Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Wobbly Joe Hill. Recorded live at Wiseguys in Salt Lake City.
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October, seven, eighty
Seventeen. Seventy nine man Joel will go with
it made us see if I had any clue who that was after all these years. I love that you still do the checking that was born in the seaport.
town of Sweden to the Valley, Lutheran parents. He was a thirty nine kids shirt or also known as six.
Three died when they were babies. Is that confirmed
start calling that baby out. Yet
three baby out, six left sixty six percent today
all day.
Whose father Olaf was a poorly
a railroad conductor, stereotype
his mother,
Margarita Castle arena games that came with two days on the end Margarita Catalina come on. I'm guessing been drink. Margarita wasn't around already.
It's also the football she was wasn't. She was a housewife. She didn't work, the children were taught the practices of an orthodox Lutheran Jaws, younger sister, Esther quote: there were no political discussions at home. We were taught to be obedient to God and the king and to submit to
well authority feels a little political that feels like our democracy, a little bit yeah. Well, we weren't going to get worse.
I Joe's parents, love musically, often lead the family in song. All off played the organ at church, and then he built one so his he could teach his children how to play the organ. That's a lot of work
early, really committed to build a order. Oregon yeah, I mean Worthing, basically the same
by the same basic. It's not sound is therefore, but as far as work, you have done that
I have thirty four off,
in there. It is again
all our stock in it off like this
at the time
as a Dane Georgians onto balanced family, especially to tease sisters. You went to concerts, he performed at local conveys. He played the guitar, the accordion piano
It's in the Oregon, it's not here, but nonetheless dad I'm going without the pipes, your pipes, my son, will years prior to this. I don't need your stupid pipes,
you're, no son of mine,
When all is nine is father died after work accident as the long ago.
the Renault yeah, that's pretty good, that's pretty great yeah! You got a lot of good years with your dad there. I assume he was in Oregon
They Oregon, oh years, how badly, I would prefer be the Oregon for
Olaf was the family's only source of income, so margarita took the kids out of school and put them all to work. Great, okay, so he's nine and working
nine years old, I got a job at a rope factory.
well, someone's gotta make it. I guess they've never traced it back, but someone's making rope. You know we're just so spoiled or like our rope, robots right there. It's everywhere, it's like it's everywhere, ubiquitous
if some nine year old, like the sector, they wanted. The Papa Mathematics was the cool thing about a rope and reused. It'd be really the giant gaps,
Well, it's a test of the handiwork,
Look not
leave them up.
It's so good. It's like advertising.
I think we've got our new logo
where the guys who make it
he worked long hours and shitty industrial conditions as a,
He worked as a fireman on
theme powered crane and shoveled coal for a construction company, so things are looking up, yeah for sure, no fun adolescents and he went from making rope to shoveling coal yup. Definitely
I twenty one. He got tuberculosis in the skin and joints.
Was he doesn't get long,
the normal, the apparently a really weird swedish one
sir.
Joy,
too much flat.
They were not really any treatment options and the Habla so Joe went to Stockholm where he got
That's a treatment while working on jobs full time to pay for it. Great
like America Meraki just going to say, good,
receive radiation and a series of brutal operations on his face and neck, which is why he becomes the Oregon man. Is this the origin story? There's something wrong in the radiation room
now they attach large bat wings to his back.
It left deep scarring and damage on his body for the rest of his life.
in January. One thousand nine hundred and two margarita died after surgery that was supposed to have eased her lifelong back pain
Well, yes, but you know what you were getting into back then one thousand nine hundred and two
The survival rate for this surgery is extremely high. It's how I,
I phone five percent chance of living, but your life will be much better after that sounds great. I don't know math, that's fantastic, say goodbye to everyone in this room by you're, not going to see them again. Then, after the surgery, yeah, oh right, yeah yeah anyway take care.
I can't count backwards from ten. I dunno math, oh alright. Well just put. Does that feel dad the mother's not going to make it
so there's six kids they're all now in their late teens and early twenties, they sold the family home for split the money and went their separate ways for for students.
John. His younger brother Paul went to New York City. Their siblings in Sweden would never see the brothers again
they landed on Ellis Island. In October, one thousand nine hundred and two now Joe, was quote six ft tall slim with deep blue eyes and dark brown hair. I handsome intelligent, serious and thoughtful young man bowl done their free
it more hobo than poet, literally on board for the entire description until the end or I'm like what are the Venn diagram of Hobo and poet is almost that eclipse the. What is it just? A hat. Differences like mine goes down further for the duke the hobos. Don't shave.
poets, don't either do nice. Try you have a moment. So it's a rich, rich people's kids, you still not
actually right you're, familiar closer first point, but no birds get tons of Ladys.
Go to silver Lakes, Idaho Bus,
Jaws had a very strong sense of humor. He had a very good grasp of English, because he'd learned it at the Y M C a and sweet
of course,
adjust just how long the way of has been around how it's in every country, apparently good.
for sure New York was cleaning spit tunes. Oh, what's that, isn't that that's horrible? Isn't that just like a dump job going to tell you
after I read that I went down a wormhole. How dirty potato was looking for stuff for weight due to the incidents I was thinking about. Is the thing about petunia? Why did they dig
what's real right, they'll thing! Well, I think that's a sound affect everyone loves. My movies would have you believe that every damages it also. You know when you go to bed, your camera trash has real movies zones. We
the movie you watching
the music yeah okay
it's
I know, but they they were everywhere. Spittoons, okay,
at this time he made a little worried that you're killing cats got any snake cleaning him.
hubs. Bravo,
saloons, hotels, banks, Barbara,
jobs are worth it pharmacies
anywhere dudes, where
I can pass they had everywhere and they,
play them because before that it was just spitting on the floor.
