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housing queens? Is it, yeah yeah yeah coins, and was it pretty clear that ports was the way out for you, early, or did you have many other interests? Other interests, and when you grow up the tv our reading have, cable gallery, they watch regular tv tv on working time, but so are you grown up? Your watch and light flowers you're watching Elaine. I, like sites available you're watching chairs, you like that. So you then you become, O Connor interested in acting where you become instant. Entertaining we would also secure you're all You know you just like. Oh, I really like what I see on tv right then, when you go outside your plane tag plane which infringe playing catch, No, you don't really get only know about basketball and wanted to bring their will older? You know you, you get introducing sports baseball football basketball and you still just

you're, not thinking about pro at all, and you grew up with them mom dad. I know your dad was in the service. I think you're dead did Summah. Amateur boxing's will golden gloves yeah back in the day whose at the house is mom and dad at the house here my mom and dad grumble Basel and yet Emma operated age thirteen and they cannot be separated. and what was the housing project like has a price it is basically a you know, not a lot like education in the projects he now, so we are for the most part feminine. His colleague Robert is like normal, but then When you can all these, I why I wanna be scientists, you now have the idea really become a scientist here. in our different things. I dare so it is. It's a lot of fun, lotta, happy people, but they also have you bad times. When people get stress, people haven't days. Those bad days could turn into within. A split second

The chain someone lived against my life and present us with a split second somebody's here today going. Martin Weir big, you know that I know you saw somebody get does stand. I didn't see we're one another year museum and I wasn't there actually but run through with a table leg was it the table, that is a basketball game and they were fighting game and alarm, bra, and then the other players took them. Leg from the table, the shark, Latin, You know it had the score Instead, she lost her third that target pigment table. I think and then I went through our players. Heart. We were just time to renew their were gone away to play the game

Word around a neighbor was you know, as I see that the team is gone away, to go, play for game and then, when we get back with a well, my new in this was his name was moving died. He was somebody we look to. You know he was smiling. We really idolized. That can't you know we're not happen. Roy shocking, and it was, I play basketball out. I happened to me and I was like Things got here had at TAT time and you're gonna Nathan, ask a boar players and unable to change, and meanwhile we had tons the basque Laplante, probably three or for division, one teams and unable to an end for you wondered the whole mental health policy of your life, startup Cree Ban it's not something that young people think about much thought something there. Probably About the projects much, but at some point it became a crusade for you. Wanna did was an event.

It is just kind of start, creeping, India or live just interested. I was interested in how to help you, Being from unable in I was up. Pretty much. I never change pretty much the same person for my name, loaded, even when I made it an mba. I went back to my neighborhood. where some people would make it commercials work corporate in on me. the opposite way. I went back to my neighbour I was. I was still in the streets where my my friends from one of my friends be comin out of jail attitude. Ten years, dinner for two years now play was obviously you know like that. I'd stuff, you know so That being said, I was all interested in I'm. Two things can be the same person on the same person you from New Orleans are you from Chicago or he from in California. We just alike so. For me I was ok. How can you Can you on? help someone that is hopeless.

Stressed indifferent things. as I got? An idea was exposed to more exports, irritation smells therapy, so I was I was interested in. How can you pursue conversely, sways per se someone to or how so guide someone to fine there. It's fine summer. We can help the manatee indifferent things like that, and I started I'm interested in there, because I was slowly help myself, so otherwise, I wonder if you could help more people wasn't something, that in the NBA they were pushing Scots thing. You don't work owner where's coaches eminent obviously varies from coach to Cairo, more philosophical rattlers, but they're, saying hey this. Is it mental game and you know we can pay this all. You want and sweat all you but at some point. You're gonna, hafta, centre, yourself and hear some there's a good way to do where there are other play,

stolen it coaches. I think the NBA always had pulse on this because when I was nineteen, I came to leave in Baghdad stress and depression. Definite result, the balls was on top of it. The bulls is, on top of it more from a psychiatry, perspective, Not so much psychology and I think that was Finally, because my dad was or medication, rise, so when they was asking me like hey, what are you are right? I was I was always in practice. I was set at a quick trigger real, quick return so when you look at what my dad was diagnosed with, it was ok, maybe you should you have what you daddy, you know I didn't. A thousand more general diagnosis and then, when I got it all for diagnosis, that's right, started to recommend therapy in therapy and therapy in most of it came from your things. seen and been through. You know when I had the shell

all around me? That was protective of me. As you know, at any point in time. If not, I feel I use disrespect emulate. I gotta. I was always ready to react, so you know what their rights are respected. got into it off the NBA was deafening on top of it. They actually provided a lot of resources for me. not Chicago and got Indiana, it turns from over Donnie walls with very, very supportive, but back then wasn't coming out as myself, a tea. Was probably not going to say. Hey my actively, play a scene. A psychologist. All my play has seen a psychiatrist keep everything under wraps right and as well. That's what I was doing. Keeping on the raft. Could you don't want to be our publicly? You know saying: oh well, I'm serious ecologist obscene that psychiatrists where either or Does it make you seemed kind a week in a space back then, and ninety nine you're lying before I learned the media wasn't as sensitive

