President Trump’s sprawling surprise news conference and the view from Russia. Guests: Jim Rutenberg, the media columnist for The New York Times; Neil MacFarquhar, The Times’s Moscow bureau chief. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2m6gM0O.
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
From the New York Times I Michael Barbara. This is the data.
Today. First
Seventy seven minutes, amid intense scrutiny of his leadership and connections to Russia. President Trump turns the scrutiny back on the news media attacking its credibility and its judge during a remarkable news and the view from Russia why the government of Lattimer prudent mate relish all of this attention, no matter how good or bad it's Friday February. Seventeenth. I turn on the tv open the newspapers and though she stores of CHAOS Cas. Yet it is the exam
opposite. This administration is running like a fine tuned machine in me
stories. Trump sees a version of his presidency that he does not like. I mean it's story after story after story is bad. This week it's the story of his national security adviser, retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. He was forced to resign after reports that he misled. Vice president MIKE pants about a phone call with the russian ambassador to the United States, the press has become so dishonest
We don't talk about it. We are doing a tremendous disservice to the american people tremendous to service. We have to talk about it to find out what's going on, because the press honestly is out of control. The level of dishonesty is out of control that view of the press brings us and the rest of the media to the White House on Thursday afternoon, where President Trump is standing behind a protein.
An eastern this press conference was hastily called right. There was an hours notice, at least in terms of when the cable networks broke in, to say they are going to do this. Jim Rudin Burg is the media columnist at times and a former political reporter. This was rowed blocked across the networks, at least every time I checked every man,
Your network was shown this and that's a big deal, especially during the day there.
Are millions of Americans are home with the television on watching soaps watching Alan watching? What have you?
broke in, and he is talking to his people
so the listeners,
like a mental definition that they can use road blocking
What is it a roadblock,
is when the major broadcasts networks that still deliver more viewers and cable combined Waymore, just across the board, give the president their air. So it's
as powerful thing in any president's arsenal, even now in the age of the internet. So why call this press conference? Why use this power? At this precise moment,
so the news is sort of winning and Donald Trump mind right. It's breaking through
all the accusations heretofore about big news cannot stop the enough.
Terrible reality that his national,
security adviser had to resign under pressure. It was
the news media by the way that made that happen. It was a news media.
Reported it aggressively got out. So am I
I view he decides on and have a giant press commerce regained the leverage school them turn up
to eleven the volume on the vagueness
allegations and use them as per
because he knows, are stuck there sitting in front of him to be schooled, but flint resignation. That's the first place that report is in the room, go when Trump opens up for questions they want to know
what happened in fine person, and I asked for his resignation- he respectfully gave it what he did
wasn't wrong. What was wrong with the way that other people
including yourselves in this room, were given that information crystal.
Classified information. It was given a legally that's the real problem, I'm
really struck by the language that he doesn't think that Michael funded something wrong? What do we make of the fact that Donald Trump thinks that it's ok to have done what Michael Flynn dead?
I think he's always played by his own rules, the President Trump and he's always.
Really gotten away with it his one he won the election playing by the rules. This really was
First time he had taken a give in to the way things work in Washington write his guys in trouble had to cut him loose and
It's it's a loss which again, I think, is why he wanted to have this press conference to regain, in his mind the upper hand, against what he's is calling the opposition, the media,
snake.
This is an exchange he has with a reporter from CNN Jamak Asta, with whom the president has sparred many times
for I just see many many untruthful things and I'll tell you what else I see. I see tone in other words, tone
The tone is such hatred, I'm really not a bad person by the Y know, but the tone is such I do get good ratings. You have to admit that the tone is such hatred. When he talks about tone, do you feel
a shock of recognition, none here or at any particular organization, but could have, broadly speaking, the media and this president. At this moment there is a tone out there. It does get why he did
you watch CNN, sometimes and all the networks except for Fox, and you can notice- and it's like people living lighting, their hair on fire behind these tasks that
You know there's a counter argument that these are extraordinary times and their reacting to him lets us.
