Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the journey of Lincoln's body.
Based on "After The Funeral - The Posthumous Adventures of Famous Corpses" by Edwin Murphy
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the show right, bark layer, Dave, Anthony, reads: a story from american history to a guy named Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. It's really taken on a life of it's own. True, as what true one statement you just made, yeah it's taken on a life yeah. These intros are no
know anything about it, but what the story yeah! I don't have any idea what the topics and really yeah really yeah. You know I have you, sent me anything
Do you want to look at the one that people say this is clearly not gary garrett dave, okay, someone or something is tickling is firefighter, and this is not going to come particularly clock. Gosh yeah, we moved uptown. All our way of life bell a bunch of religious virgins, go to mingle and do what ray well done. My friend the
hi rely. We thought or doing this from a hotel in Washington DC, which
I would describe as outside of the hotel room.
A fiery help at boiling help it of piss sounds pretty accurate. That's why we're not going outside
because no liking temperature. He hey April fool.
teeth. Eighteen, sixty five
Abraham lincoln, was assassinated by John wilkes booth. Who was an actor right actors.
Are bad case that you're an actor. That's the end of this
Well, I will. I realized, I actually did know. There's one doktor edward Curtis performed an autopsy about four hours after lincoln die, but it was pretty obvious what had killed him tat, the hat, a gram of skull, fragments, seven small pieces, lord and some bloody bandages, as well as the doctors, bloody cuff, ok, which he apparently
Rollo were saved so he was like thinking of going back to the play. I dont know why and why you wouldn't role of your coffee if, if, if you're getting into
india getting in the lincoln, a new doc you series getting into lincoln
these these pieces, these things, these items eventually made their way to the national museum of health and medicine in Washington DC. They are still on display. Today. Ok fire to address all parts,
the lincolns us going. I see a sculptor yeah seemed a little barbaric, yeah yeah, I mean cable.
oh, the selfies people. Can you see all of the fragments, though I didn't slap. I think I'm just going to have to only show five, so I can get my whole head.
So people were pretty of set by the president being killed, sure sure, most of them anyway right
Some were happy. Is shit, ok
Public tributes some memorials were held in towns across the country sure we're morning at this point a morning absent,
Yep congressional leaders wanted lincoln buried in a ceremonial vault under the capitol did. You know we had that? No, we got a meat locker down. We've got a crypt that was originally built to put george washington in, but his family wouldn't allow it because george want to be buried at his home property. He was sure I don't want to be buried under the capitol world. You jokers yeah, no just drain me of blood and burial.
Am I land thank you yeah, so the vaults under congress remained empty. Intel, lincoln's, wife and son decided to take lincoln back to springfield illinois where he grew up. So it was he in the two. Now
No, but they made a kind of radon, and I just I don't know I don't think so. You know that was so it's empty in their like, let's put it fuck and lincoln in theirs and washington.
Then the lincolns and wife? What has all we're not gonna were also pass air, so they decided Brigham, ferryman, springfield illinois attack where he was born right, whose it was born. I can tell you, but then move to illinois batteries wreak at three became a man. That's our aid lincoln doubt as we link is as we that's when he was like a flock of those in the mustache. It just go at chin. He went fully get at that point.
the hat, but do that alertness effectively? Wrestled like the whole thing is just remember doing at a look. He fucking Russell
told ya. Yeah I used to wrestle. He was like a wrestler. He would go travel around from town to town and late
garden. Have I got that right? Oh the fans, don't like what leg gets. Do it as dib I'll look at that referendum and say that it's got a brand. It would be so great if
he if he even threw his presidential years just want to solve everything by wrestling. Well, I think the best thing for us to do is move the desk. Take our shirts off and figure this out like men and talking about slate
free and how why we believe my continue
montana receivers, laboring, restaurant or not you personally, and I like you.
I think that I wonder whether people next door to us in this hotel rustic as he does not agree
so congress decided if they couldn't put lincoln in the awesome vault downstairs, then everyone should get a look. Everyone should get to look at the vault or look at lincoln. Look at me. I want to get a look at link yeah. They want
is it a funeral train to carry lincoln's body back to illinois with public ceremonies along the way in major cities? It's always so weird to me, yeah,
smile anita had already- and I know you see the out- you don't need unless it unless it will make up it's a relative and you like, I want closure and whenever it like, I told you that I learned but a present like a dude or there was. I was watching them in other documentary thirteenth than they like to have an open casket for this kid who got beaten so badly, sorted, sort of like shocks, people into recognising a problem, but there's spoiler, sorry, spoiler. Sorry I shouldn't does we can cut that out, but but the but the purpose.
just seeing it to see it as just like who, what the oh look at him, look at him, really dead, very dead. So luckily, at the time of his death wash.
