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my colleagues and I'm Kyle, let's go and did you Jus James White? It was an apologist, he runs alpha and omega ministries are in a bunch of books and a lot of different topics. He kind of inherited smart people, I am calvinist any kind of each. used me to Calvinism are at least three and four First, the Calvinism that I had discovered on in more shallow sources so I kind of like been endowed with a sort of well. I I had been kind of introduced Calvinism through, like christian pop music, yeah sure through movies like final destination and shallow, through a through, like like John MC, Arthur nothing that he shallow but, like I just heard from certain, Miss and shallow John Mccartin area, even though he is more on. Our jealousy is not like a pop level right, like these pop monitor

We came out a different world. I guess you go to school, Aesop's past or not a scholar and an apologist so he's he's gonna he's gonna put things out. What do you do? additionally signs of above a weird definitive about what I do not dying of anyway. Yeah. Do Kyle knew this guy, it's not more than me. Thank you read more with books. I've been reading, even but not every city, like a scholar and like a pastor that just like free like pasturing, it is because she was what is the good guy road, so we're done

we're going James Right and it's the good governance. Yet he debates Catholics he D made King James only exists. He remains p thank you don't need scripture. Are you just other stuff to besides scripture makes people that that forgot? but the trinity and he debates Islam, Zionists muslim, Muslims like some guy with a mega hat would say much less we thoroughly destroy the spy guess we're going attack the genes. Why he's a common view? The digital airwaves right now comes our I well doktor James. Why? Thanks for coming on, do we call you doctor, like Doktor Joe Biden or pastor, you insist or Master leader game James or a priori best, I think, Jimmy now

in writing. Do you know how long is this guy you? Yes, that's it we're done my let's get stirred yes I mean I don't even know where to begin you you're you're ministry and in your apology, attics work, as does spanned, so my you just in front of us. We have done And much loved book collection Can I have the honour of I don't know, there's a cam resumed in on this or not. I was Your news to your work through the dividing line reform, the ology was kind of the primary area benign interbreeding. Your book on Mormonism the king, James, only controversy and Andy, you ve really zero Dan on these specific areas, a study on an up. I would you

You think, is your your main area worthy to say: Apologetica, reformed, reformed, yeah I would say appalling apologetic, but we ve always emphasised the need to have apology place within the context of a healthy, Ology within within the church. For example, I think one of the greatest danger, two apologists as they tend to get disconnected from the church, and so they end up being blown rangers out there in all on their own sort of an so. We ve always avoided that have always been a churchmen, so I've been an elder in a church for for many many years now, and so I preach, I just preached- this evening at apology. A church ya had jumped urban on my fellow master they're just recently and actually had a real rough weekly. So, literally, on Friday night he's like James stood, it's been a rough. We do, you think, maybe possibly apply

Ok I'll do something fun, and so I am I Caprice, dear John Nine, an idea use the greek tax. I just try alive, translated and commented as we went through it and then made application, and I so I do that regularly. So I think there is a balance that is necessary to stand up. Logic, for as long as we ve done it because I want to make is coming up, will be forty years in twenty twenty three, that the minister, has been in existence and most politics ministries. Don't last outline and so I think the longevity has been because we don't just do that. I'm gonna teach a wide variety of time of people ages, things like that and we're doing all of theology, not just not just one particular group or things like that, so yeah Sama Nepal, Just what I'm also pastern a church and I've done a lot of other things as well, so

Try to be well rounded, But you tat, salary, armed you're, something like it and then there's somebody without going to TAT said that church, yup actually actually have an entire left arm. Sleeve early Rwanda, but you haven't gotten worse than that is not everything is not a prerequisite that budgets. There is no there's no, no there's, no, no examination racing along those lines had a tiered for every Mormon, you have converted bicycle lower. Our basic one is Jeff. Dermal would probably be drew up. Ah, yes, you catch me: Jonah, that's the important part but well yeah. I actually, if you ve, seen

the right, the other Bastards Luke, who we call the bear is much bigger than all of us combined, I think and self are not only concerned about Ebay, rushing the pulpit at apology. I don't really get very far in that situation, but yeah obvious you just warmer world Roddy champion in his sir, what weight group and all that does not cause any he's, still train. so we got a lotta, doesn't go. Let's stop worry grabs your he ended. Does all sorts of things your fingers and die immediately in that kind of thing, and not non that? I'm not into that! That's it that's. I know he was Johnny Cage and mortal combat you could be Veronica and in a fever, seem bureaucracies. I thought I was sure teeth and was going to try with the fates out. It would be very glad to be able to adjust radiology, be. If you I will comment, I well