We should get a comprehensive.
But like we'll, get a ding involved and just start going through pictures and there's just petunias fucking everywhere. Okay, so his job was to clean them. Yeah, okay, which is the badge
yeah. Nobody wants it's not a high status job when you dump it out, though it sounds like a bell ring. That's right,
So after a while eating enough of the slums and cleaning spit and Joel and his brother decide to head out into the USA and they actually went their separate ways: okay
between ninety two and nineteen twelve there's very little record of Joe. He was constantly on the move as an as a labour. You know working around wherever okay move frequently he was in Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Chicago sorts of Northern South Dakota Spokane, Seattle, Portland, LOS Angeles, San Pedro, Fresno, Mexico, British Columbia, Alaska and Hawaii. Jesus dude, fucking,
go to the nineteen twelve one thousand. Nine hundred and six Joe wrote a first hand account of the great San Cisco earthquake to his hometown newspaper and the obelisk.
He was fired from a machine shop in Chicago and then blacklisted for trying to organize a union
If I don't get a time machine, I think we'll tell you what's good for you that you can trust US guys, history. It should have seen me explaining to a fan yesterday,
It was oh, I can you, can you imagine the madness yeah? Let's have you worked sixteen hours a day?
How to get there is a group when you go uneasy
I'm eleven EAST tenth
He already knows that Martin Luther King, to kill do
I teaching history
His teacher on one thing it comes home, I go hold the fuck on
David, was, must love. Why says you cannot Tarzan not to talk and cops?
What guy Games newsletters over the gas,
I didn't talk to him. I look at popular
so.
The trail around gets fired from the job for organizing example.
California, Joe is said to have joined the I W W industrial workers of the world
a revolutionary International Labor Union. They were called the lobbies by other people called that sounds good.
At one point, Joel changed his name to Joseph Strong and then he shortly to Joe Hill.
We found the readers
where you well.
Let's do it, but I'll still do not want to hear it again, one more time on earth that I love the story, love the story in a bad way. I, like I love decade, yeah, it's tough yeah! You go ahead. Okay, I'll talk later
only by short, his name to avoid anti immigrant sentiments and because he's blacklist joins I'd ever w specific. Gary joint is not exactly known, because
us government seized and destroyed all of the I w that is records in nineteen. Seventy nice cause freedom in America and stuff
yeah, you know you know you have a good, a good government when you have to destroy the opposition's records to destroy how strong
Most historians believe Joe join. The nineteen ten AL seems to have served as the San Pedro branch secretary for several years
I see right. He wrote a letter as an I w w member to the industrial worker, which is a magazine and he probably get love it yeah. What's your favorite to section steel,
let's just like us too. Well,
it better is also a fun section, the next two years
that was really good.
So here is the letter August. Ninth,
It's about a worker who had gotten a damaged hand quote after a train pulled out and he tried to obey the orders, but that upholder of law and justice saw him and habitually took a shot at him. His intentions were, of course, the very best he's a he's. A
So I guess, okay, because intentions were, of course, the very best but being a poor shot. He only succeeded in crushing the man's hand the poor fellow might starve to death, though so that blood thirsty hyena may not get so badly disappointed. After all,
not being satisfied with disabling of the man for life. He struck him several blows on the head and face with a sapper sapper is a rubber hose with chunks of lead in the end.
So its purely a weapon of war have gave you like a sprinkler vibe.
okay, yeah, there's a lot other uses for sure for lead.
it's like something you make. If you're, it's like the apocalypse apocalypse,
Even then I can think of better things know we should do is put lead in that hosts seriously
Alright, great talk now
workers. How long are those hired murderers, whose chief delight is to see human blood flowing in streams going to slaughter and make our class there's only one way to stop it tonight on the industrial feel yours Joel?
that's nice, chirpy village,
a fit right in what the radical I didn't you w. He soon rally behind the cause of two mexican brothers who were plotting to overthrow the Gulf of Mexico from where they were living in LOS Angeles. That's one! Do you just vs facts? Essentially I buy if there were a couple guy
in Mexico right now or like we're going over to the government?
even though I like to go over to Mexico right now. I would still just get on board here. Okay already know, because there's a good yeah he's good to get out.
The anything south of the border should be overthrown. That's just America.
when there's a dictator named dismal who was overthrown and then the two brothers, the immigrant brothers formed on to with the idea of taking a Baja, California and creating a country for the working class, all like that, yeah right, yeah cause it's also a nice area. Yeah. She is yeah beaches on both sides. That's right, yeah, yeah, the time
I read. Chip was for the wedding, but if I'm there I'm like hey, we got this. Is the winner's circle boys? How about some surveys
Margarita get around of margaritas. She passed away,
right now,
the army quickly swell the several hundred Joe is set
in short of enlisting I w members in allay when
Try to incite his spell rebels to use force to take road quote. Workers may find out that the only machine worthwhile is the one
capital is used on us when we ask for more bread for ourselves and our families,
It works with a trigger all aboard for Mexico. Yours,
They didn't they Monday
and from the U S were basically considered. Hoboes
Sure the whole army went down in Mexico. Oh no, here come a bunch of poets to which
what's a look at their ass.