In DC, was the center of the new and bombing movement. Oh my god, the new technique of bombing by injecting chemicals wave. It's it's it's,
the gear shift
yeah. No, it's about lincoln, oh no! It's about the god evolving. It was first patented in eighteen, fifty six by a washington DC resident other people jumped on board with their own fluid embalming patents. Most of these happening.
Do you see, I guess, home, of storing a body while bombing I've been happening to get soldiers home to their families for burial during the war, it is not really hit the mainstream sure. Ok, so just kind of a hollywood thing now,
We want a good, altruism bombs on goop. Yes, she goops shares above the girl, said: she's got a whole hombre home embalming get a holding with meant. Are we were we read? We embalmed the kids with we, then we, and once they had found
We embalm so now. The preservation of abe lincoln led to tons of publicity
oh and bombings taken a hot trend of people
learned that his corpse would be embalmed which would allow it to make the two week train trip back to illinois with justice,
tiny bit of rotting. It's still a little much for me.
Any writing is too much from well there's a natural
rotting process. Sure yeah, that's kind of why you don't take out bodies on tour. Well, it took five.
days to get everything arranged for the train trip. In the meantime,
lincoln's body lay in state
in an open casket at the white house. This okay you're out there putting the train trip. How was these things occurred and that, like a washington to me, has become like Mr Magoo after this podcast and now
you got lincoln's dead body in an open cask, attainable in the wide extra caregiving joan people, crews and up checking. Twenty five thousand people came to the white house to ceiling
and it's just sitting in the illicit is it yo,
but I was sitting I have spoken in the wine. A casket is not lay on the floor.
Why be nice to prop up at the desk with a pen and a bill? What have they just stuck him in that cheese,
there was then he two hours after five days is a two hour long military prayed. You can add the dinner with the dead.
is it in for one hundred dollars that the parade escorts the body from the white house to the capitol. Then the body was placed in there for public viewing the entire next day. Okay, so now we're six days and finally, on April twenty first seven days after he was shot, lincoln's body was taken to the baltimore and ohio railroad depot.
A special train of eight cars had been assembled lincoln's presidential car, which he used to travel to visit. The troops now contained his corpse sure put him where he knows yeah, let him yeah let him be comfortable yet, and the course of his son willie, who had died three years earlier, had been dug up for this special trip to ride. With his dead father to their new dead burial burial place a few states away, so they dug up the boy. Okay, so be clear. Yep
lincoln dead. Seven days, is on the train. His son willie killed three years prior, dug up your tensely embalm
our position, the body after three years very much, but I don't think they're shown of willie. I think that really is in the box. I think they just
godiva, shoddy gate, shred jolly, but he's not open. That's just not open that caskets, that's a close costs because you can't open at sea
I really am just over. I think I've already weakened a burning, the stir in my head and picturing. You know them waving. Will this is gonna end with willie riding on top of the train right right, nail, its fate,
There's that moment when they realise the train is too close to the overpass gotta. So
billion like on the trail. First, stop was a baltimore. Thousands
democracy, lincoln's body. Like I don't know, I couldn't.
I got how they do it physically, but I guess they. Maybe they prop it up in the back of the train or people go through the train car or maybe they take it out that they take.
I rather taken out to I love the idea that their propping up in the back, though right, but my guesses
The train went on hairs. I'm gonna see willie. Now,
is the one I wanted to see, which show me.
sure with a boy, cried marketing wow, how
he's still so josie Anna huge fan headlong
sure
This week, the tribune onto harrisburg, new york, philadelphia, albany, buffalo, cleveland Columbus, any nablus and Chicago everywhere. Drought, led zepplin crowds came out. It's a fucking tour man. I mean that's a legit tour
a man who booked it, but they do it's a nice tore it can. We get shirts made of the lincoln death torn and all the cities they have fuck yeah. We. How can you not places the train? Didn't stop people gathered on the sides of the tracks with their hats off and heads bout, sure farmers stop working in their fields as the train went by nice. The other was very gesture.
All of them here take a thirty second breather. The journey ended on may third in springfield twenty
one days corpse tore the core
store that so we call it yet
Abraham lincoln corpse tour cleveland,
tat. All the heads come check out the opening bad, the fragments, the leaders of springfield
lincoln to be barely during waylayest sat on DR loomis.
The tenor of the city, so in springfield their got big plans. A merry learns like now we're not we're not his tired from the total.