I dont know because only wash my son way. Oh did you. I mean you understand me, I'm so all that for the first video game, I I remember seeing really loud and palm, which I did play pong, but real video game was woven Stein. Three d, unlike that, unlike at three eighty six with that of e g monitor in that gives an idea of what that was all about buncher yeah. I did, we followed pass them the sent three. You know the sad why that was. That was great, but other than that I gave up on all that. He looked around the guy's head into his body with the king, James Bible, yeah. Why he's until it but he's? Hence the king, James, I'm a united genetically engineered Zadig. Theirs by arrived he get pound. He could use that. Trinity, because head off look I'll ask the question

The only realistic apology for second anymore, we're gonna dig into each of these areas. I think you're the one stung about in a lot of like common mischance, actions that people have about all these areas, because one thing is interest me when starting the king James, only controversy as psychiatric talk to a king, James only person, like you, ve, no idea responded things a bit sake as they sound good. You know some whatever of apology. You guys never shut down during the autumn, the the covert lockdown right right, yeah. We were convinced from the start. That was very important. You needed to minister to all the sheep, including those who feel that To continue to observe Lord Supper and to be instructed the word of God, And- and thankfully, will in Arizona and R R governor always left ay and winning in essence for us to be able to do that. It really is.

for us to do that in Arizona. It's not so easy to do it if you have a church in Sacramento California, for example, We stand that, and so we ve never been amongst those trying to say why re else's is wrong and we're right in all there s a kind of stuff, but we have can a strong stance on that and I think that everyone's graft we taking a strong stance after January twentieth of next year. Things are going right now. I have a strong feeling that we have not seen the last of these types of issues and for all the need to laugh and to use, satire and everything else. I think honestly, the the church in in western countries, as as I'm observing this in Australia in Germany places I used to travel and I don't think I'll ever be able to travel there again but places I used to go all the time. I flew one hundred and sixty nine thousand miles in twenty nineteen and I don't believe I'll fly any miles in twenty twenty one. That'll give you an idea, but in

this places there already facing so many difficulties, and so many challenges to being the church, and having the freedom to speak out and to speak out vitally important issues I'm not sure. If anybody I saw the book irreversible damage by Abigail Schreyer near him and random, ok, yeah by himself beaten, if your father and you have daughters that book- make you this really angry when you realize what is really going on? That's a subject that people say less politics, no, its! Not just thus the drastic back, the God made us male and female. That's a good thing. It is an important thing: that's a creative thing, that's a live thing and sense. see did that we have to be very clear in speaking, his words and right now, that's right, costly in our society, very, very costly and So this law had our direction. We need to have a

a strong foundation, and I can only hope that in the already we have them laying the foundation for our people, our Churchill, people, revenue industries, give them that foundation, be prepared to deal with. What's coming up in the in the challenges it will be facing us suitable that they're gonna released the crack in, and Dr Weir president? Well, let watches this morning? I tweeted out basically that the framers the constitution never envision the situation where a very large portion of the society would want to undo the reality of the constitution and that's what we're facing today, and so the system really isn't designed to survive being overthrow internally, and so Oh, I've seen some of the scenarios martial law calling for in your new election, etc, etc. I would probably also the if it if that happened, I think Trumpet Lucy election. So

I don't see what can be done to be programmes with you, but the who knows. I dont know us now between now generally twenty first, the it seems to me that we're going to have a very leftist administration, I said you may have seen as I tweeted back in May of twenty twenty one may this year. I said if this alive, Action is primarily down by mail in balancing the law, after all on this country, the next forty years, and as I say, I knew this type of elected processes just subject. A tremendous amount of frauds I do think that that has taken place. The statistics, just don't work the number is not work by, can you prove it? Well,