How about a poem boys
the
we have already took, makes a colleague and decay, and they were then prepared to take on the mexican Army and fight for tee one.
A letter in the industrial worker asked for more. I d been doubly meant to get involved quote only a few of the W W boys have been killed,
I want a parent that a goal that, just as some of us are dead but its by
and the revolution has been only supported by the mexican american members of the liberal Junta and the members of the I W W locals down there down here in California and right now about half of the two hundred and fifty here in Tijuana are members of I W W. So it's like a bunch of fucking Union Rent,
this should happen? It will have a statement of guys.
I plan to invade Guatemala
we're not, as were the
What is your unites? Hell rally,
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lasted six months. Once then we will
target once in our books. But yes, but it's just like you
Lady evasion, nowadays lake rag or something we can have
Yet it is different, and this is like a socialist
when freeing the working man all around the world. So it makes sense sure that hosts editor at Buddy. I'm not sure you know what happened in Iraq podcast about it,
I would love to listen to pretty good
eventually last six months, but makes in truth drove the rebels back across the border here would later
You say he had never been there, but several wobbly members said he was soon after
Oh? I was living in a shack
Beach in Hawaii with two other widely used. They worked as longshoreman loading sugar onto the boats did that yeah. That sounds much better.
Is gender loader attacking deeper a beach? And again I love the sugar.
In nineteen twelve Joe participated in a demonstration of unionists, socialists and suffragettes in San Diego. They are protesting a decision to prohibit the use of public downtown space for meetings. Now. This is when Ben Reitman and Emma Goldman came to San Diego right. So he was there when all that went down his train was stopped by I W W.
by God by but an asshole, sorry and the water and run gauntlets want to Council Jos captured and being badly ok,
Joe's obscure persona has been discovered through accounts of his close friends. Joe was unusually quiet at union meetings, but enjoyed listening to the more philosophical discussions. He didn't drink Joe considered, hard liquor, a capitalist scheme to poison.
in class yeah, but it's like the one we're okay with like it's true for sure, but we've all been like yeah yeah, that one yeah good call on that one. That is, we need that shit to thank you right. There. We are going to try to approve your system, but first we got a bucket of beer.
Into some to someone younger bonds. Earlier I don't know, then we're gonna break out with
capitalist visa
Papa John's Papa John's is the slice racist by with Garlic Dripping Raleigh sauce
Joe is part of the world, but with women, but he never steady girl. Unless parliament was playing fields, it can't be
kick out the avoided. Whorehouse is okay, sure he's been very tickled by that.
he spent much of his free time writing songs. He would often play at wobbly events wherever he was living at the time.
The one immigrant worker in Seattle, quote no one heard of Joe Hill Sing or play could easily forget him. He quickly rose through the union's ranks because of his music and passion for workers' rights. He wrote and performed catchy political songs and satirical bombs that could be used as rallying cries for laborers. Okay. This also attracted just didn't give a shit about unions because they liked the music. Okay. That's that's how you do it yeah yeah we would we would. That would be a great service
If we boarded up music, we don't anymore and keep company the most popular song is the preacher and the slave in which he coined the idiom pie in the sky. Oh alright cause the manager, pilots, guy yeah, that that's that's yeah, that's pretty good! That's a legacy!
some guy. There was a parody of a salvation army him that criticized the Salvation Army for bringing the needy religious salvation instead of helping with hunger, employment and
okay, so he's kind of like a weird, I would say, Union Weird AL.
It's okay, the celebrations and was like? Would you like some Christ on my food,
Well, there's some bread inside the end of that Bible, but oh,
Many workers called it. The starvation Army
is so great that adds up to a point.
That music is one of main tools used by the wild ways to get their message across to what we're
the illiterate, uneducated immigrants and working class audience,
it's a joke about tons of songs. He would break them to fit different strikes. So he's going to strike you'd write a new song for whatever it was like how Elvis did like movies and read up like that's where he wrote all his songs instead of like any creative like forest, he was just like nah. This is about a serpent guy.
I think you're right in the community
It's time on common Andrew testing, animal he's like us at the end
he's like always like Americans, like Elvis right now or on the toilet, eating a ham sandwich with a revolver and a beer like we gotta hit left is the
begun. Good.
From the toilet back on the phone Elvis. This is
Dr Coker, for us to invade sir you. The army is no more come on.
got
where is Randolph coming still got,
I've lost a great
and
so the way it got around was hopping trains shirt. So that way you get around really easily are super easy and he introduced call and response songs to italian dockworkers in San Pedro who started the whole. The right that's fake tiger legacy the pie in the sky.
You know the guy who told the audience to say something back. Why don't we go to Pis whether we want them now? Alright, let's
again and we want to separate my catchphrase from my new technique all caught up in that? What do we want?
say something like equal rights but like we want equal.
that's better! That's good! That's what actually works best! We do an equal pie,
Well, don't respond anymore. More soon.
stereotypes. Air again,
it will join the EU on please because of its music. Richard brazier quote what first station.
