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and her walk. My coin, my akin has been following the race and explains why one side already seems resigned to music it's tuesday december? Sixth, so maya, georgia again or one off again, I mean there's been lot of episode of the daily, where we joke that were experiencing deja vu. But this is true, a case of history repeating itself it is and for georgia, voters they've been here before, and have done this run after becoming commonplace in the politics of this state, bright, right and probably painfully common. So before we talk about the senate, runner

That's gonna be happening today on tuesday between reveal warnock and herschel walker. Let's talk about how and why we got here the last time, maya that we talked to you was right before election day, the mid term election day. So, let's start the clock back then sure well, right on the battleground georgia, new polling shows a heated senate race between democratic senator Raphael, Warnock and republican challenger, herschel walker. What we already knew was going to happen was that the Senate race between raw fail we're not in her show walker would be a really close one. Ruffian warnock in our pole has a five point lead at this time. Warner leaves walker by just three points you ll have to candidate states. are, you are essentially at easter, statistical tie it right. All of the poles were showing

the race within the margin of error. So when it comes to the senate raised, we might not have a winner on election day in part because of a third party candidate was pulling about cyprus. percent of the boat right now we could mean looking at this race into this and a couple of weeks really before election day organizers campaign operatives we're starting to prepare for a scenario in which they would have to continue campaigning for an extra for weeks. George is again the centre of national politics. After a historic, mid term election, one of the biggest races on the ballot is now heading four run off. It is official that there would be a one off, because neither Canada got enough votes to one hour. Exactly income in denmark

senator reverend Raphia warnock and republican challenger, herschel walker finish at forty nine percent each but warnock finishes first with roughly thirty five thousand more boats under georgia law. If no candidate receives that fifty percent it just go to a run on and what ended up happening was rough ale, warnock finishing several thousand votes shy of the fifty. Sent threshold needed in georgia to outright when an election right. which brings us to today's run off and beyond worn ox, not big enough to avoid or one off me on election? I what The results from the general election tell us about the relative strength of these two candidates and about the political stakes of the run off itself,

so we come out of election night with a pretty clear view of what each candidate has to do in order to win for weeks later in the run off, and the challenges are really mounting at that point: herschel walker. Georgia's governor Brian Brien, secures this resounding victory for conservatives in the state, but there's a two hundred thousand vote deficit between his win and herschel walker's run off result. So means. There are over two hundred thousand conservative. We the voters in the state who were fine with governor camp and were in favour of republican control of the state but still had concerns about herschel walker. In fact, didn't cast a ballot for him during the general election, anticipate I understand it. This is ticket splitting is the idea that lots of republicans owing to the voting booth,

machine and they pick a republican governor, but they actively reject herschel walker, exactly and that doesn't necessarily mean that they vote for raw warnock. Some of them voted for the third party candidate Some of them wrote in mickey mouse and some of them left the ballet completely blank, but that still not good news for herschel walker and that's the ground than he to make up now right and tuna thousand votes is just a lot of That is no way around that it makes a big fat she red light of a problem politically speaking, so how did republican understand the extent of that,

So many republicans not voting for the republican nominee for Senate well. So here we see Republicans biggest concerns about candidate quality. Coming to fruition, where herschel walkers passed his domestic violence allegations the stories bout, hid the children that he fathered, who he wasn't in touch with about the women who said that he had paid. For them to have abortions, despite the fact that he himself said that he was staunchly against them caesar the outlandish campaigns speeches that he had repeatedly on the trail and the ways that he misspoke. All of these had a compound of fact, on Georgia's electorate and turned off a really important slice of the electorate. These moderate conservatives who ultimately decided not to vote for him and what

for democrats, what did the election tell them about warnock about his chances in this run off so democrats? Have their share of challenges cut out, for them is, while here, the biggest being the fact that they have to turn out now, they're same coalition of voters, and it's just a more complicated scenario, because you're asking people to come back to the polls in a shorter period of time and the democratic coalition in georgia just consists of an array of different kinds of voters that you now have two corral back to cast ballots. But the other big thing here too, is what is going to motivate them to get back to the polls and what we ve learned from the election. Of course, is that Democrats maintained their can. all of the united states Senate so the argument that georgia would yet again decide. Control of the chamber is essentially mood, and so there's this sense of nervousness that sad said

among organizers and democratic leaders in georgia, that it would be more difficult for them to get their voters back to the polls and that this seat may indeed be lost if there wasn't a nothing fuzzy, as particularly among democratic base. Voters in georgia, who are feeling pretty tired after these last few years of campaigns and elections right. So what you're saying is heading? this run off. Neither party seems to have the kind of all. Out enormous motivation for the race with Democrats because they already control the senate. Republicans They ve just seen very vividly that in this case hundreds of thousands of their own. Voters have soured on walker, so the question would seem to become which power He will somehow summon more motivation in what is kind of a low motivation electoral situation in an election that

decided entirely by motivation by voter turn out right, so there's this sense that nobody has the upper hand and that's just a key feature of georgia. Politics at this point, the fascinating so given that very quirky low motivation situation in which motivation matters a lot. What ends up happening? How do things proceed on both sides? Cometh start with the Democrats, so dammit That's essentially launch this all out more team million dollar advertising voter mobilization campaign by the final week of the run off. We see fifty four million dollars spent by the war, not campaign and democratic aligned groups visit serious tubs and the people of georgia deserve a serious person to represent them.