suited to that. Well, I will say it again: not look up a female tennis player decides to drop out of turn a man in the media. Just just mobilise is behind our saying she's a hero, the allowing gymnast their whatever you now now now ass Guide, it's it's swung back. You know pretty hard. The direction now, but obviously you had the stigma. He have the athletes my two you know you're, not you not justice citizen. Yet there have the sort of macho athlete thing, and I also have the stigma black community, which is you They know more than I do, but I just mean certain communities can embrace it more than others. You don't talk. Jewish guy he'll tell you the I just left

therapy, I'm on my way to therapy alien I'll have a bumper sticker says he's into her pre. Like a cultural thing, you know, if you can, I worked in Hollywood. You work with a lot of jewish riders. Their talk constantly tab, I gotta go to therapy or my therapist said you know they wear it on their sleeve, but the black ass. Probably not merely lies much back then, for I think, as I think, the reason, and not just in the Black Sea region also to asian Community Tourism agency, and so I think, and many other communities also, but I thank them. Anything you will and Actually I came over the top. Derby before school right savages, I thought it was important to do it and the meetings. I'm going to have the funding to fund therapy. rice, I think some people would see therapists, but I think the only but a stigmas. Also, you don't really have the capital to pay you aren't you dolls, our indifferent things which is wanted.

I'm interested in seeing how we can help solve all of it. Here. seems like with a lot of the stuff. That's going on. I mean since covert Nazareth kind of figured out that you don't have to go somewhere and wait a waiting room and run into people. You may know her suddenly. I am you know some. So people I have a little feeling kind of its a dentist office kind of thing, which I know it's good for me, but I just don't want to go there and have to deal with this, but I think if it can be done over the computer, here are the phone or wherever, where you don't have to go out and so do that at that age is gonna, help bring it to the masses, because you know gotta Beverly hills and there's a therapist on every other corner, but you go into the project prevalent gonna find the therapist for years joking around the street, so in a way this is gonna be real. Helpful. Yes, for that

and I also it it'll bring the price down, because you know therapist S, Evan Office and staff and overhead, and we are grown in letters of bills and all that stuff. The therapies can do it from their home office of their Dan that'll that'll do it and I'm kind of hoping- and maybe it's a covert thing on my dad's therapists. It's always something that I've always kind of thought about always kind of wondered why spin stigmatized people don't avail themselves, there's programme. That their their stop, but you have to go, can find it in our area and and then also there's the other side of it, which is probably the over prescription of drugs. I mean they're trying to get aids in I got yeah, it was actually the kids beyond effect. Don't have a meditate go for longer, you know not a meditative. You know I mean some people do, but not as many as their hand and out ahead of me is very profitable, and you know this is common controversial. I guess you see the medication

profitable, but but you know, I think we got, a figure out The diagnosis children, railway might have evolved, child is in class and legislative child. They want to be in class. I won't leave well Does it mean that child's created it, the child, might be very special to child? Might need breathed a child I want to draw. Instead, a red do math, you know, and we now those outlet for our children versus say no we're gonna put you. education, because we want you to read. You know we want you to focus on, We want you to sit in his chair that you are the kids. be a genius. You know, and instead of embracing a genius You know we kind of suppressing and then, child becomes a digital communication. If I'm saying that the right way were you where were you diagnosed with depression, depression and anxiety. Do you feel feel like you now growing up and said

environments, and maybe you grew up in this environment. It. It's kind of a lot of people have PTSD lot of people, you know we understand, the went to war saw Buddy die was traumatize now that persons having difficulty in integrating but I feel like so many families, so many neighborhood, so many worlds, especially hearing gunshots are you know you have your friend must stab at the table leg and I'll kill a hologram. the time how at the hours I was eleven as its super traumatic like a year. And I think a lot of people have like a kind of a low grade posts. For me, ex stress disorder from the society that we have created this true and they were asking them to go out, be normal. Basically, just leave this war zone and then into grade, and then not you know, show any signs, of this. So many people do. I made it

a true. I mean I mean so many people have p but PTSD, even got the jewels culture when you think about. The holocaust right, that's traumatic, gray, so in a vacuum. I I think about slavery. Thus, in the back my mind, if I think about when I walked home and then I saw you know one of one of my friends running on the floor and went to time re frozen kind, even moved the brains off the floor, customers to coal dust. It does try does traumatized in writing and in if you look at war, as globally traumatize America's people. Generally, don't wanna see other people get hurt right now, no matter what the reason is right, so I think you're right in Reno. Think about that what was taken placed the pandemic has happened right people, gotta get the vexing? Some people want to get the vaccine they traumatized. Could they have the vaccine some people watch? How much are they lost their jobs or the pandemic? So with there being said, We know that in the future

gonna be some people stress right. So how do we like prepare for all this stuff? What is your regiment like? We do, meditate on a daily basis. Do you I got up this morning, I went the ocean of what I do and then I sat there and I saw the school of dolphins go. I and I just stared at it, and I was like bomb pretty centred that that's the good, of course, anything with nature is, is good, but when you do it. Do you have diet do meditate did take. old plunges Sidney Sana a year I think what you did was grey of Nature's gray. I like to look stars? You can see a lot. I lay but thats really soon, to me just looking open it, NL, it is the same stars. You know unless it's like raw, clear night,

