From the New York Times. I'm Michael Barbara, this peace, today, twelve of the weapon found in the gunman Hotel in LAS Vegas Ridley modified with a sin we'll device that can be bought on, but effectively, trends forms of legal fire into. Automatic weapons, what he's a bump stock and where did it come from its Thursday October So, Chris, the morning after the shooting your hearing, the audio of what happened in the past guess, and what are you hearing what what I heard was what everyone heard, what was this long extended burst of fire? that sounded like an automatic weapons sounds like a machine gun

Chris shivers is an investigative, a quarter of the times and the reason I was that initially was the length of the burst impossible to count. The rounds was far more than the traditional magazines. You would here in an assault rifle you'd and almost never this long sustained continue with burst that we heard out of that hotel and that essentially sounded continued until the shooter without of happiness? to make immediate sense to me that someone who had military training would shoot like this, because that's not the way Infantry veteran Trained fire, they fire in short, burst in they fire, six or eight rounds and they'll be a pause, though Raymond reorient the weapon, though fire another six or eight round. So when I heard in my initial impression, which

doesn't come from a military background and how is it? You know that before I was rapporteur, I sure in the Marine Corps Infantry and fired many of these types of weapons, myself trained on a whole assortment of I know you want to know. Why is the speed of this? The number of bullets that you think your hearing coming out of this gone so notable on an unusual while in the United States, in the main, the types of weapons that can fire at that rate of fire are banned for almost all civilians so having covered and followed a lot of mass shootings and crimes with semi automatic rifles over the last twenty or thirty years, I had never heard something of the United States fired lake.

And the commission of crime. So what do you start to wonder realize it. Those guns that produce that sound are illegal but but you're here, while a few possibilities come to mind, those guns were broadly ban but still possessed by a few people, but the quite expensive and those people in my experience, tend to be law, mining and federally vetted. So you start to wonder what else could this be in a world where we could a weapon of this sort come from? and at least the possibility of a semi automatic rifle that has been modified to fire in the rate of speed and what more

further gun like that. Well, there's number ways to do it. There are devices that are called bump stocks. I ordered my bonfires stock from above our systems. There's the package that speed up the rate at which the semi automatic weapons is firing, the mechanics internally, the weapon, don't change together. You try. The south, but the raided the weapon is discharging bullets starts to rival that of an automatic weapon. Tomyo a bit more about this thing. What does it look like Chris above a bump, while I.

To confess a certain amount of ignorance, said the bomb stuck for my own personal experience goes back. When I was handling I'm sixteen, then I was part of my daily life. They weren't saying they were out there, so I've never actually handled were fired one. Basically, what I want to do is caught in a whole began, with my left hand, being a right handed but think of the stock on a rifle which extends roughly from your shoulder forward up towards the chamber that entire component swapped out with laughter marked accessory, which the inexpensive and put it in their turn. Your guard here, but I'm not gonna grip that the pistol grip and it would look. You now say your fifty feet away. The rifle really wouldn't look much different too, and it takes all practice, but once you gonna go, and you can actually do this pretty quick. What's the basic working and physics of a bum stock, and how does it work with how a gun

normally fires so when a weapon is fired? There's a cartridge inside the chamber which is loaded with propellant, the propellant burns and the expanding gases of the burning propellant pushed the boat. Out the barrel and there's access power, there's excess energy. For that you hear some of that in the report of the rifle. Some of it is sound, but other energy manifests itself, as backward recoil, essentially pushing the stock of the weapon towards the shooters shoulder some of their accession. Energy is harnessed by the Bob Stock and it channels some of their energy to push the entire rifle or the stock of little back and forth on this, the sliding stock

can is doing it. I didn't realize the sliding motion like that. You pull back any slight it. The trigger just organically, comes into your finger and it starts to fire once again, on top of the gun and start button, some roused downrange felt great. There was actually lost more than just painted it fill it just still also varies all ready and with the trigger depressed continuously or the trigger finger industry. In one position, the triggers strikes repeatedly back in force This essentially fired without the shooter doing the firing the rifle becomes almost self firing. With the success we attached that I was really impressed with that, because it is so easy because once you slit forward eliminating just fires like one time, simple, crass well, was very, very exciting. There was more than I had to spend a lot of fun issue. Was blast beloved

