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The Battle for the Senate's Future

2020-06-23

This episode contains strong language.

Today’s Senate primary in Kentucky has been transformed by the outcry over police brutality. What can the election tell us about the future of Democratic politics? Guest: Jonathan Martin, who covers national politics for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily

Background reading:

  • Amy McGrath was considered a safe bet in the Democratic primary in Kentucky. But the recent movement for racial justice has elevated the candidacy of her African-American rival, Charles Booker, in the race to defeat Mitch McConnell.
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
From the New York Times. I'm likeable borrow. This is a day of trees. Senate primary in Kentucky has been transformed by the outcry over police brutality. Jonathan Mark on what the election can tell us about the future of democratic politics. It's Tuesday, June. Twenty third Johnson tell me about today's Senate race in Kentucky. Well, this is the democratic primary to take on a similar Mitch Mcconnell. Who, of course, is the majority leader of the Senate for a long time, it seemed why he is democratic. Opponent was be Amy Morass. I'm Amy Mc Grath I love our country. I spent twenty years as a: U S: Marine flew eighty nine combat missions, bombing Al Qaeda in the towel.
Who came to some faint nationally and twenty eighteen, how phrase on the basis of harassment I was the first woman Marine to fly in F, eighteen and combat, and I got to land on grab carriers. She will a marine pilot and entered the house raise talking about her military experience? This is my name is to take on a car, full of career politicians who treat the people of Kentucky like their disposable and almost immediately gayness national pride while some are telling me a Democrat, can't win that battling Kentucky that we can't take back our country, for my kids in yours, we'll see about that. But she was not terribly good, Kulan deterrent I'll just pointed to democratic oceans, data Kentucky Aiming Mcgrath the former
in combat pilot defeated by the fourth term incumbent, Andy BAR. She was running and aims you pretty difficult suit for a Democrat, but this is a district that trump one by fifteen Windsor opponent, Andy BAR looks like will get that fourth term issue I asked him what otherwise a great year for Democrats but Chuck Schumann, who runs this anti democratic caucus. Ineffectively runs recruitment of Senate democratic candidates, figure dead. She had one very important asset that could help him and twenty twenty she a lot of money and built a large list of national donors and twenty eight in and so as this Senate, not House race gets anyway this year, I'm guessing Chuck shimmer decides to look Amy Mcgrath. Again exactly because the idea was not necessarily to beat much recall but to at least keep the race competitive HEAT Mcconnell, pin down and can t
He keep him focused on raising money for his own reelection in perhaps Syphon armed national GEO key money. There were otherwise go to different states and have a go to Kentucky. So that was humorous. Thinking, look Amy Mcgrath is our candidate she's a strong can't. H, M he'll, get Mcgrath and saw her money. Potential saw this out of breath of her. National donor, lest in said age, is giving more common run for his money. The republican Super pack put million dollars into Kentucky she's doing very well in the swamp. Want to be our nominee against, but Conall and I'll get a big sure that she does not have any kind of a consequential primary to speak of. So he wants a clear path for her to become the nominee right. Humor wants to clear the field he once more. The bees are keenly, he doesn't want deal drama and the primary he just wants to have. Raising money, putting Enormous numbers two spoke Mcconnell Endothermic hobbles up.
Attention back to his own home state as a real action. So it does. Life for some time that Mcgrath is not going to have a terribly compel of primary, and so, while Mcgrath seems to be De my head towards the general election with not much of a primary to speak of she's banking We had an extraordinary rate she has raised over forty million dollars, which is more money that Olaf's and allow candidates raise an entire Kim Ain, let alone a primary yeah. That's a lot of money so as well, as everybody is concerned, especially back in Washington, Amy Mcgrath is on a glide path to the nomination, exactly right and then something happens
which are now to a deadly police, involve shooting a noble. The victim was an empty or family claims. She was executed by police officers, serve a search warrant in the middle of the night. On March Thirteenth, shortly after midnight, believer police officer used a battering ram to enter the apartment of Brianna, Taylor was a twenty six year old african American, emergency room tech, then shot her eight times while she was in bed and our own apartment, so they just what in your apartment? Looking for a suspect now understand was already in police custody. This is not unique to Louisville. This is we need answers. We need answers because this should never had, and this killing of Miss Taylor by Louisville Police sparked an outcry in the state we that is then amplified. Sadly, by the killing in late
of George Ford, Minneapolis. And how does that begin to impact? This celebrates the activism in the aftermath of the killing of broad Taylor and George Flaw Lloyd is extremely intends in Kentucky, and especially Louisville. The debt straightens are needed, There are clashes with police and there is a candidate who is running from Louisville is now african American and his candidacy is now starting to get. More attention as your cousin as your neighbour, as a fellow good troublemakers,