I used to meditate more military much. I used to listen to a bay music, singing bow sound bathing. I really like. um like the rain. I really love will raise a minute when it rains I'd go outside versus stands. I it also says cover things I can. I do that. I, like you, love and then, Obviously we are in a lawyer and entertain. You just gave up every day. Does not value the tale at all in early depending on where you rat career. I and the last week- and I flow in one of those sensory deprivation tanks- and I realise that you know it's not what a lot of people say. You don't really hallucinate and things like that, what it which you do do, as you will lose total track of time, and you have to kind of think of things to do where you lose track of time. That is

that seems to be a kind of a foundation for what we're talking about, could be meditation could be be wherever you are, but it's a kind of losing touch with with time. Are you going to this tank for an hour completely black, and at some point the lights come back on after an hour in you, you would have no idea why? How long you are therefore ravages. Yeah It's how you can only taken anything in your body. Now you just just in salt, water, your buoyant and you're. Just you just putting in it's completely slurry, not it's not for me. I I guess some people might feel cos. phobic about small tank. Now they kind of the kind. I have a room kind of up. You know You'd hate your head feeding, doc, not going away and a lot of solid headlights exalt

well, salt, to the point where it keeps you buoyant. Why don't sink so you just sort of flow and its plainly black and start. You know you have thoughts like how long I've been in here are the answers I dont know cause you don't have wrecked. As you know, when you, even if you're, not looking at a clock when you go in the de envy. In waiting right. You can guess what a half hour is verses in our versus fifty minutes. You now you got. He had a pretty good idea, because your conscious by it, get yourself in your position. We really know where time is it's a real good step toward kind of get. You get me. Centred and said the float, the tank is the tanks. Pretty good

you should use yeah, really try that one out yea ass, the lowly our own in China for sure they have places all over town go in their pockets Mozilla, aren't we really do? There is a lot of new things happening. People are very into psychedelic. Now yeah. I know Thyssen talks about an ally in his pocket as lies. Not a great thing you can do. You know well that that banks begs the question: can you hear a lot of people, Micro, dosing and young mushrooms and suicide and stuff like that when they go out? My hang with a sham and here in the woods- and they throw up all over the river, but a each to me, I dont. Really, you know turn my nose up added, but I think I don't know ingesting something to get to a place. Doesn't

at far off from the pharmaceutical side of it. To me like which is, you are ingesting some to try to get get yourself to a place. yeah, and I again enough it works like I'm, not uptight about it or anything, but I I still go. Would it be better if we could find that place without ingesting irregularity? Rather with some version of meditation are or something because it all A kind of feels like a crash diet are not occur died, but it sort of feels like you now wait, watchers hot fudge cake. That's low, calorie, really a diet unanimous trying to kind of game this them a little bed. Maybe it's a little bit of a life had known somethin, but to me he's still kind of end up in the same place like Maybe we can do this with the tank. Maybe we can do this with meditation. Maybe we can do this in a with nature think sell some people experience nature,

I'd like things that reference earth also that you can do men medicine you know medicinal, but they also natures, grandfathering enough people experience major now not not merely. I mean that the to the people, probably most centre door the commonest or that whatever as they are, people that either get out. nature, a lot or work their hands in the battle that are shaping metal, Milman cabinets all day. They seem to be completely centred all the time. I don't mean I don't mean good. Rose, I just mean their own. Have bad mood swings in they seemed they seem to be gauge guy? I have this theory about us getting off the farm and getting out of the shops and getting into this digital cubicle world that I think, is sort of wreaking havoc with peoples

Perhaps it is because you know when you're it makes sense, can judges building things which are mine. Not necessarily or you're. Seeing things Look in your instagram basically the phone is sought, then, on the other side of that phone, like this table, right, you know, is not- is not real right assumption of by design and I think we are building stuff. It probably satisfy actually build the southerners someone's gonna, usually when you're gone from here I can see why a satisfying you don't you like an artist saw a craftsman. Yeah. I wonder I mean I do feel like we need to give more people into that world that Look at is kind of a step backwards. He and I like oh that's with our grandparents, were we are now where digital like, where we're coming up the start, company is financed and start a nose fun in and scary, at the same time, did dad Are you grow up? Your your family was intact until Europe thirteen year,