She just wanted and buried in the new cemetery. The tangled outrage at the edge attach the norm all share in front of such nice. He was placed in a temporary evolved on may the fifth, until a more fitting mausoleum could be built, a K industry,
One thousand eight hundred and sixty five lincoln was transferred to another, specially constructed vault, as the national lincoln memorial was being built. It took nine years to finish the monument okay
seventy one. Whenever we how? How long has he been? He still not buried, no he's an avant now, so they took in springfield. They put him and of all our years ago, by now
six years and as these in the temple temple. Ok in the tenth fault, temp, ok,
lincoln had to be moved to another.
Temporary vault, and then at that point he was real identity. I'd put into a new coffin during the move to switch coffins. They make sure it was still linking share. Cuz, you never know
Yeah know you got it. You want to get into body where's, really that we stop timer willie
It doesn't come up anymore. You really got not a president. I like really not important. I want him. I want him updates on willie. Is that lightning can't be lightning? I think it's just big trucks move and dumb shit after they finished the memorial, so they finish the lincoln memorial. They went to put the iron coffin into the sarcophagus okay, so it's closure time only to discover they'd built the sarcophagus too small.
In a coffin didn't fit. That is awkward. That is really I mean that the conversation you have with the contractors yeah it's not great for by fate, where it should take another two, three years at least to get that right.
so they move lincoln's body into a smaller coffin. This one
red cedar line with let this many had to be formerly identified again. There must be some sort of rule that whenever you take a blot out of a coffin
gotta identify the president. I ain't airport embodies the adverse schmo like you,
yeah nobody's nobody's nobody, nobody needs
Then, if I like either way on october, fifteenth eighteen, seventy four present grant formerly dedicated the national lincoln monument. The construction had taken place twice had taken twice as long as the civil war lincoln was finally laid to rest hooker
or was he obviously big, Jim committee had a different idea. What anytime anywhere name
gems getting in the good trouble, and I could big gmos
counterfeiter, among other things a year after them
argument was finished is mastering graver. Benjamin boyd was put in prison for ten years of the secret service, had confiscated all of boys engraved plates a different era and can easily couldn't replaced. The work of boyd. Ok is too good. He believes.
the best engrave. What does either mastering graver he's the master engraver we look out here. I really think there's a thunderstorm lights on going on what we might die here then happen. You know what there's a weather thing that happens.
Where, where clouds come through and they contain rain and electricity, touching me further doktor, ok, so boys in jail. This is blowing my mind and
can can easily. This can easily fella needs, he needs a guy's good sure or he needs boyd. So he wants to spring void. So he must go
the prison before all the counterfeit money runs out the deed already at printed right. The notes made by boys plates were so
good that the EU s treasury had once been forced to withdraw all five dollar bills from circulation to change their designed to protect from boyd's, fake bills, ok
now clearly had heard about a plan to steal lincoln's body in eighteen, sixty five pullet for political reasons, some love someone just thanks. That's a real socket area guy they might have. I mean I could see that being the thing we're going to make him a Democrat Jeez days on your lap scale. It is very loud thunder.
I so putting two and two together can easily realized. He could steal lincoln's body and ransom it for the release of boy. That is really odd leverage and he was also going to ask for two hundred and twenty thousand in cash. So we I'm sorry yeah go ahead to be clear. He is now going to take a dead body hostage, yep, a president that not just anyone is going to take liquids.
all the important body, the money part, is really like. That's where it gets even more. That's where it gets too absurd when it just asked for cash, and then you have cash in than that's all you're bodily valid being gay Zactly. Yet you can't you didn't greedy, do what you're counterfeiter orders,
what the monolithic the moment. The money so clearly sent five men
to open a saloon in springfield ohio as affront. Ok, the plan was this
the other body on July. Third, eighteen, seventy six and hide it in the saloon.
The beer seller got the. I mean the of the plant. This is like a todd phillips fill. Well now we are really a weekend at Bernie's yeah. I we'll put away the liquor is, but the leader bragged about the awesome plan to steal the ex president's body to a town brothel owner
Well, you you, I mean, you know, he would think that that guy would have tight lipped, who told the sheriff
The man ran out of town to avoid being arrested. The amount of things that get screwed up by just being unable to contain your enthusiasm,
your caper, please leave it'll just be about like it
Ninety nine shut up shut up it. Do it put your head data? Do your work, you wanna, be
you want to go down the history books as and then they never discovered yet who here's? What you want? You don't want anything in the history books ever. Those are the heroes so not want to give up can easily tried again. He went chicago and brought in two of his men,
terence molen and jack hughes. The new plan was to steal lincoln's body during
election night on november, seventh, eighteen, seventy six I mean this is its. They figured everyone in springfield, be so caught up in the election
they wouldn't be out. The cemetery. Looking for thieves, the best knight to steal link, I mean it's the perfect weather
as to the dam, we're going to do it on election night thunder yeah, plus they figured with so many people, people coming back from the polls and in town in their wagons. That would give them cover with their stolen corpse wagon.
