In episode twenty-six of The Babylon Bee podcast, editor-in-chief Kyle Mann and creative director Ethan Nicolle talk to Mike Adams who is a professor at UNC-Wilmington, a TownHall.com columnist, and a speaker on college campuses on first amendment issues and abortion. They talk about how he won his federal case against the university on free speech grounds, why college campuses are even crazier than you think, and how the bill of rights was produced by Hitler.
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Introduction - Kyle and Ethan welcome everybody into the Christmas season, unless you are a grumpy Presbyterian or something, with a discussion about Christmas traditions like seeing lights with the family, drinking hot cocoa, and watching sappy movies that make you cry.
Story 1 - Narwhal Tusk Surrender Bins Installed Throughout The UK
Story 2 - New Greta On The Shelf Doll Will Track Your Climate Sins
Story 3 - Judge Grants IPad Sole Custody Of Young Boy It Raised In Parents' Absence
Interview - Mike Adams
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interview with MIKE Adams, because we were finishing our trifecta waited Scott direction. We need Scott Atoms and our doing MIKE atoms. Do we didn't have somebody Scott? We dynamic way with less names got, do not yet well. How do we need a Scott and then we need a mindless about Michael Scott Meagre and then we need another, dare like a derricks, maybe a dare
Scott, if anybody knows an atom Derek some recent like that, but MIKE Adams is a professor at you and see Wilmington
and he won a first amid a look of a big first amendment case yeah having to do with freedom of speech in such he had the unfortunate experience of being a college professor on a campus and and then he ever eat converted he was use all EC left wing and everything you supposed to be an unlucky suddenly converted to Christianity and became more conservative bob, and I get it I was one goes without saying, goes out saying, and I am not cause my trouble. So if I want that and without lie lost,
we'll get we'll get to that the first. So red bears so worried for weeks.
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Just a few days ago and if you told me they call the big hit article that you're going to put up on Monday is going to be about narwhal tusk, surrender, Vince and you're like what-
together yeah there was a there was a terrorist attack on the London Bridge, which is in London, London. Yet- and I thank you for the vat Jack
and there was an islamic terrorist last year, religious scholar, and I guess he was trying to go on a stabbing spree in these people chart he killed. He did kill a couple people and these people charged up. There's a polish immigrant that charged up music to her, while tusk, amazing, the like subdue him and they waited.
We told Emma, I guess they had a hanging up as liquor decoration in a restaurant or something he used
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so in its away like a whale? Is a women rarely that task as a tooth would make no sense to me.
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It's crazy everything. Every time I see. I know it's a different culture. Maybe we just don't get it, but there's like there are these police accounts on twitter. Then you know the official twitter account
I don't know name of naval british Sounding town,
Winchester Shire, Yorks Villain T side were decide, that's because of tea with tee out their Tis Dale. Ok, so anyway, so, like you know, the police of Eads Winchester, Shire and end are like you to look at all these sharp objects. We just confiscated in it and sweep we'll take a picture of like an ordinary pair of household civil right. All state
screw driver. It's like this. What what what and I can't believe it's not parity item in the trunk it out as real as pared down when I went there are member them having there's people having conversations about knife islands and the Swedes weird just kind of just the casino not used hearing people. Talking Malik there's been a rash of nice violence. Lately, I guess it's because differently against we have. We have the best violence, maybe ever weaker we're top where the top of the violence food chain guns skinned,
anyway, so I was rolling paint with yet another knives than what the next violence rolling pin violence. Yet another door, cooking, utensils, yeah Franklin, handmaidens frame,
given this imagining a few years. All than ever gone. They have the fry. Fair rivers are having their food with one another for our vision, you don't need a knife. Rent is nothing beginning unite for will. Yes, you are evil child vegetables yeah. You can just the dusty tofu. That's a squishy reduced eat, squishy food. We grant all his name's, what's like any other ciphers stuff, how eventually everybody just eating liquor nutrition cube on a spaceship, yet they just aegis flip on your you on your Iphone Negus Bluetooth into the food. What slavery one to be steak and then use either demonstrated, approximates the taste of state. It's like that. Gum on Willie, walk at TAT changes rang a formula I was out with such accordingly like all its its biscuits and gravy, but who, once he biscuits and grave it as a texture of chewing gum. Our understand the shirts, like those jellybean said, are like