your mom worked at a bank lower than bank and your dad I got my dad was like working at coal or Hospital Roosevelt Island between Queens Manhattan, feeding. Patients loud mainly what he did, clean the catching. The fool bring the food to the to the. patients rooms lap, mostly Paralympics could you run out of the projects I mean you had to working parents they were intact, people, want to get out or their thoughts about it. It is a year interesting because our neighbours, when you got a queen, which, even though like housing projects and possibly maybe below the poverty line, but when you go outside, whenever six and you see the big lawns is actually a really beautiful place really unification or that the buildings are strongly built, it back in and nineteen to back, a nineteen ten or something like that, and that structure still standing if his coat

outside you got here, If hungry you proud to governments, probably giving you medicate, Medicaid or Medicare differ things like that, so you know you're, ok! So when you grow up like that, you're just imagine baseball you, but not yet I'm saying you have, but you don't you re an but you know what that being said. It a beautiful place. Sometimes you don't want to leave. When I went to the NBA, that's my mom, Sergei my regard, moved to Chicago she's, an anomaly in Greece with Mama Daily Queens Voice is and then I said: ok on the lingua does give us now, I'm back actually went to go apply for apartment in back them up. Back in my neighbour and when you are in the NBA one thousand NBA, and then I went All the time is, is such a beautiful place? I didn't want to leave, and some people probably don't have the chance to leave I can imagine I didn't even thinking about leaving you know the p While I agree with it,

section of the violence sometimes, but the people just great employees ridge, do you worry, are I'd marry. You tell but I would think about. I come from some my welfare and some food stamps than a free house, and I'd have l when so that I felt like it, it cannot hobbled my mom and I feel like she wanted to work. You know she and have to work like stuff was being dropped off. The food is being dropped, all all the stuff that historic Really you had to go to work for was being provided. Not lavish way like you said, food stamps and things like that, but you had enough I really feel like it killed her ambition. True and I dont know if you saw that or see that in that environment that she drove in choices, thanks facility drawbridge having an assault on the drawbridge. Parents says: okay, if you want

twenty thousand dollars. All you thousand dollar. Whenever you know whatever it is, you're gonna go Our friend, you gonna know cleaner room, you're gonna go being nice lawn and moved those the logs gonna for every time. Verses. If you, poor. Can you fifty cents in my mind, I personally, I feel so bad. We will have that his fifty cents. I didn't do nothing for it oh you don't have no reference on. You know how to work for something so well a rich or poor, you to work for it, eventually. I agree it's kind of interesting because you think, while rich people that just give their kids a bunch of shit, real, always people do not know. You know Mosely rich people, understand that you gotta work and that's how they got richair. Whenever one thinks it's daddy's money or something, but most people- I have money, they worked really hard virus, whatever some. What they do is they build

they synthesize work. They they make the they make dumb work for their kids as an exercise and I mean that can hire made. Maybe the have a may write any May. They could do everything, but they go now. You're gonna have to go. Do this, I mean rich people go go right does leaves in a one pile and then move the pile they outside alone and they a gardener, but they understand you're gonna have to work to get this yeah yeah yeah, and when I grew up with which just syrup Be angry at the government complain that they didn't get more step, but we never really got the exercise in you. Gotta go do something I know to get that has never worked out. You know it's not you. I did work for the most part. I don't remember me, haven't even a job when I was young. I didn't pack bags at one point in time to try to make some extra money. I remember that

Comes running off handbags, ninety data regarding restore how the grocery store you know you bring the bags, you notice my department, maybe you give fifty cents on the dollar. You know, but for the most part We have food him, we hadn't apartment. So in our. Sometimes we didn t care apartment. You know really clean. All the time, we had it? Was it? Was it? Wasn't? I wasn't hours Yeah I mean it's it's I mean it's. It's kind of the difference between the way you read something if you give your kid a car when they turn sixty versus town, the save up and mobile lawns and earn money- and you know you give up some money and I'll pay for half of the kid takes care of the car because it gives invested in the car right and they ve got some. then in the game, and I don't think we really fully stand that as a society we go, some kids don't have cars, give kids cars, but if you just give it to em, they don't know how to take care of it.

limitless, earn their way into the responsibility position. Look after it and maintaining it then and stuff, and you don't we the kind of reconcile that caused it does create a sort of a lethargy. It's like you're. Just this is our and this is our free I'd reoffend, it's not Robin it off to render we're talking about I know, we're doing a lot, a lot of people doing great things. You know trying to help the people below the poverty line differently like tat, but- still handicap. You know you got it. We should make our children work for establishing yeah. You can also go your career illegal, Google clean up. You are you neighbourhood. You know, and yet, when not like, overdoing it, but learn how to work because a lot of people below the poverty line. You have a lot of time. You were going to ninety five with some people are working on the fire, things. You can be done in your community to build up your skills in Ireland.

