kind of strikes me that part of the problem with the current Two party system is, party has this history and baggage? If you will you now and Oh so often we're trying to about a problem or subject, and then there

always going back into the baggage like a kind of a bad relationship? Yet now it's like how could you have a relationship with a woman and vice versa, it's easy out on the first day, but if there's a whole history of you, cheating and being a dick, The gambling are you banged or sister four years ago, at a wedding or such like that. How can you move forward. With this relationship, because people keep Goin out, will you guys you a party of slavery or either party of segregation, you're the one who didn't care about the rivers and pollution- and you know when you- you won a woman's right to choose and there's all this stuff and all stuff, and we never stop. If you don't believe me about looking for the past were tearing down average statue that one up in the last twenty minutes like we do nothing, it's one big long. Sixteen nineteen project or whatever its content, staring in the rear view, how,

hand this relationship using them, for that, a man and a woman try go out offers eight. How could you have a relationship with this person and work with this person rage children? The further? If all you do, is constantly reading the person's diary and see other people they had sex with. Before you and all the time SK rations and everything else, the third poverty is kind of a age free Party a year. to show up it's the first date for I don't know much about history, its true high, so But the experiences I had item is like I showed up in the MID West was, I came running for president and then say said what party and I said, Democrat and it be like. I d sprouted horns. turn green certain environments Whereas now, if I were to say hey, you know, I'm bored party or for it is people would have no reaction at all right because, like you said, your baggage rate well you're essentially valid

Parties are convicts with long rap sheets in autumn in and and examples of doing good things, but they are not interested in that others pull out the rap. She read the rap she'd foxhole red one rap. She CNN I'll, read another rap sheet and that's that's of where whereat you know you couldn't be called anything, and if you were an I want to know some of the planks of the plan. But I've talked a doctor about this. He just kind of wanted. He would sort. wishing out loud for the last few years that we just had sort of eight logic party main like where you go yuck, I'm not more coal, I'm not against call I'm not for wind power against wind power, I'm just gonna crunch numbers and we're going to move forward based on what makes the most sense- and I don't have any history see. You can't tell me that I'm in bed with the coal industry or I'm taken a bunch of money from so

conversely, that that seems incredibly attractive this American and I'm guessing most Americans these days- is that so. That is the way forward party. Yes, that's right. we are going to be party of facts and reason and solutions, and not judging people. By the way I mean who the hell am I to judge about what you do about the bag is at each party. Has the game is this where what they do is they'll. Take the most extreme controversial figure from the a party and in this hold them up as the poster child both sides do this every day? The big look at this loony tunes Democrat and what they're saying about you know whatever it is like what to teach our kids in schools and then the other side will be like look at this loony tunes public in and what they at about we're gonna, raised lasers or whatever Riah whatever it is, and then they need is continuously just in flame

polarize and agitate Look at your really where we are at a point now or forty, two percent of the Democrats, Republicans view, the other side is evil and we can sense. It is it's one reason why we feel a troubled why we need a different approach. That is logical. act based on standing in a part of my upbringing is that if someone disagrees only about something, it doesn't mean that their worth any less than I am does mean you know I mean, I think one thing you think another, like that's cool and that's what most Americans want, You ran are one of the one of the planks in your old place. Form as universal income where you out with and how's that pertain to the forward party, I am still oh, very much in favour of versions of cash relief. At this point, two thirds of Americans are for some version of universal basic income. I'll tell you that just implementation. Rayner Adam is this child tax credit that is lifted

Millions of children poverty, like it's going to school supplies and food and stuff like that that there is a way that we can improve people's lives and involves trusting them? I'm not for imagining that my gun who bureaucracy is more effective than just putting resources into people's hands, because most people know what they need? What about education, school choice, vouchers thing that nature. One of the reasons I think the Democrats are taken. A beating around the country is that parents at I'm, apparent, got kids and public school also in especially school for artistic kids and the teachers unions are a huge part of democratic party and a lot of parents are very frustrated with what's been going on in schools. I think there should be more competition. I think that turn risks, our good thing allow the time their rising, be as a public schools have now worked. I think should be able to do what they think is right. Kids die