stake your big anyone here. Popcorn, ok like popcorn when its crunchy, but if I want just the essence of popcorn and in its squishy being, I wonder how they do that because it's gotta be just random chemicals, yeah, someone just trying different chemicals or he was a space like zap ordinarily
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so anyway, Gretta will judge you and she would call your stocking but then took a matter you if you burn it, because it's a fossil fuel right to younger of creation is think it's fossil fuel. I hardly think it is
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to the gallery loaded with eight other corroded, Amazon or value. I panther other parents have those ones that, like the giant thing that they cannot destroy the destructible case throat across the room in Calvin my two euros at the age of that's heal. This literally do that rural regions thrown across the room. He has the big thick pink one. I used to judged parents that would have the universe kid sitting in front of the tv or whatever other time. There was a really smartphones, but now it's like you know what son here yeah, given the device have less yak and now it's like. I know what now watch tv you don't need to write your brains on you to watch an actual tv show that you feel like you're doing apparent as you like no watchword, some with a story. You watch the sopranos what breaking bad? What bring that certainly need to learn all about drug culture well
Radiatore interview I'll just meet you one more thing, I'm going to mention this with Seth before, but when he, when he was, is funny cuz. He pitched this idea when I was at his house and kids he's like here. You know you showed him the phone and they're just watching videos of like cgi spider man punching cgi hook for it's like Hulk and Spider man fight for two hours,
somebody's did is really lamely. Elegant, really bad, see, really bad
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Talk with MIKE Adams? Now, let's do it presenting an exclusive Babylon. We interfere. We are sitting here with MIKE Adams. I MIKE how you doing good our you, I'm doing fine
yeah. This is MIKE. I am what I love about. This is that first, we we record. We interviewed Scott Ericsson two weeks ago, and then we interviewed Scott Adams the next week
and now entering MIKE atoms
just need a MIKE. We just need a MIKE derricks and next week, and then
let's keep it going. Adamson got Adam Scott,
That's a real name, raising the road like an accurate or some other person. We know my gallowses real person cause he's sitting re earlier and what and he's like? What is? How does it really is? In a sense, real names, so MIKE is a professor at you in Sea, Wilmington
and he is
Pro life speaker and
First amendment advocate is an accurate yeah. That's accurate news not fail
yeah and days a town hall columnist any rights for daily wire from time to time
and so is basically a Nazi, if not
problematic. Nazi adjacent outright, maybe we can use Ryan as it is the first all right now is that it is really earthy. First amendment is
it is as if the dog was alone. You say first member you're, one of those one of those guys. First, amendment guy he's currently holding his right arm up at about of liberty. I've degree angle once an Ex second amendment, and then you can high regard amendment insisted that the real slippery slope once you start so we
We're chickened out your articles on town Hall, your recent ones, all my good man you're. Very you talk about guns, a lot that that was just you know. Just a recent thing by Rico.
Don't try to distance. You haven't. You are a pro life speaker years, talking about shoot, no time,
yeah and so we're we're. GonNa Wonderingly is some
about to go down that we need to know what kind of Zoran Apocalypse it's like when the properest on actually go on, moved in the hills, and you think I d say anything: it is good that we could you define about. To tell you mean in your lived their people
living in the hills and are planning to
oh, yes, I was about to go down but
you were at the forefront of the free speech battle right here on the campus you get Yankee Get picketed goes
natural of your story and we want to hear we think you ve got a conversion story out on urgency. We set out in the left right, it's kind of interesting. You know the year before I started at USC, Wilmington and ninety ninety three man, my dad, was freaking out some leftist and he's a conservative from Birmingham Alabama, and all this in
and he said all of you really liberal. You know you read the other side and I sat down and read a book
dynastic Sousa, called illiberal education, and that was the year before I finish graduate school and I just had the sense that somethin kind of screwy was brewing on the college campus.