Lookin, Buffalo or Baltimore is abandoned buildings. abandoned houses and abandoned brownstones walk airlift clean it up Wireless figure out how to work and fix it up and everything. I don't think you can do to build up. you know you're trade? You know we can actually do something nice. I completely great my feeling if I was in charge, I'd be like Mary. Give you money from the government, but I need you to go to trade. School right You go look out of wealth or pipe fit some draw. Something here will probably not draw a subject if you're on your own tat carry around you have any thoughts about his situation. His case yeah, I think I think, is really interesting. You know I'm one that I didn't. did the vaccine, but I got them actually does they want to be home. the reason I want to get the vaccine was because they want to get near Jose. Doesn't readers with somebody want to get it so bad?

wait a minute later analyse I'm not for my footing, Is everyone should be able to make their own medical decisions IRAN from and then the other part is, as you have to weigh things out, you know my dad's. Ninety try the vaccine, my son's fifteen, he doesn't need. Maxie learn have some nuance, thoughts about it or someone who was infected. as natural immunity. They don't need it like. We can pass this out a little better conscious, be everyone get the vaccine or you can't leave your how I know it is like a bit. You know it's a bit extreme. I give you don't people people say you don't get. It then I woke up one day and if you said you did the vaccine, you're gettin, Hamley lifelike woke up one day and that's what happened. Some people say law. All idea was I just didn't get the vaccine. You might you know me, I feel like if you didn't want to get the vaccine, he can't play well Everything's done you can play

like it was nothing else to talk about I've seen a lot of, Bashing, like he should get him out of here, but why so? Why? Some mad all I did was not get the vaccine and lose seventeen million dollars light. he lost. Seven do not know how much we have and do you hear I now do what anybody else in and he can't go inside the arena so he's I know one risk inside that arena. Rios, I don't know what the owner of the big issues when we hit a quick, answer them all, absolutely barn or keep on keeping on here. Let me tell you about: podium business owners, you know there aren't enough. Our The data waste playing found tag, the list of customers you need to reach doesn't get any shorter specially when businesses good. That's. Why

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now on cod J, Cutler Apple Pie, gas, podcast, one Spotify, whoever you get your party right. So, let's see we're talking the app yeah, so I ill look. It's also interesting that the same people that were applauding people that took a stand or this there's, a big, never sticker, said resistance, high the same people that had the bomb. sticker resistance on their press and Santa Monica are all go and after Kiley Tiree Irving Rights so why is it that resistance and hears? Rarely? What we're down to you now it is the type of resistance of their thing is, is resist. You know

tromp resist whomever they don't like, but they don't want resistance. They want. This are very their resistance. There form their brand their idea. This is very true. They went free speech except where they don't want people they disagree with talking. Then I want that kind of serious is very scary very contradicting ass humans. We are contradicting by you know. That's why I never voted until last year. The first vote on the result of a vote. It can, I say I don't wanna, keep pickin sides every four years, began, we want, we haven't we vote, we don't get you want. We met at the next four years. I would find it gives each other before you have another big fight. This person, horrible, is like how about we just focus on You no more, for there are a lot of bad. There are lots of bad things, tat we the change and there are things as that's, ok, rice or how about we just try to focus on moving forward, and I did it

active, you know, and you never carry through a moment. He was heard in the next moment. He's not You know about a safe. By the same as that people, and which is he's like I don't like the two sides, not just like the move forward as Well- luck! If you want, you with your position and make a decision, and that could be therapeutic You now have one went nuts over Iver MAC Dan Hydroxide clerk wenches. That's between wherever in their physician, to figure out whether with it sensible protocol or not has nothing to do with me, Ray Rabbi known when so many people infused themselves into everyone else's business it. It is in its no way to run a society by the way. Some people are really scared. You know some people are really scared of access, and something I was, and you have to fear from the people. Kids, women, men, twelve year old, forty Earl, you know, like some people scare, you know these woke up one day and age. They have,

Take a vaccine and if they don't they can work, you know, if you do, you can do using right- and you still have to wait- a man has to play in the other day and my master, he said he'd all alone, and I want to call it the name or, if he's watching a sober, I'll tell a story. there is one pulled, mass above your nose, I let or am I have. They did do paperwork and I'm like Are you serious out, and I see a cargo ratsey, seldom antibiotics eurozone illustrating dealt a flight? I didn't say that lie at the heart of the aid. Scariest words you can hear on a flight is, on behalf of your Seattle Base Flight crew, because the flight crews at Seattle are flocking Nazis. That's all where the flight kurdish rum, if they're out a used in that, don't give a flight so far out to see at all they got a fix. You settle your hash in fixed the world.