I agree, I always err on the side of competition, and I look competition. This way, which is its own. some possible to just say whether it's a school system or a podcast, good luck. we're gonna, give you all the money you'd come out, what the price you want to come out with and don't worry they'll, never be any competition, so I'd pay. they do. They show twice a year and I'd be drunk if that was Imagine if there are only two pod casts, but each of the pod castors was getting. ten billion dollars. A year on shittiest pod gas on the planet or their debt, The summary of the political parties are now right. You know my thing with competition is Oh, I'm a unified, and we have that thing during

over all the teachers unions fired up- and you know they're in bed with Gavin knew some and the Democratic Party out here in everything- and my thing is like more charter schools, more vouchers, more more choice or competition, because I believe that if they had some competition than Ella Unified would up their game is well, it does force it's not. oh we're just getting beat by the competition. No you use actually up your game when the competitor shows up on the block I, whether to school or restaurant and work, the whole party already or political party. Is well, Where are you at I'm looking down here and I'm looking at the thought? m based nuclear power from pronouncing that right. Can we tell you out powered lotta discussion about power? What do. How do we get from boss?

feels the clean energy and renewable energy and I am all for the switch except for you can't just cancel the. Blind and then replace it with not thing. We have to have something to me Place whatever power the pipeline? producing I mean like I'm out here in southern Fournier gases over five bucks, a gallon. It and really fact me, because I'm rich but kicks the shit out of like the gardeners and the construction workers and the guys who drive the big trucks with equipment and have to you know. I used to be a carpenter. You got it a truck you're gonna, carry around your tools and equipment? You don't get good gas mile You can't afford an electric car. That's not really many options for gardeners, drive and electric truck and you're going into Beverly Hills or the Palisades chances? Are you live in Sun Valley or Van highs do a lot of driving with a truck the kids.

Nine miles to the cow, unfilled filled with all the equipment and the gases. can the shit out of these people. One reason why I think it's gonna be a very tough climate for whoever is in power, which re knows that the damsel these nationally, because inflation is really hurting. People Gas prices Lothar, thing. Some food items with you on trying to transition to bear, forms of energy, but you can ignore the realities and the needs of today is one reason why I was pro. Clear energy which I would suggest is very something that people are treating ideologically in a way that they shouldn't its a clean energy source relative to a lot of what what elsewhere were using, It's very robust if you are going to try and move on, you would be for some version of nuclear and the technologies come a long way. The problem is that politically, some people just

like the sound of it. Really they just think on nuclear and they think Chernobyl or or these other things, but I pro the next generation of nuclear technologies and, if you're going to get serious about China provided the energy was that we need to end and clean up our are sources. I think nuclear should be a big part of it. I like in it there's a version on the right in the version on the left of the nuclear laughed version. Is you who never stop. Speaking about the environment, Well, there is a reliable and safe form of energy that does not harm the environment at all or nearly as much as coal fracturing and every fossil fuel and your dad, set against it. To run into this as it pertains to the right. When I used to do love line with doktor, drew away back in the day

There was something when the morning after pill first came out, it's gotta be, many five years ago now, all the folks there were anti abortion and anti everything the right came out against the morning after pill and me things like hey you, people abortion, then here a pale you can take. That's not abortion pale it just it? It prevents you the egg from implanting I won't get to technical, but you of all people should be chairing this on, but the you of all people are against it and I feel the same way about nuclear with the laughed That sort of green and that sort of thing Hungary is you of all. People should be for this technology and you're the loudest against it, which It's me wonder just like I did with the morning after pill. Is this really your wish ores Something else going on that. I unaware of