so a figurative and literal cover. I mean I assume it if you're in a wagon, not on a bit
night that suspicion. You got the president in no
What a way for you to be riding a wagon on a night that I, that of the election god dammit. Yes, we do it, god, damn it yeah. Your mistake was not doing this on november, the savage yet yeah. What days I don't know, you're the first guy I've talked to in two months
it gets so lonely
the plan was once they got out of town there. We're gonna, take it too.
Miles away and buried under dunes in northern indiana figure,
The shifting sands would hide their tracks.
I also would I wear the fucking body wire sure for shifting dunes mean you can actually
where's my leg in
where's my leg and that's the movie, but apparently
someone in on the plan was talking again because it leaked ok. First, Robert todd lincoln was Tom. He worked as a large car.
Sure then, the secret service in indianapolis learned of the plan where we still have to defend lincoln
Amanda, didn't we already not do this good once? Well, let's go forward again. You know daddy second chance boys work outside the president bush that already the secret service, though there wasn't a secret service bergman,
ok, they're leaving urges he just signed it that day, art or the day before some like you or is about to he just like the secret service, the guards actually watch. The president that whole idea was like right around the time. Well. Well, so the secret service in chicago ordered a paid in former and penny criminal to infiltrate camelias gang and find out about the pot. Ok,.
The inform I am looking to join up with a group of baddies. Hey fellas. Is anybody here looking to steal a body I'll have a whiskey boy? I just wish. I could find someone to get the president's body with me eh. What's this guy talking about it looks like that will never happen. You know hey
who me it's amazing. You came into this by hand.
I don't want no trouble pale, no trouble with stealing lincoln's body. Well I'll, join up with you guys squirrel in so he had no trouble getting in mostly because here experience as a grave robber when he supplied medical schools with bodies. Well, it covered this. It's nice to see some world friends the informer kept the secret service informed about the block kay the secret service want to catch the gang in the act, because it would be hard to convict them on the basis of just the plot. Well, I think you were it's hard to prove some things, but conspiracy to take a zombie lincoln is certainly up there. The plan was to catch them in the
can charge them of burglary, interesting interesting when the train for springfield what the informer milan and hughes left chicago. They had no idea the bat car was full of secret service agents, pinkerton agents and other detectives
election night. The law men head inside the halls of the lincoln monument normal in total darkness,
And then the gang arrived three hours later. Ok, the informer was posed to signal that was loud.
Close and we'll do it our election night,
It's good there were times the coroner's, lightning,
you were indeed see, there's light and heat we're talking about getting lincoln, so the gang
Three hours later, the informer was posted signally agents when the gang broke in, but he couldn't get far enough away from them to do it. What
the signal I didn't know. I couldn't figure that out, maybe young pacemaker,
No, that's what you do come in with you. I should, but you guys know my hobby as I love to make bird noise, especially at night when it is our carve a guess. I see a bird I replicated between or whatever the bug it's called.
Huh.
then you ve got a burger. Is that better.
wait for his signal. The birds out here are weird wait for a second thank god, although we're not moving until we get a signal gentleman,
hold that whole gentlemen.
If we just wait for a signal, gentlemen could go, I think that was it. Let's go so back pull back so he's trying to get away from them to make the signal he had to wait until they had gotten into the crypt pried open the sarcophagus. Oh, my god. They got far and started
dragging the coffin out and then that's where he could get away. Ok, autonomy is running to get the wagon. Ok,
He ran outside into the dark and then run
the other side of the monument or the secret service agent, the main
he could service agent was the leader, the
a man then charged to the door of the crypt. This is insane
one accidently fired his gun recharge. Ok, that guy's affectionately collided attic guys a fuck yeah when they got there more than
he was were gone because they decided to wait outside for the informer debris.
Wagon, so he leaves and says just get the wagon. Then they go off. I got let's go outside and wait farm okay and then the cops are charging one of them shoots off his gun and they go. Let's go right so dark that no one can see in rain.
So, as soon as they heard the first shot they took off into the darkness of the limits are running an exotic you'll like it again.