And I read some of his stuff about political correctness. Anna in camp is speed
you didn't do often read the work of felons,
they did not see any fellows. Yes, I do, but I knew something was kind of screwed up about. You know the campus and I got there and
sure enough. You know I found we had speech codes in place and you know I cannot felt like there
something there was an undercurrent there that that
the diversity movement was going in a direction that we can be problematic at some point, one a problem for me because I was a leftist and an atheist.
Working with a bunch of marxist feminine
Stan Sociology Criminology Department and then
years later. You know, after that I converted- and you know it's kind of was,
two phases. I converted a theism in ninety six. I had something to do with some human rights work I was doing in South America and I kind of arrived at the conclusion. I had a really stupid.
View that you know you ought not to judge the cultures by the standards of your own and I'm I'm sitting there. You know going into prisons and interviewing prisoners were their torturing them. Basically, you know and shocking confessions out
and stuff like that, and so I got shaken out of my stupid relative
world's you in about one thousand nine hundred and ninety six, but I didn't become a Christian until about three and a half years after that I was,
revealing a mentally retarded murderer and rapist on death row and he was about to be executed and the guy had iq. Fifty three
and in that conversation he read John three hundred and sixteen to me- and I thought this is kind of embarrassing. You know this guy had learned how to read and write, and he actually read the Bible, and I was a tenured professor who
considered himself to be educated and I'd actually never read the Bible, so I actually went through this thing in two thousand and sitting down and read the Bible in about half a dozen apologetic and converted. That's when
things started to change shit that point after a first year in a book by Phelan, and then you said the elder refers in that. You know that it's interesting what you'll find coming together, but really after the conversion of Christianity, then it was kind of you know that the reaction from the colleagues was a little bit strange.
And then I was quite a leper yet, but the nine eleven happens and if you were painted,
attention at all to the news. Then you know it wasn't just that we had all these. You know foreign affairs issues to deal with the campuses we're going crazy. I mean we had just deceased expire
ocean and free speech controversies, and I was one of them.
Very simple situation where a college student who happen to be a marxist who had written to me- and I think it is like twenty one other people- she basically blamed the attacks on a mirror.
By saying it was Marcus fault? It was America's foreign policy that produce this situation, and I just rode back to a price
ITALY and it'll just a stupid thing to right. Just a few days after nine eleven people were ticked, yeah, Minos,
with the marxist blame America they take a week off out. You know, wait till the take up, couldn't rather wait until Manhattan, quick burning. You know just settle down with that, and I had friends who were missing at that point. It was for
days after nine eleven sire,
your back and I didn't say, you're an idiot. I said I didn't attack her personally, I said I think your speech is bigoted an unintelligent and immature bought. I pointed out it was constitutional,
protected, no big deal right except her. Mother is a college administrator, and she
She does either what any good marxist feminist will do when you know her feet-
Things are heard and she calls or mommy hook basically, and she tries to sick the Unity Wilmington administration on me
and a mom is very level headed the rat irrational, very erratic. I assume now, but it was really
just think as they did find an email use policy that said you're not allowed to birth rate people over email. You know
terminate them or make them feel uncomfortable anyway. So there you go the campus speech code and so what
happened. Was they call me on the phone and said we're gonna have to dig through your email account
and see whether you said any those nasty things about her to other people?
and I said no You'Re- not You'Re- not going to do that, because we have actually have a statutory right to privacy even associated with our own email use with the campus computers and
they were violating their own state public records gauze and
I got on the phone call the foundation for individual rights in education in Philadelphia in those those guys are incredible.
God above him, because it's one of the rare places where you have Jews and Muslims, and Christians and Democrats and Republicans all working together for the purpose of advancing
speech and they got a whole
my case and they
John LEO of? U S, news a war report into a turn to write about it,
and he interviewed the school and me and said we didn't read any busy mouths, and
actually deny doing it
was awesome. He just didn't believe him and he wrote about it and Sean Hannity read his article and calls me on the phone at the office and said. Would you like to go on Fox news? I set out this skit pretty and
I think that is the answer.
