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on the all things coming network in front, a check that out it's a network of powerhouse powerhouse podcast through some very funny comedians. If you ve heard a billboard he's on their tom secure great paper crusher, it's a good one. Army ones are a special commoner. I think in July yeah, and I we should talk as yet think wish will ever montfort. Oh yeah he's got who really matter said the hated him. We change anything yeah. Now people fear change, Ain, T sixty three bouts. Europe. Our lord, as at boats, were invented nicht, its sixtyth, where they nope major general, william rosecrans, was the lump in his arms were tired was the later

they met are me of the cumberland, which was one of the main union armies in the western theatre during the civil war and the western tat says like kentucky issue that was originally called the army of ohio and they change it up to cumberland sure didn't care enough to learn that I didn't. I don't think anybody cares left up, rose and grants is, it rose rose chris. Here's is rosecrans enhances rosen crammed. So that's a little. say rosy. Well, that's actually what we're gonna remit we gotta that grants was nicknamed old rosy. He interrupted getting near to combat than any other man of his rank near near. ihrer. He liked to get in it and eat near like you would get closer than the other. Would generalize he'd be like I'm gonna get up in this shit? Okay, and is that a quote from Rosie? Do you know

just say: oh rosie, there's gonna get all out, but they shared their quotes that are found all the time there can be. No. I wish I hadn't gotten all up at. Let's get right, that's him! Oh Rosie, baby six three, after leaving his troops to a series of victories. He was, after Ulysses, s grant them. Powerful man in the region? man we're spending a lot of time in nashville, ok, which the controlled since february. Eighteen sixty two right old those who believed nashville was a good place for his troops to ready themselves the necks battle. Ok, but I, like any city, there were distractions for the men there now nashville escort the town according to the eighteen, sixty? U s, senses nashville,

was home to a hundred ninety eight white prostitutes in nine who were called mulatto. You hey what happened there. That's just a fund that national funds that the red light district will know like how the set. Does the senses new kit, needle kelp, prostitute them? Apparently? Apparently, no, I'm sure. Now you don't, but apparently the back then back there. And what do you do map out the hard pressed it too? comparison is my no no, no, no! No! No! No! No! No! No don't don't pointed at me. No, no, no, no non stop and get it when I'm turning. My back on you like a dog, take a census right here. No, no, no are there any more Prostitutes in the house only a hundred ninety nine already there,

like district was known as smokey row by one thousand eight hundred and sixty two, the number of sex workers was up to one thousand five hundred and eighteen, six thousand one hundred and ninety eight to one thousand five hundred oh it's a that's! What this is is the silicon valley of prostitutes. Are you Tribes were who were largely about boats and don't worry about it. It's not might be about able, about my come into its that above parts. No damn did you really think you do partners about boat Of course you,

troops who are a long way from their homes, handed over check after check for a good time. Ok for a lot of civil war era, women they didn't have a choice, especially in the south, but become prostitutes. So's checks will that they're getting their their army checks were fighting, and then they do just fuckin program. You make it out to cash. Please do you or use made that make it up to Betty Lou. That is said a man, ruby, toby, so basic. Necessities were unaffordable and the salaries of illicit husbands and fathers didn't covered, and also there the men just were gone. So the women not a lot Job opportunities for ladys, right, zairean,

I think I'm going to go be a lawyer like they just you're like you're supposed to stay in the home. What happens when the guy leaves? I guess I become a prostitute, all right, that'll do and so yeah a lot of them are forced into it and that way economic issues, a prostitute and a major you, a city at the time, could earn earn about five dollars a week, which is about three What you might make if you worked like a solely of agri right, so that the newspapers often refer to prostitutes as abandoned women. by the spring of eighteen. Sixty three rosy and his staff were very upset about what effect all the prostitute sex. He is having on the men who ago tsar it's always one ass. All is just not enough All rosy was worried about diseases. He was worried about disease.