It reminds me a little bit Adam when I was on the presidential debate stage and I said: look, we should start moving people the higher ground and people on the left beat me up about it for days afterwards. May I go though you know Yang is somehow like I don't know like a defeat. Store like climate change. Apologies, as I know, I just think we should move people to crop up, because there are some of these communities- are gonna, be really hammered. And I didn't see that as an ideological, say, Madasimas practical soda reminds me of its look that you're a real life like it. Let's go with a programme and now, arguments about the world as we wish it were, but the world, as it is Also, it does strike me that talking bout race, HANS and lay never help anybody any face ever or maybe fifty sixty years ago, but like that it's two thousand. in twenty one and all

do is talk about race seems first off. you could attack me on the shoulder. Ninety ninety seven and went down we're gonna move ahead. Twenty Five years in the future and we're just gonna be arguing over race. I'd be like that's insane who I can assure you that I found it in saying that we be I've been. We all wherein mylar jumpsuits and drive and hovercraft like now. We're gonna be arguing about race, drive and trucks crazy. Where were you? What? Where do you think this comes from. I think this comes from media incentives, Adam and social media, where, if you haven't if all that talks about various racial narratives, then it just gets better play better traffic. There are any number of journalists who are somewhat race obsessed than they are trying to push the realize narratives onto us, it's contributing to the a vision, and

agitation. really? Is it over gin, people up The pissed off of you talk about raised but I agree with you as a major problem. It's one of the reasons why I think we do need both more. Independent voices who aren't subject to this kind of narrative, an independent political movement that also just wants to solve problems. Realize what most of us want, which is to say, look world? Two things yeah. You know like I'm asian, but I'm a lot of other things and Let's come together, we're still one country were still one people less. What most Americans want believe Vanessa Way, most Americans? Actually I data day. You know you People are different backgrounds, you're perfectly happy to see them on paper. It is just what you go under. These media rabbit holes. Are social media rather holds you think everyone's fucking obsessed with race every moment of their lives. Most people are, does not like that. I agree, people look at me people as individuals and it's really

possible not to, and that's kind of our wired and ate. It does it seems really destructive to me at also seems totally irresponsible and very cruel to the people who are your telling have a target on their back. If it's not, especially kids- oh my god, theirs another sort of way version of it, which is well. It's curled tell that ten year old that he has racism even if it's on but the ham eases the races areas, privilege or whenever this does, that version of it. I don't really care that much about it, but the part where your truck, to convince large Agnes of our society that they're not wanted in this society and that their going to be that achieve anything in this society because of how they look, that is,

dangerous message you could ever perpetrate on those people and it will become a self fulfilling prophecy if you start telling them you're not coming achieve anything because of the way society stacked against you. It shall it come to wish it, there's no there's, no doubt about it. So sock about other facets of the forward party. where are you guys out with taxes, for instance,. My basic thesis on the presidential was that technology is gonna, get more and more powerful and we need a way to benefit from a I and other technologies where government revenue is concerned. The example I use Adam, which most people understand very easily, is that there. Two million Americans are working call centres, rhino picking up the phone Google now has a high. I can do that job. How long until the IRA places those two million workers or a significant proportion of them

and then how much do we get in tax revenue right now? Most of those causing a workers do pay taxes and Google pays next to nothing because they move the revenue through the Bahamas or Ireland or wherever the heck, because I says the move for global multinationals. So my The thing on taxes. We need to go where the value is. We have to get it from Google and Amazon, and a big tech companies big picture to be trying to move away from labour based taxes because generally in a system, you tax, the things you wanted discouraged and the last thing we want to do is discouraged labour. We should be very specific. I was reversed eyes: goods like everything we do to get people to their work, where we should be doing so now. That gives you a little bit of a sense of where I am. There are going to be hundreds of billions of dollars, a value that get captured by big tech companies and rain our inaccuracy a whole lot of it when Europe forming a party do you sit down and go o k

gay marriage where we at legalization decriminalization drugs, where we at tat is where we at school. choice or not abortion pro choice not like do physically just go here. Our doctrine or how to set process work. It's fascinating Adam? What happens with third party movements like the Forward Party, as we try not to take stances on a whole lot of issues that dividing and people, but also are secondary or even irrelevant relative to the challenges we face. Structural, like right now with this duopoly. It's gonna turn us against each others continue to profit from me from us in If I disagree with you on some other issues, we can agree on that. If you look at them Lord Party, another third party movements, try to have a set of principles that we have principles that I think most Americans would agree with around

