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Why Vice President Mike Pence is denouncing New York Times reporting about his political future and publicly stating his allegiance to the president. And the stolen childhoods of young Syrians who endured the traumas of civil war and Islamic State rule. Guests: Glenn Thrush, a White House correspondent; Somini Sengupta, a foreign correspondent; Dr. Rajia Sharhan, who treats the displaced children of Syria. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbara, he's busy today, why voice president might hands is publicly declaring his loyalty for the president and denouncing times about his political future, and they the traumas of civil war, then life under ISIS. The story childhood's of young series. It's Tuesday, Augustine New reports claim vice President Pence could be running a shadow campaign to run for president in twenty twenty. If the President Donald Trump does not this morning, the vice president firing vice president has is pushing back hard on this Nay or time story, as are other white house officials. Glint rush. I want to talk about this pretty fastening situation with the vice president
possibilities. It started with a story in the New York Times. What actually happened? We'll start with my colleagues, the Jonathan Martin Alex burns. Writing. What should be in most White House is a failure. National story that the vice president is building out. His political team in that he's got aspirations beyond being the second banana and actually mount a twenty twenty campaign. But the story, I think, took on a greater sense of urgency because of the political predicament. The president is in he just suffered this immense rebuke in the Senate. You have him according to acquaint a pull last week at thirty three percent, his his approach. Waiting write his national proliferating. You have some erosion among a core republicans to the point the Kelly and Conway. His faithful spokesperson admits that he they ve seen some erosion is. It provides among Republicans and conservative trumpeters is down slightly. It needs to go up, they are telling him just enact your programme.
Worry about a congress that isn't supporting legislation to get big ticket items. John and don't worry all the distractions in diversions and discouragement that others who are still trying to throw light. In your path, are throwing your way, foe and, most importantly, you starting to see independent support among independence. Absolutely collapse of this guy is really vulnerable, and so the story was widely interpreted as an indication that pence was planning for Trump to fail. So what's the evidence that might pence is actually starting to think about a debate or plant or play. To run for president and twenty. He has his own political action committee, the Great America Committee and his head by the way long, standing connections with a coat brothers financial network and cope. Others like to fund Republican presented cannot predict.
The ones who are have this agenda of extremely low taxation and deregulation, which is where pants Trump actually have allowed overlap, overtime, we're gonna, cut taxes across the board for working families, small businesses and famine, farms and get this economy moving again. And finally, the really big tell here was hiring Nick airs as his new chief of staff. The barometers for judging someone's elect ability is not national appalling and it's not fun, raise longtime political consultants. Somebody's worked on presidential campaigns if it were than Hilary would have never lost the Brok Obama Ready Giuliani would have never lost John Mccain or my cock. You don't have a niggers around so one, and we should say President Trump and his team worked mightily earlier on to keep niggers out of the White House, you don't
have a guy around like that. If you weren't planning for a significant political future Glenn, how do the vice president respond to this line are reporting that he was eyeing the presidency himself? He really became uncharacteristically outrage. He put out a statement, essentially accusing the times of making stuff up, which is not true. Jonathan and Alex talked more than seventy five republican But as for the story and call the story, disgraceful quote whatever fake news may come our way. My entire team will continue to focus all of our efforts to advance the president's adjourned and see him reelected and twenty twenty any suggestion. Otherwise is both laughable and absurd, and why do you think he went so far in his denunciation of the story at about audience of one syndrome noticed the prince. Did this publicly? This wasn't the kind of thing we're pence could walk up to the present with his hands,
pockets and say: hey buddy. You know I have your backing wasn't or is the stories dick us cause? I don't have that kind of relations, and I don't think Donald Trump has that kind of relationship with people he as a commanding relationship, and everyone else is subservient, and I just don't think that that is the kind of conversation where a private interaction would have done the trick. That's why pence had to go public and it's why he had to give such a grandiloquent articulation. Saying that, because I don't have a close relationship, the vice president to use the media to get to the President look. Everybody around the president uses the media communicate with them, but the vice president present supposed to have a personal relationship, that's kind of a core, If you look at the origin of their relationship, very few people wanted to be associated with Donald Trump. The time that my pants accepted his vice presidential invitation Trump appeared as if he was going to lose ignominiously and at that point in time, might pants appeared to be honoured.