Syphilis gunnery want, Japan is to get all rolling. Its efforts save wasn't gonorrhea were very dangerous at the time sure because they could kill you. Yes, at least eight point: two percent of ye new troops would be infected with one or the other. for the end of the war and the rates in cities were much higher. Okay cause, if you're out, if you're out, shooting other guys on the battlefield it's hard to get gonorrhea right, but if you're in a city fuckin. Ladies, it's easier, it's easier to get it right. It turns out it's weird: it's when you're gone, it's harder to get, Maria cape cod, yeah and, and the stats also don't include those who picked up v d and didn't tell anyone or died before they. may rightly has got gonorrhea imagined, you're out there in a

and you ve got gunnery and they get killed like the likely to have to go. I think my last words would be. Thank you. Thank you, thank god, almost air, Rebuilding I gotta area in nashville, then turn into a hospital saw the schools or hospital hospitalized dishes, packed with wounded guys round the war. So no one wants to spend time then energy, treating guys vd. Ok, they're, like you, know those guys actual gunshot, ass, ok, take him over the my penis building. Please help it will not have taken place at union officials in nashville were convinced. The city's sex workers were responsible for the baby plague surgeons and regimental commanders petitioned old, the quote: to save the army from a fate worse than to perish on the battlefield, so that generally,

I want a pause here and just say that getting gonorrhea is not worse than dying with your intestines out on a battlefield, yeah! No, I mean it seems way better. It's you a lot better number one you had sex for it to happen. Sure number to eat. There's it's pretty rough at this time, but you can get cured. But it's a rough. You can't there's like mercury that they give you like it's theirs. That movements yeah yeah well, mercury just kills everything. It's like it's like it's dangerous. Yes, I good. I remember when I was a kid. I my dad broke a thermometer and he was so freaked out by the american yeah ground, yeah, okay, so he I'm I'm the one who was eaten it, so they came up with what they was the easiest solution to the prostitute problem. Well, something tells me Dave. This is gonna, be a logical

old rosy issued an order on July eighteen, sixty three to george spalding, the provost marshal of nashville. To quote Without loss of time, seas and transport to louisville all prostitutes found in the city or known to be here, they all ship 'em out shipment to Louisville. They all shipment to Louisville, where there was a prostitute, send them to no avail. Why are we go into louisville get on the bus? Ma'am? Just trust me. It's going to be good. I mean this is a theory that has happened before on this podcast, where someone's theory is essentially just send them out. Yeah yeah, it still goes on, still happens. Oh yeah especially deal with homeless now, a black leather theory. Now, how does one the? How does one nor the war no interesting spalding?

it was a scottish immigrant started carrying out the order. I've got this one. On July, ninth, I'm bringing him to life at the nashville daily press reports that the roundup of the quote sinful fair, had begun. Oh boy, the women were not thrilled about the plan and they protested and tried to avoid the expulsion soldiers and police officers went on arrayed of the city's brothels, quote heaping furniture out of the various dens and then tumbling their disconsolate owners after. Why did they have to throw? I don't know I don't need them must be the place. I don't know whether thrown chairs at the window. You don't get that on them. Get it out of the titans intolerable may move that signal

It doesn't make any sense, but that they did furniture first prostitutes right now that you're all moved out So spalding rounded them all up, and then he had enough but then he didn't know how to how to send them off or how to get rid of them. That is how do you enter your plan? If you don't have been, I know it's not great Then he came up with the answer when he met John newcomb, who is the owner? of a brand new steamboat. yeah, oh named the idaho? Well, that's an interesting boat to be putting the prostitutes. I d, a age o ye, oh wow, so high the whole weight, but so I hope he really

like that there was with the name of the boat was idaho. What are you looking for a man? How and what do you do at a house Sorry, What are you looking at her? What are you doing in how to help ships over there Then spalding with old roses, backing ordered newcomb to take the idaho on its maiden voyage he's it's never sailed. Bird had taken it happen is never it's war. Time of day. So you pack about philoprogenitive guy just has a whole boat and he's just happens to be the day and voyage he's gonna papas cherries with a bunch of whim, well

Originally he didn't have a hobo, but then then they turn into hobo hope I hope so he supposed to take a hundred eleven of nashville, most infamous sex work, and how does it happen that they are forced to do it? Well, I just I just had no option well, during wartime, it's you know best. We martial law in this kind of situation. Let you just do what address as wines perpetual war. Thank you, spalding didn't care, are they were dropped off just so long as they were gone. Cool newcomers upset. Believing the order would destroy the reputation. It was new steamboat I mean just think of how unreliable that don't worry about the reputation them esteem, but you can't rule a sweetener steamboat. No, no, no! It's names on the line, but he wasn't given a choice. It was given rations for the women enough to make it just to Louisville.