Very interesting, you gotta pick the flight crew. That's out of somewhere taxes are Florida. They don't bother with you for you here, Seattle based flight crew. You are screw, you know and our thoughts about Kobe. You must have some doubts about him. they always Gregg Around- and I remember Mornin just moved and see no, like maybe Six months before, in sea, knows probably eight miles from where the crime like maybe eleven miles, I mean it smell the San Fernando Valet, it's the same direct yards not to not too much further down and her boulevard near east in the direction of the crash. Yes but when I later looked out, are you to flight path? I was like we heard about relegates the review to flight path. nothin told me, I did hear helicopter ammonia and I want it was a normal monuments. Very foggy, but not an I was about, I wasn't going nowhere and I remember

Look outside of. It allows fully foggy today. I remember him something Lenore Chopper and you know whatever A call from someone who operate I like it aims at a Padua were called Europe. He called me who to end he's at home call me persuasiveness, applying them call them back. Then I will kill you. Don't you know I don't play games then I call Covent Garden actually traveller can I call to like. I just can't believe this come first thing he said was man is truly bursting. He said Goma I just apprised of instant reflecting. But it was really know when you reflect our Toby. Yes, it is still surreal estimate like almost become a real, I'm still, not now think about a man called we passed away the pandemic happened right after

told you passing away with justice the pandemic. and then the joy for thing happen, and there were. We went from call me one day to the pandemic. We, besides little stop grieving in MID grieve right? So nobody even had a chance to really sit with us yeah right you to have a full chance to sit with this as I just forgot about it. oh well? Emerging now became in Gaza. Our programme has also done this is so Things got on was he I mean you know others I don't know, maybe compare him too. Jordan a little then in terms of his work ethic? His attitude is willing to do anything to win now, sometimes rates. Don't like that, because, unfortunately, if it's a team

our coach or whoever it is back and rub. Some people are wrong way because they're on people all the time, they're asking a lot of themselves but they're asking a lot of other people around them. I ultimate. with some time. People realize oh, that's excellence and they always kind of labour, Speck video, with a little distance rang like a kind of do with that tough coach. You had high school or something like him at the time, but yeah you get a little dear sends you realize that was good needed that he brought out the bass and me was what was your relationship with Kobe, like was it was. It was like Speck DSL Toby, he was around for four years as I was in the east coast. Coming up. One of the best wing defenders work on our way to the championship. Toby was on wait to be Michael Jordan. I will play a work on his way to win in more championships. So when you meet face to face in the game, is a slight ok

I'm in my prime in we're just gonna die. They are smash, mouth basketball as how we gonna do this, and we did for years for ten years up until we play where we play with each other in I was surprised when the leg is called in. And allowed more inhabitants are always respect, Toby remind me so much a Michael Jordan on them. big fear, Michael Jordan like languages by recovery, who reminds you Michael Jordan, Phil Jackson, room who coachman Lamar Odom, reminds me a little bit of Pepperdine Antonio coach, like this incredible right. It wasn't much respected defensive player, the yearning for marine hair yeah, so you would get Kobe would die What would the mindset go in like if you knew you're gonna guard Kogi tonight? Would you set a point? Would you number like. I don't want him to go over twenty eight. Portugal has always keep people zero and one that went up also recalled. Even Could the stats

overall here, Some big games have maybe more how it say. Seventy percent or sixty percent of the games that we play get each other. He got the best. Maybe eighty percent? I got the best, so I did held him under twenty a couple times which is really difficult to Yahoo. the broad I think I might a hell abroad or the twenty once or twice. Maybe three times On the branded probably properly eighty percent success rate I am against me, but you and I but number like for you can do we hold them under twenty that's a good day or I shall avowal called me to bow of I'll call the toolbar Twenty four, that's a good day, ass, a lot of points, but that's a good day right. What about the room Le Braun, I would say like twenty five I've. Twenty eight the working people of rank ass, a thing

The brown is he's not only a score he's a grey passer, solemn on this. Everybody in chaos, sailor brought you don't. You know cause he's gonna go out, Sheila Bronze. Looking at that, defenders against making his teammates about something you got a shift from God in him to play off the boy than when he gets the ball back. He so big. affairs is hard to stop him. When he's going downhill, rent, rice, You keep a handout about twenty five. I was true that vat and keep him there. That's interesting that you gotta, have a number in your head cannot over It was a bad charities. Thirty ruins my day Authority ruins my day. And I can't sleep I can now when you look all issues I hadn't NBA came after loss. Aha, was it wing issues was a tough guy La Brown because of its size, northern province. Something different. Leubronn was big, so I made it

More challenging. For me I would also be a big ass. More fully in the brown was about guess aims to. Seventy Well, I'm to sixty two sixty five big small forwards. You know I didn't call he's about to twenty. Call me was, has so much grin. You know he's You know you got him you're, wasting energy, trying to stop doing everything you can. Fourth quarter get tired. You know: you're exhausted, he stages going The only now is like anything three is not ass: physical, Buckingham. He still scoring basketball, which is like mentally tiring me. Now, I just saw I was watching. I don't know if it was thirty, four thirty or so then, back down the aisle dogma- ass in the palace, I popped up, and I told him Have you seen it? He asked? How was it was a dove, accurate,

it was it was. It was great. I liked it because you know when you look at them, When you look at the broad medicine in the palace next day, Alice all models like literally the next day. You know, we have tried everything I can to avoid a situation. It was for it was well for pacer pistons and turned into brouhaha me, you guys can watch one can go online, but it started off. You were filed hard. I fell been Wallace, oh you found them I fell Ben, ah Ben said it was hard referees, just called the. regular fell by wasn't been far. I found them in been pushes me, which is like Moreover, flagrant was it was like a flagrant one. Maybe they did it still they. They tourists data. Still call a flagrant on then so then, normally