and why do people use these? Why would you use a bomb stock other than, of course, fur for something her effect like this. Well, the obvious use would be for someone who possessed one of these rifles and wanted to accelerate the rate of fire to mimic or rival, that of an automatic weapon. There can be any number of motivation. For that I mean if you go to look at the advertisements in the Marquis materials. You know various manufacturers of these types of by daring, to put on parchment what our founding fathers built, deepen their hearts, the law they advertise it as as fawn or as someone who watch the experience of firing at that rate men, which is otherwise pretty difficult experience to realising the United States, because you can't possess, without a great deal of difficulty illegal autumn, adequate

active rev of all matters worse beneath the Heavens none shines brighter than our constitution, you said Chris on all that? Much about bomb stocks have physically use them, because they weren't really around. When you were in the Marines and handling guns on a regular basis. Do you know where a bomb stocks came from income? Why they came at all? Well, I would put the bump stuck phenomena and with a larger phenomena. The surgeon popularity of american military style rifles that have really taken off, in my view, such roughly two thousand and four it'll from ninety ninety four, until two thousand for the ten year ban on weapons that were termed the salt rifles under federal law and that in though the gun ownership community made these rifles in some way see more coveted and when the

all expired in two thousand, for it coincided with the United States being two wars, and there was a plethora of civilian Ized, semi. Automatic versions, rifles that otherwise strongly resembled the rifle used by the american military and with that came, the horse said

The accession treaties in a larger can workers well, no larger capacity magazines, different types of optics, illumination devices lights, all sorts of things that were common in one form or another in the military became very common in the civilian sector, the civilian firearm sector, and when the ban ended, we know what I saw was very large uptake in sales, which was then followed by. You know, cycles of anxiety that the ban could come again and each time there is a sense in the industry and in the consumer, feel that there's gonna be a fresh regulatory attack and something might be taken away. Each time you tend to see these types of devices or weapons selling briskly well sticking out of the politics of this campaign. That's gonna Capitol Hill, where there are no arms twisted very little Lord. It ain't was hell yet somehow a law

that our recent survey showed was supported by sixty. Eight percent of Americans is just fading away. What the story of how that ten year ban ended in two thousand, for it simply told it was a ten year law and it wasn't reenacted like export. You're fired the measure band. Nineteen types of semi automatic rifles commonly called assault weapons, and it was supported by both president and by set over carry because he and our aim, as we discussed on yesterday's daily effectively opposed it being renewed different. Yes, there is a lot of opposition to that's why, despite all the mass hysteria here and from our opponents, said, this is about machine guns, it's not about machine guns. Machine guns have been banned virtually since nineteen. Thirty, four, these guns have been around for over a hundred years. They function no differently, they don't shoot bigger holes, they don't shoot bigger bullets, so it's it's not so

rising its had no impact on crime and because it's a failed policy Congress should allow to sunset christened waving. Sure I understand: what's legal and what's not legal, when we talk about the weapons were discussing, what exactly is the difference between an assault, weapon and an automatic weapons? That's a good question and you're gonna get into a pervasive. Then recurring argument about these definitions, so technically an automatic rifle rifle that if you depressed the trigger for fire continuously until you release the trigger or it runs out of ammunition, these have long been banned in the United States and they can only be legally possessed with fairly rigorous federal licensing process. Assault rifles are something else, but in the simplest sense in the United States.

Military style rifles that fire semi Automatic Lee were banned from nineteen. Ninety four to two thousand and four. That ban expired and they are legal in many parts of the country. Now from what we think, we know about the shooter's rifle in LAS Vegas, it fits this last definition. At least some of these weapons were legally obtained, semi automatic military style rifles in the assault weapons line in there, if they're from the same lineage, but they would only at purchase fire semi automatic lie, and then they have had an aftermarket accessory accelerated the rate of semi automatic fire? Some people may look at this and say it's sort of an end run on the law that it complies with the letter of the law, but not the spirit right I mean essentially bombs talks can turn legal weapons into automatic weapons which are illegal. Not quite they contain