Drowns booger, thirty five year old state representative named Charles Bonnet Representative for the very thorough desert with we have then again and if you are not from the border, is it our representative anyway? So he represents. What he likes to say is the poorest zip code. Olive can talk, is no one pays attention to my neighborhood in the western of local, roughly seventy five thousand people. We have just a couple, a grocery stores, a handful of dollars to work as they pray on us and use from the west end of low. You bill black neighbourhood, and if you need to use public transportation, it gives it a hospital, it can take you a couple of hours. Jobs have left and he is someone who is right as a progressive and had been running as a progressive platform is about ending structural inequity in any generational poverty. Do that issues like the green new deal like single peer help? Your butt head God and a lot of attention in large part, because he had raised much money emigre
I've had raised so much cash right, but after the killing of Taylor and then Floyd, we My gather, Brianna Daily run out was the eels once these demonstrations get going. There is now suddenly more attention to book or because he is a state lawmaker whose, in these protest, when Brianna Dad was, he was killed. Applause was due to the way he is getting tear gas in the streets of Louisville, and he is seeing this up front he's experience in this himself day in day out in his home town. He is a fact of life, a black lives matter killed it have you look like me and you look like you. Look like you look like you might be as a deadly weapons being the human being
hurting all over the world, and so what happens to Booker's candidacy, as these protests intensify, with an all over the country. Well, the two largest papers in. Stay the core your journal Louisville and listened to her. Leader. Taking note of this fraud element of racial politics. Endorse vulgar in state that he's the best keen lit for these times that help to glow interaction and then, in addition, to get it back. Key local support he's getting attention from national progressive leaders, Bernie Sanders offers, has endorsement Alexandria, Cassio, Cortez, guess behind his keen uneasy in fact putting them on a sort of national progressive radar screen. If you will, such as Booker is from everything you're describing catching fire.
What is the parties? Anointed candidate Amy were graph doing response. Well, she is talking about these demonstrations in about the killing of Lord Floyd. Although a bit more recognition that it oh, she can't take the primary forever, but you a graph is not a natural politician. This was part of her struggle in twenty eighteen and it does not go perfectly when she tried to engage these issues. In fact, in a debate, she's asked the question about: have you been on the ground and loyal with the protesters the last three days or in Lexington or elsewhere, Miss Mc Grath you ve been to any of the protests enchanters pretty awkwardly. I have not, and why I've been with my family and I've had some family things going on this past weekend,
But I've been following the news and in making sure that now I think we're in the middle of a pandemic So suddenly, Amy Morass politics of moderation and heard distance from these protests are seeming quite out of sync with the moment why, in more to the point book or he's very much tapping into the moment, this is certainly a competitive primary in Mcgrath had has had to spend an enormous amount of money on ads in the last couple of weeks to sustain her advantage money that She and I from Democrats bought that they would use against. Mcconnell has made this more of a competitive race going to the primary Tuesday, and so what is puckers search share? What does that mean for democratic Party leaders back in Washington who that so heavily on any Mcgrath? So
Korea illustrates that the intensity, the activism the war seeing on the streets of America in the last few weeks is now at the door front of the Democratic Party and Democrats are to harness this energy and activism, especially comes to organizing against president trauma Republicans this fall, but when it comes to they're all races, their own primaries, their own party more complicated. So this does also represent a challenge to democratic leaders What right back
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Doesn't, how is a challenge for democratic Party leaders to have a candidate like Booker doing really? Well, because on the surface it seemed like a hotly contested democratic primary. That raises lots of attention raises lots of money that that's a good thing for the party. Well, it creates a challenge. Behoves jog sure has gotten used to being able to dictate primaries in these Senate raises basically every two years, but is not just about sure. This is about the democratic parties leadership being able to keep its grip on who the nominees we're gonna be where the money is gonna go and this is a real challenge to that power. That grip on the party, and why does a grip matter if it maybe out of sync with what democratic primary voters want. Well, because leaders like charge you more names replaced
We believe that to keep or gain majorities, they have to appeal to a broad cross sectional voters and then that means nominating some. Keenly were more moderate depending upon the state or the district that they are running. Em and Booker does not fit that more, Exactly a little bit like shoe more sceptical that I can lead of Booker's liberal politics could win the race in a place like Kentucky where Trump one authority point four years ago, but I think to get closed to the bone here. If sugar is not able to control the outcomes of these democratic primaries and he's got people in his caucus, potentially who were not loyal about him, one despite his intervention that can create vote counting headaches for him, and you know looking at the map right
his majorities probably gonna be, if there is one a seat or too it's not gonna, be that extensive, so every vote counts, so he's take me about who am I going to have a my caucus, who's going to be reliable who's going to be less so, isn't that where matters. It reminds me a little bit of what how Speaker Nancy Lucy dealt with with the election of the squad, among whom is our gender Cassio Cortez, where she had to leave progressive Democrats who tugged the entire body at times to the left in ways that house leadership wasn't perhaps ready for, but it's either more delicate in the case of humour because of man,