Richard, Brazil call me dick the years. Well, I'm just dig
hey, listen up real comfortable
Maybe you should feel better that brassiere and let me put it down the back of my pants for a while hello. I don't have a need. My friend
Why was totally plot popcorn, but I see no reply.
such a hack,
Richard Brazil quote what first dragged me. First attracted me made the idea fabric mega nipples that Britain
The
you don't know Dick. I got a mind of my own. What first attracted me.
I Debbie was songs and gusto with which its members saying I heard these songs before I came to Spokane,
Enjoy the age? I thought was good
kinda held the crown for wobbly speakers, good propaganda. That brings with it yeah sure we should get back to that. Yeah singing unions, yeah. Yes,
I agree. But then a year of joining the idea of Bw Joe, was a beloved member of the songs. Were sung and being sung in Australia, New Zealand, England, Scotland, Wales, they were translated into swedish finnish, russian hungry french spanish times each
insurance, SALT Lake City,
and even for the fact that we're here that was an ambivalent reaction that is, like we said, SALT Lake City in another city, the
I get it
the
don't call it that or the an hour ago the what she yelled were insignificant. It's the first time
real yelled. That sector backtrack, wouldn't give it a second time. Why would you repeat what I said?
Does it matter
Joe work at the Silver King mine sure he lived in SALT Lake for a while, now run ten p dot m on January tenth, one thousand nine hundred and fourteen John Morrison Arling,
thirteen year old Merlin? What what else are you going to name your kid or he's a wizard honestly dad? I want to dance over my dead body
Alexia Spellbook get it oh, my god right
So the family were closing up their store.
And two men wearing red bandanas entered one yelled at Morrison.
We've got you now and shot him with a pistol Merlin hit in the back of the sun.
Our allowing loaded his father's revolver and shot at the men as they fled. One returned fire and shot Arlene both Arlington John Morrison. We're dead is Merlin in the back.
now I will cast now's the time
Oh my god, I made ice cream. Oh my. I made ice cream.
So John Morrison was an ex cop. He recently retired, because
It was just a phone,
Well, that's either turn and seventy two boos,
usually you're Julian over my usually you just hit the median tears sitting. There might be,
first comic going on right now, there's gonna be ok, so safe and ex cop recently,
tired. Who is who is this? The guy killed he recently retired, to fears of retaliation from many interested
he said he feared for his life and his families and then turns out it was accurate, but yeah Merlin gave a detailed account of the shooting to police and a vague description of the gunman okay cause. He was hiding in back yeah. That's what I was gonna say too much. No money or items were taken from the store. Okay, so there's revenge, police concluded Arlene wounded one of the gunmen because there was blood outside as good cop workers and police thought it was a revenge killing and they told the press that I said it was rather just killing for no, you did
basically put that together or what I said about him retiring because he was worried. People would try to take it, and then you didn't say the word revenge or retaliation, but your brain, I'm just saying I said revenge and then the next thing you said
I'm not going be this, like you know, I'm not going to Armstrong and Buzz
someone took one giant step for man, some
but we will adapt our have whenever not gladly arising Neil Armstrong, then,
I'm listening
The cops had a list of twelve men,
revenge list
It was then arrested by Morrison and then recently released from prison. Okay and
thirty. On that same evening, Joe Hill went to Doktor, Frank Mchugh, Joe a bullet wound on the left side of his chest sees
I'll wait. No ma'am! Your throat hurts please. My heart is bleeding
He said he was shot at a bar when a drunk man accused him of insulting his wife.
That's how they have it yet,
oh, and it's like we, we really have like we've hit the curve where we're like that doesn't happen anymore than our life. I see that happening this coming back very slowly. So, as the doctor examined him, a gun fell out of Joe's clothing.
Hey clang! Oh that's my God
but it was not of people that guns nineteen.
didn't you jobs and better state for twenty years. Yet there is tension,
federal authorities and the Mormon population. Sure.
Have been a lot of violence stemming from the practice of polygamy,
which they were into and they wanted to keep fucking a bunch of? Ladies?
This is this is like God, after dark. That's what polygamy? The curvy god, where God was like ooh yeah, all that other shit and fuck them all the God. What are you talking about a snifter, a brand new to worry about? Oh god, think I'd like to get wet. Everybody's big deserves a dip. The smoke real, quick, the new job
The shake is hair God Jesus
bet awhile ago cats away. Where do they get your body works shut up about you say your son is the cat.
Yeah, it's the way. Jesus is a pain in the eye, but I love the kid he's. A great kid he's, a great kid he's, unbelievable like he died for the sees unbelievable. The kid's gotta be better than his dad, but right now what he doesn't know. Caleb I mean talk about a wrong turn of phrase. The good good me I should say: oh you better than you, but he's already dead, yet be dead, is meaningless. In this you are foolish.
Even me up here right now,
well the doors on the rocks. Are you just going to be a loser all day the fucking asshole? Hey! Look it's the seventh day, it's my time, baby, the first cigarette on the table yeah they done that matters shits to give the cat after dark. Maybe you want to do a book
the cloud: that's all that is the Gummer and then what's gonna blow your mind like he blows his nose. The talk about a coke bender up it up for weeks when I made the giraffe, I was just looking at a horse and I was like what the hell I just came here to get a groom can be used to the immortal.