Out to being defeated for reelection as governor of Indiana right, so these two were brought together by mutual political necessity, and I think that is the core of their relationship and is the greatest honour my life, the service vice president to President Donald Trump, I'm proud to call in my room and then finally, I think pence has double proven his loyalty and I think one of the reasons pens had to prove his loyalty is because, after the access Hollywood take away, when you start it lets you do it, you can do anything, but he was very seriously securing either bolting from the ticket. I dont condone what was said, and I spoke out against a war toning down. His involvement in the campaign affected took a couple of days to prey on the matter, but the other part. My faith is, I believe, in grace you somebody who does an awful lot of prayer. I've received it even and that did not sit that whether with a lot of the folks in the president's inner circle am recalled, forgive as we have been
given in last night my running mate, he showed the american people wasn't at heart, He showed humility, so american, I think part of what you see with these over of loyalty, some would say over. The top has to do with him proving to the president that, despite that access Hollywood experience that he is a devoted member is to ask what you are saying is that there are still an effort to prove his life. To all the way back to moment in the campaign where it might have been questioned will look What happened at the end of rights premises term as chief of staff? Look, what came out at the very very and what was the thing that a strange, the relationship between Donald Trump in previous. It was the fact that previous was ready to turn I'm after the access. I would
that was a crucial moment for the president, look who is sitting in the White House right now, despite being damaged, despite overstepping his bounds, who Steve Bannon than and stood by the president and urged him to fight back like hell after the access high, would take. That is alive, of demarcation for the president and my pencils on the wrong end of that line. So finally Glenn this president, has been willing to
tremendous amount of pressure on members of it. His administration, who he thinks have strayed he's been talking about. Essentially, getting rid of his or her in general for weeks now inferred public, slow motion fashion. So what might we expect from President Trump if he perceives that his vice president is a possible contender for his own job? Look if he publicly perceives it pence is gunning form. All bets are off and he'll do whatever is necessary, but that is why pence is over. The top statement was so over the top. He had to prove to the president that he was not behind that story. The question that really remains is whether
This did any damage will trump believe pants when Pence says that is really not doing all of us. If I know Donald Trump, I would say that there is always going to be a scintilla of doubt in his mind about Michael pants started with the access high, would tape, and I think this story compounded it Glenn. Thank you very much. North we'll be right. Back support for the daily comes from tee T presenting the alien is angel of darkness. The all new season of the acclaimed Emmy Award winning television series at the turn of the twentieth century uncover a dark and sinister trail of death and deceit as an intrepid team of crime, solvers reunite to hunt and elusive killer Daniel, brutal Luke, Evans and Dakota Fanning STAR in the aliens angel of darkness, the
new season, premier, Sunday July, nineteen, that nine eight central anti anti go to the aliens dot com for more. They lost their childhood there, no more children. We cannot say these children, our normal. The city of rocket in the north of Syria is a battlefield for the? U S, backed coalition forces fighting to dry out ISIS right outside the city are refugee camps, with of the tens of thousands of children who have also and driven out of their homes in the process Doktor Roger shower Han just returned from visiting three of these camps. As a doctor, I could get written unused to children who are always liveth tinkering at an early stage right, but the children in these camps did not have any reaction like they were from a time they will talk, and I was also shocked. Why don't? They have distraction.
Why are they not responding as enormous child? So, even if you putting a needle in there in an arm or touching on foot or a finger you're saying this is basically no reaction, no reaction to the point that even their body language there's nobody language. That is nothing. You can just feel that the Arctic press, children they are from a fight, but unfortunately I could not do anything for them. They need a lot to look back with social support. While these children were even afraid to see the fight was again normally making a round them kill them everything. My colleagues are many single met, one of these children, my home, An eleven year old boy who had just run away from his home town after ISIS? Seized it too father in Lebanon. He told semi his story,
you're. So I met this boy named Mohammed and he grew up in a town that was not so far from Russia and Russia had been taken over a couple of years ago by the islamic State and they could have made it their capital in Syria and because it was their de facto capital. Their rules were, you know, enforced to the max, so women had to cover themselves from head to toe, could not leave the house without a male S. Court and Mohammed remembers when they came in and his school, which was ordinary white schoolhouse. They painted it black. They raised their flag on it. They of course closed the schools. They told all the boys that you know they have to wear these long, pants and shirt. So even when he wanted to dive into the river for a swim, he had to wear a shirt.
She had to accompany his mother to the market anywhere where she needed to go, because he was the eldest born son and he remembers when he would be at the market with his mother. He remembers being compelled to watch an execution. He said he didn't want to see a beheading, but that was the rule. If you are out at the market has criminal was was being executed. You had to stand there and watch so he said You know, I grabbed my mother's hand, tired. I tried not to see- and he remembers his mother saying. Oh God, help us is Hammad story, similar to the wider reality on the ground for children in Syria. Right now, what are they experiencing? You know Mohammed really embodies the trauma that Syria, children. Millions of syrian children have lived through not just ones who have lived through ices controlled areas because
Remember if you were living in an area controlled by some other rebel group for years. You are dealing with barrel bombs or you know shelling if you were living in a town that had been besieged by one warring party or another, and mainly it was Assad's forces surrounding besieging rebel held towns. Then it wasn't getting in one man who is a former Rucker resident and who was helping out in one of the displaced people's camps. He told me that children would run up to him and ask him for guns, and children would divide themselves into ices and Counter ISIS Militia and continue to play.