To the next part of the exchange that Jim Acosta of CNN had with President drop it so important to the public. Together those press depressed the public doesn't believe you PETE
anymore now, maybe I had something to do that. I don't know I'm innocent
again. Maybe I had something to do with that. I
I wanted to pause analyze move conference when I heard that cause that feels like
Incredibly, striking concession, hallucinating ya think
relies admitting that he played or war he he sang. I believe I may have play a role in helping to undermine the American.
Why do you think he would be acknowledging that right now? First of all, he's put it
out of work into it. So he's probably proud of that accomplishment
the fascinating variation. It's been talking point of his throughout the campaign and then, by the way he put so much work into it for moments like this one.
When he's in this is this is in Argo boy, a crisis moment for any White House so
This is a time, and you say, don't believe what your hearing on the news that we saw playing,
so this media back and forth. That is threading. This news governs it now
Truly leads to this conversation eventually about Russia and trot
was ass. This really pointed question: yes, Joe,
Can you see
no.
That's right
Annalise
really? Well,
leaks a real, either wondered wrote about him and reported a member. The leaks are real. You know what they said you sought and the leaks are absolutely real. The news is
fake, because so much of the news is fake. So one thing that I felt it was very
what to do- and I hope we can correct
nobody. I have more respect for what may be a little bit, but then reporters and good report is very important to me,
and especially in this position, is very important. I dont mind bad stores. I can hear
a bad story better than anybody as long as it's true. So what is he doing here?
if the leak surreal, but there
Voting on the leaks are fake, its genuinely confusing to me it's
and our minds you when you hear about how Putin does his press strategy confusion? His isn't it
the game I mean come on as it is just directly contradictory. I think I
what he's doing and what he's doing is, on the one hand, saying the Deeps day. You know playing to this kind of conspiracy
Mary kicking around the deep state. Deep states out to get me said this stuff is real there. Only of the intelligence community being kind of a permanent fixture in american government with access to AVI Secret said that establishment biting back. You know us,
Obama and Hilary hold overs, so he
to say the leaks are real, but he does.
We acknowledge the news environment that he's there to fight he's here to overcome this bad news environment, so you're off egg. He wants that both things the end in the real world, those two things directly contradict each other. So
This was a ninety minute news conference and
The imagery was in some ways just as important as what we are now hearing
The hands were shooting up in the air from reporters. It was a kind of free for all there.
Wasn't than normal. I will call on this person from the Washington Post or than your posts.
And I wonder at the end of the day, if you thought it was an effective one for the president and if you thought it was an effective one. If I can ask this for the american news media, I think he did well in the performance it.
This was a show and what ever network you were watching, whatever sort of political skew of whatever web page, you are
Everyone seems to agree. This was his wife kind of coming back and trying to emerge from this horrible horrible weak. It doesn't change reality. He still stuck with reality. So did it give his people what they needed to stay with him
I'm sure, did its way, some independence, who he's in danger of losing potentially and did it gives
media black, I kind of sort, but that doesn't change a story for anybody. When the thing was over now, they'll take this news comforts I'm actually having a very good time. Ok, but they'll. Take this news for Darfur get that's the way, one
I used to give you a new conference. Every time I made a speech which was like everyday, ok, no etc
I won with news conference and probably speeches. I certainly didn't win by people listening to you, people that's Fisher, but I'm having a good time to me.
Are, they will say, Donald Trump Branson raves at the press on everything and raving I'm just telling you gonna get dishonest people buy, but I'm not granting raving. I love this.
Having a good time doing it? But tomorrow the headlines are going to be Donald.
Rats in an irregular,
What do you think there should have let him never limits must sit down so down we'll get today. The New York Times described trumps news conference as extraordinarily raw and angry, and the Washington Post said of the ranting and raving he did just that, we'll be right back.
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And people with the end of the electoral cycle. On November, ninth, the day after the presidential election, russian President Vladimir Putin stood amid the glittering gold walls and marble columns of the Kremlin and spoke to the United States is better Donald Trump spite nearly later, and has also like to congratulate Mr Donner Drop victory in these elections. He asked for a new warmer and closer relationship. Russia is ready and want to restore the full led relations with the United States. That is waiting, astonished that we spoke with TAT,
three months later, that relationship is in danger because of the perception of just how close the two leaders and those around them now are pay. Neil good evening hire you good. It is eating there. Isn't it gets back every night I called Neil Nick Farquhar the Times Bureau chiefs
Moscow so in the american perception the prudent administration and govern
in Russia wanted Donald Trump to win. The selection is that right? I do, I think they wanted to, but they didn't expect him to. You know: there's accusations of Russia, meddling and hacking etc and would probably will never know to what extent they were able to influence it, but basically they were expecting.