If we had a free press, we might be able to errors, nerve and widespread frog. Odor from here. You just triggered the little check out aspect of two sorry little message point and that's the point: isn't it gets? You kicked off you too, that gets. You know that it is not to be picked up. There is no press anymore and there was the assumption that there would be a free press. And the world view desire to speak the truth in the design. The Constitution Newt. You know Call from John Adams See said the constitution is sufficient. the governing of a moral and religious people. It is wholly insufficient for the governance of any other. As John Adams and I think John Adams is right and since he was right then what does that mean the future? Well, that depends lotta,

Prescott Ology. Doesn't it and never before you ask Metalogy, has always been the football you throw around and and and play games with and and stuff like that. Now the sudden it has. is real, meaning as to how you are going to move forward. a very challenging period is on. Without waiting for the right of ISA, serious guys here about a little worse, you gonna last Latin Davies's outside of our legal measures. I was thinking of you talk about how you can't get to other countries that need it. now to see bike and they might next year. All over the world to hear right arm out. I am. I now. My daughter would like that because she loves the oceans and anything you like that. But I wouldn't I'm not I'm not really that into that type of thing. You know my daughter devil. You bet

I don't want the look on the one guy is who and look. I don't look like hers. his daughter, educate yourself, even sorry, so alleys Bugsy, a roman Catholic controversy, she talking Ireland, Catholics zero lives popular, isn't it you make me rural alpine, really where the Muslims it s tick here, figure meeting they like, I was trying to watch them now, actually www muslim debates, which one I can remember, namely I remember the name as it was It was a most was like the Koran, something about the cream in that normally comes up. Yes, yes, if you wanna, if you want to see the basket address debate, but I would recommend to you is the debate that I did with the young man by knave, Abdullah kinda down

Australia and twenty eleven. Can God become man. That was the best way we have had so far because dollar is one of the only Muslims, and I know who read the forgotten trinity and then try, to present his objections in a way that Christians would understand. That is extremely unusual. Farmers on the deal, and so that made it a really really really good debate. But if you want to I think the one that was most amazing watch the beta idea, which should be early in the air. Morocco, acidic mosque in her asked me a South Africa and I stood where the EMA leads, the prayers proclaiming ass well. In the end, the camera pan around the room and the muscle we are sitting on the floor six feet in front of me and to be, able to talk about grace and atonements and my unworthiness Stephen be standing before them, and to do that in that context, in that place was just

one of them all the more amazing memory, is that I am very thankful that I have of being able to travel around the world an incredible opportunity, sir right up there with, September of twenty seventeen. You can like this one up when I preached in, Castle church in Wittenberg from Luther's pulpit, an amount of only two evangelicals. We know of that have preached from that pulpit. and Luther's buried in value and Luther who's. There was eight feet down below me, maybe about toffee down below me buried there in the in the Castle church funny thing is. When I first started there was a little bit about a buzz in the in the speaker in the sound system. and I job later it did quit, but I joke later that that was losers, spinning as grave because a Baptist was preaching,

believe you me he would have it. That was a real illustration of something it's real important me. I've taught church history, the first class I taught when I graduated seminary, search history and I've Tyler sense and an watch things. I've tried to teach people is you need to learn how to respect people in the past? Who probably We have burned you. because it's true is it because Luther would have driven me out of town Calvin would have had me imprisoned, driven towns willingly would have drowned me from the bridge in Zurich because he did numerous Anna and about us Yet I can respect all of those man I can I can look at the dialogue that lives willingly and Luther had Marbre and fifteen twenty nine and I I can appreciate both sides and you'll have to put things in contacts, otherwise, you'll, never you'll, never learned from the voices. The past, I think, is one of the things that has really raw The modern church of a lot of its depth is.