Western, yes or no answer the question yes or no combs little alive back then me was nice. It was weird and because I go on the air and Combs is on my side. Do only this is a
Show man I wouldn't expect, and both sides were supporting me, but then
bar, saw this segment and he picked it up and just the whole controversy went crazy.
That just all led to me, Rhine, the town hall, call them and
it is like you step out. New challenge with the universities are doing is totally crazy and
You do, a national tv appearance and all of a sudden, you start getting emails like that exact same thing happened on this camp is in you realize it's not just
A few ivy league, crazy schools, wessling schools out there by
stretch of the imagination, I mean it is public universities in the heartland in the south in the MID west.
Everywhere and even at the junior college level
where these administrators are just enforcing these wildly overly broad and unconstitutional speech codes and
to that kind of how that unfolded? And you know, thank God, omit the Yeahs Patrick COIL
America's foundation and I think I've spoken about a hundred college campuses in the last fifteen years. Kind of trying to push back and do something about this,
and what's really weird, is over the last fifteen years I felt like that went really well for about ten years.
And then this weird thing that's happened. It has only been over the course of I would say about the last four years or so.
Where you see in droves, the students pushing you back and trumps fall well,
You know what I noticed the election in Japan. We can redeem opening the massive melt down right, massive emotional melt down. My colleagues
dressed in black at work the day for the election ripe.
But I saw it about a year before that you ve gotta
member. What the meltdown that occurred at Miss Zoom. When the meltdown that
Yale over the Halloween com.
Jim in earlier that was in the fall
twenty fifteen. So
at some point. You know that the students decided you now. I've got a choice between being free and being comfortable. I'd rather be comfortable. You can't be both, you know,
If we were to design a safe space for you, what kind of things would we
space, what I mean you're, like a gun magazines, hanging tigers
I guess I'm one of the rare people who actually just I enjoy the back and forth the discomfort and the tension that supposed to occur in a college campuses. But but that's that's a thing of the past.
So you know really it's it's classical. Liberalism is sort of fading into the background and being replaced with something else that you know there. They want it that many of them one call themselves liberals, but it's not what it is. This progressive leftist movement is just kind of illiberal to its core rearing and yeah. It's a big deal casino. I can sit here and talk and ride and speak about the craziness that goes on in college campus, but it doesn't stay on. The college
you know it's it's. The wacky is craziest thing that you see happening. There will become the norm in the society in twenty years, no sound,
you in it of winning your court case. Oh yeah,
in haste to say, remain, deserves a day and coordinate. Now I say decade in court
because that was just ridiculous in our we, we had to go on
for seven and a half years and I'm lucky. I had the eighty F run representing me and David French, who
jobs, better save the National review he recently left. There have been he's incredible. First, amendment attorney, and I mean we just had to fight for years to get just some kind of a
representation in front of a jury just to get past all the legal wrangling, and it was
such a weird case, because it was so clear the universe, getting fantastic teaching, evaluations and peer evaluations. You know when I went up for ten year and then the conversion happens to steer to after that, and you ve got these great teaching, evaluations and Allison. Colleagues, I tat
I mean I met the add. I convert I'm at the absolute bottom in terms of a young, become pro openly pro life, for example, and there's just this huge divergence.
And it's kind of crazy. You know I'd I'd want to teaching wards before the conversion I university wide professor of the year and then in two thousand six. I go for promotion of old professor and the marxist Feminist Chair, who was responsible for riding the letter in communicating to me what happened. She says your deficient in all three areas. I mean it just didn't pass the
straight face tat your deficient in every way, including teaching and damn you know. So I am real appreciative. The atm was there, I kind of you to foot the bill, the dude
My own yeah, so we get into it and we
you know, will just go in and go into discovery and
find them saying you know creepy inappropriate viewpoint, discriminatory saying
in their emails, and you know in the deliberation process and will get in there and will expose that anatomy,
end of it. Well, that's not quite the right went, it was just bizarre. You know
been accusing the university of in my columns of being just anti free speech
for many years and then all of a sudden when it got down to
recovery in the evidence came out. The university comes back and said: well, you know his columns and his speeches, and all that was is clearly protected, was clearly protected by the first amendment, but when he mentioned them on his promotion application.