Other than that he was on his own. The local press, love the story and encourage readers to quote bid good bye to those frail sisters once and all the battle. The media is always them not much is known about. The prostitutes were banished from nashville, but all eleven women, the eye? were white and assent, They left nashville their black counterparts took their places in the cities, brothels and alleys. Reverse gentrification yeah That's true, the nashville daily union quote the sudden is the thing: that's the same, like the war on drugs, it's like that in a when there's an appetite for something in the public that people want. You know you just you have to find a way to incorporated endear yet whirled over try to stamp it out, which is just gonna make make, can never set to fill it

in their recent book that the sudden expatriate expatriation of hundreds of vicious white women will only make room for an equal number of negroes trumpets, strumpf it's. This is what the paper says unless the aggravated curse of letter. We as it exists among the negress is of the town is destroyed by rigid military, some wizards block or what you can along. Like this, if you have a staff in your hand, there's a storm or the indiscriminate expulsion of the guilty sex, the ejectment of the white class will turn out to have been productive the sin it was intended to eradicate. We dare

They know sit in the country has been more shamefully abused by the conduct of its on chest: females, white and negro than has nashville for the past fifteen or eighteen months you translate. But that means to me so there are basically saying now looking ass. They got rid of the white prostitutes and then it was just there were just replaced by black prostitutes. They just need to get rid of all of them. What that's what it say, yeah! What's a wildcat says, I guess it's business was the

It's it's. The luxury of the of the black presence is destroyed by military, solar mandates. The saying it that's the same thing can happen. Only sounds extremely racist, because that's just how people talked will they decide that there also, instead of just saying the new prostitutes there d be no now get down with the racing came up with some nice terms,. the idle reach louisville in a week by german. No, are you joy to see? What's on about. here hear my land hose ago? By the time the ship got there The city's law enforcement officials had heard what was coming. Newcomers forbidden from docking and or to go to Cincinnati instead, okay, so now what were ok say: who pours listen. I've got some news.

For once this is gonna, be something you're not Oh you're with were not allowed to put our ship where we want to do our vessel, so we need to go to sit and anti, but we're out of food and rations. Areas. Obey amateur settle appeared since I am in Louisville. But when they got to ohio cincinnati informed him, they did not want a cargo hookers. So now they ve just made like tv, so horrible yeah, they ve just made you make love, but the ship. two was the ship was forced to dock across the river in kentucky, but all the women were required to stay on the boat, but wait where were they were, for they were rather in Cincinnati and they have to dock across the river and the dogs. Saw. The women are order on the boat stand about the same time since that exact quote, there is not so

to be much desire on the part of our authorities to welcome such a large additions through the already overflowing number Engaged in their peculiar profession, so old grows plan literally was three parts and all he thought of was part. Given him ground them up drink and put them on that would get rid of depth and shit. Luckily, to find a bow. As far as now that they've got a boat people like not going to just drop off a bunch of whores while they're there they're happy in nashville, because as far as their concern, the harshest all right, ok right, but still this damsel shanghaied. So, There also not being permitted to land that the vote has taken over the kentucky shore, but the authorities of newport and coming to have no greater desire for their company and the consequences that the poor girls are still kept on board the boat. It is said

on what authority. We are unable to discover that the military order issued in nashville has been revoked in washington and that they will all be returned and national again said just a little vague, hey, look crows across the store that cross the state the cleveland morning, leader, was thrilled about what was happening in Cincinnati and wrote that the women tried to swim ashore, while others were rumoured to have made contact with confederate soldiers who might help them escape. I mean, can you imagine like being in this time at hearing this mean? Are you guys although it is sure there's a war swim into, what are you talking about was amazing. It was just wars, just beautiful women swimming how they wanted was to be rescued. There went nine wet

I think I met my wife. I realize that it has ebbed whiskies, but I really I met the one. I met your wife, so The cleaning morning, leader of the majority, are homely forlorn, a set of degraded creatures, having been hurried on the boats By a military guard, many are without a change of wardrobe. They manage to smuggle a little liquor on board, which gave out on the second day several became, intoxicated and indulged in a free fight which resulted

That material damage to any of the party, although knives, were freely used. So, ladies ladies, be fighting. Well I mean what what yeah yeah there's going to be tension when you tell a bunch of people, they can't live where they live and let's face it. If you're a prostitute. This time, you're, probably pretty tough lady yeah, I would yeah you'd. Probably yeah you'd, probably keep your eye out for bullshit that newcomers now desk to get the women off his ship and he returned to louisville and once again he was turned away. Come on seven june, we told you know I know, but what about do? I tell you that the lady parts hold on a minute. Sweden and the party autonomy. Yet now get out of here bottles and does not get any

