First up today is an interview with Mollie Hemingway of the Federalist. She’s got a new book called “Rigged” about how the media, big tech and Democrats meddled in the 2020 election. Next, Ron Johnson talking with me about Kenosha, Waukesha and the state of the country. Finally, Margot Cleveland on a Pennsylvania election whistleblower, and also on defamation law in the case of Kyle Rittenhouse.
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purse up today's interview with Mollie Hemingway from the Federalist she's got a new book out called rigged about how the media, big tech and Democrats meddled in the twenty twenty election. Don't miss it check this out.
The story of how the media on necessarily divides, as I think, is the biggest story of our time. Really I don't
did the country, thirty forty percent of the country are genuinely dumb people. I don't think that's you have to ask yourself. Why do they believe the things they believe in the answer is because we are told it often an isolated from the truth. That's why
who does a lie to you and tell you the truth is Molly Hemingway senior editor at the federalists who, as a terrific book out rigged, how
media, big tack and are Democrats seized their elections and, might I add everything else to Molly? Welcome the show thanks for joining us, it's great to be here with you.
Molly. You are a genuine media professional. You know them how it works. You called at the last second, which I love
because I do the same thing you ve done so much media. You know they say, call it what it really means, one o five with thirty seconds, and I like the way you have the miser time varies.
Routine jack and I got to say right, Jim. She cut right up to the end. Dab super impressed stupid to the best of your book rig
How, though, how the media big checking the Democrats seized our elections spin flying
of the shells, the biggest
and the media narratives about the election, while you're crazy mean when? U S common sense, questions? Ok! What's up,
in Pennsylvania,
the last minute on constitutional changes to election law, all of a sudden where conspiracy theories in crazies, even though
We could then still think she wanted twenty sixteen election year.
I believe that the exact net-
I wrote it. I was appalled how, after the election,
even though we all experienced it as the weirdest election of our lifetimes, with all the changes to the rules and the processes in the mail imbalance in the
Herbert Funding and everything you weren't allowed, did notice it or say anything, and that just struck me as deeply system
and so I knew I wanted to look into it and figure out what actually had happened, and I'm really glad I did
What are some of the highlights of the book which are to Molly Hemingway other rigged? The meat
a big check and are Democrats seized our elections. What can we expect in the book
Things will learn in there because I think we're all suspicious molly and end the it's. The most american thing we can do is to ask
I mean we had an unprecedented, at least in modern times pandemic
action with millions of mail, in balance with counties that had very little experience with mass male imbalance. Florida has a lot of experience with that air for their election went off pretty well. So what can we expect this
in a book is a lot of people are still really concerned about this, given twenty twenty two billion right around the corner, so I tell a lot of stories. Detailed substantiated still
is mostly focusing on Georgia with constant in Pennsylvania, but at heart it really deals with two big issues and the first
One which kind of blue me away was the role that Mark Elias played in
wrapping our election. I had been following Merkel eyes: could he was the guy who created that Russia collusion hoax in twenty six rule in salary? Quickness General Council he's the one who paid the people can make up the Russia story, though I had already been calling him. I couldn't believe what a big role he played in corrupting our twenty twenty elections by enacting hundreds of
changes of important election integrity laws, flooding the zone with the mail and ballot we had it. As such, we would like more than three fold increase
the number of male and balance, and it was just like you said, done very sloppily and then the other thing was that I had been led to believe that, when Mark Zuckerberg
four hundred and ninety million dollars of his money into the elections with them that this was like bipartisan help for covert release. It wasn't that with a lie, it was an overtaking of governmental election offices which are supposed to be preserved from partisan politics to run the democratic, get
the boat operation and they focused on blue cities in counties in swing state in Philadelphia to turn Pennsylvania and the citizen. With content to turn Wisconsin Atlanta to turn georgia- and it was blotted out
very savvy completely wrong. I mean they just brought in an army of left wingers to run democratic operation in inside our governmental election offices, and it was really effective,
we're talking to Molly, Hemingway, terrific right or also the author of one of the hottest books out there right now rigged how the media
big taken. The Democrats seized our elections, Molly
You don't listen,
the two people out there. Who are they?