They ve lost all first demand that protection submitted this weird theory that you can engage in free speech and its protected, but then speak about your free speech, think about it and then it
retroactively loses its first, a member protection. I mean this is just to a crazy thing that they presented to the court and unfortunately, the judge bought it and
rose. My case out of court. We gotta go all the way up to the Fort Circuit in Richmond. To get this thing corrected and you don't think about it. It there
really arguing that you know they should be able to.
Engage in viewpoint, discrimination, their university- and you know it's as if
years, I've been saying you guys don't support free speech in their saying. You can't say that,
basically committed. Didn't am absolutely,
surreal, so we had to go through this and and has highway
you know. Finally, we win on on them.
Go grounds and we moved into this process, for the court tries to force us into settlement negotiations for a couple of years- and you know these public universities are just
their spending, your money, the taxpayer dollars they don't care at all and
they just go and they decide they're gonna insult me, and so that went on for a couple of years and finally, we get in front of a jury and
man you didn't front of, like normal people who are working
the university and they hear the evidence. It didn't take them two hours so
You know it's like. We have a seven, a half your case and the deliberation I time did. It was an hour fifty minutes they select the four person they order, pizza and eat it
deliberate on a seven and a half your case, unless one two hours and combat unanimous, he went out its extremely obvious there.
That they were trying to say we don't want any pro life conservative Christian to have the rank of old professor at a public university. So that was a crazy thing that consumed what
a third, my careers of professor litigation, Vicki again tents, a large
of your life over have yeah. I love like day.
Like this is no self reflection that whole idea that they would say you can't say that, where against free speech like that,
we're gonna, not allow you to say that I do not see the
like did anybody stepped back and say make men put, maybe we're the bad guys. There was no none of its normal, though on a camp, as you know, there have been. You know there have been cases have been involved in working with students who were fighting against crazy policies like these speech zones. You know where the
units are told? Oh, if you want to express your point of view, you ve gotta, go through a permitting process. In on their side,
tiny area on the camp, is you have to stand within this little area?
less than the size of a football field lettering. One percent of the cabinet exist smoking section I so far you have these gives it euins e g. Many years ago I was helping them, you know
related good way to protest and, I said, will just go in without a permit, an
no tell the administration and the cops and everything that you're gonna be there and just wilfully violate this thing? To turn your court channel-
right. So they decide this wasn't. My idea was their idea that their son,
their libertarians and so therefore enough, but they had until we jangling they asian, they got off their couch. Their designs dead, said you in Fiji hates free speech
so they're stepping out and the students are ticketed. You know for a while
in this respect, compact in their body, and you know that they begin to convene the little trials. You know the expulsion hearings and all this before it all hits interrupted and
Once again you hate free speech, not you can't say that you ve got. It just happens all the time. It's fantastic is the perfect bait,
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so the judgment was that you got a flower bed of money and I didn't I
fifty granted back pay my authorities. Then they got that the judgment was seven hundred ten thousand hours and legal fees. So so how?
how many Johns did you buy. I you know I I actually the main expenditure was guitars. I did by complications, but I bought a couple guitars and hung.
On the wall in my house, and I actually yeah. I named them after a couple. The defendants
That's rosemary. That's Kimberly their hanging right there. In the affirmative, spartan verily,
they really well you to do so. What kind of crews
In music, do you play on your coffee west? The whole thing?
Only his own stuff, now
I actually used to be back in the in the heathen days, so I guess I supported myself in graduate school playing music. So that was the job that I had and it was not the christian music or a Chris,
style of life. Finally, deregulated imagination and erratic, not quite now-
acoustic. We played the drunken college, kids all the time and and actually made a lot of cash money
so in a report and all of it
to the iron five just to clarify
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Past is ill striper or Carmen Lot allege Dublin illegible.
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little garments whose Carmen religion
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created by winding White Christian, wrapper a white Christian Wrapper way.