grace and tolerance, which is just appreciate each other as human beings, and not trying to judge people of different political beliefs fact he's governance, which goes to your logic for Doktor Jews logic criteria which, as we should be governing based upon that that we can agree on and see if you can actually improve people's lives, but we have not taken a stance on a lot of the things you just named because to us, no like you and I can agree disagree on some of them if we can agree on the basic need for a political system that involves more than just these two parties, sometimes you'll hear people like Bill MAR speak out against a third party because he believes all it does is sort of rob votes from the Democratic Party and door.

the concern is on a lot of this is oh you're, just gonna take some votes away from this party that I want to win now. I guess Third parties additionally scrape off you boats away from democrats- but I don't know what the nation is, and then Who would you imagine the four party would get some it's from or do you look at it that way and just go, there's probably bunch of people that aren't voting that are disgusted with both part that would come out for the forward party you things number one independence right now, our number Democrats, our Republican significantly in something like forty five percent independent twenty percent democratic, twenty four percent rule. again or something along those lines. So their lot of Americans that actually have this other point of view. Sixty two percent want an I'll

to the duopoly to bills. Point p just keep using the spoiler effect. Does like a club saying our I screwed up for someone? The fact is that the for third parties higher among independence and republicans- and it is among democrats- you dont- know who's gonna end of voting for a treaty a third party, the biggest in eight who was a third party candidate Ross per hour and ninety two, who you remember actually led to the democratic winning. I think actively. Clinton. Might not of one against, Bush Senior if Ross Programme gotten nineteen point three percent of the vote, but biggest thing Adam. Is that it's a fiction because You changed your voting system too

something like rang choice boating where you can rank a few candidates that you like, then you get rid of the spoiler fact entirely. This entire binary do awfully. Oh, you can't have any other party, because you'll make critical the bad guys win is too bullshit is just thing that the two parties used trying to scare you interval for one or the other. But if you have Any modern voting system, like rang choice, moaning that there's no spoiler fact you can vote for whoever you want by the way is exactly what most Americans want right like don't. We wanted to build a vote for whom everyone, and maybe even elevate pendant or a libertarian or someone who doesn't have a deer our next to their name, so that the frustration and I tried to say the same thing a bill. I was like bill come on man, you like falling into their trap, where you have this archaic voting system. You can move on from it and there's no more spoiler effect, and then you don't have to worry about. Someone could include messing up for someone else. What do you think about the fee

The ability of a third party abroad, Ross Paragraph nineteen detail. He is a very wealthy. I think oil man who just was able to use his own war chest step fund run at the If it wasn't a predict a charismatic a high, but he is all pre social media, no such thing as being, if you want to get your message out, you'd have to go to. I guess he media. You know. We spoke beforehand about all the pod cas and all the different companies that are popping up now or sub stack of things like that or different voices. Alternative opinions are being heard. Do you feel like This is much more do a ball now all of our goal. I can give an example which is,

think it's easier we're talking about their Elon Musk earlier and with the advent of the computer. It's much easier to build your own car now than it was when the big three had their short a monopoly in AEGIS. Would Britain physically impossible to do at people? Try, but now really never really worked out? Do you feel like with the social media and these all these alternative. All the alternative, media and stuff like that. Now that this is a doable thing, because of this versus the sort of appeal climb that per hour had back in the day you're talking mainly about the national rates in the presidential dynamic- and it is interesting because of the Ford Party wants to make an impact on local races and state rates, the city races congressional races, even but does aiming- is that I think that there is actually the biggest desire for an alternative at the national level. If we,

having a re match between Joe Biden, Donald Trump and twenty twenty four, which I believe we are heading towards by the way, rarely based upon the things that are happening in both parties, and I can go into that if you'd like yeah, but if you have If you had those two guises, your candidates and then you get it double third party candidate, let's call a marked Cuban or me or someone else. I think you start out with ten fifteen percent. Easy because only people be like all my god willing to do this again and again, and then you can go up from their again. Rogue nineteen point three percent back in ninety two. He did have his own bank role but If you had some one who could get oxygen or had their own resources are cup nomination. Thank you start out at that level, I'm being conservative. I think that person you get fifteen twenty twenty five percent maybe after thirty five forty percent, because the effect and for Democrats,