because the Senate is going to be so closely divided next year in a Democrats, have majority it'll be a narrow one think about a Pelosi in the house. She one hundred and forty season, two thousand and eighteen, that a pretty robust majority. So you could lose a handful of progressive. What and basically cater to your more moderate Democrats, because those are the ones that had numbers. This is just a more delicate situation, because the Senate is on a knife edge You were talking about this race in Kentucky as if it is very high stakes for chuck sugar, but how much does this race in particular, really matter. So this is less about events. We beating Macao what you're gonna be a tall order and Kentucky. Then it is about what's happening and the democratic Party- and it's not just the in Kentucky. Also on Tuesday there is a competitive price.
Featuring Elliot Angle, who's? The long serving chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, whose facing a primary from an african American Jamal Bowman in Virginia, are fairly conservative district. There is also on Africa work and running in that primary. So what I'm really interested in watching the primaries unfold is KEN progressives, gather, strength, organized and for overcome the establishment candidates in some of these races, but also is twenty slash, twenty going to be for black candle, that's what twenty eighteen was for a lot of women, which is where the capturing the energy of the moment- and I think that's going to be one of the most fascinating things to watch on Tuesday is Kim Black Handle. That's like small bumping into your life Booker in Kentucky. Can they build the
thy racial coalitions capitalizing on this extraordinary moment of race in America, John and it would seem counterproductive, not to mention perhaps hypocritical. For the democratic leadership to stand in the way of such a change within their party that you described in the party said it welcomed These progressive women, twenty team and wouldn't you wanna, welcome and celebrate african american progressive candidates. In this coming election cycle. Well, here's the cat, A lot of the women in twenty eighteen. The Democrats embrace were more moderate. You know the squad Godfrey attend
Jim, but a while the women who ran and one in twenty eight he who were not as well known, are much more centrist in their political orientation. I think deference here is twofold is first of all, I think there is concern that some of their politics are to progressive for their state or districts, and I think, in the case of angle of congressmen angle, it's just a matter of protecting incumbents dead, that's a longstanding rule and both parties are that they supporting company. So you Nancy Policy into promo feel obliged to support a long time allies. Somebody who's up for reelection way. They do want to lose loyal votes long time. Allies then I'll make sense for the leadership in theory, but isn't the greater risk for democratic leaders on a really practical, of all that, they are missing this moment
They are not getting behind candidates and they risk losing touch with this very powerful constituency that seems to be ascendant within the party right. The left was say: this is what the moment is, and this is what the country now needs in the man's given the virus. Given the issues of race one. Just as given the economic collapse, the moment cries out for no real substantive, sweeping policy changes in America and that if you dont abide that, if you don't recognize that they you're out of touch as a a democratically- and I think this conversation
this tension between the left in the centre and the Democratic Party, I think, is really going to come before in in that version of this Jonathan. What becomes of somebody is democratic leaders who we started this conversation focusing unlike a senator shimmer, what I have to adapt to the moment and if they don't that they're they're gonna pay a political price in their own party and they risk losing control of their own parties nominating process, because they would further feed this energy on the left in risk having their own colleagues lose primaries. And yes, even perhaps in tumors case
they would risk their own seats in. I spend a lot of time talking the candidates and they often try to hedge, or they often try to trim their answers to reflect the states of the running. It was not the case, and I talked a book or a way on a graph. Your Europe, upon your primary opponents, do you think that she would lose Mcconnell level? Of course,. He was very straightforward about the fact that he believes the moderate approach trying to not be it is true. Ideological. Was Loser and can talking is is the same, and this will be always views play whole Lotta Mcbride leather ways, and I don't talk about real issues. Don't talk about pop just play the political game and you'll fill out some conservative.
But also we ve tried that before you, so we ve seen Thou Playbook use time and time again and people or knock off or for that bullshit again, because we need a clean environment. We need to staple jobs. We need more They want somebody who's gonna, be true to themselves, who is not going to try to sort of hammer or hedge, and he did meant anymore we are of what are you gonna say that after the primary went when she recalled you on the phone says, if you
the modern you want to help you got it, you got it you dolphins, over, that's love well, will be used as well as the council. Often. Thank you very much. Thank you. Pause in Kentucky opened at six a m today. Thousands of Democrats cast meal and balance some of them weeks ago, before the race had tightened long lines are expected for those who plan to vote in person. A single pulling place has been designated for Louisville, Booker's, hometown and a city of six hundred thousand.
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