on lowering youtube and facebook, almost every other add, is a warnock advertisements pastor as a sort of the well. I know the problems georgians are facing even on conservative right. your stations. I voted republican most of my life and I was proud to support brian camp the more hard about herschel walker, I became concerned. The message is coming from surrogates, who are conservative voters who supported brian camp but say in these advertisements e I just can't get past or for walkers lack of character. The fact that he lies so freely is very concerning to me they themselves have concerns about herschel walker. At the end of the day, I have to vote for someone that I can trust, and that has integrity, and I don't believe that is herschel walker. What makes Warren knox advertisements so compelling at this final stage of things

if that were not himself, is really no longer the messenger of this anti walker mantra that his campaign has really adopted there was to stupid movie late gonna get better, don't get better, which do you wasn't it away on tv one advertisement that is really gotten a lot of attention: Ok, I think the other night I want to live as a focus group of sorts where you have about eight different voters watching justice series of videos make more alive. I'm gonna make me I think we're in trouble that show olive hershel walker, there's more outlandish campaign speeches. What the hell is he talking about periods if we pursue a while to kill nobody as ridiculous as

five seconds of my life, I'll, never get back. Why would I want someone like that leading the state of georgia he's completely unqualified, for this really really serious job and all the advertisement is, is just to look at their reactions. Watching this and like old man back I've got to go It is embarrassing, let's call it what it is. It is embarrassing and I can say that in my conversations with voters and others around the state while there being blanketed with these advertisements, they really are which is annoying exactly, but they really are seeming to break through and finally, one of the most effective tools that Democrats have at their disposal now is their ability to bring out the biggest stars of the poor he to come and campaign in georgia I know it feels like we just did this, and that's because we did

I think, the biggest example of courses former president obama, making a second trip to georgia and less than six weeks to read campaign for Raphael warnock in the heart of atlanta, for the same reason that I was the last to do that. One more call the mod from. and your fan and then it's an event that brings thousands of supporters. Galvanizes people excites them to not only turned back out and vote, but to go back to their communities, families and friends and get them to go back to the poles as well. And what's facility was about his message at the savannah. Some culture, as well as democrats, are to have control of the senate. What what

it's mad. He laid out in pretty clear terms all the ways that a fifty first seat in the senate could actually be very helpful to democratic voters. Let me let me break it down, for you senator give Democrats more breathing room on important bills,. It prevents one person from holding up everything it'll help prevent republicans from getting available approved majority could allow them to do things like passing a federal abortion by so one boat said it could make out so the democratic strategy

is to do everything humanly possible to leave no stone unturned, no dollar unspent Joe pull out all the stops. Yes in together, as many voters who cast ballots on november, eight back to the poles, preferably book. were election day on December six right, early, voting, yes or on election day So really the power and democrats efforts is all the more pronounced because republicans aren't matching it. We'll be right back. The momentum of Dana farmers, cancer discoveries has been nothing short of revolutionary. Take the nobel prize winning discover

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Did it we ve already established. Has a lot of difficulty is right in getting his message out there? How much money does the walker conveying ultimately raise is far less money to be sure At the same time that we're seeing democrats pour out close to five million dollars on the airwaves republicans have a little less than twenty five million dollars. Oh wow, so village like half yes, and so let me what that means is for every one, herschel walker advertisement that you're seeing You ve got two to three Raphael: warnock advertisements. The message just getting really drowned. And then there are the ongoing problems with herschel walkers campaign itself.

In a crucial window just before the thanksgiving weekend, there were about five days, were walker was nowhere to be found. This was a weekend that sought to full days of early voting on DE in Sunday this was an opportunity in the eyes of democrats and republicans to just hit the ground running campaign. ang and getting your message out there, and even for a candidate like walker who was at a fundraising deficit, he could have at least made up some ground with voters that he needed during this period, and I know this was significant, because a number of the conservative leaders that I spoke to, who have long defended, hershel walker through the abortion allegations through that

outside children, we're really scratching their heads at this decision. Saying look. I dont know how we explain this went away. This was the time that we needed and we can't get it back fascinating and when walker does re emerge on the campaign trail the scene at his events as farmers. Muted, the crowds are smaller. The excitement from him in his campaign just isn't, is palpable as well. as during the general election. So, as