the biggest narrative busters on the right, ass I'll, throw shown Davis in there to you shouldn't and talker
you go, throw a hit within
in front of a grenade and attended a heartbeat. If you think you use it, you think something's up, no matter the media penalty in your frequently attacked for it like,
Current Sean are as well
The weird thing is, you usually turn out to be right and we knew you'd debunked hulks, Russia, hoax immediately. You had shown the spy gate.
story, do not be out but doesn't speak.
to the power of the media over our
no collective Borg like psyche in this country on the left right now, the people
give me Sean Tucker, Gregg Jared John Solomon, we're all considered by the by the mainstream code, misinformation, specialists and
We ve been right about everything like there's nothing in your book. You don't pick up with footnotes disaster.
ox thing happen. The russian
The thing was Alex it's like that again
not speak to the power, the media that were considered the outsiders, and yet we were asked
will be factually correct. The attack
die. Oh, it's a maid
thing, but I also think that it's important that people celebrate the mark
realizing of our corporate media. I mean they do they have so much power days, TAT narratives day they do whore.
Both things with their power and they are, in my view, the most powerful, unaccountable political actors in the country, but, on the other hand,
nobody's believing there be asked any more and that good an amended Democrats are and ass bad, but their credibility
is at an all time low. I think the latest Gallup Poll had nine percent of Republican, believing
corporate media and only a third of independence. If not for Democrats, they would just be italian and in the toilet, but I do think that more needs to be done by other leaders on the right. A lot of power these people have is because
for some reason: conservative leaders grant them power and they treat them like their operating in good faith. People participated in dangerous hoaxes. They should not be moderating debates or setting agendas or telling us what we can
you can't talk about, and so leaders need to push back, much harder against them.
talking to Molly Hemingway again author of the hottest one of the hardest books out there right now a rigged how the media
Jack and are Democrats seized, are alike.
that's exactly what they did. You know my
you're right, and I wonder I there's an
theories on their, how the media degenerated. To this point, one of em I heard, which is quite credible, is
you know the media now has to rely on subscriptions more than anything. Given that you know the advent of social media and free sharing of content that
That's their money base at Sir Arteries answer. That's their bloodline. Right is subscriptions. So
have gone more from just you know. I mean they ve, never really journalists beaded, what's gotten worse
God now towards this almost full time. Activism cause they're, afraid of losing their subjects,
that's true or not. I don't know, I'm sure plays a part, but it's just incredible how they control the narrative on just about everything in your right, somebody's Faye Conservatives care to it. I mean the silence on James, very James, o, Keefe, invert us isn't on
believable attack on freedom of the press. The Russia House
it's? U. Why and hundreds of others laugh TAT would like this is so ridiculous wreck the covering up,
Joe Biden failures in a hundred the the blowhole paintings
and the big guy stuff. You know this
celebrating of obvious double standards. No lowest learner gets often. I recalled the for contempt charges and yet the bat and finds himself in handcuffs. Yet I even
at some point they hit rock bottom and say yea. We are kind of frauds and epoch. Maybe we should take a more balanced approach
it gets Avenant was pointed. Is that its working well for them? So I remember it was an August that President Trump MA,
the Atlantic for losing ten to twenty million dollars a year, but I think that's a bargain for the people who
using ten to twenty million die each year, and indeed your billionaires for able to use places like the Atlantic to funnel fake news like their fake. I mourn story that Donald Trump supposedly despair
urge dead Marines, which was not true and yet for just the bargaining.
ten to twenty million dollars. They were able to feed that into the
Media ecosystem even shows up in one of these presidential debates, and why would they change when things are going so well? The the Russia hopes with an obviously stupid lie, as was the cabinet
allegations, as were the only other things like about becoming too
boy, you no date, they just lie, but they kind of get good political outcomes from it. So people need to not just tat
down the credit of the to acknowledge the lack of credibility. These places have but also support people
who are showing that they are liars and showing what the true stories are on that important big, be they have far too much corporate support at these awful media,
Daddy do in, and you know the federalists. I know where you write and Sean whose terrific
can Margo Cleveland. I mean you guys have been amazing,
find yourself under attack to buy these crazies on the left, who again pretend to be all about tolerance in college.