Evangelicals know nothing about their past than another, the new crises bills church- he has been built in history for two thousand years, and so if we can't listen to the voices, the past and learn from them than we were living in an echo chamber? And just what we're not the first Christians who will ever be persecuted, and there is much we can learn from those who came before us. Don't get me started on treacherous restart because you won't get over it and edgewise aren't going down that road. Nearly one hundred now did you the preacher, Wittenberg did you like. Sneak ended disclosure sulphur in other. Now, the way we did a an entire crews when I presented or reformation you're in the fell, but that all Michaels Alan from sovereign experiences has contact. Shall we say and he had arranged for our Martin Albert our model. two adds a breach there and then he arranged for me to breach there as well now

All I did a lecture on loser. I actually preacher. and an you fired on Youtube. I felt it was approved. Read that when I quoted loser that outcome loser in Germany, which idea ads, Oh, that was very, very range of all of the state. A lot of german I dont get to speak very often because I'll have anybody to speak. It wealth, but but I did that, and so we preach the whole. A whole sermon on crows than a changing asian life on its only half an hour, but my friend insisting on them. Still there and he was so easy. A question. That's gonna be impossible and not make controversial, Are you interview? Are you actually debated Muslims I'm curious Eu Brazil, as I assume that's only son interview, you tie my. How do you know you? Did you just go read what about

I just have set about these religions. You ve studied these other religions right, and so you see read. The Koran often see people, say that the terrorism in these sects of Muslims Islam come out and they say it's a natural outpouring of what's in the Koran than theirs. It's a region of peace. Those people are just crazies, and alike. Are you guys a bluff? Abortion clinics are whenever there you know they're, not there, now real Christians, and so what's your perspire having studied that in inner interacted. With many Muslims of you're on your own. You think I'll be here truth. The latter right, here's airs on The muslim sources are not concerned, with themselves, and that is why you have divisions amongst amongst Muslims, not just the Sunni. She a thing that really was a historical development took place later on, but even amongst the Sunnis who are looking at the Koran and then looking at

what are called the police. The studies are the stories and sayings of Mohammed and his companions were collected about two hundred thirty, three years after the death Mohammed, they had deep collections B, the lens through which you read the Koran and then Sharia LAW is determined by how you put all that stuff together, basically and the problem. there are numerous collections of studies, EL the Korean saw him? Muslim are the two most authoritative collections there, eight nine volumes respectively. I read all of my from an bikari? There are many Christians who have but but I have- and I can tell you right now- they are not. They do not reserve a consistent body of thought and unbelief, and so of different groups that interpret this. Why body of of material in different ways, and so you can have people who, in turn

this material in one way. That leads them to do the acts that have been done over the past fifteen twenty years. especially in regards to jihad. But then, if you look historically for the muslim civilization to come into existence? It had to find a way of controlling back and behaviour, and so should be developed to limit what could be done in regard to the expression of she hot, so the one side says you're ignoring the the element of our law over time. The other side is saying that law and develop an tradition has taken you away from the the solid, the early of followers of Mohammed Insult ACT, a number of Muslims interpret this. along the lines of the catholic protestant reformation, They would say that the the peaceful a tradition worst. are the Catholics and

these sallow fee hobby terrorists are the Protestants basically and they would say, just as some misunderstanding Koran only or Elise Koran and the early hoodies and getting rid of their traditions, they would parallel that to our situation historically in in Christianity, I think there's some real problems with it, application, but that's the mindset that that many Muslims develop in the west from they study our own history, few of them as theirs. That might be so so yeah ITALY, and the answer is not an easy answer to the question that you ask, because these sources and that and that's the big problem people say we could, LAW have a reformation, wake took place. There Christianity that leads to the final banishment of these things and the problem is sources that they have are not consistent enough to provide for a reformation, that's my that's my biggest concern and in that way

heavy dimly debating one of the austere scholars, one of the white steer scholars of nastier religion, freely scholars on that side of the debate there, the Catholics of rich birthday party, Protestants, yeah sort of, but but all my debates have been in western countries, and so they really strong folks like that generally wouldn't be english speakers and they probably would not. survive in English speaking countries. Drones would take them out something so early individual, I'm not debating anywhere near as it has a as a drone strike warrant out. I think that would apply to all damage. Might take me out to some