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and anyway, I do so. Anyway. Hang you that's a fork in the road right so that the natural Ding Dong about after Carmen is pro life active is now so you do a lot of pro life speeches
where do you see that discussion going when you see that go on in our country, random? It's it's interesting
the political realm you know it's as if we were
Dividing initiatives reaction in both directions. Just in recent months, it's been pretty amazing. It's like a lot line,
being drawn in the sand, and you have all the states, of course, in many
in the south and in the midwest that one, you know trigger challenged. Rovers is weighed upon the other side, just dig in an states like New York Goin in exactly the opposite direction. You know that's where you eat you sort of look
the fracturing of this country, you known to be serious for a moment it. It's like you, you, you wonder in the long term how these different states, with completely different values, are going to function in the same report,
look you know it's! It's really amazing! It's like the pro life movement, politically speaking right now. It really draws out. You know just the deep divisions in this country and I started off as approach choice. Her
Obviously, and you know, thank God, I was fortunate enough to have a good family friend
two chambers, my mother's best friend, when she was alive very adamantly pro life just got in touch with me in
had a short discussion with me about the basic issue. You know the question of when life begin
and and before I had let go of any you left wing position that I had. I actually sort of began to look at that and the science behind what was going on, and that was my first flip on a political issue from the left wing position to the more concerned
position was becoming pro life and over the years I had no intention of ever going out there and actually being a pro life speaker. You know when I started writing the columns and doing things out there in public. It was all this first amendment advocacy and then
the other side, just kind of started to get really brace- and I remember you guys probably remember this- was around two thousand and four one plan. Parenthood decides they can start printing the I had an abortion t shirts in start selling them to college students. It's like okay
I'm never gonna. Shame a woman who has had an abortion- and I know so many women who have had them and deeply regretted them. But this idea that you're gonna boast about
yeah and put it on a t, shirt on a college campuses? I am wrote a column about that in all of a sudden, the phone rings and its, I think, was Michigan right to life said. Would you like to do you know one of our pro Life bank, which and I started doing them and eventually met Scott Collusion door? Who I think has probably
the greatest pro life biologist out there. He is just really nailed the philosophical and scientific aspects of the of of the pro life argument, and I got to be friends with him and started
kind of do some of these apologetically lectures at various places, including college camp
then. You know in recent years started to debate in a largely it's been just a response
to the brazenness of the
choice position. You know, debated Doktor Willie Parker last year, the Christian abortionist, whose
that he is doing God's will and in
look, he said he'd Heap Don ten thousand abortions. He said he could do as many
thirty in a day- and you know he was called to do dad and suggested it was the parable of the good Samaritan
That led him to do that. It wants a logic of my how's that doing guns Wharton what what's your legs
put on your Willie hat. He wasn't
Thinking at all, of course, about coming to the aid of the unborn, it's the idea that there's this distressed woman who can't handle you know the socio economic hardship of having a child he's gonna, be the provider,
they are increasingly in our society were heaven. You know pro lifers are shutting down.
Abortion mills, and you know he wrote his book. You know there's only one abortion clinic now in the state of Mississippi, and you know I've got to get out there for you. If no one else does this
You know. If I don't do this, no one else will do it, and so it's kind of interesting, it's just absolutely clueless. Just like every one of the pro choice, movement about the idea of another human being and fall
and so I see this brazenness. You know- and I think you know the first thing. The pops up in my mind is that the church must not be done a very good job of addressing this issue. If people are so brazen,
we going out there and saying I'm doing this in the name of God. You know he walked into the abortion clinic and he prays with the women and joined hands with him and he refers to it as a ministry and it's
just absolutely surreal, but you know you're every now and then I just find that unite. I never intended to be a pro life speaker, an advocate, but you just see stuff like that and there's something
they just clicks within you where you say someone has to respond.
These babies would have been poor, so there you go
Certain values were born into poverty and its Jonathan left all over again. How will we get a cure? China, poverty candidate, prevail. All the poor children
sample pamby poor because they go only sicker would want children to be poor
So what do you want? Children are before my dear.