distance, but they only want to coexist with. Like minded people- and you know you see that now, with this Rittenhouse case as well- and the really disturbing troubling coverage of it- I mean
we were to jump the gun and to go
after some of these people the way they want. After this, this young man call Rittenhouse you
We wouldn't be allowed and bright polite company again calling on the domestic terrorist with no evidence whatsoever, a white supremacist, no evidence at all of that, and yet they do it
I think it showed the prosecution of the trouble you see, the prosecutor seemed genuinely blindsided by just common sense. Things mean a one point: is a year in outside are coming up with constant or something like that and consequent. You might my dad lives and was content and oppress. You molly looks like stun,
Let me hear you know really doing these people any favours. It's like they live in an alternate universe that, when their kicked in the car holidays with facts, they almost
Don't know how to respond that even Eric.
whip over the wash the posters. It is my opinion, a cloudy, its they sell and another he's. Ok, we got a star re evaluating all our articles about the russian hoaxing Idjit. Now it's what's today's day job they check it.
indeed over fifty twenty twenty one. Now you agree evacuating you're coverage
we should have done that before I went, I love the day, correct or retract, like two of the p
is that what you want, you will serve for its participation in what was an obvious hoax and so
need to do a lot more than retract a couple stories and put a few corrections on a few others. They need it to even have hope of being ever taken seriously. Ever again. They need to repent fully renounced and make massive firing hire people who aren't crop tax. I mean that the list of what they need to do is long and there, but they're not
it was just a couple retraction Molly thanks for your time. I want everyone to go pick up. Molly's book, a rigged,
ray, don't miss it learn about Sucker Box and all the scams and schemes the media's desperately trying to hide about that
twenty election Gazeta Wanna talk about it. Well, Bali. Does you a very brave right now?
book, and I appreciate everything you do. You know fighting for
liberty and justice over there at the Federalist. You guys are terrific, so that
We're coming on the show we appreciated. Thank you. Dan. Take care,
you gotta that was Molly Hemingway folk. She is she.
An Amazon man. She goes forward, she don't care, but I this crap on the left. You start the bs
It was you gonna call out that was Molly Hemingway
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here Centre RON Johnson talking with me about Canosa, Waukesha and the state of the country check this out.
so we just got an update on the tragic situation in Wisconsin this weekend from the police chief, the mayor, various police officials,
and we learned a lot. We learn the names of the people who were tragically killed. This is just a really tough story, a talk about them
you're too calm down to those centre RON Johnson from the State of Wisconsin, a good man senator
your thawed, welcome to the show. First, we appreciate you come on by dumb your thoughts on this tragedy in Wisconsin this weekend,
Well, it was a horrific tragedy. I just can it will soon press conferences meeting just see how law enforcement out how they were affected by this meals
Chief Thompson. It wasn t a mayor Riley. These are people there at the scene, the described as a war zone, but you just can't help but understand opera.
found me sad. This is and the effect that I'll me I'll be the victims and their family than those that died, those that are still it doesnt injured in the hospital critical, but just just put people and put it they were watching the parade. They are there to see Santa Claus you're there see martian bans and the dancing grannies and establish or something just horrific. They were hunting for the rest of their lives. Mistress businesses, it is evil than its evil, is terrible
the happy that this happens in any community but Sir just awful and senator your Armenia. Obviously you hold an elected office United States Centre from Wisconsin. You, obviously
one. You run, you rob one races, you
I can't imagine me having run for others myself I was in. I don't know good two hundred parades. You go down the parade right. You know how works you bring a couple campaign, people with some volunteers, they give
candy for unanimously Autumn Glory
the ball in Western Maryland, I used to go to every year. You know you give out can't pay little widgets, hidden, gizmos, two kids at everybody's having a good time and your wave and people. Yet all some people boo use some people cheerier, it's just a good time, it's all and then, as you just said, to have these people who go there for this really great event in a great
Well, I mean americana
in just to come away with these now horrible memories. I think that's that's the greatest tragedy of all
medication behind you and me, may I have a small point that will you seen the video but that one group we await their flags in this car. Just
Greek and by me up for those individuals he missed them. They just ploughed into other people from the ashes nauseous
it is I have here and I'm gonna hurt you and I'm glad if they're holding up a perpetual I may be greedy, surely in just go and be there with community
that's the best you can do. You know what I said before I was having a tough time talking about it. I wish I was more eloquent, but, as you just said, sometimes the best you can do is just let people know you're there for me and that's
ass, you can do, but I'm again thank you for taking the time to talking to Centre RON Johnson from Wisconsin Centre might be remiss emitting get your thoughts about another case is profoundly impact. It was constantly- and I wish it didn't, but they Rittenhouse case
I mean if this is it now, you were one of the loud voices on the Hunter Biden case us
speaking out against the mist
information, this information campaigns by the left. You were speaking the truth in that case in the beginning,
It's really disappointing is you know, nothing seems to change gender. The Rittenhouse case from the beginning was a series of false talking point relayed by the meet him and let's just go through a few
carrying ashore barreled rifle false. He had crossed
state lines with a rifle false.