I ask questions. Now you get ass. Well, I would think I appreciate about your domain style and in any analysis you down the pod guest is that you do have the new odds and you tend to provide. like your opponent Lee version of their argument. Before you onto it. I watch too many debate, does either Babylon be it in the worst side Planet archives. village. I grew at an hour now specific gonna be winning back group illicit. I guess I'll be specific. I grew up, can can hope and now can remain, I grant watching videos you know, and so on. it is because, because once once it has sprung from jail, animals later the elderly

be lying to gale, rippling yourselves, to record videos whither and if you know who gale rippling aroused, I just discovered- I mean gale. Rippling here was the Babylon Bee. Before the Babylon me actually didn't intend to be, that was the merciless scary thing about you is original, and so, when he went a prisoner went straight to her place and starts recording King James. Only videos with her on this. Like, oh, my goodness, and I just found it somebody this past summer had taken the time to take some commentary that I made about her talking about the relationship between the king, James Version and the thinking of the titanic, and they I did all sorts of visual effects and sound effects at all. It was great I linked to it on twitter today it was really well done, but yeah. That was that's. What's that the king, James Controversy, was a volunteer com, one day answer. Theirs is really weird lady on the radio. You need that you need a tune in and hear what she sang and

I did since I ended up that the radio station said. Would you would you be willing to debate her because she says no one will debate her. I'm like oh good grief Day, and so I read her book, that entire new age, Bible versions, book and that result in the two half our programmes, which were the last timescale rippling or ever debated anyone on the radio, never say never did it again. She never did it again, so it was still available if anybody wants to get dig back into one thousand nine hundred and ninety four, that's one that was but an area that has only just my mother, King James. Only controversy has its it's interesting to me and then I respectfully. Like the desire to not have things change like That's a naturally has a natural thing for the Christian like it's a natural response for us is to be like wait there changing the Bible,

look at me, I'm a new version out, I think to us. We have this instinct to be, let go below the old ways better. I think that's a good instinct, but I kind of folly, part upon examination. What what? What's the real? What do you think the real like? Innovation is the foundation of like the king. James. Only people allow encounter well are the best, the best care, scenario is, a real belief that, modern translations are corrupting the church in that King James version is the word of God, and the of the word of God does not change at that's. That's the best case scenario that situation, but the fact that, is the king, James translators wooden be king James- only lasts entire translation procedure they were scholars, they understood they recognize Is the king. James, in fact was a new version of the English Bible, the English Bible, our existed,

He already had Tyndale work. In fact they basically borrowed. Eighty five percent of Tyndale great meets ass. The new testament translation in the kingdom, the bible- and they already had the bishops Bible and they had Wickliffe than they had all these other things, and and so they were making a revision and so the whole idea we can change anything just doesn't fly when you put it in the into context. It wasn't the first english translation, But they themselves talk about the need for revision and they knew therefore, we need to be for revision of their own translation, and so it was a venerable translation is the word of God it can be. It can be utilised today. The first time I read through the Bible, I read through the king James Version, the Bible Ass, a teenager, so There isn't any question along those lines, but let's face it. We live in in parliament. We live in a day of social media. We live in a day when attacks upon the scripture are all over the place and of

Austell Georgia. Christians do not know where the Bible came from. They think that it came down from Heaven with the leather cover and thumb index finger, and it did not end so when you encounter people that can demonstrate that it didn't, and they point you two major actual variance. They point you too, the longer any remark. Twelve versus Denmark Data that are not earliest manuscript of mark, they point you two of course the favorite story in the gospel of John, that actually isn't. In the gospel of John John seven hundred and fifty three eight hundred and eleven, the woman, adultery and point. That doesn't appear and so money most unreliable manuscripts that we have in the history. The new testament Codex bears a kind of regions as in the fifth century. That's where a first appears they take you to those and if you ve not discuss those things in the context of faith in your church than your blood. You dont, you don't know how to respond to the US. You don't understand these things and if you do