You watch me decent did. Listen! You get a grip on the Lloyd's than anybody else
and to go. Does a little baby powder?
Jesus, the shit, that's going to numb your face and your genitals. You stay right here with the yeah. That's right! Nothing!
I said you're Burma,
good someone skinners.
See why draw
you literally anything, you want like deadlifts,
and
if you're your God, so it doesn't matter how much you can dead. What do you think the most you can do that
That rights do crystal with me and I could go for a walk, bleeding you're, no body. I've got so much that there be no matter. I bet it this year,
he's a grab. Thank you.
An OSU later convicted because of your name, the other guy good shit,
If you're say the fucking love that dude the dude talks a lot of shit about yeah. We have a real love hate thing, but I'll tell you what we love to jam. You get him on the bongos. You get me on the banjo, the
the one it came to. Heaven begins to go the way until St Peter. I was asleep he's like a mother, the man,
Take care all right, see you later alright, bye.
How do I get out here so
Add more protective fucking people, the
just ten years earlier than Cheech Leadership, officially prohibited polygamy,
We're powerful members of the community and we're very anti union. Most of
Richard was directed at the wobbles and their radical beliefs
so wobbly is like Joe Hill carried guts. Okay, you gotta carry guns because of all the fucking
apartments.
nothing's changed,
The bullet didn't hit any of Jose vital organs. The doctor was able to easily clean and bandage the wound, and then he had a friend, Dr Dot, Joe home. Now the friend said Joe Aston to stop.
Vacant field. Where Joe went out and threw something into the distance sure he just feels we pull over,
but that's just what you do when your
I feel, like I got some stuff, that I have a close your eyes
The doktor read about the double murder. Anyone told the cops about Joe.
Three days later, the doctor visited Joe to re, examine the wound and deliver painkillers to a judge.
medicine, he was feeling drowsy and that's when the police came barging in
I was just laying there. You know kind of out of it and confused pretty much undressed
so I rolled over grab his pants and a cop shot him in the hat.
Now we're known as naked boy, you dig in our sea that shit we're there.
dignity ever get any coke on your balls.
I can hear you sorry
the boy coming by later. Yes, yes, not say: okay,
play guitar hero. What do it like? The red, hot chili peppers will put socks over our cocks? Are they got to go?
How do I? How do a hang up
and you don't. I go yeah, I'm like a ring cam. I call it okay, bye. No, this is not bad. This is ELO again it a bit. Okay,
hey officer, shoot me a bullet,
in most of the bones in Joe's hands, sure they arrested him and they assumed his roommate was a partner in the killings, as roommate was auto apple quest yup. Well, I would
if that guy Wanna talk about about some stuff, the APOE Audioquest yeah. That sounds like you're like running some detection on your MAC
ABBA Lotto plus, please have a virus.
but also had left town when we heard about the murders on I was never found.
Please find a single rapid data in the apartment, but no gun
but a resting Joe also made no sense, because it was a revenge, Chile and German, no connection number and he did not try to leave the SALT Lake Tribute
You reported when Joe asked how he was wanted. He said quote: I was in a fuss over a girl and I got shot. I don't want to say where it occurred, so he's cut, but why won't he?
want to drag the lady into ok. The gentleman right right forgot, who got shot sure yeah totally.
The prosecutor said said it was a robbery gone bad, even though nothing was taken and the killer is
we've got. You now have
as bad as robbery that never occurred. I know it was really so bad that it wasn't a robbery yeah yeah. They took so much. Nothing was taken also when Merlin
Harry Potter, television, may I
It was the only witness saw Jovica the first time he said quote: that's not him. Ok and again, he was basically back all the time. Yeah
Joe was facing the death penalty,
Merlin change changes story now told the SALT Lake Tribune Quote Hills.
at the same size and height as one of the men. As the light was dim. I could not get a lasting impression of the man's features, but Hill appears to be very much the same, build as the man who entered the store and from whom I saw fire. My father after my father had fallen, and the murders saw that my brother intended to fire and return the man who I think, resembles hill.
I was behind the end of the counter and shot my brother well. So he's definitely not talked to the police at all that just
right off the top wait, a minute. No, it was actually
It can afford a lawyer, so two young local attorneys volunteer to defend him for free, okay, the prosecution proves twelve eyewitnesses who claimed the killer. Look like Joe, like most of the people in SALT Lake City at the time
The killer was young white male with an average bill,
I.
and now Merlin just identified Joe as the killer. What an evolution
Maybe Maryland does have a magic power like yeah,
the ability to recollect things that didn't occur. That's right!
I went through the case Joe fired his lawyers. Okay, he sent their cross examinations were weak and that they weren't objecting to leading questions. You have about three and there's nobody else. Yet you're still fly
and it stated to dismiss them Joe wrote. That quote, he believed they were acting in partnership with the district attorney to convict him of a crime. He had not committed. Okay, interesting, the judge just declined the dismissal and then Joe refused to participate in the trial. He would not testify, and he never explained why. But most of the thing was because he didn't want to drag the girl into it. Okay, so there's a time
evidence indicating the Joe was not the killer for men were treated for gunshot wounds that night okay,
seriously how many people live there? Five
It's got shot and it's not like everyone's like holy shit. Did you hear what fucking happened last night was a slow either
So.