It's a running around the cemetery trying to find these two guys and it's so dark they're only seeing each other and they start shooting at each other. Ok, okay! So how how the plane's not going great? But luckily no
guy killed right because their terrible shots. These also super dark,
secret service and pinkertons were then roasted in newspapers for the embarrassing steak I share chicago papers even speculated. It was faked for some unknown political
because they couldn't fathom why else at how nobody's this done, that you're gonna take that out to that's right. It was a conspiracy, no way we're not that stupid.
But more than use were arrested, charged and convicted on the informers testimony. Okay, so they could have done it all along right. They got a year in jail. Each can easily was not implicated at all, but he was put in prison for years later for counterfeiting,
After that, lincoln's friends and family secretly removed his coffin from the crypt and hit it.
Various places in the monument because they were that affair,
another tele freaked out at some askance deals body.
So now and other hiding it now. The family and friends are now hiding there like scooby doing,
lincoln around. I made monument they're doing it all over the minded, thereby cutting pudding. Endeavour puts it's just.
So for eleven years, people would go to the monument pay, the respects to an empty vault, but not knowing that he was hidden in the thereafter he's in the attic he's in his own pants and lincoln.
than eighty and eighty seven, the legged monument, neither repair and war
to be remodelled,
there, are already many rumours that the corpse in the coffin was not lincoln's because of everything that happened so once again the coffin was open, so could be identified. I mean that's. What can we stop opening lincoln's coffin? He was described, as quote somewhat too shrunken. Oh,
despite the repairs
that's. What happens? We're all gonna be be somewhat and some day, despite all the repairs by now,
How did the monument was again in disastrous shape? Well, but for that to be almost completely rebuilt
Lincoln and his entire family were then removed and put into a temporary hole in the ground
The family had no idea. I want a regular burial, faintly night tons of stone based on tops and no one would steal, and after
year. In April, nineteen o one legume was moved back into the monument, but because of concern he was taken on september and identified.
That without opening him, this was the fifth time lincoln's corpse was identified. We ve got it one worker cut a small hole in lincoln's coffin. Twenty two local citizens checked out the body. One of them brought his thirteen year old kid that kid turned out. Fine, I'm sure, and it was lincoln. They remarked that the remains looked quote like a
On statue, that is so growth that is so proud, but likud son was still worried me mamma fight.
I think they're, looking like caramel with a beard, I'm assuming the bill,
I stuck around also now I'm kind of hungry, but lincoln's son was still worried. Someone would try to snatch the body he arranged for the coffin to be encased in steel bars, sunk, ten feet beneath the floor and covered with tons of cement to date. Abraham lincoln has remained there, but there were still seven tiny pieces of his skull. Thank god in nineteen. Eighty nine, a college professor proposed extracting genetic material from the pieces to test them to see if lincoln, actually suffered from a disease called marfan syndrome. A lot of people thought this was a fucked up thing to do. An ethics panel was intense,
and it's I dunno it's something to do with him being really tall. I'm not sure I didn't look it up, but I don't care marseillaise. An ethics panel like the nine emotions. Yes, it's about. Some people came from martians, okay. Well, we have closure and an ethics panel was
being at the national museum of health and medicine and it was approved, but
You later different panel recommended a long delay until more could be learned about martians syndrome. But
media attention led to hundreds of people calling and writing claiming they owned pieces of lincoln that they owned pieces of lincoln.
So there's this is not a cent mclaughlin sound. So there's this whole thing because of because of how many,
I am as this is what I have people did, how they thought. I was also a rate of having open, not not measure the picking or they're just lying about. They could have been picking right or they just took advantage of it to say yeah. This is a pace of lincoln, like till there
it's like thinking and then the kids still have it like. So there's all these people out there, who think they are pieces of lincoln, is the title of this one going to be pieces of lincoln yeah. It must be estimate, I mean
Its perry says can pay says I care it's all the normal. Yet it's a normal way to die, and I mean it is an idea that his death, his as bizarre, is geared to look in the obscure to look into what happened other pressing. They wouldn't I earnestly
drawing on us their latest. Who cares? It also does a manner here's what happens with your body when it's right? That's that's all thing about this means a who gives a shit here. Dad you dad he's. Not it's not like he's gonna, be like. I have a story from the ground and know that there were accumulated.
going to bring him back some day like it's over. It happened it's over, doesn't matter, bronzed himself die over yeah. I just just burn just burn you, so let's do a favor. Let's do it when you will take care of this business seeker. What we're going to get rid of lincoln's body. I dunno now we're going to we're going to we're going to turn into dust none and set it free baby. Well, on one condition: yes, we do it on election night, damn thunder dropped the ball. We signed pieces of lincoln. I don't. I won't
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