Campaign itself seems to be flail and quite low energy, what's happening with the larger republican party apparatus. How involved are they in trying to support walker in this rauf, not as involved as the walker campaign would like to see them be the biggest name who could come and visit georgia at this stage would be the former president donald trump, but both camps, aids, and walkers, came to an agreement that that just wouldn't be a good idea that it would alienate the slice of the electorate. The moderate conservative

that walker needed to win over right, so the next best bet there would be these figures who have in republican politics, been very popular and have campaigned for candidates who have gone on to be successful in their campaigns. Figures like florida, governor rhonda, santas or virginia s, Glenn young can, but those leaders didn't come to visit georgia, either in the most that they did, at least in the case of governor to Santa's was attached there. I came to a fundraising email for hershel walker. The people who end up coming to visit georgia as I've come to really admire herschel walker and his family, who we see most often in this run off period, around applause for him and his family put up with all those our senators lindsey. Graham

is a freedom state, tat crew. Georgia is a rat states, and these are folks who do have some sway with the conservative base in georgia, and they certainly help herschel walker deliver a campaign message, but they don't have that same level of appeal with the voters that personal walker desperately needs to win over. In this run off, which is moderate republican voters exactly do not weigh as soon as you can go, vote go vote and I probably should add that georgia, governor Brian Kemp, who does have a solid track record of appealing to these more moderate conservative voters in the state.

Is campaigning with walker in these final few weeks. Who do you want a fight for you in the united states Senate? Do you want a guy that represents our values like hershel walker? Do you want somebody that stood with Joe Biden? Ninety percent of the time. Probably as much as walker would like he's done. One campaign a ban, one fundraiser and has handed off a portion of his voter mobilization apparatus to the walker campaign, but he is involved interesting. So, with the exception of camp, the republican party writ large, especially its biggest stars, the starting to kind of steer clear of this walker campaign, perhaps because they're saying exactly what you have been describing, which is that the candidacy itself is pretty

wobbly, so that house me understand part of the gap in motivation that we're seeing here. But how me understand why democrats are showing so much motivation, in this race, knowing, as we established earlier on the conversation that the really need the sea took a java, well I think in the minds of a lot of democratic voters. Herschel walker represents a lot of what donald trump represented and trump ism republican politics represented, that he was the celebrity candidate with virtually no political experience. Who is vying for an extremely powerful office? He also represents the sort of anti democratic and extremist ideals.

tromp israeli given rise to, and so for democratic voters. This is the real reason to turn back out and not just to defeat herschel walker by two also defeat trump ism, and these forces that he represents right for democrats. The idea here maybe to elect warnock defeat, walker and kind of finnish, the mid term job of beating back bishop itself. Exactly my given everything you have told us, it sure seems like this: run off in which warn stands a pretty good chance of prevailing, but let's stipulate, as we must do, that politics is full of surprises and that herschel walker could win. So what would need to have and for that to a car, given all the motivational and logistical hurdles, he faces her So walker will need to absolutely explode turn out numbers

on election day from not just the party faithful at the conservative base, but those prized moderate conservatives that we ve talked about? Who may have a change of heart, he's we too need them to have a change of heart rate and turn out en masse to vote for him, and look. Georgia is still, as we saw in the general election very much a favourable environment for conservative republican candidates, and so he still does have the numbers on his side in terms of the number of republican voters who exist in the state right if they can get by them, if they can get behind him and had to the poles to vote

today. What, let's just say, the things do end up going the way they look like, we expect them to go and warnock does wednesdays run off. What do you think that the two parties will ultimately take from that outcome, given how both candidates have behaved during this run I think, a warnock victory only underlines this growing sentiment. Among republicans that trump ism and from back candidates were too deeply flawed and ineffective, mid term cycle and that they need to move on from the former president as the kingmaker in the party bright, but for democratic that's the take away is a little bit more complicated because we know the Democrats can, when in georgia we saw Joe Biden when the state and twenty twenty, of course senator warnock and senator John ass off one as well to democrats from the state

But what made their wines in large part was this sort of boogeyman figure on the other side, this trump is in Republicans turned off a lot of voters and ended up resulting and undemocratic success, and this is very similar and what we see with Hershel walker against Raphael, warnock walker. An ally and close friend and ideologically very similar to former president donald trump, that would help senator warnock immensely if he is successful tonight. I think we would be able to point to that right, but the question is what happens in twenty twenty four, for example, if donald trump is not the nominee for president

republican side or twenty twenty six or beyond? If he really is a figure who receives from view in republican politics, is an open question of how democrats in georgia will still be able to campaign and win without a figure like him on the other side right and without trial? The question because arms is georgia as purple enough as potentially winnable for democrats. We think it is, or does it go back to being what it was before trump ever arrived in american politics, which is reliably read, and I think the answer to that question. It certainly has huge implications for georgia democrats in the work that they have time, but also for,

their swing states in this era of transition and from back allies of how they ll be able to campaign and craft messaging to voters, but still allows them to hold, will power and influence without a trump like figure to run against or maya. Thank you very much appreciated. Thank you pause in georgia clues tonight. Seven, p, m easter and the reason is expected to be called a few hours later, already back This package is supported by accused all new tuesday on fox from you winning executive producers of homeland in twenty four, don't miss foxes,

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