His mom drop them often canosa false. He had
oh attachment to canosa false he shot
black man, false
the judge. In the cases a republic in racist falls, I mean is, is
thing ever gonna change with these people. These are facts centre. These aren't opinions. They were all wrong not to do
remit the rights and duties
The media is a socially either just exacerbating the divide in this country was amazing towards that trial and you'll. Actually,
even the faint and I was able to watch the latter together be able to expect your covered, so you saw the testimony in but to me it seemed like a pretty clear cut case of self defence. It has been quite some time as that is the information has been coming out on this thing, but then to see there was certainly the coup conclusion. I drew ended facts in the other
ready was was drawing on this and then he listened to see an end and Emerson BC. If they work, can you look at the same reality? Come come to completely versions of the fact now. Let me just say: I'm so proud of the jury is out another. They are now the judge. No, under the intimidation that death threats the deliberate they delivery carefully and for my standpoint, they reached the right conclusion, but they did it in the face of intimidation and you can't haven't going back to what happened. Yes to compute, just be honest about something it. What happened yesterday never should have happened. Tat that monster they'll Brooks should be behind bars.
He never should have been left out, but it is the laughed it is. This democratic governance that is, is poor, no bail or minimal, bail or just kind of a river.
robbing door in terms of incarceration for very dim dangerous criminals. What its people that the leading into the country mould
the times that commit crimes are now in this case it was dear Brooks that should happen.
behind bars. He never should have been behind the way that car that these people should be alive today they should still be celebrating or what it should be. A joyous Christmas prayed, but he's not end, and there is a political movement. Those responsible for these things there is a political movement, is responsible for this division is the left. Is the left there's a political movement of lawlessness?
hey. What's? Let's just be honest about that now, I'm glad you said that senator because I had say
is actually perfectly from my last segment. Even those unintended, I don't even know you gonna bring that up. I had said my last my last segment that you know when you're,
You go to police academies in federal law enforcement academy, learn a lot about crime who
midst crime, why they do it obviously same in his party or training, and one of the things that we set out to me is.
centred there's a very, very small number of people in this country. Thankfully, that committee
overwhelming number of crimes. It's not just the
eighty twenty rule, twenty percent of people committee, but it's not even that it's like that.
The five ninety five rule, like less than
I presented the people commit in overwhelming number of crimes so when
you let these career criminals out in what I believe you actually called out. As a dopey policy of you know no cash bale of bail reform. You get this.
people out, why would it surprise you that they go on to commit crimes gets not that we don't know this tough again. This never should happen this. This is a breakdown in the criminal justice system in Milwaukee, which has been governed by democrats for decades in its spilling over into law
law abiding communities like Waukesha. Again I announced I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm saying these things. You can add a moment like this, but they have to be set.
People here I don't need you to be sorry senator. I know I don't think
I need to be sore. I think your statement is spot on accurate and I think if more people had the guts to say it even in moments of tragedy like this, maybe we wouldn't have to have these conversations in moments of tragedy, because it wouldn't be so many moments of tragedy. I think you are
perfectly entitled to say that that is an effort to save people's lives. You know exactly what you're saying and what you're saying is correct, these
People doing this deserve to be called out. Senator I mean these.
People out there you accurately stated are getting people killed you up to bless YO in New York, the you know some
the days and even a place like Wisconsin, a relatively red, leaning state. You have
George Soros, funded prosecutors. It's a fact that sort a conspiracy theory in places like San Francisco, leading to mass looting events like we're living in the walking dead. You are perfectly
as is a public servant entitled to bring them.
up and try to correct this thing. I applaud you'd only to apologize for anything guardian.