War, so they're playing out the reality and the trauma of the complex they ve been. That's are not playing like regards no because they have not been able to play like children before their entire world has been transformed, and I was very, very struck by a survey that save the children did very recently. They surveyed a number of people across Syria, nearly half of the adults they spoke to said they knew a child who had stopped speaking ruler, who suffered from some sort of speech impediment. So you know, literally children have been forced to live through, and watch things that are unspeakable, so you understand the brains of children and how they develop. If you could forward to their adolescents and their adulthood. What do you expect
The lingering effect of these traumas will be yes. This is a really worrying and also I have discussed this with the terms under to incite camps that these children need special care. These children have to be dealt with differently. They have to be stimulated. We have to try to bring back their tiled hood through provide things friendly spaces for these children to play, to return at least to what was considered for them as normal. Otherwise we will lose them as adults and they will not even be able to face life and to be productive and to merge as part of the society. It would be very difficult for them so that our role is to re, establish their child again discern the confidence of children to play normally, not to fear from the environment.
Not to feel that someone would kill them. That sounds close to impossible to me too weak to recreate rather, first of all, it seems it would be difficult to a centrally turn back time, but also they are India's spare refugee camps that therein playgrounds or the normal infrastructure over of a happy child, and so do you think that that's possible. It's true. I fully agree with you. It's not easy, it's not easy, but if we don't start now, we will lose them fasting by simple things: creating spaces for these children inside these camps. No, we can start from the beginning, although it from scratch from zero ground, but at least we can ensure that they have a chance and they will have a chance to have normal. I think the immediate task for a lot of aid workers. There is just how to provide the basic stuff so that children
have a normal day again. You know, go to a building and learned to read. So it's not just one gun, plus one gun equals, who guns? Maybe they can do so normal math? Maybe they're gonna have a safe area where they can play and not be afraid of landmines. You know they were parents who told us that you know there was a food, and so they would whatever they could cobbled together. They would feed their children, and so the kids wouldn't feel bad. They would pretend to chew at meal times, so that the children would kind of think that mom was eating something, but she wasn't, but she wasn't. She was just pretending to chew, and this any parent has done. You know if there's an extra piece of fish or an extra ag. You know you give it to your kid first, but in this case, if there's food period, you give it to you, give it to your kid first and if the child is old enough to understand it, you want to spare your child from pain, and so you pretend to chew
we're here mom and no one had made an extraordinary escape. He told his mother. He wanted to leave his mother took him through various checkpoints. You know pretending have a medical emergency and she paid off a lot of people. Along the way she dropped him off at the border of Syria and Lebanon and when Mohammed tells this part of the story is the only time where his voice cracks and you know his eyes. Like start blinking, and he said good bye to his mother and he crossed over with some other Syrians, across some hills and into Lebanon and his father, who was already and Levin. Another time met him at the border of Lebanon and he now lives with his dad
Lebanon and she works in a little shop that sells potato chips and she helps his father at a bakery where his father works and how. Play football as much as he can on the streets with his other syrian refugee, buddies and them that he left the eye This area is, he did what he was not allowed to do. He cut his hair and he asked his father to buy him pomade and so his father body a little jar of of hair die and pomade, and he died his hair, and now he looks a little bit like a unicorn cause. He's got this little horn blonde hair, and he now where's bright, like hawaiian print shirts and tank, tops things that were totally forbidden and is something of a hero, because he escaped in this in the
way and, like I said, the only time that he sort of almost got he got choked up any almost started. Crying was when he was thinking of his mother, so I think who is left behind who is left behind and his mother. He thinks of he says he thinks of her all the time and he wants to go back and his siblings are still there, but there is no telling when this family will be reunified Thank you for me. Oh thank you so much for having me semi reports on another danger for these children in Syria, even after they re safety aid worker and you and officials say that the militias taking on the islamic state are recruiting children to fight like ISIS did offering many guns and a sense of importance. A smoke
and for the militia fighters. The? U s back. Syrian democratic forces denies that allegation here is what else you need to know the times has and a government report on climate change by scientists from thirteen federal agents, but not get made public, which concludes that the average but you're in the. U S has risen rapidly and drastically since nineteen and Americans are already feeling the impact of a warmer climate. A government so who worked on the report told the times that he and several of his colleagues are concerned that the Trump administration which must sign off on their report before it goes public. My cheek or suppressing the findings contradict claims by the press. And members of his cabinet who say that human contribution,
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