evangelism to Muslims, for example, their constantly raising all of these issues. They well know where the actual answer in and things like that, and so I have years, been trying to tell people that, while the greatest guess we can give to our young people before we send them off university is to teach them the found. asian of why we can believe in the reliability of the transmitter and the taxes scripture over time. King James only as fundamentally says ignore that stick your head in the sand take this! their standard and don't even think about its history, don't even think about where it came from. Don't think of, any of the manuscripts and have been discovered. Sense then sense that time which include Papyron. They take us back closer to the originals in the new testament than any other work of antiquity. We have been given a treasure trove information and their base, the saying ignore all that and we can't it has been given to us by God. We can't do that self. There are lots of problem

the king James, only ISM, but that's it. The real issue to me. Is it fundamentally destroys any possibility of doing meaningful, apologetically which is what we need to be doing in the timeframe which we have been called to be faithful. What's the absolute wacky King James only argument you ever encounter. oh wow, that's where the gale rippling your stuff go! Rippling, your stuff, that there is a call to King James, only ism that that really is beyond all rationality and when, when When you can listen, I know if you ve ever heard it, but if you, if you listen to the cliff, I play many times of girl, rippling her and the sinking of the titanic in it, and that there is six small slits that son the Titanic, and there was from the White STAR Line and the way

star and eyes. Fourteen twelve and the new translations again Ivy says that that's Jesus rather than Lucifer and and errors, sixty four thousand words taken other than I ve in any she puts all together, make six six six at it's just you sit there listening to it, just going, oh, my goodness: how in the world can someone come up with this kind of stuff or even her? plastic algebra Juno her acrostic algebra. I remember from the book I think, but my hands or where you take any S, XVII, plus an ivy, and then you youtube you you, and she said God revealed a story about away three key question: it and a new subtract out the common letters and what's left over is Syn. With its way, and so I ask you two questions on the radio programme. I said first, while where did you get acrostic algae

and she said the Lord reveal the timid and, I said ever else in your bible. You called it the any sb numerically standard Bible which sets its official designation, but only for that one. Then you called it any as the because without the v it doesn't work that logic. Algebra doesn't give you sin. It would give you some been, which isn't really do much of an online. And so on, and so her answer will her answer. Honestly, you can listen to program or answer was that's what the Lord calls it. The annex XVII, whereas air miles calls it the any as b and that's why acrostic algebra works and there is no reasoning with with anything like that. You you'd Uganda consumer, do message how do you? I don't think he had you, I mean what buncher she would have included it in their someplace. I mean he's a whole book about me and she

of all the EU would love this because she made of all these limerick in rhymes, stop based on white, and is it this is great. It says it is awesome. She's she's, a mouse she's now so wind, when President Biden throws you in the dialogue with and you're allowed to bring one Bible translation with you, one english viable translation, which one do you bring Well, I have to nineteen, seventy seven any as bees, then rebound by Geoffrey Rise of post animals, LUX Bible, reminding you seen She already binds. You know they're they're there. The cats me also. I grab one of my any as bees if I could only bring one english translation but I'd rather bring my nephew Allen. Twenty Eightth addition that he did for me because then we can make all sorts of english translations from that, so as to better waited a sorrows. Train Google to find that book and find a James White Limerick,

when I try and review is called blot, blind, blue and leaders of the blind or something like that. I've got at the office Africa, but it was but yeah it was some. It was great if right hours, it very, very talented, will well we learn where we go from here. I thought you ok let me move on from Linux, so I d, like you like, cut out the site part? Snow? Lay right. It's not it's part of the charm all guide book. I fear we interviewed a girl last week in people's it. Did you ever talk to a girl before, oh, by the way, how much we interviewed when we interviewed Doug Wilson, we attracted it was like turning on em off. I am thing and it was just like so are we gonna get that