Republicans is really low. Genuinely is just a scared. The shit out of you and say: hey, look at the other guy, his brow, the it is really the main tool. I've made this joke before as a pertain Gavin Newsome. But if you had Joe Biden up against Donald Trump, a plan stick out that people put on the roof to scare away seagulls would get forty. two percent of the vote, Eve literally. If it was those too even if it was Donald Trump and Kemal Harris or something. If, if it were the fats, the kind of the scenario and then you had a given our magic Johnson or Andrew Yang, like in the other or Oprah, or whoever over there or or the rock. I mean yeah yeah. I mean this good propelled, this third party, you could you

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with Andrew Yang as well, so our thoughts on Trump and then thoughts on by Nan Trump, all I'd, so Donald Trump still has a duty. Proven and loyalty of sixty five to seventy five percent of republican primary voters And he's raised well over a hundred million dollars he's been telling people on his orbit that he's going to run again His opposition is likely to be Christy, my palm peo, my pants Maybe Larry Hook in the biggest republic in contenders are saying that they will not run against Trump Nicky. Hayley said publicly won't run against Trump brandy. anticipation. Privately won't run against Trump and if you're. Nicky or run you just think yourselves, otters, wait out a cycle is going against. Trump is probably

a suicide mission. Honestly in the report, we annual dissenters is fairly young. These folks, your Manchester fairly young wait waited at once. I got my eyes around, so I'm here going to have against a fairly weak field, and I think trump roles. So that's the republican field. In a nutshell, on the other side, Joe Biden has been too people he's going to run again and one of the issues over there is that they don't have an heir apparent outside of Tumblr Harris who pulls viper. worse than Joe Jos, at forty. Three percent, something recently just said Kamel I'd like way: lower the man in terms of approval rating, and then after that, where do you Oh, if you're the democratic field, you have to go to a competitive primary makes, you seem fractures and this unified, while trumps coming up the other side, so

probably wind up with Joe again, even though they had one eighty two here, they had show as low as thirty eight, I think as low as thirty eight and come on could have been as low is, is twenty eight recently? So She, I think our own parties kind of turn it on her I mean I she doesn't seem viable at all. We both IRA, P Buddha judge in there the problem? Again, though, animals that if you, if you were to try and make it someone like PETE, you have to go through a primary, One of the reasons why PETE ended up poorly in primary law. Time when I was running. was that he didn't care categories of color. So assumes you got to know that in South Carolina became very, very tough going for him, but you you just appoint someone. You know annoyed someone, you end up having to go through a primary process, and I just don't that's what democratic gonna wanna do in in the face

tromp, so I think you wind up with Joe again. Well I don't I've been saying this out loud for awhile, Joe during the last election because of Red and because of the sort of the EP, who basically just when Joe we're not ask you any questions. Just hang tat heat. Let us go after tromp and will will push you into the White House, which seems to have happened. and then Jos, started, in painting, essentially after he was the president, you know like giving Page is indeed our roughly fielding questions, albeit from select, groups of the media that were pray approved and things like that Ike but it seems like from a cabinet.