Another Clinton administration which they thought would be hostile. So the idea that Trump, one after saying in so many nice things about Russia during the campaign, they were just sort of taken aback that they suddenly had. It would seem to be a friend in the White House. The next thing that is absorbed in the american consciousness is that in Russia the government is celebrating when Donald Trump wins is that you did that happen? Yes, I mean
He was limited to certain quarters, other very public worth regular reserves, room colleague you three minutes. Another Hillary Clinton prisoner would mean earth round of applause do model or how to parliament. I circle of another drop nationals, lay rich countries, but only president signalled their state of american shimmer of a suitable, a couple sort of high profile. Politicians actually
literally broke out the champagne on national television to toast wow?
underground.
What is the use nuclear debate
sat there on television with glasses in hand, went to champion online glasses in hand and in other alot of also political. I analyse a thing behind closed doors. People in the Kremlin WAR. Doing exactly the same thing, but it must be said that there is one person in Russia who sets the foreign policy course, and that is President Vladimir Putin and he publicly was never celebratory. Never thought of you know he always maintain the same line, which is that, whoever is you know, present United States. We
will deal with, but obviously the government, the Kremlin controls all the media in Russia are the main media anyway, and investors there was. This is great and we're gonna get what we want. Where you get a grand bargain. You know over Ukraine we're gonna, get a grand bargain over Crimea or Syria. They really expected that they were going to turn the tide and not have the sort of poisonous relationship that they had.
Nay Obama years and you're on the phone with these people and Moscow I mean, can you hear it in their voices? This change
mood this sense that this is going to be a good time for Russia. People were so hostile during the Obama administration that they didn't get on the phone with us very much because they always firstly, the New York times- is partly administration for the record. That, of course, is not her, but to get back to the question,
under the abandoned ministries and after Russia. Annex Crimea, Andy stabilize Ukraine are, of course, a series of of sanctions. Everybody thought the overarching economic problems, we're gonna go away. So after the election ends back here in an aid states, we hear them
she tried to hack the campaign tried to influence the outcome of the election in its favour towards tromp. How did that?
over in Moscow with the russian government. Well, you know the Kremlin always benefits from all this news. This report's Russia Centre stage because Mr Putin has been trying,
sell them on the idea that sort of Russia is a major power again in Russia is a player, and Russia deserves a seat at the table with all the big countries, and so the more the foreign is talks about Russia in the more that Russia is the center of attention, the better it is. He even said it once it had a public appearance that it's good, that Russia is back in the spotlight, so they kind of ignored in business.
And then just focused on the fact that Russia was important, may not surprising to my ears that all this news as bad as it sounded here in United States, was good news to the government. There. They talked about how tromp was gonna, be a sea change in terms of russian american relations and in Origin Siberia. A couple weeks ago talking to people just about economic conditions, there are one person said to me: not really
logging Lee. You know you hear more about tromp on russian TV than you do about Siberia Plan D in hand today that a little demonstration outside the tv egg worthing enough with Trump already
you show too much of a month tv. What are they saying about? President Trump on russian teething well doubt has begun to creep. In the past
a week in her first appearance at the: U N, Nicky Hayley the new american ambassador to you, and I consider it unfortunate that the occasion of my first appearance here is one in which an must condemn the aggressive actions of Russia stood up and kind of
let rip against Russia for the violence in Ukraine and accusing them for mankind. Violence, Petra Russia today poses a danger. Directs tells him the new secretary of State who Russia had expected to be sympathetic. Russia seeks respect and relevance on the global stage.
Recent activities have disregarded America's interest around. He turns around and says that sanctions are gonna stay in place until the peace agreement in Ukraine is put in place. So suddenly there in other wrestler getting whiplash. Then you know, Flynn loses his job this week and so of lately, they've been a little bit uneasy and Unser.
About where this is all headed. Neil. Thank you. I know it's late there. I really appreciate it not at all any time
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