Here, like what we really are usually more problematic. Our dog well send arrangement syndrome is, is even worse and James Light Derangement syndrome I dont get IDA, I've got I've, got people like that, but Doug has legions and So he and I have been doing a theory- called the sweater vast dialogues. We disregard another one couple days ago should shouldn't come. This week I didn't see it, but maybe I'll come out today, our region my Christmas and stuff like that. So yeah you'll get some of that, but it all it won't be nearly as bad as another diagnosing star. So yards, that's good. Ass. I work. Good euphoria, belgian, I didn't know you were asking about those you wanna make sure you sound and anyone who is not at all. You know anyone who now I don't even have never cowden, but Ebay is very happy with me that's really enemy me all this

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You have my best selling books sitting there in front of me. I wonder if you can guess which monitors scripture alone, because, whenever Christian needs Noma the crime near here I got a few more books to Roma gathering, I know it's a king, James, only controversy, and the reason for that is primarily because its use is a textbook these people that actual criticism and things like that so has been used in school. the cemeteries and stuff. Since came out in what nineteen ninety five. Ninety five, So that's why bustling about, but what's interesting as there is no way on gods greener. If you could know my second best selling, because you don't have it there, and I bet you ve never heard of it, they ve. Never you book of golf poetry. Well that one that one is known to me and no one else is not at all now nice, it's

about called grieving our path back to peace, and you never heard of it. It's us, a little book on the subject of greeting. I was a hospital chaplain for a number of years at a major hospital in Phoenix area, and I had to do loss grief, Greece, support as well That work is a hard work. I did. I would much rather debate Muslims at a mosque in South Africa than to walk into someone's room at a hospital and and I'm a Scotsman for crying out loud. How am I supposed to be friendly in I'll bet? You do here and as best we can, we can. We can pull off, and so I was very, very hard work, but I wrote it an acquaintance of mines, twenty nine day old grand daughter died, when her mom, had an epileptic seizure rolled over honour and suffocated her and I went to the funeral and and afterwards I decide sat down. I just cleared everything off my desk.

everything I learn about, loss and grief, and things like that for this acquaintance of mine that turned into a small book which like us as my second best selling book, they were passing that book out by the carton to the first responders on eighteen September in New York City, who We're working at the sight of the twin towers and so thy sale of this, because Ah reforms. Geology is what was behind that too because when I first started what and when I first got the job to work at the possibly workers, a family in the ministry without making enough for us to even eat. When I took them, job and I knew, as can be having to talk with deals. People about death a bunch of books on the subject and they all were written.

Manon Reform perspective were basically saying: God really didn't having to do with the loss of your loved ones. But he'll help me out now, and I was I can't do this. I can't I can't that's. I can't talk to people that way and so I really had to struggle with. Is God does God have a sovereign decree? Is there such a thing as as meaningless evil in the world, Is there a sovereign decree? Is God big enough to answer for everything and I, it s really. What's behind Bhopal, says aromas three. When he talks about the justification of God and and things like that, sell reform. Theology, isn't just something out here that I debate about knowledge I've been preaching it, but I've been in the past role applying it for for many many years now, so important along those lines. When people say I love your politics or am I just ignore all your Calvinism icicle? How? Because all

my apologetic work when I, when I debate Roman Catholics, I'm debating Missouri Form theologian went on presenting the gospel of Muslims and presenting is reform theologian at its it. It's the founding for everything, asylum Oh how, in scripture alone my view, scripture is consistent, led the way that the reformers understood it and I think, going back well before them and sell it. in spite of everything so It's uh. It's important, really really important. One hang up on it with Armenians is gonna. What you're talking about that it needs. it makes us robots. Calvinism makes a robot a romance and it makes God the author of. Well then said the others no way around that, if God decrees everything then he has decreed evil. For me, I kind of None of the structure in the scripture just says it's archologist, accepting just like love. It says he sovereign and I a kind of learning race that tension between your goddamn

doing things, and yet there is evil, and I I really feel the need to respond to that from a philosophical perspective, because I I just go back to the scripture but I only you tend to think through these things, much more deeply. So well, what does your response to that kind of an argument will actually my initial response. If the person flying do claims to be a question is to go to scripture, I mean I mean I unreformed not because a philosophical considerations, but because the scripture considerations of philosophy flows in that, but there are three. structure that I just didn't leave. I got you we'll have then go through the day, but I I guess you just that his brothers dances Jappy. Fifty I go through as a chapter ten and its use of the Assyrians to punish Israel in what he says about than punishing the Assyrians for punishing Israel, and then I go to Stop before I go to the early church and the prayer of the early church, and that is why