legal semi automatic rifle into some automatic rifles that fire at rates that region Campbell an automatic rifle, so if you're, down range from this, as they say, if you're being fired at the practical effect would seem to use the same brain but, for all intents and purposes, bear with me its functioning like an illegal weapon, even if it is a legal weapons were kind of doing here. I would say that it. I would say that it fires at a rate that rivals and automatic weapon, but it is still firing semi automatically, so the result in the same the process is different at this point. What do you make of the fact that this

you're in LAS Vegas possessed or may have been actually using a bomb stock. So I'm the bump stuck provides an explanation to the first question, her one of the first questions that came to mind when we all heard those long sustained burst, then how did someone get a weapon like that up into that hotel knowing that weapons of that class or largely banned in the United States? So I think that the possibility that this was a bunch stock is the law enforcement authorities have said answers. The question and introduces was essentially a whole new type of crimes in the United States.

How would you describe that crime, the ability for shooter to use a single weapon to fire and extraordinary volume of fire across a considerable distance at a concentration of people under the laws, as they were conceived and broadly understood? I dont think most people thought that was readily possible and now, if these types of devices are legal and available and can be prepared to semi automatic rifles that are capable of firing, four five hundred yards it as we have seen in LAS Vegas, creates a potential for the different sort of havoc

one that was thought to be outside of the readily available weapons in the United States and how that would have affected the outcomes in terms of total casualties rears its little bit over a guest to try to break that out, but you certainly would think there would have been fewer victims if there were. She were bullets in a short period of time. Chris, as a former military person to see military style weapons in the hands of civilians, whether they're going use them for something like this or not. What do you make of that sort

to say, as you know, is a former marine and as foreign correspondent who covered a lot of violence and war overseas. Sure many years I have to say it's, it's startling to hear that type of that volume of fire in such a short period of time in over an american city. That's not something! I think I never expected to hear, and it's you know it's been a difficult week to try to process then Chris, finally, if I wanted to get a bomb stop article by one as a civilian

How would I get my hands on one of these? My guess is Michael you'd have a tough time this week is past is precedent, usually after there's an incident where a change in the political conversation in which people suspect that there could be regulatory actions against firearms, were devices. Later the firearms they tend to sell out pretty quickly. So are there might be a run on these? I would think there's around the store right now, and I have not sampled, that in full but I'd gone to a few websites and seen they were sold out. Chris? Thank you very much for taking the time tax revenue On Wednesday, daily producer X, rays, Condor Raja called around to a handful of gun sellers across the country,

Thanks, I'm tell flights. How me help you I am calling, but the availability of the device to bump stuck sure did you ve got mine is saying that it is out of stock. Evidently of what happened we do. I can give you might try, Google and flood bar to a basic. Let's go moonlight looks like we are sold out of everything by slight fire. Don't sell em, never have thought of God. It microwaves about forty miles from me, but one him devices. I never did. Therefore, I could make the got things I work out. In luck, I don't sell em, we got one word

We will support the mob is five. Ninety nine shit, I'm pretty sure they ve, been you're, goin, crazy, thickly, so kind of home today in Washington on Wednesday Senate Diane Feinstein of California, introduce legislation to ban the sale of Bob stocks. We have now witnessed the deadly mass shooting in United States history, nearly sixty killed and more than five hundred injured. Those numbers are simply

Turning in just nine minutes, an individual was able to turn a concert. Then you into a battlefield. Feinstein has advocated for stricter gun control laws for decades and first proposed a ban on the devices in two thousand and thirteen after combine. I thought we would act after four junior tech. I thought we would add after Tucson when one of our colleagues who shot in the head and nearly killed, I thought we would act after a roaring horrible thing in the movie theater, I thought we would act and protect really after sandy hook, when twenty first graders were slaughtered. I thought for sure we would act after our Lando. I thought we would act and now, after LAS Vegas, I hope

Senators will finally summoned the political courage to stand up and say enough is enough by the end of the day, Wednesday. After decades of Republicans resisting any gun, legislation to republican members of Congress said they would also support banning bump stocks. Senator RON Johnson of Wisconsin and representative bill floors of Texas, I don't hear reason for the average gun owner to derive a bomb start that allows, is gonna, be a visitor, bag think we can do that still protect the second amendment, a handful of other republican senators, including Linsey, Graham or in Hatch and Marco Rubio, said they would? the open to considering a ban on the devices will be right back.

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