Watch him at the press conference. Easy the emotion there in realising some tragedies can't be prevented. This one never should have happened. That's what they're right, don't fury
about this new right senator. While I've got you get a few
for the eurozone, to centre RON Johnson from Wisconsin Good Man Centre,
I8 to shift gears after such a tragedy. But I guess I got a lot of when I get through with you and spending bill, this bill backwards plan by Joe Biden. You know you're in the Senate, everyday, it's obviously a limited body here at the house with their four hundred and thirty five members, you guys are smaller, obviously
you probably all know each other. I would I assume I assume you know you you're, you guys talk and even, if
the party on the other side, it Bobby get a good feel for who they are
where do you see mansion and cinema? This thing it a pass, the house, it's a disastrous bill, it's even worse than their so called infrastructure bill,
Could really bankrupt us and cause
inflation like we haven't seen before, even though we're already in an inflationary crisis, you think mansion and cinema going to fall on this
I hope they don't work with your man who, from the building over the capital a couple weeks ago, and I just conveyed him, said I've. I've got mice
quarters. Sending me the emails with their setting out to their friends praying produce. Man should encourage and cinema the bare feet. They see how they are being abused and harassed and protests by their own supporters. If I just said you have, my support are sending out emails, asking their friends to pray for you and I also join of itself.
Very often in him. In U S, history were one or two individuals can literally change the course of history. We aren't very dangerous path. Now Joe women who we can't afford the intolerance we ve got led fix those we need to make those sustainable. We have to stop me
dear children's future social agenda, you can do it. You're gonna do, but I'm just telling you just please, please consider what Pappas Nations on and how you
In effect, it mean centre you're, a businessman you are not in the Euro
a career polity, your business going for you came into the Senate, the United States Senate Mcgann
state of Wisconsin
I got to imagine you know you didn't business, you probably did what most I'm a business guy myself, yep spreadsheet, chap net present value of a project. Yet you know lines and spreadsheet about income lines and expense lines, and you try to figure out of a project going to be profitable or not. I mean I wish we could all predict the future. Every business would be profitable ever ever, but sometimes you can
the point here is you don't
to make any predictions. We are mathematically going bankrupt. We have
plus trillion dollars in debt were racket
I've trillions more every year, no one centre. No one anywhere is predicting a balanced budget
time in the future and yet
continue to do the same thing over and over again I mean this has to be for a business guy like yourself, the most
strictly experience of your entire life. Then we put so much more
more effort into analyzing eight, ten million dollar investment in a piece of equipment or a new plant.
Firstly more time and effort goes into a timid investment versus one two, three, four five trillion:
our spending boondoggle
no I mean is it Bob? Is your mind your? How how important the pardon my french half asked
yeah, yes and endless processes, immunity, I'm sorry, did the people passing, must avoid goods that they don't know. What do you do it? They don't have a clue.
No doubt the piper Lantern damage this type of spending. This kind of Crete Declaration is going to do to future generations to generate Vegas, know its popular and it might get them.
Yeah, I'm wits again is such an abdication of your wrist
possibility. Is a public servant. I can't you know, I mean we're going bankrupt, there's no doubt about it and everything
he's gonna look! Look back after hour, I don't know what have? What do you mean? What happened we spend money we didn't have for fifty
I mean what what did you think what's gonna happen, Senator RON Johnson thanks again for
taken the time I really appreciate. I hope you have a really happy wonderful thanksgiving with your family. Thanks for coming to send you stay well,
ok, I'm next
top with Margo Cleveland about an election whistle blower in Pennsylvania, troubling video about the twenty twenty election, but before that
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Margo Cleveland thanks for joining the show. I'm sorry I had to listen to that Margo age.
star. I can't believe the country's decaying into such unbelievable madness, and maybe it's just social media Margo another we're seeing it more than by cash
in a wheelchair or New York City get beaten up. You know your quick thoughts on that, these crazy liberals cousin.
chaos everywhere
It's funny. I was right before I got on with you. I was on twitter and those whose gray quote that Techno Foggy probably follow ham. George Rameses the best while he asked his great
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not enforcing the law, and if it's just horrifying.