The shooter, the yellow
You ve got! You now was not brought up at the trial. The bullet there is both to pass through Joe is never recovered at the crime scene
the gun, Joe used supposedly was never found. Just accomplice was never found and the blood outside the store turned out to be from a dogs injured. Part.
That is very sad, a lot. So do we fall
dog case at all in this, or is that will relieve it. He comes back at the end.
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learning.
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so there is
Someone could never been shot. It's a blood out.
all right, yeah right.
So now I know what it's like Joseph Gender, the crap is Europe
leaving was used against them. Even though Otto had no police record the police publicized Otto was JO's accomplice and offered a large reward for him. Otto was never seen or heard from again Joe was arrested before Joe's arrested. The suspect was an ex con named Frank, Wilson, Moore says, arrested him. He just been released from prison and the night of the shooting. Afterwards witnesses said they saw a suspicious looking man on the street car leaning over
if he was in pain. Okay, okay can be that guy nah, probably not just going. Oh, my bullet. Let's look inside the shot time. I saw some funny footprints over that way. Maybe if we follow that lead for a little while, oh god, why do they shoot that cop yeah
something really I don't like it stinks, but it's not right here. It's west
I shot the sheriff, but I didn't shoot the wizard the Maryland,
yeah, the
One of the witnesses identified Wilson as the suspicious man on the street car by a photograph, and the cops were searching for Wilson when they heard about Joe and his wound and quote learned
those identity as an eye w w songwriter and suddenly there interested Wilson has a suspect, faded right cycles in, for this aspects, rested for the murder of origin.
Was a quote. Two wanted for armed Robbery in Arizona. Another told lies to the police and a fourth had a bullet wound in his arm. At Joseph
I said all of those men were released and allowed to leave. Town for sure I mean we've got our guy
yeah yeah yeah yeah go take a vacation. Actually we insist you go
the fuck out here, guys who did it? That's a bud.
and Morrison's wife told police that he said to her quote. If anything ever happens to me, you may have to look up these two men and he told these guys. She is a lot of evidence
The place would not disclose the names of the man and did not pursue the lead, probably because the men that he names were citizens in the neighborhood
Also a news reporter said in interviewed Morrison about a previous armed attack and enforce said the same to men's names and quote they were out to get it
but are there got any leads?
reporter offered to testify against the man, and then the public but prosecutors said no asked the judge
As this fair.
That is always a totally tonight
and then the police chief of San Pedro, who buy them Peters near LOS Angeles, who held Joe for thirty days for vacancy being a strike roads,
salt Lake City police quote. I see you have other rest, former
one, Joseph Hillstrom, you have the right man. He is certainly
Undesirable citizen, he is somewhat of a musician
Reiner of songs for the item VW said yes, then what am I waiting? But what are the ability to do? Who did it from?
so far away. Yeah, I have an unbelievable ability. That's how Utah solves ninety five percent of the police lineup we're going to go to another state.
we're going to get letters from the coast of California and that's how we will solve our cry.
Better fuel, the prosecution's case and turn the trial into a media circus ho is good thing to hear, because you know the media is going to give you the healthy straight to hell so helpful,
it's Utah police, press, government and judicial system were all under the influence of the copper trust and the Mormon Church, and they backed the
Patriot cops the Mormon Church, pretty big here,
super cool
yeah jury measureless. Yes,
The jury found Joe Hill guilty of murder and sentenced him to death.
Yeah I get it yeah. It's actually good that you could come up here to hang out with your blues, lowers the yellow submarine on both sides of the job,
happy baby! It's nothing
I don't skimp out at the end of my bed. You can sleep in by the way. You're. Not going to need to sleep, it's the setup
into the seventh day he snorted the view for him to get up here. I don't want him now. I want to go down
I mean either way a party and, as per purgatory, are working hard to get in there submit.
Alright I'll just what blow just twenty bucks
Charity work and I fucking mind that well, you'd think
it's not a chair. By the way the whole system supper. Shit, hey! I put some really good pieces in place. Huey, it's fucked it all up. That's why I got
Back at some point you know Bloomberg is fucking moving up and yes, yes, yes, yes, I do and I'll be honest. I never finished his legs. I don't know what he's standing on the Joe was given.
The choice of picking hanging or firing squad? Well, at least there is some justice Joseph
the shooting I've been shot a couple times before. I think I can take it.
the shoe replies and then by it I get to go the others that I don't think rope it'd be fair to close relationship the legs guys. You know where my heart is in my hands
If boys do shots, that's we agreed
all the shots,
I
my chances in this race, a race, ok, ok,
I guess I'll take what's behind the door. Okay,
I
So? The decision was appealed to the Utah Supreme Court,
I knew lawyer who basically said this is all happening because he's a member of I W W the governor at the time, William Spry was Pro Boston, Anti Union to his core sure
during his tenure Utah had some of the worst working dish conditions in the nation. The international social review quote the big king and area alone locality employing nearly five thousand men was the site of four hundred and four
you're on the job deaths in nineteen eleven alone, so nineteen eleven high ready for forty, like what I mean. That's like your June third, ten percent of the workforce, DIY wow. These regulations are well and then the Good NEWS is. You have
It's like Amazon, where the Utah legislature, because of this passed a bill requiring corner investigations for all manners deaths, but governor Spry vetoed it yeah. Well, goonies,
Thank you, also, bodies, giveaway the yeah, that's true yeah,
More fun to invent the reason why they died.