if standpoint is definitely lost. This fastball I dont know how he's gonna be three years or Samantha years now, couple years from now get up on it stage, you know no more sort of teleprompter covert, related exile, like you're gonna, have to hit the trail and you're gonna do two questions and you're gonna have to do it out. I just can't Imagine him being up to that. X amount of years. From now. well as the incumbent president. He might just be campaigning from the White House in ourselves some advantages that they're your hitting on the concern that a lot of people have which is going to have the energy and the stamina after two and a half more years of being president there People at around him. Now that our saying that you know that wear and tear and the ages evident. And so that that that's it concern, I mean hobby,

eighty one eighty two around what we're talking about mean trumps no spring Chicken Toby, seventy seven, but he does have a different type, energy to him, His age doesn't seem as much of an issue. Yeah he's got that big, Dick Energy, that sitting, crazy old man, energy. For now I will answer the last few days that has yet, but I do joke Adam outside combined age of these two cannonades, a hundred fifty eight Pino in the economic cycle- and these are your two leading contenders, most likely nominees, I like, and maybe just cause I've had a beer with them. go hairs politician when a guy can have a beer with, but you never have a beer with them, but I did have a beer, an event of you dead Dan Crenshaw a few times and, unlike that's more than a guy I'd like to see in in nation, a power, this made more sense there,

few guys that are out there on on both sides right kind, a guy like that guy. I like that guy's sad will never see em up one day, I'm gonna throw out their imagine if there is a third party primary for twenty four and it had people of different points, the view- and I think that would be a very, very powerful positive think the american people and show showing that we don't have to fucking just be beholden to what to do. crimson Republican say we need to swallow right if you had like a third party primary anyone from any political alignment, kinda summit, case the american people come on or podcast. I you know like that would be fun, positive, fascinating, real. Like real Lord, the Duma? Merci, inaction! That's something that I would very much like to be a part of, Next cycle deal his paid any body from either side of the current parties. You no kind of get fed up

the system and jump in shape and thinking about the third party I get it input. every day or incoming messages from people who are somewhere between intrigue and pumped up Suppose, because I love you would get sick and tired of a man that you're here is the fundamental problem and so you have these two points: the parties, but you also have the align media apparatus of each than the capital incentives for each. So as soon as you leave the two parties you're in the wilderness and then all of a sudden, the the media and the money aren't there for you anymore. So we have in front of us, is a great american project is to build up the vote the media and the money so that I can go into the wilderness and there is a beautiful community in the wilderness. Do not you know, tree house or a mean to Urien you're like You know swiss family Robinsons Dial, like you know, like Abiola. They look gang elevators? Now being so? That's it

A project of the forward Party is to make it sort of someone decides to jumped ship. They have some place to go to that that where building re now do and are you and will you be welcome to like go back on CNN and talk about this. I've been on CNN up a few times in other people's CNN. They no me and respect me, I believe, and that's true journalists endeavour. I can go on your computer tomorrow. You know it's like different journalists, and this is something I didn't know, but you might have known- and I didn't know, but I fear that later is a lot of his just whether the journalists you know it's really like a very very if a dynamic leg of journalists want to shut you out, though, such you out If journalists liking respect you and they they think haven't you on is like a positive thing for their owners, Have you on I've been stopped heard by just how both

snow, an ideological! These decisions? Are it's not a great city of, but I have relationships and enough of an eye, In writing. People see me as like a fine guess, I'll. Tell you something funny. I was with SAM Harris. Now, I'm not that long ago. Do no sound lab now I dont know personally, but I know its work. So so SAM jokingly called me rebel corporate It is like music, Stella be acceptable, though you know like people, you can like I've. U odd, but like you're, either the rebel from within that world, which I kind of laughed and taken. You know well it is. It is interesting there there, journalists that, yes, they vary you personally and so you can go from one side to the other side now, but then journalists. I think this is kind of problem if they don't feel like you're gonna echo, whatever their echoing or whatever their discussing or whatever their platform hist.