Yeah. It is we're talking to Margo Cleveland. I,
can't believe we haven't spoken suitor, I'm almost like offended at myself. Margo is just a spectacular writer at the Federalist you'd, be doing yourself an enormous service to follow her everywhere on all social media platforms. Reader pieces at the Federalist you
peace up today about a year?
a new one. I do facts. Ok, we're not left these journalists. We cover
spy gate and Russia. Hoax fairly foot noted everything guy fly, use you in my book follow the money so extensively. You might eroded chapter yourself without even know what it is. I have so many of your footnotes in there, but what I'm always
bothered by with with the left wing media. Is there not willing to investigate any thing? There's this video that's emerge that Delaware County Pennsylvania of a peace up in the federalists about it today. Can you this
I too was what's going on there, because the video at first glance appears to be to pop
officials in be just being candid about what we see
spiralling to destroy some election equipment, which is kind of weird it is. It is still there
are actually or videos that I received from a source who is involved in or close to some litigation that was just filed late last week in
failure, and there are more videos out there. Boy of the four. There are three
You can really looking at the destruction.
The evidence from the two thousand,
twenty election and just to make clear we're not talking about them
changing the results, but what we're talking about is the material, the backup support being destroyed
show in one of them. You have to individuals talking and one is saying to get rid of some some equipment and the other guy says it's. It's actually pads and scan
and the other gentlemen on DE recording says we can't talk about it when the first, which is why he says it's a felony, and that is the end of the club. But if you look at the law suit,
what's the allegation in there is that there was a whistle blower who was in the room
and after there was a encouragement to have a private conversation.
Has there were other people in Rome and this same into virtual was keeping
some of the other things that were going on, including the destruction of
heat that were showing the results from the voting machines, and all this appears to be triggered.
I am right to know request that was served,
Delaware, county in Pennsylvania. So this is all coming from the allegations that the lawsuit and
those videos were filed. Along with my suit, like to my article, you can.
Watch a selfie other little snippets. They don't have the whole thing there, which would be pre much impact
what did you anyway, but you re there
junction with what the law it is a lodging and it is really disturbing.
We're talking to Margo Cleveland Rights for the Federalist Follower and social media. You can see the videos on our social media account she's on twitter
go. I guess it begs the question and you know it you're a fax person. You do facts, your lawyer, reverse smart. You never get out ahead of you skis, but it just bags
obvious question. If it was
change anything. Then why would you beyond
a a hidden camera.
Recording, but the whistle blower, destroying
lecture these, I mean I'm willing to entertain things? Maybe it's just because you just want to add
piss some people off the island, when I'm gonna give you that Bernie I mean I mean, listen outcomes razor right. We gotta with we gotta what we have to entertain all possible things here and go with the one that has the most parsimony. So what do you think? What are actually
things I and carry out laughing when you sound just the person people off, because some of the elements
Susan and complained actually indicate that
what was going on in other areas that, instead of just handing them
I over a mixed up to make it hard for the people who are actually trying to review it. In my
Why would you do that and really? Why would you do that unless it was to have it off and
angry by the second part of it
why destroy the savages? And this is where one of the videos it's? How can it give their heads in the guy said? Let us stop, has no added value.
In other words- and this is from a source close to this law- shoot that this day Otto would not support their numbers and, like us, towards a fourth video that I didn't discuss.
this article that I'm gonna bring up another time, but it was talking about some,
missing or any kind of improper way cared for, and I should become be chips, but it was basically the data from the computer system was a man. I mean this election was just a mass in this county,
and if you look at video, you can see at the under cliff blooming in on what some of the documents are there things such as that these numbers donated
for one list were missing that show the theory behind this was that they?
getting rid of the evidence that showed that
violated election laws, that they didn't follow the procedures and that
these numbers didn't have the tally, support that they should have had they followed the procedures, so
not necessarily that they will love on, but that it confirmed that Baby
later the election law, you know, Margo
Margo Cleveland Rights for the Federalist about some emerging video, hidden video taken out of Pennsylvania with some really
serious allegations of election
How fees and says you sandwich? You know we don't get out ahead of her skis, Bud
This just seems like
this goes from bad to worse, ripe. So there
obviously election. Woods were lotta shenanigans. Ok, obviously we have millions of mail and balance the first time, corona virus pandemic, all this stuff going on
It's a mania had this illegal change and voting laws. It was clearly unconstitutional right. It was a you think. The best way to clear it up would be to say some like hatred.