Shocking it up to poor factory conditions.
Down and got tuberculosis and died in one day and
twenty four hour tv, joint,
and I Utah Union organizing was vehement opposed armed strike, breaking agency, shot and killed workers, the knowledge of the state government, local police and government endorsed police
Union violence by permitting minors to deputize company gotten them. The sheriff's chosen,
however, twenty two months, while this decision was appealed, the I W W led an international campaign to save him, got tons of media attention worldwide. Thousands of people sent letters to the daughter of the President of the Mormon Church wrote letters to national leaders for Joe, the swedish Embassy United States run a telegram to Woodrow Wilson. The appeal was denied, but the Utah border, pork pardons said they were willing to hear testimony in a closed session from the woman or husband who allegedly shot Cho. Okay. So let's bring the lady out right. He refuse
It's identify anyone saying you would harm the reputation of the woman and drag her into the truck while Kobe yeah, it's the it's still too early. The historians believe that Joe was protecting the identity of a secret sweetheart. He wrote a letter
It's in the border part quote. The state has no right to inquire into the regions of this wound, the chief justice,
I called the unexplained woman was a distinguishing mark. The defendant may not avoid the natural and reasonable inference inferences for remaining silent, so that he's not going to tell them how they got shot, but it's called chivalry
It is believed he knew. He couldn't win.
Joe thought he couldn't win either way what happened to drag of a woman into it and plus it. Yes, I mean I'm sure the media is not like today, but you know of that can of worms
it's over yeah. I may have seen also dying for the union cause with the entire world, watching women create a martyr, good rally, millions to his costs, plus you get to hang out,
but yeah. That's a negative. I've got this wrong.
I have a hole in the gotta go which is not going to be allowed with the amount of love we're going to be paragraphs, I guess, make a little trap door. I guess I thought it'd be different,
the back flap. I figured that's what it is
cl
No one else could hang out with why you getting my pages, broken
getting things
and so Helen Keller who's, a socialist sure, wrote President Woodrow Wilson. She said the trail was not. The trial was not fair and the sentence was unjust. She asked him to stay the execution. The swedish ambassador did the same. So what a Wilson wrote a personal letter to Governor Spry well, ask him to delay. The execution quote respectfully: ask if it would not be possible to postpone the execution of Joseph Hills. Trump, who I understand is a swedish subject and tell the Swedish Administer has an opportunity to present his view of the case fully to your excellency letters then flooded the governor's office. He didn't
his shit? He wrote President Wilson quote your inference. Your interference in this case may have elevated it to an undue importance and the receipt of thousands of threatening letters demanding the recent release of hills from regardless of the
guilt or innocence may attach a peculiar importance to it.
We need the right, a fuck, you let her back the present at areas, the president, why don't you suck my balls telegram that, back to it,
gentleman. I received a letter from the governor of Utah and it is a wonderful invitation. These comments suck on my ball. I will be in Utah for a while and as I go, I will be working on my mouth.
I saw the
That's gonna government comfortable, going to be suitably he's going stressed.
the governor received threats. The SALT Lake Telegram voted to five hundred labors into coma, wrote to the governor quote. We
the working men at Coba in a mass meeting. Five hundred strong forbid you to murder our fellow
Joe Hill. You will be held personally responsible for his well being
Joe wrote in a socialist journal, quote there had to be a goat scapegoat and the under
am vain, as they thought a friend was tramp, a swede and worst of all, and I W W had no right to live anyway. It was therefore duly selected to be the goat. Now, if the people of the state of Utah want to shoot me without giving me half
to state my side of the case bring on your firing squads, I'm ready for you.
I don't know if that with my letter. Oh sorry, sorry you said that out loud. If you don't want us to do it, I'm working it through and I go back. Go back. Sorry!
I've live like an artist and I shall die like an artist, okay and now it now. Yes, alright, I'm not I get it. I get it. I get it. I'm not!
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid why you fucking relax. Okay,
the very idea! Thank you. Fifteen around ten p m Joe gave his will to a prison guards. He requested that he be cremated and scattered in the wind. At five, a M on amendment, nineteen Jill broke the handle of a broom that had been given to the cleanest, so he then torp blankets, office, bed, twisted this drips through the bars of the cell is
a mattress against the door when guards tried to remove the barrier Joe hit them with the sharp end of the broom handle
he is a sort of Captain America,
it's there with a mattress shield and a sword and a guards like well we've.
the hell? Do we do here? I don't know he's just being super annoying. Now
one guard got through and punch John the stomach and then a couple more push through Joe kept.
overpowerd two guards the two
bloody and laying on the floor of his cell. When the other guards arrived and the sheriff who had become friends with Joe over the couple years, he was there. The sheriff said quote Joe: this is stall.
Concepts. Joe said: what do you mean? The sheriff said you profess to die like a man, Joe well, I'm through, but
I am a man for fighting for his life that
is dying like that is a brave, that's how you go out and speed up as many cards.
I combine you've been a little bit weird break.
grab the country or stick
yeah it's spare is
Union sphere.
Thirty five Joe Hill was executed by a firing squad on November 19th, one thousand nine hundred and fifty for being a socialist by the state of Utah
and they would do it again.
When the deputy, yell ready aim, Joe shouted quote: fire go out and fire the emphasis, and I think lunch is a better thing to spend just for a shot.