You do about push. You will gain the referees, give your signal, Diego Tech, I'll give you a straight line they out and out with a finger pointing out in this situation. You know they just in between us and they never ejected been so Ben is so I got it. course tabled lay down because I'm like We don't replaying basketball and what are we doing? Saucer I'll just lay down until you rest get this The control and in five minutes thence drones tower and nothing has been by his drones tower turned his head, then You know drones on there and I'm just like we're. Not we're not another fight. Then the fancy again all crazy DNS, when a guide, through the bear you know I wasn't, then, for the family and the fair. I think the referees and fanciful. Why don't happen so the you're here GEO Review Group,

the stance that figure out who, through the barricade governest, is a figure it out. I have not heard anything or punch somebody hit you with the beer woman Chances you're gonna, find that guy I followed immediately, you found the guy is Otherwise this lab. So when I was on a scores table was laid on my head pesticide, North the guys I hit me was legislative herself to the left arm up so when I got hit my eyes was pointing. In that direction, so was like. I looked up and I've seen this guy what his arm up like this, you don't I've. Given you don't want to those black power. We know signs. Why am I gonna write Zone up in the air chairing a soda. I was. I owe you hit me Ray saw run up in his direction. Even if he didn't hit me was looking about, direct should have become a hit. So this

he was the wrong person still was happy. I got hit so anyway there. You know chairs, is in the ways are kind of stumble on United. no punch at him. You know that John Grey, who actually through to come. He skinny, as I was running like oh disguise, comin up here. Let me act like I'm not involved in this right. So then I get to the other guy than John Ring comes from behind, pulls me off his van he's afraid. John Greece, a fan of the past is a big fan of the peasants, vitally no home life. Did I get here known before that? Not enough? What do I get with the cover bear. This dejection puts the guy, I gotta get back and I get hit so I'm about if the guy who bear at this point? Another beer you, nobody what will you fast forward? Nothing more than a story if you want, but when you fast forward the dial put his fist up, Bet John Green. Fifty dollars out you can hit me went to bear her job.

Tell me a story later after we start to John right so bottom guys was in Iraq, I would have never known if I reach out the job here was a blessing in disguise because out of went away, Cancun, tat. I had the wrong person, no one in my mind. I didn't because our guy was chairing five years later the guy by fifty thousand we deserve the good tanner hitting it had. They deserve the judge shock just shut the modest genes, and that was that you lost all your sponsors and leisure levels and everything because it at one moment here was over. There was life, it was. It was crazy. He wouldn't understand like how crazy what do you think you could put a number two that one moment around fifty two hundred problem fifty twond you dollar million million here. Think about It- and you know what my life now is: a gallop and militant leave. Teach you a hundred million, but I'll tell you. Why did so? When you look at endorsements,

planet. I was top fifteen different supplier of the year, you know authority more mba at twenty three years. All that's age you were just age ILO? That's it! That's a planet! Ask MAX, contract Roma Thirteen only be a first team difference, all start commercial. As so now, when you look at my contracts, to know a lot of money on that point, but you look in my car, forty two million first contract. Second, what'd. You know you aid Doolittle by eighty seven million about maybe nobody told me in India now when you look at what other people are getting at might skill level I'm not going to say names, but they were getting like ninety million dollar contracts. million dollar contracts I was on a team with Don T yeah, I mean you know: go to guy on that team with with yeah means a hall of fame. my prime I was ever twenty five Wanna team. We I mean when you look at it.

battalion, that's a ninety million dollar player, so The team do offer me MAX contracts, I'm not blame uniformity is by the way, The blame everything, but I'm just saying that incident run affected me tremendously, financially and beyond, and no and no opera deals. Since what what do you think I was Twenty three year old version: it yourself when you think the more enlightened version of yourself would have done several years later. I can't see somebody just answer to my face. I mean not just smacking that answer, although I do like. I don't know that can sit there mighty through lemme. See like to think about is obviously some I do so I have voted is our deepest right. Darn meditation, none of it, but I think if I was pointing again,

I daresay somebody would hit me again while I was pros? An mba. there's no way, I'm Runnin stance, it costume of financial decision. It costs me. I don't have a man like outside, maybe that's different Bolivar, unlike. in setting professional setting it just too much however, you now you are fairly reverse too much when you said fifty dollar hundred. I was like most not fifty thousand two hundred now, because that's not that when I wouldn't make a difference, Another fifty million two hundred, then you got why but then yeah yeah. I get fifty turn when we break it down. Come in and you look at you look at you. You know that guy's name because he sued you or something like that. You know that actual person up and he's the one who suit us was the one who ran on the core when I did he sued us for running on. It was three people.