Parents, z, sunlight the best this. In fact, in there
obvious problems. We get that, but to show you that it didn't impact the results we're going.
Full, open, Commodo Margo. You can see everything wards in all you'll see this. Yes, there were mistakes. You'll see this. There were errors, yes
There was some confusion, but you will also see this their results, weren't change. They can't even get that right and that what they do is create. They create this downward spiral where we trust them even less, because
time we ask for more information, it results in another collusion attempting conspiracy attempt to shut us off from the information this just
gets worse. The more you try to hide it ties,
I have been one of those heroes worthy the covered is worse than a cry. Who knows exactly why
that would have shown by the hiding.
And what you see on tape is pretty pretty damning NASA to keep in mind here
as we know, this is because someone actually taped it had been made,
these allegations and just file this amount
lost it with no did he or behind it out. Some lack of conspiracy. Theory me and you we all fact checkers would be all over Margo thank check. This is bs speculation and missing context. You know over that would happen of certain media cut. You have I just I view more minutes. I want to get you know more than you are clearly talented, lawyer and just
reaching gears emitted folks, while we reader peace today, the Federalist
Margo Cleveland. It is in
here today about this Pennsylvania, why it's in my news letter, but you know that
complex newsletter or you can go to go to the Federalist and read it. There is well Margo you
here again, your lawyer cow Rittenhouse,
case against Joe Biden
Joe Biden clearly before he was the president. I believe, defamed him by implying directly saying that call Rittenhouse was a white supremacist that
not backed up by the facts, the
think, he has a legitimate case in court. That'll that'll get
ass. They dreaded discovery stage there, where he
potentially win against? They present a United States
Fortunately, not because
courts are gonna, say calling
Someone away, white supremacist is like calling them a racist and most court say
How can one oasis is an opinion? You can't prove it. You can't do this probate. It's not like that
they are discriminated against someone because of their weight show. I dont think you have a case against violence, but really the case against violence should be in court. He should be getting a political punishment. He should be getting them all by the american public, how dear he accused
tat, this teenager of being a white supremacist, though it's disgusting, it's disgusting, Ye Margo, vertical pay back
and listen I'm. This is why I love having people on the show who intellectually stimulate me. Don't just tell the company law, I don't wanna, hear the company line. I want to hear your
actual legal opinion, but, having said
That is this. I mean. Do you see it is a cotton DR case, or do you see it as it depends?
what judge you get. I mean I've been involved in defamation cases where people to me- and I asked
six lawyers, their opinion and got twenty two opinions,
so about the boy did what I mean
the real you think it's cut and dried, or is this? Your opinion is not a very good case. You know, I think that it
more cotton. Try, then not a good case, because I actually recently had done some research on what, if you call him a racist and
the overwhelming majority of cases say calling someone a racist, isn't it
canyon, and that too, is sure very analogous to white supremacist. Now,
have to know what state law applies, I have to go through them work. I dont think that would matter what judge it was because the trial judges can be bound by what the appellate court say is opinion versus back so either most Americans. When you say someone is a white supremacist, they interpret that as a fact
but the Court'S- don't they look at it as an opinion, because how do you put that? What are you gonna do? Bring a man and say: what are you hold this beauty
about you? So I think that it's a pretty cutting dry, that you're, not gonna, have a case on that
All the more reason for us to hit guidance for what he did.
Will you make them pay politically people raise some go. Find me to pay, is defamation fees? What I got thirty seconds, herbage quick thoughts, calling him a murderer, though, is different. Light Tiffany Cross, implied in MSNBC murder. Murders. Illegal term is as you she could. She be in trouble for that. You know that. That's why
Were I not sure, because you know I think I'll Jason murder am I gonna get sued for saying that
So you know I I don't know how their how badly plays out, and I that when I I'm in the middle- and I could go both ways on that- shell, while Margo
Thank you for your informed response.
Opinion I love your writing, will have you definitely have you back you're, a terrific thanks for joining us thanks too much stand. Picking
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