Pretty much yeah, some guys like shit. We are going to get it all right. That's life, get behind that matches the room again like I got another ten minutes. Let the
Hey Joe, was executed. A bomb was planted at the precedent of the standard oil companies private estate to protest Joe's execution. It was found by garner and diffused mean that guy is awesome, whoever whoever
it's like let's go fucking,
the funerals hell it's all they go to spray sent three under cover actions to find out if anyone was pointing to kill him. Joe
find out if anyone's going to kill the ashes. I don't trust this yet
like a twice baked potato
God gets the urn.
The gone, but not forgotten. The
big Bill Haywood, the founding member of the I W W received a letter from Joe after his death,
What about them
What does that mean that, by the way, I want to pull that I to like my last week or so yeah just on a letter, I would send a costume as positive as postage. So it's not just Valentine's
Hawaii school
and
so, he sends a letter to the big bill, Haywood right up for right before he dies it gets to bill afterwards Goodbye Bill,
I thought like a true blue rebel, don't waste
time in morning, organize could you arranged.
my body hall, to the state line. I don't wanna, be found dead in Utah. Very, very, very good. I like your valentine ideology here that will now bear out so,
Joe is cremated and his ashes were put into six hundred envelopes and sent to I W W offices in every state except Utah.
the
Ash's, Ross also sent to members of South America, Europe, Asia, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia.
What's in there, I was anthrax, Egypt.
contain a photograph of Joe a mock paper headlines and read Joe Hill murdered by the capitalist class and
copy of his last week, which said he wanted to be scattered. Joe Hill's official procession was held in Chicago, was attended by thousands. I think, like thirty thousand traffic, had to be shut down for several miles within.
That sounds like Chicago between
it's war. I d be doubly pennants. That said, don't morn organise or red ribbons.
Joe Hill, murdered by authorities of the state of Utah.
the political left, uses the slogan. Don't mourn organize to this day,
state of Utah. Indeed created a martyr. Its execution became a rallying cry for workers across the world and was seen as proof that the government big business were conspiring against them.
In class, the songs became the most recited recited chance in labor strikes, but the IWW split and fell apart in nineteen, twenty four and one thousand nine hundred and sixteen a bomb was found in governor's prize yard. In six wobblies were arrested.
I couldn't find out what happened to him after that, but in the nineteen forties, a Stanford professor extensively researched Joe's case, and he concluded that Joe's roommate called auto Appa Quest was in fact murdered by the very police who are pretending to search for him. Otto was most likely killed because he was the only witness who could have confirmed Joe's alibi
therefore his innocence in nineteen, eighty eight and a lope that was seized for subversive potential one thousand nine hundred and seventy and one thousand nine hundred and seventeen by the Us Post Office, was found and included the photo Joe the letter and the ashes.
It was started. The White House is national archives, building until the Eye W W found out, and they said they should get the ashes and after negotiations with the government, the ashes returned over, but not the envelope
Billy Bragg and Otis Gibbs drank some of the ashes with union brood Beer,
Yeah B Ruth cast to the wind
us, Canada, Sweden, Australia and Nicaragua. Sweden decided to hit the ashes they got. We put inside the wall of a union office. Besides a plaque commemorating hill and in the early two thousands New York University archivists were transferring Communist Party of the United States materials to another archive when they won was in the Communist Party USA headquarters and they found a box hidden under a desk and the box contain one item: the funds,
will and testament of Joe Hill. So congratulations! You guys killed so the dream,
it's just a really important one that you guys will you guys will kill Morrison,
anywhere. Where there's Amazon Warehouses
in a couple of years, which was kidding yeah. The inability to keep unions forever is really such a fault line for us and unscrew too much destroy capitalism. America, yeah yeah yeah. Well, that's true! I mean you, don't have Jeff Bezos. We need that guy cause he'll, eventually
so the media, the water, the food. I like a guy with two hundred billion dollars who looks like Lex Luthor yeah, just built a golf course on his property it'd be like imagine.
so many things. Golf courses like water,
can distribution. Do how much can you stretch Jeff Bezos,
this is a game, show pretty good. I think it might be like when we take over we're going to make them
it will be fun to eat him. Oh, my God
it hurts to hear that. I would have imagined how to choose. I thought: well, that's a variable.
Conversation,
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one thousand dollars miss. I mean thank you so much
Is that that's so nice? You got anything else. What I'm talking about, though the guild nice yeah, they killed them. The foreigners yeah! That's alright! Buddy he's up in the sky, now
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mysterious ways: dude good! Well, you don't take it up with him math! That's what I've been talking to this whole time, David
you know your father's up there.
The reason why you believe the scheduling of the sentences says November third, nineteen, eighty seven, the end of the year like something bad
that can be the day that Peewee was arrested by the way that was liberating day. I don't know, but I didn't feel comfortable masturbating during the films until that day the
yeah. I know you have a fever ahead of the curve. Yeah we've all got everything.
Thank you guys. So much for coming out. We preciate very much chili are the sources for this episode book, William,
the man who never died, the lifetimes and legacy of Joe Hill American Labor Icon.
Philip Sheldon Voter in the case of Joe Hill Gibbs Smith, Joe Hill, and
Wallace Stegner, Joe Hill Graphical Novel
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