The sound you can do. I'm just gonna go for making a sense. We are we have indeed, how dare you where's? How dare you add area? We have a very good you guys ready. I wasn't ready for further there,
Is it we're never ready memoranda? I got frank laughing.
I think I'm at last how very firmly Lulli episode on your raced. How dare you know it's on their? How dare you there was there?
CS the window, the shift happen from so
legal and rare to like shall ear abortion celebrate good times. Abortion come on. You know, I guess a lot of it has to do with with technology
seriously this. As you know, this generation has been exposed, ultrasound technology, and back when I was in college, I mean people legitimate
we were persuaded were reasonably persuaded
when someone said. Oh, it's just a clump of cells. Yeah. You know it's an undifferentiated massive tissue backing.
Nineteen eighties, you know
one that I knew had actually seen ultrasound technology and I just think that
when the sides became undeniable. You know it really call their bluff and its force them to make very brazen philosophical claims. I really think it's just this first generation that we ve got where think about it all their entire lives. They ve grown up around ultrasound technology and absolutely no denying what's goin on site.
And that's shifted- argued Iraqis. I've found when we talked about this last absurd. I found that the argument that it's a human life doesn't go very far with.
Committed, abortionists write them. The right of the mother supersedes any definition of human Nancy RAM to different conversation, yeah yeah,
What will you know what happens? You know mean think about it. You ve got a basic syllogism. You know it's wrong to intentionally killers, innocent human bang. Abortion does in fact intentionally kill and innocent human being. Therefore,
wrong, and we can only spend so much time on that minor premise. Going every single textbook in the science of embryology out their says that life begins at conception and there is literally no lack of consent,
Is that all the measures it mostly? We would say things around cause. We say they're wrong. I mean that we can change that if we want, but they ve got a step back and there I have to say: well, it's not always wrong. Yan! That's! When you get into these strange bodily autonomy are.
Imagine they put into that category of its not wrong to kill people in war if it's a for a good cause or whatever like they think it the category,
they categorize it in that some of them with they accept that it's someone except the premises even
but it seems like many will, and then this, though attack they justify it.
I just looked the most shocking to me. I got to like if you could leave if I point at somebody admitted to human and you got them, but that's the thing that shocks me the most is: is there
plenty of people out there on that side. That completely admits human and say it's fine. No, I'm happy Victoria, fine with it there comfortable
bizarre in every argument that they make philosophically threatens the born
and I was just having this conversation the other day where someone you know he had placed all of his faith in the idea that they can feel it. You know the unborn can't feel it there. There is a lack of consciousness and boom as soon as I hit em with the question of whether rape is permissible as long as you sufficiently drug the woman before
I can't feel it and then, by whom it's like works now you know every argument out there. It's really interesting. It ultimately undermine human equality every single time they try. Moving to that philosophical realm,
all these topics always like it, comes down to a view, as it were a view of the world that either it's been given to us in the meaning, is in its and were finding the meaning or making the meaning ourselves to me. That's like the divide it like the heart.
Every transcendence sense and we need that is clear
You're going, I don't know I didn't. I didn't write. What a human is. I didn't write.
Where the where life means like it means something because it was written and I am finding it out and I respect that that's way different than going. You know I am I evolved from a mile,
of stuff in the sea, and I decide what ever it? What is it?
every life is? We did we decide what it is. You know it's just a different.
My view that a different foundation and that's one way,
Was I go?