Taken me on a court, and I didn't know it. I thought I was so traumatized by what I can watch it. The tape I thought it was one guy it was, people trying to jump me. and avoid suit. One guy said: why haven't you run down the guy Green also Abu was so I was very depressed for years late we're, not so it when I left when I got back next year, in Indiana I was sure people. I was scared to going to arenas led now, because I'm scared of people off by anyone down The reason I was just scared, because what I want to play basketball. I want to be great and I don't they are to be great point. Can I'm so very lost my promise, something to me well, post, traumatic ass. The sword. I admire your traumatize. I was so scared the go to India to go to Detroit in Indiana Jersey, so and in the US, you find that arise after that. Then I get traded to Sacramento.

but two hundred and seventy three pounds at this time when I graduated to sack super depressed. Right, so they looked out over down when I got the sacrament, I say Rick, I don't think I will be able to play. I don't want to make this a big story, but if you could do anything for me, Please find a way to keep me on a bench a kind of want to leave the NBA while two years before the alternatives, MBA sausages, we're government who pump life back into my model, career said he's around this team as long ago as far as you take us and in what I'm trying to some Japan's every was last place in the west in Sacramento- and I said, ok, we're new players in my laptop I come out to meet us. We're not gonna play off my life. We got you to play off then two years pass after that. you're coming out of depression, a little bit I said you know what I need to reach out to this guy because guys on my mind, you know so I go on Twitter,

purchase. If anybody could find me. Where is it this is two thousand several two thousand seventh of it. So save anything, and finding the first treaty the farmer's privilege, hungering I'll, take you to lunch. About two minutes past and I took them we got it. I don't want anybody to think. I'm China, John Grown, so I take it down as I do that I put the pitcher but if a farmer has put this guy I'll, take you to lunch, but they might thirty minutes to die from cargo, so I know what it says is: John Grey Hairs is number two do not took down a tweet. I called I'm going back. Your data says this number has is no longer in service. But if you want the new not give you the number you gonna wanna bite have nobody still new number called that number and his wife picture where she says hello, less aid, as has run a testimony to John Green, and she says

Therefore, in a round of my home as a non serious, this is run a test. I want to turn the job because and then we went to a lot, but I think that we can go and we can without a good message from what we ve been through an it has to know our differences. You know you know and ensure the world. As you know, you have drama you can get or a mailing us about the fifth stop or the guys who, together with the big guy, actually hit me with a bright. Let me and mainly was because in our neighbourhood, like people be drama and when you drama with someone but I really understand like ok adjournment of only the huge scale. You said I was like certain I wanted to do so anyway. She says I rise on a phone. The fund is the ever thought he comes to the phone here I am in a backroom wrong who says wrong turn he answered pick up. The phone says,

hey what's up and crazy and had been five here's a forthright add on notice guy. He just picked it up like you knew me and I was like guys, really crazy, and the first thing he said was hey man. I want to apologize first thing you, Sir, that's why people are, we shall do. I I must beg dagger apologizes immediately. He apologized first thing you didn't. I wanna poligized me told me the story. He say by the way, Still I was little drunk. You know, I'm a little drunk. We haven't got time. You re one of these. The delusional fan I get it. You know, you probably did you think, I'm a player in a different light rail from all walks of America. Some people just don't respect players because they just don't it's not right, but if I can get you you told me you know that I made a big guy made about

our constituents as can pass upon a bed- that's hoodies. There was a school teacher construction worker. He was he he still as construction work marries. A college constructs we're here. He liked bill homes, Vista developer, development, they also isn't a class. Is that that's a mean in I mean he was going to his own stuff? He got divorced. You know if you never know where someone is going to answer. You know no, some new, how bad it Is it? Did you ever physically made him return? Sometimes we text back for some time, yeah, he's gonna, where a I may give founded pretty healing. I would say I mean you got some javelin issue. I think he's a these accounts of his guards. They don't I'm not a big fan of closure, but isn't like you got some closure on this and were able to perform after that was a lady. I helped you toward performing. Wasn't it was about time for me, you know that the people to see

like I envy that was out animal what they talking about. But for me that was I've changed from legacy that legacy changing from me yeah. It's I mean you know, sadly, circling back to Kobe, just an instant just nervous. Nothing One minute you laying down guph around or spurn around or clowning around or something the next minute Europe. Seventy mill box here, how there are the ballot. Copper hits the side of the mountain. Like you know, things change for sure. Well, let me give the potter a plug, metaphorically speaking, and empowering the listeners troopers their dreams and passions. I guess at Thyssen's on a doctor, whereas on it's, a lot arrange should with tweed at met a world, thirty, seven

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