Can stand on, then you're no longer welcome, because you're, gonna, say something that contrary to what they're saying and that's kind of the end of journalism for those who think that way and there's a fair amount of that goal. going around and it's also kind of funny it's making for a funny bedfellows, because in ideal podcast with with Mark us every week and he's a good friend. And a neighbour, and he was fix your on CNN, but at some point he started saying things that didn't fit in with CNN and but he's democrat and he's very liberal guy and now u turn on Fox and he's on Fox and it's it's it's theirs this has happened quite a bit. More people are like they may be liberal, they may be democratic, they may be republican and conservative. But somehow they stop popping up on their own sides network. Just

because they're not really care, the tune for what is that network is humming and its. it's kind of sad that that's where rat like marked areas is a guy tons of opinions, Annie would be welcome anywhere, and we should all listen and then agree or disagree, think that's one reason why I am so eager to try and build up independent media because it what you're describing Adam It is true that there are these dynamics at play in decisions being made about who to bring on the rest of it and its messed up. It is breaking us, it's pulse. Destroying our faith really in some objective version of the truth or journalism. I'd love to be a part of helping the fix that a tip. This is what it what we need to build up this independent political movement and then an associated media, constellation,

yeah, I agree, and I think you know is much is this? Is gonna be difficult for the folks? Look at our democratic that you know old guard whose used to having at their way got a really screwed up the media to and It's really gonna force the media to get back to do with their job verse, verses Gulf go from Germany go darted a journalist, eternal? cheerleader and now to go back to journalism, yeah that what's happening right now. Is that the traffic in such an US versus them black purses, white, dynamic and then a lot of stuff is not that easy shades of gray and the rest of it. you hopefully can push them to your point. Competition. So right now they don't really need to compete and, to that extent they compete its try in general

more to give you what you want to reinforce our current point of view if we can actually introduce successful, offering where people get a more nuanced version of the truth- and I go, we can't just give them. The same party line the time just expectantly, come back for more than that to me is where we have to go while also I mean think about the public whose died asking the information you now you know if there was this party this forward. Party then, when you said Oh here's my plan for acts, wine, z or here's. What I'd like the heirs I'd like to do? The public could go. Ok,. Well, I guess that's what they want to do verses, oh they're, just doing that because of swine Z and they knew you'd. Take look no further and covered it's like all the

Duff, I mean even the cdc I sit here and talk to Doktor drew all day is like I don't really true the CDC anymore, I'm doctor and I've I've? Never I who whatever fibre? scale. Would you have our question the cdc like so and so from the CDC says you gotta get your five year olds vaccinated are two year olds need where mask on an airplane the city she was beyond reproach went out when I was younger ten minutes ago, I would have an hour. I that's what the CD shit now like wait a minute. What are they want now and it doesn't mean the wrong just a factor stop and go wait a minute. What are they want me to do it? Now? It's it's been fractured that idea that you have to stop theirs? ox version of it, there's a CNN version. I like you, go wait a minute like you get that Take the Kyle Rittenhouse K, shit, you go CNN. What's your version of it? Ok

He was a lunatic, a white supremacist who went out hunting, peaceful, Jazz fox, what's your version, this guy's, an American? Who does to be shallow right now, I have to say up and go awry. Let me see if I can figure this one out, which is not what you want from your news by part of it of Andrew Yang, said: here's my Take on whatever I wouldn't go. Wait a minute. Let's see doing, and I think that's kind of whereat and I think it's gonna open and give a nice birth to people like yourself I hope so in book actually has about half a chapter on the failings of the CDC early on in the pandemic. So the fact that people are like wait a minute I mean grounded in some reality. They really did drop the ball in epic fashion early on so we're getting them infallible would actually not be like the consistent with the facts are

but there is such an appetite again, sixty two percent of Americans, one alternative- we just keep being Brainwashed- told that you can't have it but was razor hands, say no. I wanna we, and have it that we can build it. We can actually disrupt this. Escrow in terms of the media and our politics give people They ve all turn it into something. It doesn't make them feel shitty here for a puppet themselves there, the jury, therefore goal opponents that the rest of it, I'm sorry were excited, and I'm I knew I'd, be excited to have this conversation with you, because your own man, your own independent thinker, and there are so many Americans like you, that it is looking up and they don't recognize themselves now either the video I agree and from your mouth their gods years. I hope by wish you guys got and I'm an atheist. The pot

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