Two sides there never gonna come together. It's it's just! You know. I actually had this conversation with no real Karachi a couple of years before he passed away. Great christian apologies to it, converted from Islam and tragically died of stomach cancer in just a couple of years ago, at the age of three
three, and here he was saying you know. Philosophically what do you think is the biggest threat out there and a college campuses? I said what is it still postmodernism and he shouldn't you know: you're, crazy, postmodernism out, that's waned and we cannot begin to argue back and forth about that and I was singing like the whole campus speech Code,
is an outgrowth of postmodernism. There is no truth when every out a truth, you put scare quotes around it, and so then what is free speech supposed to be about? Then? If there is no truth, will you're not gonna? Have a free and open market place of ideas? Were you try to converge on some truth? It's really out there you're worried about you in individuals. Don't have rights, groups have rights, and these groups haven't been able to participate
in defining the narrative, and so we ve gotta, somehow empower them in the way that we do. That is we selectively enforce these bans on offensive speech depending upon
who was saying the offensive thing: what group therein and what group is being offended. So that's the game that we begin to play an that's out at growth of of postmodernism will postmodernism plays, and all of this you know
comes to the question of what is the unborn when it comes to the whole Trans mania thing: that's going on right now it there's this idea that things don't have essences. You know that an entity can be divorced from biological reality, and you know that's just a thing that they're trying to do to that. They want to have the power to define the unborn, to define myself
I mean I mean it's, it's it's an elevation to God, game, that's being played in its being done in the name of postmodernism. I know nine out of ten of the conservatives who you talk to will say that socialism is the biggest problem on our college campuses that Marxism
now it's postmodernism dancing's idols urges outgrowths at all. They were late. Absolutely. I couldn't possibly agree more that the two world views are just ideologically
their cousins. I mean they're really wedded to one another. I mean you know the idea that there's two groups out there. You know the haves and the have nots and we have to empower the have nots.
You know that just really mirrors what I'm saying about the speech codes. Yet it's like the speakers and silenced groups out there. You know we ve got to have a power shift out there and it is dangerously political and dangerously on principle.
Because truth has taken a back seat in this entire process. I think it was in t write. That said, he called the transgender movement kind of aid
modern version of Gnosticism, where you have this secret, hidden knowledge somewhere, and you are the only one who knows this objective knowledge. You know you to simply like to speak it into existence. You know, I am really a
oak tree or whatever you know, there's no, there's no you're, not coming
the two? Your actual essence at all, it's just whatever spiritual realisation you can gain in so doing
this thing to me that that's now coming back and its behaviour, these cycles of these
wrong philosophies that keep
in view of the sun right right, you read in if you really want explore that
anti piracy, loveless body, we gotta get her on her. Oh shit
just she's, great and
so glad she's at age, be you and there on them,
and they're they're doing serious things there and a really like that. Their scholars there are writing books also for public consumption, and I I think Nancy is able to tap into an important culture,
topic and she's able to do it in a way that links it to Foss at the end of history as well. The history of the church, the history of rebellion against the church, it it all comes together, but the gnostic.
Important aright MIKE well, thanks for coming on as many great conversation
you want people to follow you on Twitter find any.
Where can I will find you? I have fun or ship you MIKE S. Adams is the twitter handle and got a public facebook page out there. So what I'll do is working on a free speech, column right now great, and I do a lot of that stuff and that pops,
upon my public facebook page and on Twitter. My columns,
town hall dot com, most often in sometimes on the daily wired outcome. So that's where to find me Naso sounds good
while he made some Carmen videos, you can. Why were you
Amazon knew better, so good, stuff, good stuff. Thank you.
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portion of the package, which is for our subscribers. We talk about lots of things it about the transgender,
you which that's salty parent, my kids,
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person is the one who the rise was out and out of was begotten from year to year. Trash talking you're me insulting day. What is
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you don't have any passion about it. It's over the way, you feel that Socrates, the planet, all sports, the title
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have some, but let's egress real hemisphere, some actual hit Blanca. Are these all because there are you to use your fill me in this? Isn't it
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I got a couple: people, email and SAM and say who's the guy in the Window- protection a lover, green taxes, certain you did read the book.
Yet that none of this is not funny
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when file on deaf ears. I don't get the logic there if I have to say that it isn't funny than
You wouldn't listen anyway, so I have to tell you why like so, we also have to ask why worried,
dumb to know why this is not funny.
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did you have a role in the mud prepared? That's like you can read it to a monster.
What do you have to road? Murderously you wanna, take less, was ok, reason, general message: you are really really are caps, trying to be funny like the onion
but sadly modern times defeat you and you sound. Like fear olds, you try to imitate the speech of their betters, unsuccessfully, in other words, not the music. He try.
No you're invisible sky God may be laughing. Who knows
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flower bed that was classic. I was beautiful right wealth,
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