We don't get at it. He tried other small ports, but the result was the Finally, an early august, the ship returned to nashville now All they had all the prostitutes back in a huge bill from newcomb dim hand it to me compensated for damages tuition, go exactly according to plan and look a couple of the prostitutes stabbed each other style, one another we change yet the sense and nazi they said. No, so there were no other guys quiet, tat, terrible it all out of it. I don't care about where we ve got a clause that nuclear think I've got an idea yeah, I'm here, that's how that have in four or five of this week,

as I said at the same time, do separate occasions, while one time there was two, but that was all the way to liquor day as we call it, although I didn't like or don't take it that way, but now did you leave yes, so he wants to become say that any money he demanded, someone from the army come on board to inspect the ship for damages. I just remember this is the guy who didn't want his ship name soiled yet so, yeah go on it smells he just he just said. Take it out on the road for what like ten days on, I think it's like a month. Oh my god, just be ruined. Combat is terrible. So the army.

Staffer on august eighth found the ship stateroom had been quote badly damaged The mattresses away again at a badly damaged the mattresses ruben the soil budget cut. I sleep, one needs the soil. Third party, plus Jake's healthy, filthy horse.

The report recommended newcomb be paid. One thousand in damages, plus four thousand three hundred to cover food. Okay and quote medicine peculiar to the diseased women in this class, Newcombe had been forced to pay that amount during the twenty eight day, floating hooker boat run twenty eight days. Twenty eight days there were only three crew members besides him well because they probably were like alright in and out real quick fumble in and chop them up. Don't do this for sure in and out stuff little deal but better than the dunno. If we are not in a way, but spalding did not care about newcomers. Money problems, his plan to get rid of the city's prostitutes was a failure. He finally acquiesced and accepted the fact that prostitutes would ply their trade and soldiers would be their customers spalding, seeing no other choice created

it created nashville's first system in the country for legalized prostitution, wow, okay, the plan was simple: each prostitute would register herself get a five dollar license that allowed her to work, as she pleased by a doctor, approved by the army would examine prostitutes each week and the women would pay pay him fifty cents for so smart. Yet it seems reasonable, yes, whims. What that little jaunt just did is double the prostitution population well, Nashville, where you can also see like if it was crazy, expensive, because it's a almost impossible plan to just deport prostitutes like yeah. But again I mean yeah. You know you what you do is it's going to happen: yeah, yeah, yeah! You accept that it's going to happen, and you find you know the the

best way to entice people to do do what makes sense for that black women who had venereal disease will be sent to a hospital established for the treatment of this type of elements. They would then pay for their treatment weekly. Gauging in prostitution without a license or failing to appear for schedule exams, would result in arrest and the jail term of thirty days. One bowl rat one boat rat, the sex workers were delighted with the idea of plying their trade without fear of arrest or prosecution by early eighteen. Sixty four three hundred and fifty two women were licensed while another hundred had been successfully treated for syphilis and other conditions they picked up in their work? Tell me why this all falls apart. A few months later, one doctor the hospital remarked on the quote, marked improvement of the health of the licence prostitutes. He noted that at the beginning of legalization,

the women used crudely crude language and did little to care for their personal hygiene. soon. They were virtual models of gloom, innocent of undisguised buff and the stats out. No, they stop swearing of in disguise. Play like? Oh? No, they stop swearing. They used to come in and say that may in fact me and now they're like hello, it's like the poster, says clean vagina, clean mouth. By the way I made that poster Yes, I was going to say that wasn't there earlier and his had written right, it's a prank! Well, I've taken it applied line. Sinker a new york times reporter who came to the city was also very He said? The girl you're always are clean this one up and my colleague don't you forget about it. He said the expenses of the programme from September two june kindred,

just over six thousand, while the income from the taxes on the quote. Lewd women reached fifty nine hundred once fearful, the law, particularly military law, given the treatment they had received, nashville prostitutes. took to the system of almost much with almost as much enthusiasm as those operating at one doktor wrote that they felt grateful to no longer have to turn to quacks in charlatans, for expensive and effective treatments and eagerly showed potential customers their licences. Right. No luck! I'm ready to go and be grateful, was undercover. Actually, I am a whore ban. Major general, william rosecrans leader of the army of cumberland, had a problem away. This just repeat itself, so, if you know just never and like every

they don't under the it, is so strange the idea of how we try to eat. You know like in that era, if you're a woman- and you up you, because you are a you know- you are like you- are working in the sex industry- the the idea that they're going to be able to stop you out and then- and I am sure this all fall apart. But this is what in our world all the time where there's a version that makes sense and people just because of dumb, hang ups I like now turn and I can't because the bible, or whatever their vaginas for something that is there to have something that it loves come inside. Imagine that makes it is the rules if the roles