The apostles were threatened beaten than threaten when the church prayed and they talked about the crucifixion. They talked about Aaron Pontius Pilate and the Jews gather together against your wholly servan Jesus, to do what your hand and your will destined to occur so here the greatest act of evil in human history the Chris eviction of the seller, son of God, the only innocent person to Edward I, the greatest active evil You have differing motivations on the part of each of the individual, so so Harrods motivations are different and pilots different than the jewish people different than the roman soldiers. They all have different motivations, but they all play a role in bringing about what God determined to happen at that point at that time in that way, including even the acts of Judas all of these, these are part of prophetically, inspired scripture and yet the early Dark says, that is what God, please

destined and willed to take place and so whatever you do, you have to recognize that what what Harry? the central. What pilot did was simple, what the jewish leaders did, which was in fact what the roman soldiers did with central and yet God predestined to occur, and it was the greatest act of good in all of creation. It brought about redemption it'll, bring about. In the end the fundamental glorification Priam got so whatever you, Do you ve got to recognise that there is a reality. That is absolute sovereign decree and that event in time are real. Jesus did not become upon when you took on human flesh, he didn't. I time was real and meaningful and we held accountable by God for doing what we desire in our hearts and that scriptural teach

You ve got to deal with it and once you deny it, you end up having serious problems all across the board when it comes to the theology are what is taught in scripture regarding this: small sin punishment and everything else. So I got a sculpture fur, You know if we want to talk about primary and secondary causes. can we go and all that type of stuff, but it needs to have a biblical foundation and if the person I'm talking to his really committed scripture, then that's why I'm gonna go there. First. we don't know communism versus Arminianism, but are there like actual like five point Armenians out there today, because it must also be will say there are many and it's like they believe in you know. Some kind of one saved always save the perseverance of the saints but deal people that are like. A girl. Armenia are bordering on open, theism. Well, say it's not that we need to define that lotta people, nor the idea and one open these aims

I have often said that the only consistent Armenian isn't open, Thea isn't over the years. The personal believes that God, no, those all natural knowledge. That is what he's going to do. What's gonna happen in its creation in the sense of earthquakes fires whatever, but he does I know what free creatures will choose to do so, if you guys are getting ready to have lunch after this, he doesn't know what you're gonna have relaunched chicken gas in life. What the circumstances are and what you're normative things are, but look. Sometimes people do weird things and so Oh, he doesn't know what free creatures will do so when he created he did not know that you would exist because you are the result of hundreds of thousands of free, will choice since by generations and generations before you answer, I have said that the only consistent armenian position, because

if you say that God does know the identity of the elect from eternity pass. Then I really think the armenian position falls apart. The simple for knowledge, you just simply doesn't work and So it really is an issue of how does God no the future. Do you confess tat, God has knowledge of the future and isn't what becomes a scary because Arminianism then undoes undercut the foundation for, for example, messianic prophecy, because every sciatic prophecy again is the result of numerous people doing certain things: Freewill Joyce, it's a tens of thousands of them. If you can, office. I want that is its either God looking down the corridors of time and just guessing correctly and doing this passively or there is Sovereign decree involved, and that really is that really does become the issue but there are five four and you bet there are, and

that goes straight into full on plagiarism, together with you, and so I have my my my blessedly inconsistent armenian brothers and sisters in Christ, lot of people pick on me for having great relationship with Michael Brown, for example. He and I debated these issues, but we do sellers as brothers. There are certain reforms. I wouldn't do that, but I think that a major mistake on their part, it can be done in a proper way, a candidate and respectful way, and it needs to be done that that debate needs to be done in used to backup define any terms even now but the Armenians have a flower. The idea behind the other day, it's called a daisy, he loves me realize we know he lay there ready. I didn't make

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