I can't, and men and men were were more like men were prostitutes like women, yet women were how quickly would be legally dead, who hind leg in a heartbeat, yeah yeah yeah in orbit so either there were less three walkers more women working in brothels, and even Attitudes on the north came to the city, who are looking for safer working conditions, a sif, leduc hospital was opened that filled up so quickly. They couldn't accept any more patients from other hospitals. That's a bummer when they put up the rope at this. clinic, but this period for health and wonderment was not long for the world after the war. ended and nineteen in eighteen, sixty, five and national was no longer under control. The union army licences for prostitutes stop being a thing course does it.

Day was just because it was under military control, the military. It was just trying to make things as smooth as possible and then, as soon as the military was gone and then religion return was, of course, All rosy made a technical error that caused the union army thousands of lives at the battle of chicken magua sheriff s family idle and he was relieved of his command by ulysses. Grant he finished or as commander of the department of Missouri when the war ended. He took up politics and eventually ended, observing a california district in congress in the eighteen eighties, John Newcomb was the most skirt of them all tears after the idaho made its power. did he voyage he still had not been reimbursed by the government we submitted his claim directly to edward stand, the secretary of war, and he was, given the money he was owed and certification that

Removal of the national prostitutes had been quote necessary and for the good of service locked does mike certificate. That says, I only transport, boatloads of prostitutes. What I have to just wanted to keep his. ship integrity, saw a memo about totally soiled and that each spotted a little like congratulations certificate. You goodbye its staples yet did he just one little some well look at that that that's just these certificate. That says it was a good idea to try to get all the prostitutes out of town, even though work inside the name of the vessel, but the idaho would not. Crews hers of the. U s again quote I told them it would Everyone ruin reputation is a passenger boat. It was done.

is now incense known as the floating whore out. Well, not loading method that you ruined the popped up no one to go on the poor guy he's the real dictum yeah. Well, you know like we said earlier. If you create conditions for any like anybody where, based on something that is out of their control, their options are limited. You can't get upset the cause and effect of something, so

You know I like you, you leave someone no option right there, and this is a minister that it's the same shit in what you know. It's the same ship was selling drugs shit. If you, if you have no opportunity- and you need make name your belly. Then you'll do whatever you can do whatever you can yeah so either fix the fucking condition. It's a cool thing is the plane. You create that system where people desperately need money, you don't have proper safety nets and then, when they get chubby, you can put them in for pr for profit prisons hobbies at all, I mean for the most. It all comes down to proper present, but still I mean that it really is. It's like. you just have like a nine way race. For you know, history, a movie just continue does not know everybody gets factor, except for one class up really yeah. I could not least for one.

it is happening right now, we're just like what it's all you had sex down it. Well, yes, but so we we sign prostitutes. Oh did you know that the timing? Did you know that the timing of the over one was gonna, be so explosive kind of you? Did you The report was coming up. I was there, I mean, as neither reporting beside a rushing like like a lion. I was rushing yeah fisher, yeah. I knew that any of this I was going to collapse on it so funny cause it happened. I was like damn I don't want to freak you out, but I think you might have just taken down to uber. Nowhere tiny that the amount of bad press they're getting from other places

you gotta be sued, unlike number one, all those sorts of those things that we set our source, but also their getting hit from every fucking direction, like they're, getting slammed left and right, yeah. The leather nodded that, what's that, what's the mega name Travis! What's this kallenbach? He. In others rough weeks and then there's nothing, but I loved it. What's your name, ariane huffington, trying times The waters sanity possessed always meditating, he's meditating. Now in the lactating room at the office and elect lactation room, and then it turns out that all these silicon valley bag, you know guys, take, turns an electrician rooms and fuck em. Then there's all story about that now, because silicon valley

They made a democracy to serve. People use the lactation a four year: players, silicon valley for monsters. We sign prostitutes right yeah. I set it.